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[Q] Do you recommend buying Desire ?!

Hi all
Do you recommend buying Desire ?!
I tried Android at Wildfire and found it so good and amazing so i sold it and want to get a new more powerful device
It costs around 420~500 USD in my country - Egypt and the devices in that range is New Galaxy Ace or used Galaxy S and i don't like both
already compared it to Desire S and couldn't find any huge different which will cost me more 100 USD !!!
so do you recommend buying HTC Desire ? and is it true it will updated to New Sense same one in Desire S ???!!!

Desire S has the double of space (1.1 GB internal memory) compared to the normal Desire
Desire will never get sense 3.0
But if u can spend a bit more or found a cheap offer, i'll go for the samsung galaxy s 2, once buyed it u can stay with it for 2-3 years without need to change phone (the same is not true for the desire s in this moment, because it's already "old")
Just my opinion if you going to buy a new phone, anyway i will stay with an other year or more with my desire (got it in april 2010) before buy an other top phone, this is my personal philosophy

I just recently bought a used Desire for about $200 CAD and I love it.
My voice plan with Rogers comes to like 22$ and I have no desire to add a $25 data plan to get $50/month plan to get a phone subsidized from them.
I just the App2SD with a 1GB ext4 partition on my SD card to get around the limited space the phone has.

andQlimax said:
Desire S has the double of space (1.1 GB internal memory) compared to the normal Desire
Desire will never get sense 3.0
But if u can spend a bit more or found a cheap offer, i'll go for the samsung galaxy s 2, once buyed it u can stay with it for 2-3 years without need to change phone (the same is not true for the desire s in this moment, because it's already "old")
Just my opinion if you going to buy a new phone, anyway i will stay with an other year or more with my desire (got it in april 2010) before buy an other top phone, this is my personal philosophy
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Galaxy S II will cost me about 800$ and this is too much for phone , buying i7+6GB laptop will be better idea
i think that i already saw costume roms for Desire with sense 3 and circle lock screen or i am wrong ??!!
and i am still noob at Android but i thing with root i can add more extra space for phone to install apps to it exactly like installing them to phone memory and it's so easy to get 8 or 16 GB SD Card ???
and as you said Desire S seems to be old and same as Desire so i think spending more money on it will not be a good idea

What about Desire HD , If i managed to get it with good deal do you recommend it ?
will it be updated to new Sense the one in Sensation officially or also will be custom rom ?

MohamedYousri said:
What about Desire HD , If i managed to get it with good deal do you recommend it ?
will it be updated to new Sense the one in Sensation officially or also will be custom rom ?
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DHD is a fair bit better and still has some decent rom support. It will probably get the sense update, so if you can't really find a newer phone i'd say yeah, go for it.

i'm also pretty much new with android and htc so let me give you some n00b insight...
i've owned Desire for 3 months and i got used to it by now. it can give you both joy and anger. it depends on how you use it. if you live it on stock ROM it'll work smooth and you can find tips and tricks how to make it somewhat better without rooting and flashing roms: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653310
if you decide to root and flash custom ROMs then you can get even better device with many tweaks already built-in new software. for example you can flash Desire HD rom and therefore don't have to actually buy DHD (hardware is not that much different IMHO). now i'm running InsertCoin Gingerbread based rom which hasn't even been released for Desire yet, with many Sense 3.0 goodies which probably won't be officially included in GB update at all. as a downside, these roms can have some bugs, but are overall better than stock. just take a look into some rom development topics...
Desire has it's flaws but overall i'm waaay satisfied... although it's now an old rag D) it still kicks many "smartphone" butts out there. i came from nokia x6 and now i wonder why did i go there in a first place...
anyway, i think you can't go wrong with it. you can of course buy DHD for somewhat better hardware or spare some more money for sensation, but if you're unviling to do so, Desire is still great choice...just my 2 cents!! cheers, i hope this helps a bit!

vnvman said:
DHD is a fair bit better and still has some decent rom support. It will probably get the sense update, so if you can't really find a newer phone i'd say yeah, go for it.
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The problem is getting SGSII or Sensation that thier prices are too high now and sooner their prices will be lower than now so i don't think it's good idea to get 2 months old phone right now ,,,
i liked HTC Sense a lot so i am choosing from HTC not Samsung also HTC have bigger support from developers than Samsung as i can see
but i read that it's sound is low and LCD Screen not that good ,, is this true ?

heraSK said:
i'm also pretty much new with android and htc so let me give you some n00b insight...
i've owned Desire for 3 months and i got used to it by now. it can give you both joy and anger. it depends on how you use it. if you live it on stock ROM it'll work smooth and you can find tips and tricks how to make it somewhat better without rooting and flashing roms: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653310
if you decide to root and flash custom ROMs then you can get even better device with many tweaks already built-in new software. for example you can flash Desire HD rom and therefore don't have to actually buy DHD (hardware is not that much different IMHO). now i'm running InsertCoin Gingerbread based rom which hasn't even been released for Desire yet, with many Sense 3.0 goodies which probably won't be officially included in GB update at all. as a downside, these roms can have some bugs, but are overall better than stock. just take a look into some rom development topics...
Desire has it's flaws but overall i'm waaay satisfied... although it's now an old rag D) it still kicks many "smartphone" butts out there. i came from nokia x6 and now i wonder why did i go there in a first place...
anyway, i think you can't go wrong with it. you can of course buy DHD for somewhat better hardware or spare some more money for sensation, but if you're unviling to do so, Desire is still great choice...just my 2 cents!! cheers, i hope this helps a bit!
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Thanks a lot very useful post ,,,
I will ditch my N8 for Android/HTC ,,, I really loved Android and HTC from using Wildfire for 10 days only !!!
mmmmm , DHD Roms working on Desire ?? very good and new info for me...
and i am agree with you that there is no much difference at specification just bigger screen and camera but ditching 12MP Cam - the best i ever used - means that i don't care that much for it
so your are happy with desire and it's worth it's money,,, is there any news about official update from HTC ???
and what is DHD latest official version right now ??

Comparing DHD to Incredible S latest HTC one core device they are the same !!! and i think that DHD is even better !!!

MohamedYousri said:
Thanks a lot very useful post ,,,
I will ditch my N8 for Android/HTC ,,, I really loved Android and HTC from using Wildfire for 10 days only !!!
mmmmm , DHD Roms working on Desire ?? very good and new info for me...
and i am agree with you that there is no much difference at specification just bigger screen and camera but ditching 12MP Cam - the best i ever used - means that i don't care that much for it
so your are happy with desire and it's worth it's money,,, is there any news about official update from HTC ???
and what is DHD latest official version right now ??
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yeah, x6 had much better camera, and camera is my only problem with desire. but the phone (any phone) is never meant to be a substitute for real camera..so no real prob here....
DHD rom for desire is actually a port, so desire can run it. it's not THE rom from DHD. with that said, you can put virtually any rom into desire but with more or less tweaking to the point where hardware eventually becomes incapable of running much newer rom. therefore sense 3.0 stuff are greatly tweaked for desire to be able to run it. it's not like the real thing but pretty much close. and it's getting better every day... modders here are the wizards, i tell you...
so yeah, i'm happy with desire, didn't regret spending the money on it at all!
as for the official update from HTC, there were many contradictory statements, and the final one is that there WILL be gingerbread update but no word on sense update. you can find it in desire-general section.

I'm using Desire since April 2010, so it's more than a year now. I was very excited about the whole Android thing. And still am. But the phone itself has some big issues. First of all is the huge lack of internal memory. I can't even install the most necessary apps. Secondly it's the overheating problem. My Desire was one of the first Amoled batches and it had issues with the SOC. While using processor demanding apps like navigation, flash playback etc. It was constantly rebooting. Had to repair it. For 3 times. Then it's the speaker and battery. They both are weak. After my previous E61 Desiree's speaker really sucks. Camera is decent too. But in overall I still like, though I would really consider buying SGS back then. Now I'll wait for another year or so. Btw I'm now using MIUI ROM and it gave a second breath to Desire. Good luck with buying!
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Thanks all for your help , i will back again when i get the final prices for D , DHD and Ds as i will not buy it from my country , my cousin will get it to me so i am waiting the prices from him
if you will choose between Desire,Desire S and Desire HD , What will you choose ? and why ?
and if you have other suggestions - even if not HTC - let me know

MohamedYousri said:
Thanks all for your help , i will back again when i get the final prices for D , DHD and Ds as i will not buy it from my country , my cousin will get it to me so i am waiting the prices from him
if you will choose between Desire,Desire S and Desire HD , What will you choose ? and why ?
and if you have other suggestions - even if not HTC - let me know
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I'd go for dhd, bigger screen and same specs of ds, regular desire is a bit outdated compared to them both imo...

vnvman said:
I'd go for dhd, bigger screen and same specs of ds, regular desire is a bit outdated compared to them both imo...
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+1
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What about HD Games like Asphalt HD and NFS , are their performance good at this devices ?!

MohamedYousri said:
What about HD Games like Asphalt HD and NFS , are their performance good at this devices ?!
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Those are working good, but ofc latest tegra games will run no more than decent, adreno 205 is a relatively weak gpu compared to the latest hardware goodness like tegra 2 SOCs...

best buy at the moment is Samsung Galaxy S 2 for 400€.

Beso said:
best buy at the moment is Samsung Galaxy S 2 for 400€.
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400€ is an awful lot for something to deserve the best buy tag.

Beso said:
best buy at the moment is Samsung Galaxy S 2 for 400€.
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Yes, 400€...in your dreams...

Htc wildfire s or Samsung galaxy gio?

Hey guys, I come from LG optimus one forum and I own one and I come in peace lol
I'm planning to change my phone to these two wildfire s or gio cos I'm sick of multitouch problem and touchbug issues of O1 and remember, my point of changing my phone is not to upgrade my phone to a high end devices.
Which do you think is better?
No bias answers please
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shotgun32 said:
No bias answers please
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Try going to a review site then, this forum is dedicated to the Wildfire S; you'll get nothing but biased opinions (either people are happy with their phone or are not satisfied with its performance; they *will* reflect that in their reactions here)

Go for the Wildfire S.
+ camera light
+ 512MB internal memory
+ ambient light sensor
+ htc sense
+ last but not least: much better haptics due to the aluminium frame
- 600 Mhz
I needed a small Android phone and so I just bought it after comparing the Gio, the Ace and the Wildfire S in a Store. And: I own a Galaxy S and a Galaxy Tab, so no HTC fan boy here.
Please excuse my bad english.
regards
TrashX

shotgun32 said:
Hey guys, I come from LG optimus one forum and I own one and I come in peace lol
I'm planning to change my phone to these two wildfire s or gio cos I'm sick of multitouch problem and touchbug issues of O1 and remember, my point of changing my phone is not to upgrade my phone to a high end devices.
Which do you think is better?
No bias answers please
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I aso pondered between the two, but after reading a cpouple of reviews and seeing both tinkering with both phones in a store I went for the WS. I do admit, I am a HTC fan though. However, after 1 week I am pretty happy with it. I am using it primarily as a phone, no data or e-mail on it. Battery life is more than decent, it takes decent pictures as well.
Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk

Gotta say, that im a bit jeleaus at my GF for having a Wildfire S. It's a decent phone! Go 4 it, you won't regret it.

Help me in buying DESIRE. !

I am a proud user of LG Optimus one which s a fabulous phone due to dev support here @ XDA. I am thinking of buying Desire. I have few questions.
1. I am an audiophile . So i need an in ear earphones for Desire. Is ther any?
2. How s the dev support for Desire. Does it support well known roms such as oxygen, cm and MIUI?
3. I read bad news about the Sunlight legibility, battery and build quality of Desire. Any comments?
4. Does Desire have any other problems?
Thanks guyz. Awaiting response.

1. Supplied one is not in ear. You can (have to) buy separately any std (3.5 mm)
2. Dev support is very good. One of the best as Desire is HTC best product for 2010 and early 2011
3. Build quality is great better than any galaxy series, Battery is user specific - I dont find it terrible. Yes in direct sun light I find display little dull.
4. Desire have low internal memory so if you like more app you need to root, create ext partition and SD card and install any custom ROM. if you are planning to do that anyways its not a problem.
I am using desire since 1.5 years without any problem and tried many available ROM doing great for me, but I advice you to look for other options as Desire is old product and almost all users are in their end of their cycle. I dont know your buying preference but if you list down everyone can help you suggest more models.

I am looking to buy desire because i found it at an offer price of 15300 INR. I think there is no other good models compared to desire @ this price range. Am i right? Or is ther any?

So you want something for budget of 15000.
1. I just got Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo for 14750 (With out bill) which is twice better than my Desire. Neo V even goes 1000 Rs less.
2. Motorola Defy+ in 15500-16000
3. I am not sure but check Samsung Galaxy i9003 something which is also around 16000
4. There is one LG model also in 13000, cant remember name.

What are the disadvantages of desire. is defy+ better than desire ?
Without bill is without warranty right ? What if the product fails ? Warranty ?

Comparison of Desire and Defy+
Desire released in March 2010 while Defy+ in Sept 2011. Recent product so they will get official update.
Better CPU and GPU and double ROM.
Its dust and water proof.
1700 battery instead of 1400.
Those are the advantages of Defy+ over Desire.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3077&idPhone2=4098
Yes without bill is without warranty.
Let me explain how that works for me giving you example by my Neo purchase.
Neo officially available at around 18000+ and without bill it is 14750. So difference is 3000+ rs.
When they sell they give you demo and you can check and later you pay. If something wrong later also it wont cost me 3000 for sure. And I almost bought around 8-10 handset in last 3-4 years for my friends and family without bill and did not get complain.
And when you buy android handset and you root it your warranty is gone anyways.
So you have to decide its risk worth or not. Sometime bad luck is enough

ksavai said:
And when you buy android handset and you root it your warranty is gone anyways.
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You know root is reversible?

HTC One X owners, do you recommend the purchase?

Hello there.
I've waited few months to retire my old HTC Desire and purchase a new device, for few weeks ago I've been waiting the release of the HTC one X but now I've been reading some topics about issues and problems that the owners are suffering...
So here is my question to the One X owners, would you recommend the device to your best friend?
Thanks

HTC Bravo said:
Hello there.
I've waited few months to retire my old HTC Desire and purchase a new device, for few weeks ago I've been waiting the release of the HTC one X but now I've been reading some topics about issues and problems that the owners are suffering...
So here is my question to the One X owners, would you recommend the device to your best friend?
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I would not as I want to be only one with this gem of a phone in my circle
Plus they're all apple fanboys anyway.

twistedh said:
I would not as I want to be only one with this gem of a phone in my circle
Plus they're all apple fanboys anyway.
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This. The One X is MY phone damnit.
(But yeah, it's fantastic)

OysterCatcheRR said:
This. The One X is MY phone damnit.
(But yeah, it's fantastic)
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+1 ITs MY PHONE ... plus she prefers small ****ty androids as these bad boys are too complicated for her

HTC Bravo said:
Hello there.
I've waited few months to retire my old HTC Desire and purchase a new device, for few weeks ago I've been waiting the release of the HTC one X but now I've been reading some topics about issues and problems that the owners are suffering...
So here is my question to the One X owners, would you recommend the device to your best friend?
Thanks
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Read back to the comments on DHD forums when that came out. Same with the Sensation. They both had teething issues for some users, and I don't regret getting either. There will always be people with problems, and they will be the most vocal.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

OI! Thats my phone, get yourself something else!!!

I recommend iPhones to most people only because most people I know just want something easy to use. Not that Android is easy, but Apple is easier and they can just take it into an Apple Store if something doesn't work. The support system is much better.
HOWEVER, the One X is a much better phone than anything else on the market!

short answer: yes
long answer: alot of yes

The choice is yours I've gone from dhd to the one x don't think I would look back either
Screen crisp clear
Build fantastic
Use smooth and quick
Really light weight
Yes there is reports of minor issues on some of them but its nothing major and will be fixed the only I have is battery life mine dies faster that my gf she got 18 hours out of first charge the difference is I'm a heavy user she isn't
The rest of reported issues I've not had
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

I guess U should. Since U are coming from desire.
But for me, the reason I got one was initially because of the "big" screen. Am using a titan currently and absolutely love the screen minus the lower pixel count. When I got One x, I was quite disappointed actually. I dun quite like the material used and the "bigger" screen. Its the screen ratio that actually turned me off.. The screen is taller but not really much wider than my trusty hd2. So, the "bigger screen is not what I had expected. Speed wise, blazing fast compared to my hd2. But, do I really need blazing? I guess not.. I can bare with a few millisec of waiting time. So, I am kinda disappointed tbh. IMHO.

Anyone had THE argument yet?
oops

Yes, but wait for the battery saving update coming and for some cases in the shops. My camera feels way to exposed to scratches so have ordered a clear back case which is 10 days away. Screen is amazing compared it to s2 and iPhone 4s and they don't even come close.
I came from HTC desire.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

Don't you dare buying it! It's mine, my precious <3.
#Smeagol off
I'd recommend it, but if you are the kind of user who wants a flawless experience from the start = wait 2 weeks so all the bugs are updated.

My first few hours coming from a DHD I was sceptical because I was so used to the DHD and the Virtuous affinity ROM is amazingly smooth.
After 1 day I am completely loving the one x.
It's holding battery much better than my DHD with the same accounts syncing too.
The camera and screen are actually stunning, not just a turn of phrase. I was jaw dropped streaming HD and filming 1080p.
I actually prefer using my one x with headphones for media than my laptop and TV put together now

I recommend it.
Sent from my HTC One X

Honestly, no. Not yet.
I would wait to see what HTC do to address the awful battery life and overheating before buying.
If the reviews would have been more realistic, I would have been in a better position to judge.
Feel let down by the main reviewers, but then they did have an update that us mere peasants aren't allowed. Sketchy move from HTC if you ask me, the phone we get is not what was reviewed. Foul.

Arthur Hucksake said:
Feel let down by the main reviewers, but then they did have an update that us mere peasants aren't allowed. Sketchy move from HTC if you ask me, the phone we get is not what was reviewed. Foul.
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I can't help wondering why they chose to release an update that fixes a lot ONLY to the press... It makes no sense to me?

H-Cim said:
I can't help wondering why they chose to release an update that fixes a lot ONLY to the press... It makes no sense to me?
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Clearly they weren't sure about it's stability/hadn't bug-tested it enough to release to all of their customers.
Should be out soon though

H-Cim said:
I can't help wondering why they chose to release an update that fixes a lot ONLY to the press... It makes no sense to me?
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Because they needed to get it to them before the reviews were published, so that they'd reflect what HTC intended the user experience to be like before the handset was released to the public later that week.
Sensible though that strategy is, it sort of comes undone when you don't push that update to the retail handsets in time for them going on general sale. I imagine it was because the 1.27 update was a quick hack to fix the major outstanding issues that would be likely to turn up in reviews, whereas 1.28 would need to be fully tested before being delivered (because having effectively supplied a handset with pre-release software there'd be hell on if the first update didn't work perfectly), but it could still have been handled better.

YESS u should..but to each his own...
For the screen size remarks....
I`m coming from the DHD and the Sensation XE.
And i`m loving the new bigger screen.
The colors,..The sharpness it`s just a marvel
But again what works for one doesn`t have to work for all.
About the speed.....
Just lightning
CF Benchmark
23839, 6010 , 13050
Antutu
11524
Monjori
38 FPS
Nenamark 2
48 FPS
So the CPU goes like a bat out of hell
The GPU at the moment is the same as my Sensation XE ( adreno 220 @ 320Mhz )
Batterylife looks to be OK.
But when u stress it it takes a lot of juice.
The companion core works perfectly cause the standyby hours are super

Is the HTC One V worth getting?

Hi guys and girls
I lost access to my old XDA account but I decided to make a new one so here I am.
I used to be very active in the HTC Wildfire section but my contract with Three ran out so it's time for upgrading my device and I have chosen to go with a Virgin Mobile contract that includes the HTC One V Device.
So what I am basically asking is after viewing some reviews for myself I would like to know the following...
1) Is the HTC One V a smooth, fast and reliable device with it's stock ROM?
2) Is the device up to standards for example is it as good as you thought it would be?
3) Do you personally think that the HTC One V is better than the HTC Wildfire and if so why?
Also I have seen some videos on YouTube and some people were saying that the device has a battery that cannot be detached and others were showing the device with a detachable battery so are there two different versions of the same phone? :S
Thanks guys

LewisD94 said:
Hi guys and girls
I lost access to my old XDA account but I decided to make a new one so here I am.
I used to be very active in the HTC Wildfire section but my contract with Three ran out so it's time for upgrading my device and I have chosen to go with a Virgin Mobile contract that includes the HTC One V Device.
So what I am basically asking is after viewing some reviews for myself I would like to know the following...
1) Is the HTC One V a smooth, fast and reliable device with it's stock ROM?
2) Is the device up to standards for example is it as good as you thought it would be?
3) Do you personally think that the HTC One V is better than the HTC Wildfire and if so why?
Also I have seen some videos on YouTube and some people were saying that the device has a battery that cannot be detached and others were showing the device with a detachable battery so are there two different versions of the same phone? :S
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1) Yes mine is very quick even with the stock rom. I've since rooted it and installed CM9 but that was not because of performance/reliability problems stock but rather because I wanted more options available to me
2) Mine is so much better than I thought. It just works. Of course I came from an Optimus V so it's definitely a big improvement.
3) Everything I've heard says this thing beats the Wildfire out of the water!
I should note that the One V (among other phones) is 20% off at virginmobileusa.com right now. I paid full boat for mine now I wish I had waited a few weeks! Oh well no complaints.
Mine does NOT have a detachable battery but if you hold the power button down for ten seconds it forces it to power off.

Yes,
I recently moved from a desire,.
The Desire is very similar in specs to the One V, but:
* much brighter screen
* no messing with data2sd, or other scripts. Given the nand size of the V I reinstalled all the same 92 apps as my desire, room for way more. And way faster and smoother as everything is on the nand. I believe this will apply to you as well coming from the wildfire.
*having the latest and greatest is awesome. (ics and sense 4.0) On my desire I had all the "smooth rosie" tweaks I could find to flatten 3d effects etc. Speed was more important to me. Because of this I do NOT mind that we are missing 3d effects that the S and X have.
Make the move Dude, you'll Love this phone if you liked the wildfire.
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I just got it last friday and I love it.
Better than My nexus S and that lame zte avail.

I understand you are not first to an android phone. So to answer your 3rd question first - Wildfire is NOT a competition for One V (in all regards). And question 2, yes it is better than what I thought it would be. and finally to question 1. It will surely depend on what you intend to do with the phone. If you are looking to buy an everyday phone, One V will be a good option (I am on stock ROM)