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there was an update zip that would downgrade you from dk28 to DI18. i cant find it any where. anybody know what happened to it or happen to have the update zip?
No. /thread
pjames said:
there was an update zip that would downgrade you from dk28 to DI18. i cant find it any where. anybody know what happened to it or happen to have the update zip?
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That wouldn't be an update .zip...
I'm not sure if you're confused or not but DI18 is Eclair.
063_XOBX said:
That wouldn't be an update .zip...
I'm not sure if you're confused or not but DI18 is Eclair.
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k0nane said:
No. /thread
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i know that is eclair but i need to downgraage to eclair to upgrade to eco5. so no im not confused. sorry it wasnt an update zip but i found what i was looking for in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786266&page=1. but thanks for the help
Just ODIN EC05, don't bother with the OTA
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Just ODIN EC05, don't bother with the OTA
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normally i would but i cant due to my laptop usb ports being broken
HUGE thanks to kingsway8605 because without him, we would NOT have gotten this done. He spent hours getting a hold of this .zip, flashing this, odin'ing that, please appreciate what he did for us!!
Thanks to everyone else for getting the constant help - shabbypenguin, chris41g, T.C.P, graffixnyc, digits, and everyone else who helped out!!
No one but you is responsible if anything happens to your phone!
Please read everything before flashing and proceed with caution!
New build information
Android 2.3.6
EK02 Baseband/Radio
EK02 Radio
You can flash this right over your current ROM right from recovery but ONLY IF YOU ARE ON EG30 RADIO!! This is an update for that radio and that radio only! Don't be alarmed, it will take a few seconds to flash it. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND that we don't have a stock EG30 radio, only EG12 or EG31. You can flash those if you want to get off of the EK02 modem, but hopefully this radio will eliminate LoS!
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Stock and Repacked Kernels
This can be flashed over EG30 ROMs, however, there is no known benefit to it as of now. But feel free to download, test it, and report back!
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Rooted EK02 update.zip
This MUST BE FLASHED over STOCK ODEXED EG30. Enough said. Please don't post asking what it can be flashed over because I just gave you the answer. STOCK ODEXED EG30!
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Downloads
EK02 Modem (no way to get back to EG30 because we don't have that radio!! Can still be downgraded to EG12 or EG31) [credit -viperboy-]
Stock Repacks (either choose CWM5 or my new ACSRecovery5) [credit chris41g]
Stock Kernel Untouched [credit chris41g]
Rooted update.zip [credit chris41g]
Thanks, once again, to kingsway8605!!
Just a note on some of the posts I am seeing in the thread:
(1) I haven't had the update long enough to say if it fixes the LoS for everyone, but since I received it yesterday I have not received an LoS when I used to get them all the time. Your mileage may vary. The screencap below shows what you should have if you install everything correctly.
(2) I am not a dev, I am just lucky. The great devs viper mentioned in his post spent a lot of time helping me get the update off of my phone. Methods of extracting the update.zip that worked with older phones did not work with this phone, which only complicated the process.
If you cannot install it, it is not our fault. You knew the risks when hacking your phone. I only received an OTA and the great devs were able to help me extract this OTA from my phone. At this point, it appears that even when the official OTA update is pushed to your phone, that it will still fail. The moden update only works on EG30 phones, period. Unless a dev can pull some amazing hackery or Samsung gives us a full tar, you are just going to have to wait. The kernel update should work just fine. If you are not EG30, I recommend Calk's EK02 ROM in another thread.
(3) As pointed out in (2), you hack your phone at your own risk. While this is an official OTA pushed to me by Sprint, it was pushed to ME by Sprint and not you. I have a person to call if this OTA screws up my future update path, but I have no idea how this will affect your future update path. INSTALL AT YOUR OWN RISK.
(4) The update includes some very minor UI enhancements and minor bug fixes in addition to the LoS fix.
yay we did it
cant WAIT to see what comes of this. thanks!
Awesome work, everyone!! Kingsway8605, Viperboy, all the others who helped. It was cool to see it happen. Cant wait to see the results.
Nice. Thanks Kings.
Thanks king for yur hard work, I followed the whole thing in the chat and it was epic...
Great to hear. A couple of questions. Does it break root or is the update rooted? Also do we need to be on a stock rom for it to work?
epic evening
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Great to hear. A couple of questions. Does it break root or is the update rooted? Also do we need to be on a stock rom for it to work?
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yes it breaks root, and we dont know yet, but most likely yes.
This was a mission but we did it! hahaha Didnt we have fun?
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Great to hear. A couple of questions. Does it break root or is the update rooted? Also do we need to be on a stock rom for it to work?
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Still testing it, Viperboy will be updating OP soon with details on who, what, where, when and why.
Great community!
And chainfire just added support for the epic touch for mobile odin!
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Great work gentlemen, thank you.
Kings followed directions like a pro, it got a little wild and autoprime had to silence the room... but all in all good job.
notes: yes it will break root, yes you have to be on stock eg30...
i am uploading a rooted version, and i have already uploaded stock repacks of the kernel
Stock Repacks:
http://chris41g.devphone.org/index.php?dir=EpicTouch/Stock+Repack/EK02/
either choose CWM5 or my new ACSRecovery5
Stock Kernel Untouched:
http://chris41g.devphone.org/index.php?dir=EpicTouch/Stock+Roms/EK02/
Rooted update zip:
http://chris41g.devphone.org/index.php?dir=EpicTouch/Stock+Roms/
Updated OP with all current links!
So just to be clear. If your on the eg31 modem right now you can't use any of this? Thanks again to all involved.
I'm so confused.. so we can update from eg31 to ek02, haha I'm droopy from nyquil.. willcehck out tomorrow I guess
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Tiffany84 said:
So just to be clear. If your on the eg31 modem right now you can't use any of this? Thanks again to all involved.
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expertzero1 said:
I'm so confused.. so we can update from eg31 to ek02, haha I'm droopy from nyquil.. willcehck out tomorrow I guess
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You have to be stock EG30 as Chris said, but still working on it.
Flashing the modem .zip returns an error... file is 170kb? Possible upload error?
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You have to be stock EG30 as Chris said, but still working on it.
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I believe you have to be stock EG30 to flash the update.zip - you should be able to flash just the modem regardless of what ROM/Modem you're currently running. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
I have been reading a ton, but can't find a straight answer.
Is there a way to go from EG31 -> EK02?
I have seen the zip, but it says from EG30 only. Is there a way to go:
EG31->EG30->EK02?
And, have people been happy with EK02? Getting rid of LOS?
The only way, currently, to upgrade to a EK02 modem is if you are on the EG30 modem.
As far as LoS, there's a thread here in general about it. Seems as if it's still an issue (on non stock kernels).
EG31 -> EK02 ROM/Kernel - yes
EG31 -> EK02 Modem - no
Just to add, when the EK02 update is officially pushed out, a full system TAR will likely come very soon thereafter that the dev community will get its hands on. So while there's no way to go from EG31 to EK02 modems currently, it shouldn't be too much longer (sometime this month) that we'll have a full EK02 modem to flash.
Thanks guys for clarifying.
And yes, I did mean EK02 modem
So i dont understand why we cant flash the mdoem over the other one like on an epic.
Will it not allow you to flash it, or will it just brick you until you odin back to eg31?
Like what happens when you try to flash ek02 and your on eg30
And if it gives an error, couldnt someone edit the eg31 modem files so that odin thinks its eg30, "a name field" or something?
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So i dont understand why we cant flash the mdoem over the other one like on an epic.
Will it not allow you to flash it, or will it just brick you until you odin back to eg31?
Like what happens when you try to flash ek02 and your on eg30
And if it gives an error, couldnt someone edit the eg31 modem files so that odin thinks its eg30, "a name field" or something?
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Tried it. The check sum is more complicated than that. Not sure what's being verified. Some sort of hash.
sfhub said:
EG31 -> EK02 ROM/Kernel - yes
EG31 -> EK02 Modem - no
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What he meant to say was:
EG30 -> EK02 ROM/Kernel - yes
EG31 -> EK02 Modem - no
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Tried it. The check sum is more complicated than that. Not sure what's being verified. Some sort of hash.
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Fair enough.
Thanks for the info!
sfhub said:
EG31 -> EK02 ROM/Kernel - yes
EG31 -> EK02 Modem - no
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What he meant to say was:
EG30 -> EK02 ROM/Kernel - yes
EG31 -> EK02 Modem - no
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No, I meant it the way I wrote it.
If you are using the Sprint OTA update, then it'll only work on EG30.
However, folks here have applied the OTA EG30->EK02 to an EG30 system, then pulled a full EK02 ROM and full EK02 Kernel, placing them in ODIN tar files and CWM update.zips. Since those are full pulls, they can be applied on top of any ROM/Kernel, even custom ROMs and Kernels.
Now that Sprint is pushing out the official EK02 over the air, we will be able to pull the modem from the newer code. So, now - officially - we will be able to start going from EG31 straight to EK02 modem's. I haven't heard any real strong "advantages" to going to EK02 from EG31, however, if you're running an EK02 kernel. There have been a few posts with users saying their D/L speeds were slower after upgrading to EK02. Might be something to consider, unless you're still getting LoS with EK02-based kernel and an EG31 modem.
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Now that Sprint is pushing out the official EK02 over the air, we will be able to pull the modem from the newer code. So, now - officially - we will be able to start going from EG31 straight to EK02 modem's. I haven't heard any real strong "advantages" to going to EK02 from EG31, however, if you're running an EK02 kernel. There have been a few posts with users saying their D/L speeds were slower after upgrading to EK02. Might be something to consider, unless you're still getting LoS with EK02-based kernel and an EG31 modem.
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Would have been nice if that were true, but unfortunately the EK02 pushed today was still only an incremental update predicated on EG30. So, no, those of us on anything but EG30 (i.e. EG31, EG12, previous EK02) still will not be able to upgrade to the latest pushed version. And it looks like (based on the two leaks and lack of EG30) Samsung may not be presenting us with any complete tars at all. That would be very bad. Hopefully someone figures out a way to get us all back to original EG30.
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Would have been nice if that were true, but unfortunately the EK02 pushed today was still only an incremental update predicated on EG30. So, no, those of us on anything but EG30 (i.e. EG31, EG12, previous EK02) still will not be able to upgrade to the latest pushed version. And it looks like (based on the two leaks and lack of EG30) Samsung may not be presenting us with any complete tars at all. That would be very bad. Hopefully someone figures out a way to get us all back to original EG30.
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How did y'all get off of eg30 I'm new around these parts ?
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auau465121 said:
How did y'all get off of eg30 I'm new around these parts ?
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There was a leaked version of the radio, EG31, and some of us decided to risk it to see if it fixed any of the LoS and other issues, not knowing we would be stuck there. Fortunately EG31 works well enough for most of us, just gets a little "claustrophobic" being stuck on the same modem indefinitely.
Just_s said:
There was a leaked version of the radio, EG31, and some of us decided to risk it to see if it fixed any of the LoS and other issues, not knowing we would be stuck there. Fortunately EG31 works well enough for most of us, just gets a little "claustrophobic" being stuck on the same modem indefinitely.
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O okay thx I guess I jumped in at the right time cause I am a flasholic I know I would haves flashed it lol
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EK30 modem is now available for flashing (as of today.) It's now possible to go from EG31 -> EK02.
Hello all,
Just wondering if anyone has had the same issue as me with EI22... I have had it twice now and eventually the 2g just goes away, wont connect and then i lose the signal completely... I have odined back to EC05 and it works good. I just upgraded to ACS ICS 5.5 from v2 of ACS.. I have noticed that signal seems weaker with EC05, wanted to go back to EI22 but didnt want to encounter the same issue...
anyone else have this? any ideas or help?
Thanks!
bpdfs said:
Hello all,
Just wondering if anyone has had the same issue as me with EI22... I have had it twice now and eventually the 2g just goes away, wont connect and then i lose the signal completely... I have odined back to EC05 and it works good. I just upgraded to ACS ICS 5.5 from v2 of ACS.. I have noticed that signal seems weaker with EC05, wanted to go back to EI22 but didnt want to encounter the same issue...
anyone else have this? any ideas or help?
Thanks!
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try installing a different kernel, than update your "prl" and "profile"... then reboot your phone. see what happens. a really good kernel that i recommend is the shadowkernel
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or why it even happens.
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try installing a different kernel, than update your "prl" and "profile"... then reboot your phone. see what happens. a really good kernel that i recommend is the shadowkernel
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or why it even happens.
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im on samuri_gen 1.2 kernel now.. i thought that was a good one...
well it's suppose to be, but if your having problems with signal and speed, perhaps for kicks or trial and error, you should try a different kernel, just to see what happens. maybe better results, maybe not. only one way to find out.
I'm certain signal has nothing to do with the kernel try flashing other modems on ei22. I that sometimes others phones like other versions of modems ec05 and ei22 and not he only ones. Just the official "stable" but other are still usable. As for speed yes the kernel has to do with. Also try going back to ec05 not updating to ei22 but rooting and flashing a ei22 rom and flash the delta zip modemEc05toEi22.zip
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I'm certain signal has nothing to do with the kernel try flashing other modems on ei22. I that sometimes others phones like other versions of modems ec05 and ei22 and not he only ones. Just the official "stable" but other are still usable. As for speed yes the kernel has to do with. Also try going back to ec05 not updating to ei22 but rooting and flashing a ei22 rom and flash the delta zip modemEc05toEi22.zip
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hey bigg, last night i tried flashing a coworkers phone on the ec05-eit22 zip, and all i got was a fail error message. their phone wasn't even rooted yet. i copied the file over their epic. you ever heard of that happening?
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hey bigg, last night i tried flashing a coworkers phone on the ec05-eit22 zip, and all i got was a fail error message. their phone wasn't even rooted yet. i copied the file over their epic. you ever heard of that happening?
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What satus was it I know 6 is a script problem and 7 has to do with zip. Signing. It could be he needed to download it him self and the data got lost over the transfer did you check the md5 sum?
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hey bigg, last night i tried flashing a coworkers phone on the ec05-eit22 zip, and all i got was a fail error message. their phone wasn't even rooted yet. i copied the file over their epic. you ever heard of that happening?
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If their phone wasn't rooted yet how did you get clockworkmod on? Odin? You can't flash with stock recovery.
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no, their phone is not rooted "yet", but i booted into "stock" recovery and just hit install update zip. oohh, i think i know what happened. i didn't click on the file name and rename it to update.zip... thats why it probably failed. wow, how did i miss that.
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no, their phone is not rooted "yet", but i booted into "stock" recovery and just hit install update zip. oohh, i think i know what happened. i didn't click on the file name and rename it to update.zip... thats why it probably failed. wow, how did i miss that.
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You cannot do that. Only Samsung or Sprint signed zips can be done as an update.zip. So it would have to be renamed and ssigned or it will fail. He needs to root first and that is easy on EC05.
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I'm certain signal has nothing to do with the kernel try flashing other modems on ei22. I that sometimes others phones like other versions of modems ec05 and ei22 and not he only ones. Just the official "stable" but other are still usable. As for speed yes the kernel has to do with. Also try going back to ec05 not updating to ei22 but rooting and flashing a ei22 rom and flash the delta zip modemEc05toEi22.zip
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what exactly is this modemec05toei22.zip?? Whats the difference from just runing the ei22 iteself?
Where is this file located
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what exactly is this modemec05toei22.zip?? Whats the difference from just runing the ei22 iteself?
Where is this file located
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It is a delta script bulit to change your modem to the ei22 since there is not an official tar for ei22 modems. And it could help you because I know some people have issues with signal when they update rather than take the path of just flashing an ei22 rom and updating there modem thru the modem.zip and ill upload you it in a minute.
http://db.tt/9icy8xnd
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what exactly is this modemec05toei22.zip?? Whats the difference from just runing the ei22 iteself?
Where is this file located
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The only way to get the ei22 modem is to either accept the ota update to ei22 gb or to root and flash the ec05toei22.zip on a rooted phone... I think I still have the delta file somewhere I will post here when I find it...
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The only way to get the ei22 modem is to either accept the ota update to ei22 gb or to root and flash the ec05toei22.zip on a rooted phone... I think I still have the delta file somewhere I will post here when I find it...
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Jhey hey he asked. Me first xD
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bpdfs said:
what exactly is this modemec05toei22.zip?? Whats the difference from just runing the ei22 iteself?
Where is this file located
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If this doesn't help id suggest flashing a different modem.... like eh17,eg22,ef02, etc etc.... each works differently for everyones phone and location.
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Biggoron said:
It is a delta script bulit to change your modem to the ei22 since there is not an official tar for ei22 modems. And it could help you because I know some people have issues with signal when they update rather than take the path of just flashing an ei22 rom and updating there modem thru the modem.zip and ill upload you it in a minute.
http://db.tt/9icy8xnd
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So just boot into CWM and install that zip? That is it? nothing else special is needed?
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So just boot into CWM and install that zip? That is it? nothing else special is needed?
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Nope simple as pie
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this will answer the question. (and to kennyglass), the method he used, is what i did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnk6lfBh5rI
except for the rename. i did the rename on my epic, which allowed me to perform the install.
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this will answer the question. (and to kennyglass), the method he used, is what i did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnk6lfBh5rI
except for the rename. i did the rename on my epic, which allowed me to perform the install.
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That video says to do.exactly what I said...flash it in clockworkmod. Update.zip will not work.
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Hey guys. I recently got an old Samsung Epic 4G Touch due to my HTC Evo 4G LTE breaking from water damage. I've been able to root the Galaxy and flash a version of jellybean (beanstalk). However, when I try to flash any other ROMs than this, the data doesn't work. I've tried flashing the correct modems (I think) to no avail. Any suggestions?
Can you post a screen shot of your about phone page that shows the modem. What carrier are you on?
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bigmike6200 said:
Can you post a screen shot of your about phone page that shows the modem. What carrier are you on?
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Here, I think this is it. I am on Sprint.
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Here, I think this is it. I am on Sprint.
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You probably need to update your Profile and PRL. Flash back to a Touchwiz ROM to get it done... I would flash an ICS version to not worry about changing the modem.
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You probably need to update your Profile and PRL. Flash back to a Touchwiz ROM to get it done... I would flash an ICS version to not worry about changing the modem.
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Could you tell me how to do that? I'm not sure if I have been doing it the correct way.
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Could you tell me how to do that? I'm not sure if I have been doing it the correct way.
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I don't have info on FB27. If you are on Sprint it should be GB27. That is the modem. You should slow down before you brick the phone. You should have some one-click files on your PC to take your phone back to stock if need be. Also you should have a touchwiz modem as well as an ICS modem on the phone. I would suggest FL24 and GB27. A copy of EL29 direct boot. A copy of AGATs recovery. A copy of Philz touch recovery. A copy of Mobile Odin Lite. To update to the current PRL you can do as @Surj138 says just so you don't have to flash modems. I think you are on the wrong modem anyway. Flash a modem in recovery. Don't do it through Mobile Odin.
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I don't have info on FB27. If you are on Sprint it should be GB27. That is the modem. You should slow down before you brick the phone. You should have some one-click files on your PC to take your phone back to stock if need be. Also you should have a touchwiz modem as well as an ICS modem on the phone. I would suggest FL24 and GB27. A copy of EL29 direct boot. A copy of AGATs recovery. A copy of Philz touch recovery. A copy of Mobile Odin Lite. To update to the current PRL you can do as @Surj138 says just so you don't have to flash modems. I think you are on the wrong modem anyway. Flash a modem in recovery. Don't do it through Mobile Odin.
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FB27 should be fine... Any gingerbread or ics modem will work. But I would update to FL24 anyway.
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FB27 should be fine... Any gingerbread or ics modem will work. But I would update to FL24 anyway.
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Sorry, this is all still fairly new to me. I'm used to flashing ROMs easily on my Evo lol. Could you point me to a tutorial that will show me how to do this?
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Sorry, this is all still fairly new to me. I'm used to flashing ROMs easily on my Evo lol. Could you point me to a tutorial that will show me how to do this?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/epic-4g-touch/help/how-to-root-phone-upgrade-to-kitkat-t2913328
here is a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rnk617FffXY&list=UUbR6jJpva9VIIAHTse4C3hw
bigmike6200 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/epic-4g-touch/help/how-to-root-phone-upgrade-to-kitkat-t2913328
here is a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rnk617FffXY&list=UUbR6jJpva9VIIAHTse4C3hw
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Do I have to flash anything else than what is mentioned in this thread/video?
bigmike6200 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/epic-4g-touch/help/how-to-root-phone-upgrade-to-kitkat-t2913328
here is a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rnk617FffXY&list=UUbR6jJpva9VIIAHTse4C3hw
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Ok, so I flashed that stock ROM but now it doesn't boot. When I flash the stock 4.1.2 ROM, it boots up and works fine. Any suggestions?
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Do I have to flash anything else than what is mentioned in this thread/video?
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Just remember that if you want to flash a non-touchwiz JB or KK ROM, you have to be on a ICS modem (bigmike suggested FL24). If you are on touchwiz JB (stock, or one of the touchwiz custom ROMs for this phone), you can flash a JB modem (such as GB27).
I think you have to be on touchwiz to change the phone number. You have to be on touchwiz to update profile and PRL. But you can be on an ICS modem in touchwiz to do that.
If you want 4g on this phone, you have to be on touchwiz -- or at least you did, until last Monday (Nov. 3), when dastin released a version of CM11 for this phone that works with 4g. That's what I am running on my phone and it works for me.