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Anyone know just why various apps prevent the phone from sleeping despite the fact they are not shown to be running, nor reported by Spare Parts as the culprit? I mean there are some apps I've had to uninstall to get my phone to sleep, but can't figure out why it is happening. I've been using Spare Parts to see if I can catch the bad actor, but it only will tell me if it is not sleeping and the other options don't hint at the problem either. I use my wife's Epic (which never has a problem sleeping) to compare against, as she has fewer apps. If an app is not running in the background but keeps the phone away just by it's very presence on the phone, what can cause that and why is there no way to find out the culprit besides hit and miss deleting? Too bad there's not a Wakelock app or setting on the phone that you could use to let you have the app, but keep it quiet.
Rogue apps like this seem to be the number one issue with huge battery use.
You can do stuff like disable background data sync... Uninstall facebook and apps like it. Remove widgets... etc..
But in the end it's such a PITA to manage... and when you finally get it working right, all it takes is "hey this looks cool... /download" and you're back where you started.
You're probably best off buying an extended battery.... My phone lasts 10 hours now with whatever it is that keeps my phone from sleeping.
Have you tried using Watchdog?
orb360 said:
Rogue apps like this seem to be the number one issue with huge battery use.
You can do stuff like disable background data sync... Uninstall facebook and apps like it. Remove widgets... etc..
But in the end it's such a PITA to manage... and when you finally get it working right, all it takes is "hey this looks cool... /download" and you're back where you started.
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Oh how true! LMAO!
orb360 said:
Rogue apps like this seem to be the number one issue with huge battery use.
You can do stuff like disable background data sync... Uninstall facebook and apps like it. Remove widgets... etc..
But in the end it's such a PITA to manage... and when you finally get it working right, all it takes is "hey this looks cool... /download" and you're back where you started.
You're probably best off buying an extended battery.... My phone lasts 10 hours now with whatever it is that keeps my phone from sleeping.
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Have you tried using Watchdog?
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Yes, I tried it, but it apparently only warns if an app reaches some threshold of cpu usage. It didn't help me find an app that was only preventing my phone from sleeping...unless I wasn't using it correctly.
Every so often my galaxy nexus will just get really hot in my pocket and start draining battery like crazy. I stopped all the apps and processes and the battery was still draining. I even turned the phone off but when i turned it back on it just got really hot again and the battery was still plummeting.
I'm pretty sure this didnt happen before I got the 4.0.2 update but might have nothing to do with it.
I even got 2x battery to see if it helped on some useless processes that might be causing it and I though it worked as it didnt happen again for a while... until yesterday.
This happened to anyone else or have any idea what it could be?
You need to more specific, Are you rooted? overclocked? pure stock?...something is causing it to run this way either that or your pure stock nexus could have a defect..any device getting hot is causing stress to the battery and hardware,which over all long period of time will most likely cause the device to break...
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oh yeah. Its just pure stock
pull the battery out for like 10 seconds...and power it back on,and clear all recent apps..what is 2x battery a app?..or do you mean the extended battery?....
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I usually reboot after a update ..just to make sure settings are reset and working properly
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Usually this is due to a rogue app. Use the built-in battery monitor as well as BetterBatteryStats to identify the app and remove it.
BTW, it's the battery drain causing the phone to get hot. Heat, by itself, will not cause battery drain (not on the timescale you're talking about at least). Just a cause and effect FYI.
clear all recent apps? i turned it off and back on. i shouldnt really need to take the battery out should i? but then after a while it stops doing it??? like when i plugged in the charger.
2xbattery is suppose to be a battery saving app
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Usually this is due to a rogue app. Use the built-in battery monitor as well as BetterBatteryStats to identify the app and remove it.
BTW, it's the battery drain causing the phone to get hot. Not the other way around. Just a cause and effect FYI.
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when i went to the battery monitor it just said the main battery use was exchange services, screen and OS not much else.
plus when rebooting the phone shouldnt this have stopped the "rouge app"?
Some apps will start themselves at boot. A reboot will thus not solve the problem.
As for exchange, what are your settings? Push, or poll? If poll, how often? Are you still getting email?
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Some apps will start themselves at boot. A reboot will thus not solve the problem.
As for exchange, what are your settings? Push, or poll? If poll, how often? Are you still getting email?
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Yeah im gettin email its on push. It only happens now and again tho, not all the time. Plus the battery saver is suppose to minimize checks and stuff
Is your phone holding signal? My phone only gets hot when it can't find and hold a signal.
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Is your phone holding signal? My phone only gets hot when it can't find and hold a signal.
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This could actually be a possibility come to think of it. Every time its happened I was in a place known as "the bat cave".
Is there any theory on this?
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Its possible that exchange services was top of the battery use list actually. Would this have anything to do with searching for or holding a signal?
Next time it happens I'll try closing exchange services to see if its that or if it it is I'm not getting a signal I'll try putting it in airplane mode to see if that stops it.
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Hey guys. What is the best app to find apps that are running and eating up battery? Yesterday my phone starting having abnormal battery drain when the screen is off. I lost 30% overnight! Yikes!
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Hey guys. What is the best app to find apps that are running and eating up battery? Yesterday my phone starting having abnormal battery drain when the screen is off. I lost 30% overnight! Yikes!
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Just use the stock App Manager in settings. And if battery is an issue, go to About Phone, then battery and you can see whats been using it. Hope this helped
i like ZDbox app.
don't use task manager they screw **** up more then they fix, suggestion,
Find the list of safe to remove apps and remove ones u don't need, apps lik keis, mms, gmail/email, etc are constantly running, remove and replace wirh 3rd party counterparts.
Use a rom with CIQ removed, use undervolting scripts helps with battery aswell.
I can't stress this enough, DONT USE TASK KILLERS unless u know what their actually designed for.
Think of it like a PC in this sense, if you use taskmanager and kill a load of programs, depending on what u kill, can have horrible side effects, in the sense of android, when an apps not closed properly, peices can still exist in the ram.
Those peices can have effects on that, and other programs on your phone.
Your best bet for clearing ram is a reboot.
Simple, as for seeing programs running, hold home and hit taskmanager (plz keep in mind the above)
Or simply go to SETTINGS>applications>memory use and click running tab on top right.
Hope this helps. Peace
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Just use the stock App Manager in settings. And if battery is an issue, go to About Phone, then battery and you can see whats been using it. Hope this helped
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Im thinking it has to be an app gone wild. Ive never had a battery issue with TDJ's stuff. Overnight i get maybe 5% drop over 8 or 9 hours.
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Im thinking it has to be an app gone wild. Ive never had a battery issue with TDJ's stuff. Overnight i get maybe 5% drop over 8 or 9 hours.
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Ye there's no way it should b doin that..
10pm to 5:30am my battery drops 7-10%
@OP
2 possible solutions:
1.) Above post gut it pretty good
2.) Kernels not allowing deep sleep mode, flash a new kernel
#2 seems more plausible at this point considering your OP in full.
If its abnormal battery drain screen off ur phones not enabling deep sleep.
At this point most apps are effectively "paused" or slowed down
Making the battery drain almost irrelevant, my battery dies about 1% hourly screen off
Thanks to this mode.
Apps like SetCPU etc. Can also cause this if configured incorrectly
If using a CPU. Control app, uninstall it, trust the phone enough to do
Its own thing.
I will never recommend taskmanagers or CPU utilitys, if I did, what's the point in kernel deving besides OC?
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Ye there's no way it should b doin that..
10pm to 5:30am my battery drops 7-10%
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2 possible solutions:
1.) Above post gut it pretty good
2.) Kernels not allowing deep sleep mode, flash a new kernel
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Im going get the app that was suggested a few posts above and see whats up. Cant do that til later tonight. We cant have our cell phones at work. TDJ's kernels have been crazy good about deep sleeping. Thanks for the help guys!
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Im going get the app that was suggested a few posts above and see whats up. Cant do that til later tonight. We cant have our cell phones at work. TDJ's kernels have been crazy good about deep sleeping. Thanks for the help guys!
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Updated post should read if u have SetCPU or similar..
Mod can delete this post. Completely irrelevant to post, just givin OP another tip without new post.. xD
Ok well let me just start off by saying. I LOVE this forum and the helpful and friendly people. Lemme give ya a run down on what I'm rockin' on this marvelous piece of technology.
Bootloader Unlocked - Check
Root - Check
R800x Timescape UK Firmware ROM - Check
V6 Supercharger - Check (Could use help making it start on boot.)
Better Battery Stats - Check (Could also use some more help since I'm a noob XD. More below!)
Battery Life - QUESTIONABLE
And here lies my problem here. Ever since I switched to the UK Firmware from Verizon's I've noticed the phones true potential and love the UK Firmware. However what is up with the terrible battery life? I've tried everything... It seems to DRAIN 1% every 5 minutes when I'm at school!!
BetterBatteryStats talks about wakelocks. I get this one sometimes called UID and have no idea what it is, and have looked for a solution but found never in ACTUAL terms I could understand. Also there's a blue bar and a red bar on the stats for those. Can someone please tell me the difference between them?
I've deleted Juice Defender as some people said it actually DRAINS your battery more. I've also heard this phone lasts sometimes 3-4 days on a FULL CHARGE?! I'd like that please! :O
Well when I'm at school I put my phones Brightness to 30%, Vibrate, and off WiFi.
I listen to Music and that seems to drain the battery ALOT more than I think it should.
Also, when playing Asphalt 6 HD, I was at 57% battery, I played for maybe under 10 minutes and had 44% LEFT!!! That's TERRIBLE!
Can someone please tell me how to make my battery last like others have it?
I also have 2X Battery installed but disabled and only showing my battery % on my taskbar up top.
Thanks again in advance for your answers and I hope I have provided enough info. THANKS!
If u don't use it during school then power it off. Also kill some tasks so your phone won't work hard and kill morw battery life.
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If u don't use it during school then power it off. Also kill some tasks so your phone won't work hard and kill morw battery life.
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I do use it during school. Sometimes as a Calculator, to text my family or if they have to call me in case of emergencies. I also game on it at lunch or listen to music when on a free period so...
And I do kill tasks all the time. It seems to just open themselves back up. Also I played Dead Space last night with 100% charge for maybe about an hour or 2 and the damn battery drained down to 55%!!!
I was on WiFi as well...
Squall429 said:
I do use it during school. Sometimes as a Calculator, to text my family or if they have to call me in case of emergencies. I also game on it at lunch or listen to music when on a free period so...
And I do kill tasks all the time. It seems to just open themselves back up. Also I played Dead Space last night with 100% charge for maybe about an hour or 2 and the damn battery drained down to 55%!!!
I was on WiFi as well...
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You honestly can't expect a game such as that to run on this phone and merely sip at the battery's juice. The percentage remaining when coming out of an intensive task, such as watching video or playing a game, isn't entirely accurate. Check the battery again after a few minutes of idle time, and it should be a little higher than it was before.
I use an app called Battery Defender. It's very easy to set up, and the main option is to kill the 3G data while the screen is off. You're still able to receive calls and texts and such, but the data is off, since you're not using it. That saves a lot of battery for me. You can also set it on a timed profile, where it shuts off all network connectivity during a set time.
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You honestly can't expect a game such as that to run on this phone and merely sip at the battery's juice. The percentage remaining when coming out of an intensive task, such as watching video or playing a game, isn't entirely accurate. Check the battery again after a few minutes of idle time, and it should be a little higher than it was before.
I use an app called Battery Defender. It's very easy to set up, and the main option is to kill the 3G data while the screen is off. You're still able to receive calls and texts and such, but the data is off, since you're not using it. That saves a lot of battery for me. You can also set it on a timed profile, where it shuts off all network connectivity during a set time.
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Thanks I'll give that app a try.
Also I just feel I'm being mis-leaded by others then. Because I read on the android Forums people play games from 1-2 hours, stop, go to the store or mall for like 5 hours, come home, play again for another hour, and sleep and wake up with it at 7% charge or something.
Are you saying ti's normal for my battery to suck that much juice on Dead Space?
Dead Space is one of the most graphics intensive games you'll get to see in this phone. It's not Cut the Rope...
Well.. despite my other questions is anyone able to answer them..? ABout the battery stats app and such?
Also what would seem to be a normal rate of 1% battery loss? How many mins or hours do you think seems normal?
Squall429 said:
Well.. despite my other questions is anyone able to answer them..? ABout the battery stats app and such?
Also what would seem to be a normal rate of 1% battery loss? How many mins or hours do you think seems normal?
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Did you wipe your battery stats before installing the rom? Let it drain to 0%, charge it without interruption? after that then you must let it drain fully and recharge too 100% without interruption again. This will "train" the battery. I have a battery calibration app if you'd like to use it
I would suggest you to do a fresh install. Wipe everything and start afresh. Don't restore anything and see what happens.
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Did you wipe your battery stats before installing the rom? Let it drain to 0%, charge it without interruption? after that then you must let it drain fully and recharge too 100% without interruption again. This will "train" the battery. I have a battery calibration app if you'd like to use it
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Yes I have done this. But ONCE. I haven't let it die again yet. Using Battery Defender is saving it's battery atm. Should I kill it again and let it do so?
Also for the Battery Calibration don't I have to do some weird thing with getting the phone to power on without the battery?
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I would suggest you to do a fresh install. Wipe everything and start afresh. Don't restore anything and see what happens.
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Thanks for your input, but I have too many things on my phone right now that I would lose. I wouldn't want to lose all my data.
Squall429 said:
Yes I have done this. But ONCE. I haven't let it die again yet. Using Battery Defender is saving it's battery atm. Should I kill it again and let it do so?
Also for the Battery Calibration don't I have to do some weird thing with getting the phone to power on without the battery?
Thanks for your input, but I have too many things on my phone right now that I would lose. I wouldn't want to lose all my data.
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Make a backup of all your data, then do a fresh install. The battery calibration app is simple, charge your phone to 100% and click calibrate. Then let it die to 0% and fully charge without any disruption..it's pretty simple
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Make a backup of all your data, then do a fresh install. The battery calibration app is simple, charge your phone to 100% and click calibrate. Then let it die to 0% and fully charge without any disruption..it's pretty simple
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Must I make a fresh install or can I do it without a fresh install?
The battery calibration has nothing to do with a full wipe and reinstall. The fresh install is simply to fix problems that you are having, that no one else has, or doesn't have in such great force.
If you're worried about losing your data, get an app called Titanium Backup. It will allow you to backup your apps and app data to your sd card, then restore them at any time you deem necessary. There is a free version, but I would definitely recommend buying the unlock key. It makes your restores faster, and enables some specific functions that are locked out of the free version. This is my third Android phone, and the app has proven its usefulness time and time again, across each of them. It's the best way to port installed apps from phone to phone, as well.
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The battery calibration has nothing to do with a full wipe and reinstall. The fresh install is simply to fix problems that you are having, that no one else has, or doesn't have in such great force.
If you're worried about losing your data, get an app called Titanium Backup. It will allow you to backup your apps and app data to your sd card, then restore them at any time you deem necessary. There is a free version, but I would definitely recommend buying the unlock key. It makes your restores faster, and enables some specific functions that are locked out of the free version. This is my third Android phone, and the app has proven its usefulness time and time again, across each of them. It's the best way to port installed apps from phone to phone, as well.
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Here's the thing. I have Titanium Backup. XD And also, I have done a Fresh Install before because I had this ROM then I switched to ICS Beta which was terrible so I fresh installed the UK Rom again and it didn't make a difference to when I had it before ICS BETA, so does that count? x.x
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Make a backup of all your data, then do a fresh install. The battery calibration app is simple, charge your phone to 100% and click calibrate. Then let it die to 0% and fully charge without any disruption..it's pretty simple
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Where can I get the app?
Squall429 said:
Here's the thing. I have Titanium Backup. XD And also, I have done a Fresh Install before because I had this ROM then I switched to ICS Beta which was terrible so I fresh installed the UK Rom again and it didn't make a difference to when I had it before ICS BETA, so does that count? x.x
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Is your battery life any different now than it was before the ICS beta?
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Is your battery life any different now than it was before the ICS beta?
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Well...it seemed my battery life was better on the STOCK Verizon ROM but that ROM sucks for everything else..
So does anyone have the link to that battery calibrator app?
Ok so I bought this phone on Monday. The very first day it gave me a mammoth battery life. I mean a ridiculous OST of 5h 45m 9s and still 7% juice left (screenshots attached in 2nd post).
And then the very next day issues started. First the Android OS... I charged my phone 100% and slept. Woke up and saw it at around 61%.. Shocked and unhappy. Googled a bit and by Noon I stopped a lot of Samsung **** going on at the back. Android OS became normal but MEDIA started to show its baddd side..
And just try to see in the screenshots, it shows the WIFI was on all time/all the time. However I never turned it on. It was off all night.
Screenshots are attached below. Would love some help/guidance here.
And one more thing. All of a sudden the Lock Screen's funky wallpaper has changed into a blue screen wallpaper that has some weird shortcuts ! Why is it happening. Restating the device brings back the same funky paint color wallpaper but then within minutes its back to the same sh*t.
First day usage SCs
do you have any screenshot(s) of the blue screen wallpaper with the weird shortcuts? I'm not experiencing any issues like this.
Don't you think you've touched it unconsciously while you're asleep with parts of your body that toggled the wifi and other stuff?
Try a factory reset
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do you have any screenshot(s) of the blue screen wallpaper with the weird shortcuts? I'm not experiencing any issues like this.
Don't you think you've touched it unconsciously while you're asleep with parts of your body that toggled the wifi and other stuff?
Try a factory reset
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Oh factory reset sucks lol. By the way, I was reading from somewhere (android central forum i think) that to kill Android OS frome ating up all battery, install some CLEAR RAM app to clear your RAM.. which I did. And yesternight I figured out that this clear ram app changed my lockscreen itself..without asking me. So i deleted. Also, I deleted everything on SD Card and removed it. Now I dont know whats keeping the Android OS and MEDIA up all the time. The apps I have installed so far are:
skype, whatsapp, viber, sacebook and temple run. They were installed from day 1 so if they are creating problems, why didnt they create any impact on Day 1? And these are pretty normal apps which I dont think should create any problem.
Plus, wifi always on issue is resolved to by unchecking some option in wifi menu.
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Oh factory reset sucks lol. By the way, I was reading from somewhere (android central forum i think) that to kill Android OS frome ating up all battery, install some CLEAR RAM app to clear your RAM.. which I did. And yesternight I figured out that this clear ram app changed my lockscreen itself..without asking me. So i deleted. Also, I deleted everything on SD Card and removed it. Now I dont know whats keeping the Android OS and MEDIA up all the time. The apps I have installed so far are:
skype, whatsapp, viber, sacebook and temple run. They were installed from day 1 so if they are creating problems, why didnt they create any impact on Day 1? And these are pretty normal apps which I dont think should create any problem.
Plus, wifi always on issue is resolved to by unchecking some option in wifi menu.
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delete all the apps u download.then put them back one by one.then monitor each app u download before u download another one.or better root your phone and install greenify.and delete all the bloatware.
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first l sympatise with you. There is no problem on Unrooted phone that factory reset cannot Solve except it is factory fault issue, but this is not factory Cos it was ok on day 1.
Your instant messager like Skype and BBM are mainly the applications that hog battery.
Ensure you did not restrict background processes in Developers option.
Ensure your wifi 'and GPS are off when you don't need them.
Don't install any process killer.
Stop auto update
put your phone in battery saving mode.
check to see If there is downloading process going on at background
Also see if there is live streaming (MEDIA SERVER) going on sites you visited like Youtube.
check the running processes in application manager in setting and check if any is constantly RESTARTING. Look for a way to stop such .
Above all try to wait for the research l did on BATTERY POWER AND DATA MANAGEMENT which I will post soon.
Good Luck
Well, one thing that helps is retracing your steps back from the time the problem was first noticed.
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first l sympatise with you. There is no problem on Unrooted phone that factory reset cannot Solve except it is factory fault issue, but this is not factory Cos it was ok on day 1.
Your instant messager like Skype and BBM are mainly the applications that hog battery.
Ensure you did not restrict background processes in Developers option.
Ensure your wifi 'and GPS are off when you don't need them.
Don't install any process killer.
Stop auto update
put your phone in battery saving mode.
check to see If there is downloading process going on at background
Also see if there is live streaming (MEDIA SERVER) going on sites you visited like Youtube.
check the running processes in application manager in setting and check if any is constantly RESTARTING. Look for a way to stop such .
Above all try to wait for the research l did on BATTERY POWER AND DATA MANAGEMENT which I will post soon.
Good Luck
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Ensure you did not restrict background processes in Developers option.
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I haven't activated the Developers options as yet.
Ensure your wifi 'and GPS are off when you don't need them.
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Whenever I am not using Wifi and GPS, I "always" turn them off.
Don't install any process killer.
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Don't have any
Stop auto update
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Already stopped it. No auto-update activated since day 1
put your phone in battery saving mode.
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Just turned it on 2 days back.
Also see if there is live streaming (MEDIA SERVER) going on sites you visited like Youtube.
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How to stop it ...the Media Server? if i have played any youtube video etc.
Zubair1024 said:
Well, one thing that helps is retracing your steps back from the time the problem was first noticed.
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Yeah, it's a pain though. But the wakelocks have reduced a bit. from 3...4 hours.. now it reaches 2 at max
filthykid said:
Yeah, it's a pain though. But the wakelocks have reduced a bit. from 3...4 hours.. now it reaches 2 at max
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Oh... Post your performance now then..
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Zubair1024 said:
Oh... Post your performance now then..
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Sure. But I wonder what caused it to go down. Whatever it is, I am happy haha
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Sure. But I wonder what caused it to go down. Whatever it is, I am happy haha
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Haha.. Alright that's great then
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Sure. But I wonder what caused it to go down. Whatever it is, I am happy haha
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Do you mean you phone battery performance is ok now?
Im happy for you.
But you did not PRESS the THANKS Button
omorofos said:
Do you mean you phone battery performance is ok now?
Im happy for you.
But you did not PRESS the THANKS Button
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Haha.. frankly speaking, all the options you told me, I had already applied them since the start. However mate, I just hit Thanks for the time and effort you took to reply. Appreciated bro