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Datel Wii wireless retro controller: Info & Tests

Hi All,
I ordered a Datel Wii wireless retro controller from http://www.codejunkies.com/ and finally got it! Its decently made and if I can get the bugs worked out I would suggest it to others came to about 46 dollars with S&H.
Currently I have tested it out using both Wiimote Controller (by C.C.P.) and Wii Controller IME (by Ryan Frawkley). Both apps seem to sync with this model controller no problem and seem to hold the connection.
Below is a small comparison between the two (for all testing 1 was only installed at a given time)
Wiimote Controller (by C.C.P.)
- Syncs and holds the connection
- Need to have compatibility mode disabled in spare parts to work correctly in full screen mode
- Appears to be able to map both of the analog sticks and all other buttons on the controller
- Views the controller as a classic controller
- Update from Dev - pikipirs
WiimoteController supports what is known as PWM mode. This is not analog stick emulation as Nintendo64 expects, but is as close to it as possible. It works by quickly pressing and depressing emulated keys, something you would be doing for example if you played a racing game on a computer with directional keys and you wanted to turn the steering wheel just a little.
You can activate this mode by going to WiimoteController's Preferences->Advanced settings. You have control over each axis of all sticks (nunchuk's and both from the classic controller). If you want to for example activate PWM for the left classic controller stick, set "CC L-stick X-mode" and "CC L-stick Y-mode" to Analog.
A word of advice: analog sticks have dead spots at the neutral position and when in this position, WiimoteController will not emulate any keys, but it might if your classic controller's analog stick is too sensitive. If you touch the PWM-mode-enabled stick outside your emulators, you'll get a shower of letters, so try to avoid that. Also, when you are plugging your classic controller into the wiimote, don't touch any analog sticks on it because WiimoteController expects all sticks to be in the neutral position when it detects them.​Side note from Jvward - I am a moron who after emailing both dev's I posted the response from pikipirs somehow got confused and posted in the section below, I have since updated it, Also special thanks to pikipirs for reading my post and keeping me on point ​
Wii Controller IME (by Ryan Frawkley)
- This controller is actually suggested as the only non Nintendo made controller by the dev.
- Some buttons don’t work (mainly both analog sticks are un-mappable)
- Because of the problems with both analogs I am unsure how this application views this controller (being as a wiimote or a wiimote with a classic controller)
- I have emailed the dev about the analog support and no response as of this point, I am going to email him again today.​
Preperation
In any of the "oid" app's by yongzh
you need to make the following changes after properly sycning the Datel Wii wireless retro controller (or a wiimote) with either of the two applications listed above. (thanks Salpula for this info):
Input settings > Key Mappings - remap the keys as necessary
Then
Other settings > Use input Method > check off the box
FPse Controller Info:
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Testing
I tested: SNESoid, Nesoid, GameBoid, N64oid, and Gmail using both applications and the controller.
With all of the applications both sync apps worked fine and generally speaking gave the same results, accept for N64.
If anyone remembers who ever made the original N64 controller was probably smoking something good when they designed it and due to this you need to take full advantage of all of the buttons on the Datel Wii wireless retro controller. Only one application was able to do this as of this point, being Wiimote Controller (by C.C.P.). Regardless of how it ran I was only able to play golden eye via Wiimote Controller (by C.C.P.) and not
Wii Controller IME (by Ryan Frawkley)
Conclusions
Datel Wii wireless retro controller is honestly a better controller to sync to any android device in my humble opinion as of this point then a standard wii mote. Most android users will be syncing controllers to their devices to play emulated games and while the wii mote accomplishes this its not great at it, and honestly kind of sucks for systems with alot of buttons on the controller (PS1 and N64). The only way to get around the button limitation as of this point that I know of is using Wiimote Controller (by C.C.P.) and Datel Wii wireless retro controller.
P.S. I would love a PS3 sync app but as of this point it does not exist

Did you set wiiremote ime as the keyboard input?

Hi,
Yep I did.

Alternately, if your Xoom is Rooted, try Rwiimote.

Its not but I guess I could. What's the advantage of rwiimote?
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Not sure what the advantages are, I've only come across it recently, but I'd have thought worth a go to see whether it works.

I have mine working with all the emulators. Make sure you enable a
"Alternate control" or whatever.
Edit : the setting is actually "use input method"
Edit 2: i use wiimote controller by ccp
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Salpula said:
I have mine working with all the emulators. Make sure you enable a
"Alternate control" or whatever.
Edit : the setting is actually "use input method"
Edit 2: i use wiimote controller by ccp
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This...if you don't check that box it wont work, even if you set the mappings.
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Some other users are reporting great success with this controller. Any updates? If not, wanna sell it to me

Bumped with new info

Just got my Datel and I'm at work so I've only tested it with SNESoid and N64oid but it's working well. I was using Rwiimote for the wiimote but the Datel doesn't seem to like this. Quickly downloaded Wiimote Controller and configured and was impressing my co-workers with Super Mario Kart. Lovely.

I wish the controller werent so expensive...and RARE, not even amazon has them, the hell. I'll probably stick with my wiimote/classic controller pro combo, at least for a month or so. Isnt onlive supposed to be releasing a controller for the ipad and android?

Ouch, $40? I paid$23 on ebay.
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patass said:
I wish the controller werent so expensive...and RARE, not even amazon has them, the hell. I'll probably stick with my wiimote/classic controller pro combo, at least for a month or so. Isnt onlive supposed to be releasing a controller for the ipad and android?
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Here you have one for sale. Bought this one and it arrived today, took 4 days to Sweden
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Datel-Wireless-Retro-Controller-Wii/dp/B002BA5FAC/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&qid=1301071596&sr=8-23

Amazon UK doesnt ship to the states, and after conversion and shipping it would end up being the same price or more

I ordered mine from here, price is pretty good. I believe they deliver internationally.
http://www.gameseek.co.uk/pd/NintendoWiigp47epbpy/Datel_Wii_Wireless_Retro_Controller

Just got one a few days ago works flawless, great build quality and is completely wireless. Highly recommend this to anyone its a great product

i'll probably look for one while im in new york next weekend

delete this comment please.

hi all,
I just bought a datel wireless retro controller and played for a while with FPse and GameBoid. I found that it is really hard to execute top-left, top-right, bottom left and bottom-right these 4 directions by using the control pad. Does anyone have the same experience?
I don't have much experience on game issues, so i don't know if that is normal or not. Thanks for help.

ICS & Game controllers

Been keen for USB/bluetooth controller support (i.e. 360/dualshock) for ages, and I seem to remember it being suggested that ICS would include this feature - but I don't seem to have seen it mentioned since the unveiling.
Is this still likely to happen on non tablets? phonejoy doesn't really do it for me as I don't particularly want another controller knocking about just for my phone...

There's an app on the market called Sixaxis. Assuming you're rooted, give Sixaxis Compatibility Checker a try and see if it works with your rom/kernal.
Unfortunately, if you're running a stock rom it won't work. (Unless it's changed since the last time I tried)

hobjob said:
There's an app on the market called Sixaxis. Assuming you're rooted, give Sixaxis Compatibility Checker a try and see if it works with your rom/kernal.
Unfortunately, if you're running a stock rom it won't work. (Unless it's changed since the last time I tried)
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Thanks, but as I understand it you lose it tv out, plus I'd rather stay on stock...
That being said I've just tried the compatibility checker and it suggests that my phone with stock and Siyah is supported BUT I don't have a dualshock to confirm it works? Would it work?

http://pocketnow.com/android/ice-cream-sandwich-to-support-usb-game-controllers

hobjob said:
There's an app on the market called Sixaxis. Assuming you're rooted, give Sixaxis Compatibility Checker a try and see if it works with your rom/kernal.
Unfortunately, if you're running a stock rom it won't work. (Unless it's changed since the last time I tried)
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Actually its working now. I am running XXKI3 rooted with CF-ROOT, but I believe this is not important (older stock should work too). Recently the developer of Sixaxis Controler updated its version, and now its working on S2.
Ofcourse i recommend to try first Sixaxis Compatibility Checker, before buying Sixaxis Controller app.
For now i'm enjoying Tiger Arcade + PS Dualshock 3 pad
The only downside so far.. it does not support more than one pads simultaneously. So no multilayer.

the_powerhead said:
Actually its working now. I am running XXKI3 rooted with CF-ROOT, but I believe this is not important (older stock should work too). Recently the developer of Sixaxis Controler updated its version, and now its working on S2.
Ofcourse i recommend to try first Sixaxis Compatibility Checker, before buying Sixaxis Controller app.
For now i'm enjoying Tiger Arcade + PS Dualshock 3 pad
The only downside so far.. it does not support more than one pads simultaneously. So no multilayer.
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Brilliant news, was surprised when I apparently passed the compatibility check, will have to give this a try...

-Neos- said:
Hi guys,
It's time for a new update...
Just checked the new version of "Sixaxis Controller". The SGS2 is now supported!
So now it works with a stock based ROM + TV Out! I tried it on a Criskelo ROM with the Siyah Kernel. It works fine!
To pair the controller with the SGS2, just follow the instructions listed here:
dancingpixelstudios. com/sixaxiscontroller/instructions.html
To activate the buttons of the Dualshock in FPse you should first disable the touchscreen buttons and set new hardware buttons. F.e. press "Start" hardware button while the optional field is on "DOWN", then press down (by the steering cross or the analog stick) the proceeding with the other buttons is the same..
here i've done a short video to proof the stuff.
youtube. com/watch?v=GpzGHHD-UBM
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jap. tested it a few days ago too. its working perfectly and you're able to use a MHL adapter to play on a tv via hdmi.

[Update: New guide for Shadowgun too] PS3 controllers + Galaxy S II (stock ROMs)

[Update]
New video now that I found the guide at Android central about how to use a PS3 controller with Shadowgun - and of course a guide
Hi everyone, thought this might interest a few others here:
Pairing is via the Sixaxis Controller app ($2 on the Market), and there is a guide on pairing here (I made one since the Sixaxis Controller's homepage guide is not very user friendly). Root is required.

Thanks dude.. now I can play flash games on it.
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Thanks, might have to give it a try.

Thanks for the info dude.
But I can't think on any game that I could use a sixaxis for...

Shadowgun? Emulators?

PS3 controllers can be used with Shadowgun now too (initially they don't work via bluetooth except for movement):

Can anyone confirm the analog sticks work AS analog sticks? My only gripe with some of these controller apps (bluezime, wiimotecontroller, sixaxis controller) is they currently lack any "true analog" stick support. I certainly can't blame the developers, as they're using the framework they've been given (which in gingerbread is ONLY mapping to keyboard keys), it's still a bit of a pain and something that keeps me from using these controllers as often as I'd like. Even Mario64 requires fine analog control, not the typical "all or nothing" that occurs, even while using the analog stick, as it is converted into digital as a keypress.
If this app "Shadowgun" actually operates as analog (you move the stick a little you tiptoe, move it a lot you run) then I'd love to try it. Otherwise I believe we'll have to wait for ICS for that feature (I believe honeycomb had true analog support as well).

I know the Phonejoy one works full analog, however it took a while for the apps / emulators to be able to recognize the analog inputs (working now).
Most of these require roms that do not support MHL however, meaning if you wanted to connect to your big screen TV and play, you cant. (unless it changed recently)
Also, many only support single player (Like the phonejoy) so you can either have several people playing on your phone screen or one person playing on a big screen.

Bluetooth Gamepad

Hey guys,
I'm searching for a bluetooth or wireless gamepad for my future nexus.
Do you have any ideeas? I was almost into buying Wii Wireless Retro Controller but I can't find it anywhere so I'm looking for something else. Ohhh, this was my first option because is so COOL!
Another option could be Phonejoy's Gamepad, wich is OUT OF STOCK too. I could go for a PS3 SIXAXIS Gamepad, but I dont know if I can use it for other games like Shadowgun, Backstab, Dungeon Defenders (mostly RPG and FPS), not only with PSX Emulator.
Anyone who used a PS3 controller played games like the one above with it?
Thanks!

Just a word of warning you need to make sure your device is compatible. Even if it is, it might work with some app and not another.
There are some bluetooth controller to consider though like: Zeemote, MSI Gamepad, Wii controller (which seems to be the safe bet.)
Sometime you need to run a background 'keyboard' app to make some of these controller work, such as Bluez IME.
I have the iControlPad, but it only work with apps that support keyboard input, through the use of Bluez IME. The most fullproof way for me is still wired controller.

I'm dealing with the issue right now.
I use sixaxis for my PS3 controller but it seems there is lack of supported games.
I think trying FPse for it.
I've also Logitech gamepad (F710) and like you I'd love to see supported games beside FPse.
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idan_mo said:
I'm dealing with the issue right now.
I use sixaxis for my PS3 controller but it seems there is lack of supported games.
I think trying FPse for it.
I've also Logitech gamepad (F710) and like you I'd love to see supported games beside FPse.
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Give me a few days and this should become a reality with the Sixaxis controller

Honeycomb and ICS have native support for gamepads so they should work throughout the OS and games.
I have a PS3 controller on my Transformer and I also have the Wii Retro controller. The Retro controller sucks horribly compared to the PS3 controller. Plus they all connect via Bluetooth so any controller will act the same unless it comes with a specific binding app.
I don't have a Nexus but I think the PS3 controller is the way to go. I picked up a new white one at Gamestop for $29.
Datel makes the Retro wireless controller.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

I've done it.
Sixaxis with PS3 controller plus MHL to see it on my LCD TV.
Works great! But only in emulators like FPse (the emulator I've test).
I'll wait to the OTG cable and see if I can play with the gamepad on any game (which is not related to FPse).

do i need ROOT for all of this that you guys are talking about? i want to use the original ps3 controller to play games in my galaxy nexus but i totally don't want to root, please help, i don't care if i have to use cable or Bluetooth.

Not sure if this would work on phones, http://steelseries.com/us/products/other/steelseries-ion-wireless-controller
it does mentions tablets. it's coming soon.

Gamepads for the note, remapping keys without root?

Hi
I've been toying with the idea of using the note as amongst other things a sort of game tab.
With that said, I've been researching around the web and found a plethora of gampads both usb and BT.
Now the one thing that seems to be an issue is game support and remapping of keys.Also in alot of cases ( samsung gamepad!!! ) you also have to repurchase the games either from playstore or from developer xxxxxx market .
I've tested a few , amongst them steelseries free, but there is always something missing.
For example I love the size and feel of the steelseries, but the game support is so so, and even games that it does support have missing features/ functions. Best example GTA 3 + steelseries free = no button for horn in the game ( a few missions actually need that)
Now I've considered getting a ps3 controller, but I'm not planing to root my unit anytime soon ( unless the whole knox issue is sorted), but then I'm left with the question is there a way to remap key without root?
Or for that mater are there any other controllers that would allow that without root??
Anyone?

Check out the Nyko Playpad. I BELIEVE with the Nyko Playground app you might be able to do the reconfiguration to your liking.
My review of the pad is here: http://reviews.greenrobotgamer.com/game-review/nyko-playpad-pro-controller/

Can anyone confirm the remapping of nyko is possible without root??

Anyone have anything to add to this?

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Anyone have anything to add to this?
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Try a wired ps3 pad with sixassix or however its spelt its not to problematic but unsure if you can remap without root but I'm sure that will be your best bet its quite easy to remap and build touch profiles just search YouTube and you will be well away

I have a moga controller and use the universal moga driver app. It allows me to use the controller as a virtual keypad (gamepad mode requires root) and it works just fine for my PSOne and SNES games.

I'd also recommend the moga pro. Best gamepad out there. Official and unofficial driver app, for gamepad or keyboard input and complete 360 style layout. Also very nice attachment for smartphones and works with alot of games out of the box and all emulators i tried have a profile for it. Epsxe for example even with analog support.

clouds5 said:
I'd also recommend the moga pro. Best gamepad out there. Official and unofficial driver app, for gamepad or keyboard input and complete 360 style layout. Also very nice attachment for smartphones and works with alot of games out of the box and all emulators i tried have a profile for it. Epsxe for example even with analog support.
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Can you confirm key remapping and " touchscreen "support ?

DeBoX said:
Can you confirm key remapping and " touchscreen "support ?
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Hm not sure if I understand correctly what you mean so I'll try
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.obsidianx.android.mogaime
with this app you can use the gamepad in "keyboard mode" meaning you can map any button on the gamepad to any "key" possible on the android keyboard. In this mode all keys are digital buttons though including the analog sticks, because that's the way keyboards work. This works without root.
The app has a gamepad mode which enables full analog support for the sticks but that requires root.
-->BUT there is an official moga app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bda.pivot.mogapgp) which also has two modes which you can switch to with the controller itself. There is a "moga" mode (green light) and a standard HID gamepad mode (orange light). With those two modes you're able to basically play every android game that has built in gamepad support, including full analog sticks. And both the ps1 emulator i use (epsxe) and the N64 emu (Mupen64) work with one of those modes out of the box. I don't even have the universal driver installed anymore because it is not needed in most cases.
Now to your other thing, I believe you mean mapping touchscreen input to the buttons? Bad news: There is no app or controller that allows you to do that without root. As far as I know at least, and I was following the development of those apps quite closely, even worked as a beta tester for this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.poke64738.usbjoygold

Just the info I was looking for
While on the subject, does the sixaxis app work without root? Might be able to get my hands on a ps3 controller.
Strongly considering moga at this point.
btw any experience with the moga pocket or hero (small one) ??

DeBoX said:
Just the info I was looking for
While on the subject, does the sixaxis app work without root? Might be able to get my hands on a ps3 controller.
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Sixaxis and a PS3 controller work very well, have touchscreen support and allow remapping but you have to be rooted. I have used Sixaxis on my Xoom and S4 (both of which are rooted) but thanks to Samsung and their stupid Knox nonsense, I cannot use Sixaxis on my Note.

I figured that you need root to get touchscreen part working, but do you need root for the rest ( on the sixaxis app) ie will it work at all without root?
Not keen on shelling out 25$ and realising that I might as well bought a moga hero or pocket for a 10 or so more that would to the job just as well.

btw any thoughts on nyko playpad vs moga hero or pocket?

DeBoX said:
I figured that you need root to get touchscreen part working, but do you need root for the rest ( on the sixaxis app) ie will it work at all without root?
Not keen on shelling out 25$ and realising that I might as well bought a moga hero or pocket for a 10 or so more that would to the job just as well.
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Just read the description of the app on play store. The first line under important says Root required. So yes it needs root. And I'm sure you'll find reviews of those controllers on YouTube.

You can connect a ps3 controller to a android wireless but you will need root privileges. An OTG Cable Could be used to connect the controll with a wire and without root.