[Q] Telus Samsung Galaxy S2X root and ota updates - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989

I bought this phone unlocked and to my surprise it also came rooted. I was just wondering if when the phone is rooted, would I still be able to recieve and download ota updates or does telus block updates because of root?
Also, Ive seen all the topics on how to unroot, but I dont really know which method is the easiest. Can anyone recommend the easiest method from their point of view?
Thanks in advance!

Depends on how the phone was rooted. If it was rooted via some exploit without flashing the entire ROM, it's okay. Generally as long as you have stock ROM and stock recovery you will get OTA. But if it was rooted via flashing a new ROM, then no.
You can always flash back to everything stock anyways.

Ahh i see. Well.. I really don't know how the person who owned it before me rooted it and im a noob at flashing. But here are some details.
Baseband Version: T989DTLKJ3
Kernel: 2.6.35.11
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.TLKJ3
Everything looks like stock to me

I just checked out my stock, 2 week old s2x details and they match that of your phone. I dont think you should have anything to worry about.

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[Q] Galaxy S3 Unknown ROM

Hi everyone, new android user here! I'll try to make this as brief as possible:
Recently purchased a used Unlocked Galaxy S3.
Currently using Bell Carrier on it and it works fine.
I noticed that even after restoring SuperSU was installed.
Checked download mode -> odin installed with custom binary
Checked to see if the phone has root access -> it does not
I wanted to try and flash it with a official ROM to completely restore factory settings but I don't know what the original carrier is so I don't know what ROM to download. I called a couple carriers but they have no record of the IMEI.
I'm fairly new to android and my past two days of google searching hasn't accomplished anything relative to my problem (although I know a lot more about the rooting community!) so I thought I'd ask here.
Is there any way to know what's going on here?
Can I restore the phone to factory firmware/ROM/etc.?
Here is some phone information:
Model: SGH-I747M
Android Version: 4.1.1
Baseband: I747MVLDLK4
Kernel: 3.0.31-538866
Build Number: JRO03L.I747MVLDLK4
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Just go and download this program http://www.samsung.com/ca/support/usefulsoftware/KIES/JSP
Go to Tools > Firmware Install and Initialization
It will ask you for your model number and Serial number. It will use those to determine what stock ROM is correct for your phone.
It will then flash you to stock, just as Odin would, including the stock recovery.
theXact said:
Hi everyone, new android user here! I'll try to make this as brief as possible:
Recently purchased a used Unlocked Galaxy S3.
Currently using Bell Carrier on it and it works fine.
I noticed that even after restoring SuperSU was installed.
Checked download mode -> odin installed with custom binary
Checked to see if the phone has root access -> it does not
I wanted to try and flash it with a official ROM to completely restore factory settings but I don't know what the original carrier is so I don't know what ROM to download. I called a couple carriers but they have no record of the IMEI.
I'm fairly new to android and my past two days of google searching hasn't accomplished anything relative to my problem (although I know a lot more about the rooting community!) so I thought I'd ask here.
Is there any way to know what's going on here?
Can I restore the phone to factory firmware/ROM/etc.?
Here is some phone information:
Model: SGH-I747M
Android Version: 4.1.1
Baseband: I747MVLDLK4
Kernel: 3.0.31-538866
Build Number: JRO03L.I747MVLDLK4
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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It definitely looks like you are on the stock Jelly Bean firmware from Samsung. I747M is the Canadian model (747 is ATT). Your build number also looks to be the stock 4.1.1 based on the DLK4 build number! Just as the last guy said, grab kies or use Odin to go back to complete stock if you are not happy with what you have now. If your phone is showing custom binary flashes and you want to get rid of that, give Triangle Away a try! Good luck. :good:
Lumixz said:
Just go and download this program *link removed since I'm a newbie*
Go to Tools > Firmware Install and Initialization
It will ask you for your model number and Serial number. It will use those to determine what stock ROM is correct for your phone.
It will then flash you to stock, just as Odin would, including the stock recovery.
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Thank you! That worked like a charm! The device is now in a "normal" state and the binaries are "official".
BAM1789 said:
]It definitely looks like you are on the stock Jelly Bean firmware from Samsung. I747M is the Canadian model (747 is ATT). Your build number also looks to be the stock 4.1.1 based on the DLK4 build number! Just as the last guy said, grab kies or use Odin to go back to complete stock if you are not happy with what you have now. If your phone is showing custom binary flashes and you want to get rid of that, give Triangle Away a try! Good luck.
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Thanks for the advice! I'm not too concerned about the flash count, that's only really important your warranty to to be valid, right? But I'll look into it, it may be worth it anyway.
Thanks again everyone!

I747MVLUEND2 for d2can

Just got this small update for koodo i747m. Anyone know what is in it? Sammobile also has the full file already.
k29er said:
Just got this small update for koodo i747m. Anyone know what is in it? Sammobile also has the full file already.
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That is odd, Telus has it too and Koodo is just Telus' subbrand. 4.4 Kitkat is supposed to be just around the corner and yet they pushed this 4.3 update (according to Sammobiles firmware page) seems like a waste if 4.4 is only weeks or a month away to be pushing any 4.3 updates.
Wonder if this is a bug fix until KitKat is out, as 4.3 is aweful and full of issues on the Canadian S3 atm.
I'm downloading the full firmware now to take a look but its a slow download, got an hour to wait >_<
How big was your OTA update?
dbzgod said:
That is odd, Telus has it too and Koodo is just Telus' subbrand. 4.4 Kitkat is supposed to be just around the corner and yet they pushed this 4.3 update (according to Sammobiles firmware page) seems like a waste if 4.4 is only weeks or a month away to be pushing any 4.3 updates.
Wonder if this is a bug fix until KitKat is out, as 4.3 is aweful and full of issues on the Canadian S3 atm.
I'm downloading the full firmware now to take a look but its a slow download, got an hour to wait >_<
How big was your OTA update?
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38MB?
I have been on custom ROMs since 4.3 came out. Just odined
back to stock 4.3 today to be ready for 4.4 and suddenly its updating. I thought it was 4.4 till I notice it downloaded in less than two minutes.
And it auto updated with the Knox warranty bit tripped.
k29er said:
38MB?
I have been on custom ROMs since 4.3 came out. Just odined
back to stock 4.3 today to be ready for 4.4 and suddenly its updating. I thought it was 4.4 till I notice it downloaded in less than two minutes.
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I opened up the ROM and took a look around and it seems to be only a bug fix/Updated build of 4.3 is all, but it is only for Telus, Koodo & PC mobile, since Telus acquired it not too long ago.
The acquisition might be the reasons why this 4.3 update got pushed to begin with to accommodate as it was Telus simply needed to have a 4.3 piece of software made for that propose.
I haven't tested the rom since it does not contain the CSC for Bell or Rogers and I only have access to my mothers S3 (something I wish not to mess up since its a Bell S3)
It's possible that the other carriers might have this out too but I don't see any reason for it since KitKat supposedly is to be released this month for all Canadian S3's.
A read out of the the additional CSC included in this is in fact SPC (PC Mobile):
?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
<CustomerData>
<GeneralInfo>
<CSCEdition>ED007</CSCEdition>
<Country>Canada</Country>
<CountryISO>CA</CountryISO>
<Region>NA</Region>
<SalesCode>SPC</SalesCode>
<NbNetworkInfo>3</NbNetworkInfo>
<NetworkInfo>
<MCCMNC>302220</MCCMNC>
<NetworkName>PC mobile</NetworkName>
<SubsetCode>80</SubsetCode>
</NetworkInfo>
<NetworkInfo>
<MCCMNC>21407</MCCMNC>
<NetworkName>PC mobile</NetworkName>
<SubsetCode>80</SubsetCode>
</NetworkInfo>
<NetworkInfo>
<MCCMNC>302221</MCCMNC>
<NetworkName>PC mobile</NetworkName>
<SubsetCode>80</SubsetCode>
</NetworkInfo>
</GeneralInfo>
<Settings>
Is the build number for that update really is I747MVLUEND2 ?
petenatas said:
Is the build number for that update really is I747MVLUEND2 ?
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Yes, the main reasons to this update is just a addition for PC mobile that Telus acquired, but also probably the new roaming agreement between Telus and Verizon too most likely:
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/05/05...ting-minor-update-that-adds-roaming-on-telus/
At any rate, don't worry about this small patch. KitKat should be here within this month. (I hope they don't delay it anymore)
can anyone put update I747MVLUEND2 for telus because i have rooted phone and l have loosed my OTA ,,?? thanks !!!
Guys, I have a question:
I got a Koodo GS3, updated tp 4.3 I747MVLUEND2. I tried to root this thing with CF Auto Root, as it was mentioned online. No good, couldn't root, and when I looked into the download mode, it shows custom binary and custom system status.
Is that safe to flash back to I747MVLUEMK5 cause I saw the post has the rom for this firmware with/without KNOX. If yes, can I flash the one without KNOX? (My phone got KNOX trip and now it shows warranty bit:1)
todj09 said:
Guys, I have a question:
I got a Koodo GS3, updated tp 4.3 I747MVLUEND2. I tried to root this thing with CF Auto Root, as it was mentioned online. No good, couldn't root, and when I looked into the download mode, it shows custom binary and custom system status.
Is that safe to flash back to I747MVLUEMK5 cause I saw the post has the rom for this firmware with/without KNOX. If yes, can I flash the one without KNOX? (My phone got KNOX trip and now it shows warranty bit:1)
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Since the Knox warranty bit is now 1, that means the warranty has been manufacturer's has been voided. Not a big deal if the warranty on your phone is over.
Now that your phone has the 4.3 bootloader, you cannot flash any ROM via Odin, TWRP, or CWM that attempts to downgrade the bootloader. Attempts to downgrade could brick your phone.
You may be able to flash back to mk5 using Mobile Odin.
audit13 said:
Since the Knox warranty bit is now 1, that means the warranty has been manufacturer's has been voided. Not a big deal if the warranty on your phone is over.
Now that your phone has the 4.3 bootloader, you cannot flash any ROM via Odin, TWRP, or CWM that attempts to downgrade the bootloader. Attempts to downgrade could brick your phone.
You may be able to flash back to mk5 using Mobile Odin.
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Thank you for the advice. Wonder if I could use the Telus rooted rom with KNOX removed, which is I747MVLUEMK5 I found in the forum for my Koodo GS3.
did it work? I am in the same boat. Roms don't recognize this crazy bootloader and a lot won't install on it.
todj09 said:
Thank you for the advice. Wonder if I could use the Telus rooted rom with KNOX removed, which is I747MVLUEMK5 I found in the forum for my Koodo GS3.
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As I understand it, that is a 4.4.x loader while the telus loader we have is for 4.3. Does that mean that it won't brick the phone to update because it is to a higher version? Since the bootloaders actually came out around the same time I am not sure what constitutes an upgrade/downgrade. Sigh, why did they make this so troublesome!? I actually tried flashing I747MVLUEMK5 from recovery but it won't allow it because the downgrade safeguard doesn't recognize this firmware. I am tempted to find an odin file and flash via that but the warning scared me and I'm not sure if it will brick. Could someone chime in on if this is safe and if it is, where to find the odin files? Is it possible to flash a recovery zip via odin? I don't think so.

[Q] Need safe upgrade path from CleanROM 5.0.0

I have an unlocked AT&T Note II that I purchased from Swappa, so I did not do any of the modifications myself. I've been happy with the phone, it's stable, battery life is good and about the only thing that doesn't work is video out. Which is why I want to update the phone. I haven't played with Android in years and this is my main phone, so I need to proceed carefully.
I'm on Straight Talk, so I also need to make sure I keep my phone unlocked as well as rooted.
What would be the safest path to a newer ROM or rooted-stock firmware that has video out working, as well as the main phone functions, like AT&T LTE, stock camera, etc. ? Also, the Device status says "Modified", so I don't know how that affects any potential updates.
Current:
Android version: 4.1.2
Baseband version: I317UCAMH3
Kernel version: 3.0.31-1071214
Build number: CleanROM 5.0.0
ClockworkMod recovery installed, version 6, I think.
Edited: I finally got some useful hits by searching for MHL/HDMI/tv out but still digesting them...
You could install and run triangle away. After that, you could flash back to stock using Odin and stock AT&T firmware from Sammobile.com.

[Q] A little guidance for a galaxy newbie

Hello,
I just bought my first Galaxy device (had a CDMA LG for a while, and I have a Nexus Tablet), and I am looking at how to get this new phone set up right. I bought my i747 retail, so I was unable to unlock it. However, now I'm struggling with finding the right method for upgrading, rooting, etc. I know nothing about knox or any of these Samsung intricacies. Could someone please give me a little guidance on how to go about getting to the OS and status that I'm looking for? This is what I've done so far:
Came unrooted with 4.1.2 stock rom
Unlocked using legit unlock code
Tried OTA updates, but none were available (must be because of unlock)
Rooted w/ ODIN using 4.1.1 file based of MrRobinson method. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426)
Now I keep getting popups like process. ... .acore,media, etc. stopped.
I'm looking to ideally get a custom recovery (either CWM or TWRP, whichever is better) and either kitkat Touchwiz or possibly kitkat nexus stock (I read somewhere that it was possible). Also, i just bought it, and have the code still, so I don't mind deleting everything if needed. Regardless, I'd like the ability to get it back to pure stock with no flash counter (I have a manufacturer's warranty I want to use if need be).
Could someone please just give me a little guidance? I'm pretty capable with rooting, etc., so you'd only need to lead me to other threads, etc. that will take me where I want to go. Thank you very much.
Before flashing or doing anything else, confirm the bootloader on your phone. Download and install the Samsung Phone Info app from the playstore and post your bootloader.
audit13 said:
Before flashing or doing anything else, confirm the bootloader on your phone. Download and install the Samsung Phone Info app from the playstore and post your bootloader.
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Well, the bad news is I already flashed using MrRobinson's instructions, and now my phone is barely workable, as things like process.android.media and Touchwiz keep crashing. I was able to install the info app though, and my bootloader is listed as I747UCDLK3. Thanks again though, and let me know what else you need from me.
I recommend starting over by flashing the stock AT&T 4.1.1 firmware from sammobile. Once flashed, boot the phone and make sure your phone is sim unlocked. If it isn't sim unlocked, unlock it using the free method or your unlock code.
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SGH-I747/
After sim unlocking, run OTA updates until you have the latest stock AT&T ROM on your phone. Upgrading the phone's bootloader and modem is the easiest way to do it for someone that is new to the phone and custom ROMs.
audit13 said:
I recommend starting over by flashing the stock AT&T 4.1.1 firmware from sammobile. Once flashed, boot the phone and make sure your phone is sim unlocked. If it isn't sim unlocked, unlock it using the free method or your unlock code.
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SGH-I747/
After sim unlocking, run OTA updates until you have the latest stock AT&T ROM on your phone. Upgrading the phone's bootloader and modem is the easiest way to do it for someone that is new to the phone and custom ROMs.
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Thank you, but wouldn't OTA updates install Knox, which would basically void my warranty if I tried to flash anything after that? And, I've checked for OTA updates twice, once on 4.1.2 and on 4.1.1, and both times it said my software was up to date.
I spoke with StoneyJSG about my situation, and he suggested that I go to stock 4.1, root w/ saferoot, then flash a kitkat custom rom without Knox through TWRP. That way, I could use triangle away and flash stock unrooted if I needed to send it in.
Although, I'm not sure if I should do that, as I thought I read that you need to update the radio and bootloader first before you can install a custom kitkat rom from jelly bean, but I'm still not entirely sure how that works.
The most recent release of many custom ROMs will not work but you may not have a signal without an updated modem and you should not be running updated modems on an older bootloader. Doing this could brick your phone.
With a rooted system, OTA updates will not work.
Thank you again for helping walk me through the minutia around this phone.
I think I have a much better understanding of everything now. I read the following article on Knox (http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/) and with an understanding of that, I get now that there is no way to load any custom rom on 4.3 or higher without losing my warranty.
So, basically my options are to stay at 4.1 and flash whatever, using triangle away to erase my tracks. Or, I could update to 4.3, but only be able to use saferoot/towelroot, otherwise I'd trip the warranty void. But, if all I did use was towelroot (no custom recovery or rom), then I could just unroot the phone using the full unroot option in SuperSU and send it on in for service if needed, right?
Also, I did unroot my phone and did a factory reset, so it's back at 4.1.1 and unrooted. Yet, I still do not see any software updates available from Samsung. I even plugged it into Kies, and nothing (http://i.imgur.com/E0xPGpf.png). Does anyone know why this could be? Does it have something to do with my not having a carrier for the phone yet? I'm sorry for all the questions, but I do appreciate your help.
jateed said:
Thank you again for helping walk me through the minutia around this phone.
I think I have a much better understanding of everything now. I read the following article on Knox (http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/) and with an understanding of that, I get now that there is no way to load any custom rom on 4.3 or higher without losing my warranty.
So, basically my options are to stay at 4.1 and flash whatever, using triangle away to erase my tracks. Or, I could update to 4.3, but only be able to use saferoot/towelroot, otherwise I'd trip the warranty void. But, if all I did use was towelroot (no custom recovery or rom), then I could just unroot the phone using the full unroot option in SuperSU and send it on in for service if needed, right?
Also, I did unroot my phone and did a factory reset, so it's back at 4.1.1 and unrooted. Yet, I still do not see any software updates available from Samsung. I even plugged it into Kies, and nothing (http://i.imgur.com/E0xPGpf.png). Does anyone know why this could be? Does it have something to do with my not having a carrier for the phone yet? I'm sorry for all the questions, but I do appreciate your help.
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What is your cell service? If not AT&T, you will never get OTA.
Whether you get OTA can vary from carrier to carrier and phone to phone in my opinion.
I have a Rogers HTC One X that gets OTA updates from HTC even though I am on the Bell network.
I have a Bell S3 that is running on the Rogers network and it receives OTA updates from Bell even though it has a Rogers sim card in the phone.
I have a Telus Moto G running on the Bell network and it received the Telus KK OTA update while connected to the Bell network.
audit13 said:
Whether you get OTA can vary from carrier to carrier and phone to phone in my opinion.
I have a Rogers HTC One X that gets OTA updates from HTC even though I am on the Bell network.
I have a Bell S3 that is running on the Rogers network and it receives OTA updates from Bell even though it has a Rogers sim card in the phone.
I have a Telus Moto G running on the Bell network and it received the Telus KK OTA update while connected to the Bell network.
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Well, I have an AT&T model which I unlocked and will be putting on Cricket at the end of the week (when my plan month is set to end). Right now there's no SIM in it, and I've been doing everything over wifi. I looked up whether the carrier had something to do with the OTAs, and I was told that Samsung sent the updates out, not AT&T, so I figured that the carrier info was irrelevant. I now wonder what my options are.
Can I manually flash 4.3 stock without tripping the knox warranty void?
Does Towelroot/Xposed framework trip the Knox void flag?
If I can update to 4.3/4.4 and root without tripping the knox flag, I might just manually update and just run towelroot and xposed to modify my OS the best I can until my warranty runs out.
If I can't root it at all once I'm on 4.3+, then I'll just sit on 4.1.1 for a few months until I can't stand it anymore and just void the warranty anyway.
Thanks again everyone. This whole knox/binary counter thing is not something I dealt with on my CDMA LG or Nexus, so I was totally in the dark about how it all worked. This is also my first GSM phone, so all those intricacies are new to me too. Once I know about manually flashing stock and running towelroot/xposed, I think I'll be in good shape.
Flashing the stock 4.3 ROM should not trip the counter as long as you do not need to install a custom recovery to flash it.
Apparently, the latest KK stock ROM cannot be rooted using Towelroot.
If you want a custom ROM, use one that will work with a 4.1.1 bootloader and modem. Once on 4.3 or higher, it's a little harder to recover from a soft brick.
audit13 said:
Flashing the stock 4.3 ROM should not trip the counter as long as you do not need to install a custom recovery to flash it.
Apparently, the latest KK stock ROM cannot be rooted using Towelroot.
If you want a custom ROM, use one that will work with a 4.1.1 bootloader and modem. Once on 4.3 or higher, it's a little harder to recover from a soft brick.
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Excellent. If I did flash stock, i would just use ODIN, then factory reset to wipe the caches. And that's good to know about the KK rom, as I would probably update straight to 4.4 if at all (I've read a lot of bad things about 4.3 on the S3), but not if it means I cannot root safely and cleanly.
I'll check out the custom roms for 4.1.1. I know that flashing the rom and/or a custom recovery will trip the binary counter, but I can just use triangle away to clean that up. Do you know if there is a list of custom 4.1.1/4.1.2 roms somewhere, or do I need to scour the older threads here?
Thank you very much audit13 (thanks to StoneyJSG and pre4speed as well). You have been immensely helpful and really brought me up to speed on everything surrounding S3 customization. Needless to say it's way more complicated than what I've dealt with from LG and Google/Asus. (I mean, i could root my nexus with a single click using Wugfresh's toolkit)
4.1.1 is the only complete stock ROM that AT&T released for flashing via Odin.
4.3 ROMS and higher were prepared by XDA members for flashing in either a custom recovery or Odin.
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4.1.1 is the only complete stock ROM that AT&T released for flashing via Odin.
4.3 ROMS and higher were prepared by XDA members for flashing in either a custom recovery or Odin.
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Oh, so what other way can you flash a stock rom, if not through ODIN or a custom recovery? Regardless, it seems as though I really should not dive into 4.3+ until I'm ready to concede that my warranty is over. There are just too many potential pitfalls and headaches.
On the lighter side, I've found a few 4.1.2 based custom roms that have some promise. I'm going to post them here in case anyone has opinions on them, or if someone else in my situation sees this thread and wants to go custom 4.1 too:
Hyperdrive RLS16
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2176793
Slim Bean-d2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1865262
Jedi Academy
http://www.teamandroid.com/2013/12/...oid-412-jedi-academy-jelly-bean-custom-rom/2/
Jelly ‘Beans’
http://www.teamandroid.com/2013/04/...ndroid-412-att-galaxy-s3-sgh-i747-custom-rom/
I was also torn when I got my s3 that was running 4.1.2. I downgraded to 4.1.1, sim unlocked the phone, used it on stock 4.1.2 for about a week to make sure everything was working, hardware wise, upgraded to stock 4.4.2, installed a custom recovery and a custom ROM. I wasn't too concerned about the warranty since I got the phone as a free upgrade and had no intention of using the s3 as my daily phone. I kept it as a backup until my niece needed and phone and then it went to her. It's been over a year and there are still no problems with the phone.

[Q] Best way to upgrade US i-467 (AT&T) to 4.4.2

Sorry for the post, but I've looked elsewhere and searched can't seem to find the best, fastest, and easiest way to accomplish this.
1. I have an AT&T GN8.0 (SGH-i467) on 4.1.2. Build CAMF2. I'd like to upgrade to 4.4.2 The device is rooted, with locked bootloader and stock recovery. I also have an AT&T Pay-as-you-go SIM installed.
2. I'd like to end up on 4.4.2 rooted. I have never been offered the 4.4.2 upgrade on my device and I'm not sure if it's because I have a PAYG sim or it's cause I'm rooted.
3. I'm not afraid of Odin, download mode, etc., so if anyone can help me figure out the best way to get myself upgraded, I'd appreciate it. If you want to point out some posts, threads, etc., that can help, that would be great too, but I've scanned all of those and it all just gels together to where I'm not sure what's what anymore.
Thanks.
Don't try to update via OTA with a rooted ROM as it may cause a softbrick. I recommend unrooting and trying to update or flashing a stock ROM from sammobile.com and then try to update to KK.
audit13 said:
Don't try to update via OTA with a rooted ROM as it may cause a softbrick. I recommend unrooting and trying to update or flashing a stock ROM from sammobile.com and then try to update to KK.
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Thanks, that make sense.
Going back to stock shouldn't be a problem, but any thought to if I can update to 4.4.2 with a PAYG SIM? If not, is there a flashable file and method that you can point me to?
It has been my experience with various phones that OTA updates should work regardless of whether a sim is or is not inserted.

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