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Samsung Taylor 7004 ROM

I'm looking for 7004 ROM update for Samsung Taylor (I received version #7003 only). Anyone can share please?

Unfotunately this device (and my LG Panther ) hasn't the public update or firmware (but microsoft has, i saw). Mb you will be more lucky than me, that will be great!

I believe if someone could make a full backup of Taylor with 7004, we'll be able to use that backup as Zune's "restore" option.

i think the device backups are specific to the device, and not universal like a system dump would be...but i could be wrong.

adiliyo said:
i think the device backups are specific to the device, and not universal like a system dump would be...but i could be wrong.
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I don't know, exactly. But I always have a hope - at least we can try... We need only one thing - good guy with ver. 7004 on his Taylor

sensboston said:
I believe if someone could make a full backup of Taylor with 7004, we'll be able to use that backup as Zune's "restore" option.
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That's impossible, cuz backups are binded to the specific device id.

Useless guy said:
That's impossible, cuz backups are binded to the specific device id.
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Could you tell me, how it's bound? If it's only folder name (GUID name), properties.xml and ActiveID.dat files, we can try to replace Data folder only.
BTW, without real data (he-he, no enthusiasts with 7004 at all!) it's useless conversation

All data encrypted there with AES256. Key seems is inside device. I doubt it's same for all devices of same type. It should be generated from HW info.

Has this been found yet? I'm having the same problem sensboston is.

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[minnow for whale]USB Video Out Dev&Dig (Status:success)

We all remember at the MIX10 Joe Belfiore projects his phone onto the big screen. Even on the recent XBOX show he did that again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IA28wRWAI8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCDXaJh4bwE
this kind of video out is through micro-usb, normal type one. You can find Joe is using a Lumia 800 in his hand in the XBOX video.
I asked him through twitter and received an answer of "Special Software build".
I did some research and dig into the register keys. Found something.
This is a special driver that only shared inside the MS and normally won't be out anytime soon.
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----Update on 2012.Feb 9 China Time----
marsrogers said:
Big Step Forward, since the DFT Rom released, the exe can be run in WP7.
One thing I need now is if someone can build an app for me, which calls the changeusbprofile.exe under /windows
Things here is I'm using the Opera mini launcher to call it, but the path is under /application, not under /Windows, and the result is my computer can not detect the phone when the phone reboots. I think this may relates to the path I call.
I'm not a typical tech-man, so I need help here. Thanks!
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----Update on 2012.Feb 9 23:00 China Shanghai Time----
Today I really thank @GoodDayToDie and @ultrashot for helping so many.
@ultrashot sent me a xap app that does the job, calling the changusbprofile.exe in Windows folder. Although result is the same with yesterday, but now I am more sure that we are one more step closer to our destination. I'll wait my new micro usb cables to arrive and then I'll make a second try. Thank you again!!! Can't reach here without you kind people~~~
----Update on 2012.Feb 10 19:22 China Shanghai Time----
I removed the attachments because the project is now on special stage. I will put them back after the feature works, or after I can't make it work. Either way, I will put them back~~~Don't worry.
----Update on 2012.Feb 12 15:22 China Shanghai Time----
Complete failure....
New cable arrived and still my computer can't recognize the phone in usb video out mode...I changed a computer and till the same...
Will think about next steps...if I can't make figure it out next week, I shall put everything at present stage onto here.
----Update on 2012.Feb 14 10:22 China Shanghai Time----
Think it over, and think there is still a hill in front of us. The changeusbprofile.exe seems just to be a toggle, like a shortcut. But the real port of usb video out hasn't been enabled. On my samsung focus, I checked the *#7284# in Diagnosis Mode before and after I ran the changeusbprofile. The thing changes from Zun to Tethering, while it's not the real tethering mode. I think the changeusbprofile is just doing a job like changing usb mode from zune to tethering or to Diag mode. So that's to say, we haven't really seen the iceberg yet. I'll keep finding and hoping that anyone can get any help on this. This may requires me to dig some post in Windows Mobile age, since some parts between the two system are same.
And I contacted the kind secret person, and get the news that the usb cable doesn't really matters. Any short cables should serve the job. So our attention should move back onto the phone again.
----Update on 2012.Feb 15 15:13 China Shanghai Time----
I figured it out~The changeusbprofile changes the value in Registry Local_Machine/Drivers/USB/FunctionDrivers, DefaultClientDriver=CompositeFn to UFN_VIDSTREAM_CLASS. Every value change here points to a folder in FunctionDrivers.
in Samsung Focus, it is like below:
/CompositeFn;
/CompositeFn_QCOM;
/CompositeFn_SAMSUNG;(This is the one when we choose Diag Mode in Diagnosis App *#7284#)
/MtpClientDrvUsb;
/Samsung_USBSER_Modemlink;
/Serial_Class;
/Serial_Class_Diag_Qcom;
/Serial_Class_Nmea_Qcom;
/Serial_Class_Trace_Qcom;
/USBSER_Class;
/USBSER_Modemlink_Qcom;
There is no UFN_VIDSTREAM_CLASS folder here, so that explains why the changeusbprofile works well while it is no use at all...
Next step, I will try looking for the Setting in Asus E600, if I can find someone who has this device. Maybe Samsung Taylor will do the same.
If you can help, don't hesitate~~
----Update on 2012.Mar 3 15:13 China Shanghai Time----
marsrogers said:
Updated some info
I looked into the Key name, UFN_VIDSTREAM_CLASS, which is very unique way to name.
This belongs to a USB function Driver, and the only thing I saw similar is a UFN_PRINTER_CLASS, which is in Wince 6.0
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee483856(v=winembedded.60).aspx
And you may check this
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee485691(v=winembedded.60).aspx
So I'm still waiting for somebody who can offer any help on this. I talked with Mr. Yang Zhongke, who invented RecX prototype, fiinix optimized that, but not the inventor.
His way is not quite efficient and seems can't go further. But he will do some work for this in a foreseeable future.
Any one has a Asus E600, plz contact me, will keep your name secret.
Thanks!~
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----Update on 2012.Mar 6 1:02 China Shanghai Time----
Project suspended, cuz according to a source, WP8 will have Remote desktop support.
"The ability to take screenshots (via Remote Desktop, no less) will be a feature of Windows Phone 8. I don't see anything changing before that."
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"Only that you will be able to remote desktop into the Phone, which should allow you to create videos and/or screenshots from a PC."
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The source is quite trustful, and I have no reason to doubt that.
So just be patient, and it will come. No need for this project to keep going.
At last, use my words in the email I talked with the source.
Me:Really puzzled why MS doesn't release such a cool and convenient feature. Haven't they realized that when people use this feature, they are promoting WP7 for free...(Actually I've promoted in this way for Android as a "side effect" in the company I work in for three months and as a result more than 20 Samsung Galaxy SII were added during this period. Google and Samsung should thank me...)
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---Update on 2012.August 17 14:21 China Shanghai Time---
A very kind man has sent me the 7003 LG Panther ROM, which has the necessary file, and we successfully got them out. But I just lost my sell phone, so it may take some time to buy a new WP7 Samsung focus. Maybe next week. Very close to the final line. God bless us. Cheers.
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Good luck!~
--Update on 2012.August 20 22:37 China Shanghai Time--
I tried to make it work while it still failed. The computer recognised my cellphone as WM7VIDSTREAM while the PC side app still does n't work.
I think this could be related to that the PC side app is for mango and the cellphone side is grabbed from 7003. I uploaded the VSD folder which contains what I think are the everything we need for now.
If anyone wants to build an rom, now it's the time.
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--Update on 2012.August 23 17:42 China Shanghai Time--
One friend, who you will know someday later, gave me a home-make cab which includes the pkg file from Microsoft. Right now it is not for public for now. But it is successful.
Although I started this project, but as it always be, not a technique project but a sociology one. So there are many things and many people's benefit to consider. So just wait for some time, it is there when it is there.
For technique part, the pkg file includes as same as the VSD.rar in the attachment.
Cheers
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--Update on 2012.August 28 19:43 China Shanghai Time--
Check here, you have what you want. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856509
This is a long story, and finally it ended beautifully.
"Always be closing"--Glengarry Glen Ross (1992)
To me? Yeah, this project closed.
Regards,
marsrogers
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Well, I can tell you a little about the thing you found (good investigation, by the way!)
First off, that's a module - it's kind of like a file (and shows up in the filesystem) but is baked into the ROM and can't be opened, much less modified, like a normal file.
There are tools that are supposed to be able to re-assemble modules, such as recmod. I haven't been able to get them to work, but maybe I'm just doing it wrong. In theory, it should be possible to create a "normal" DLL out of the components of a module.
The next trick is getting that rebuilt DLL onto the phone. This can be done pretty easily on Samsung, and is possible on interop-unlocked HTC, but on LG/Toshiba/Fujitsu/Dell/Nokia we don't currently have a way.
After that, you'll need to "install" the driver. Now, there's a registry entry for doing this. The problem is, I only know that the entry is required - I don't know if it's sufficient, or if there's also a database or something that must be updated. In any case, any phone where we can put a file into the Windows folder, we can also do registry editing.
Then there's the thing of actually getting the UI for this feature (the Settings "app" to control it). It's vaguely possible that the retail ROMs include it, but this is doubtful, so you'll probably need to pull it out of that old ROM. It's probably an EXE, so it's unlokely you can make a XAP for it - instead, you'll need to install it into the phone directly, including putting in the registry entried to launch it (this is a guess, I've never tried).
It's worth noting here that it's probably *WAY* easier to just pull that feature out of your old ROM and bake it into a custom ROM. This should be pretty straightforward, however, then it's only useful on custom ROMs, which in turn are only possible on HTC phones (right now).

GoodDayToDie said:
Well, I can tell you a little about the thing you found (good investigation, by the way!)
First off, that's a module - it's kind of like a file ...
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Thanks for your reply. I did something with the recmod, but the dll it packed is only 1kb, apparently it's not useful. I guess it is because there is no imageinfo.bin inside the dll folder. I used some tools recommended by Da_G who started to try modding WP7 on the first day. Like nbsplit.exe to creat a IMGFS.bin, and use xidump to dump it. Just like what they have done before, I got the dll folders as same as I got at the beginning.
You may be right for the part that it's rather easier to build a new rom. There are tools to repack the whole IMGFS from files while I didn't find any good ways to pack a specific folder.
May ask more people all over the world (thx to the internet) cuz I just moved from android. In android, I use cygwin to pack the Odin Tar files, but it's totally different of course.
Anyway, doing this research is just for fun~ All is because MS is moving too slow...not to mention the NFC function I already have for a year on my Nexus S~~
Thank U again!~

This would be awesome good luck

Really a good find! Found that reg entry some time ago but I didn't care about it...Now that you bring up that thing again I also think that this could be very useful (even if you want it just for fun and not for business purposes). But note that the DLL file doesn't have to be in the /windows folder. It could be somewhere different, too.

@-WP7User-: That's an interesting idea, and might enable this to work on LG phones (where we have registry but not filesystem control). The registry value that speicies the path to the driver binary only ever gives the file name (example:
[HKLM\Drivers\Builtin\HTCFileUtility]
Dll="HTCFileUtility.dll")
However, it might work to specify a full path instead of just a relative one (relative to the \Windows folder, one must assume, since that's where the files in question are located).
However, there's still the issue of actually getting the phone to load the driver correctly. Just adding or editing the registry value for Drivers\Builtin didn't work for me - it did something (the driver stopped working when I chancged the value for an existing driver) - I wasn't able to make a user-added DLL work (even a different version of an official driver).

any news on this?

The old Recmod doesn't work on WP7 files. I believe there is a patched version for WP7 floating around XDA somewhere. Have to check my files, could of swore I downloaded it once.
EDIT: Here you go.

I have get the source code for creating the dcTNONE_ANALOGTV.dll, they are .c file and .def file.
My Problem is I don't know how to build them.
And I have got the changeusbmode.exe and the xml file with it. Figuring an idea to put them in.

marsrogers said:
I have get the source code for creating the dcTNONE_ANALOGTV.dll, they are .c file and .def file.
My Problem is I don't know how to build them.
And I have got the changeusbmode.exe and the xml file with it. Figuring an idea to put them in.
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Download the FixRecMod.exe above I posted. Drag the dctNONE_analogtv.dll folder with the "s000 s001 s002 s003 s004" files in it over the exe. Now you'll find the actual DLL file inside the folder. Any problems, just upload the folder & I'll do it for you.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
Download the FixRecMod.exe above I posted. Drag the dctNONE_analogtv.dll folder with the "s000 s001 s002 s003 s004" files in it over the exe. Now you'll find the actual DLL file inside the folder. Any problems, just upload the folder & I'll do it for you.
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I have made the dll successfully. But when I put the dll into the /Windows folder in my Samsung Focus, nothing happened even after a reboot.
And another interesting thing is in WP7 Root Tools, when exploring the /Windows folder, all single file has a "ROM Module" or "ROM File" written blew, but the files I moved in has nothing written under it.
I tried to check the usb mode in diagnosis *#7248#, still there are three options to choose, nothing new.
I personally don't see the future of this project for now.
However, You have done a lot to help, it's very kind of you, thank you so much!

marsrogers said:
I have made the dll successfully. But when I put the dll into the /Windows folder in my Samsung Focus, nothing happened even after a reboot.
And another interesting thing is in WP7 Root Tools, when exploring the /Windows folder, all single file has a "ROM Module" or "ROM File" written blew, but the files I moved in has nothing written under it.
I tried to check the usb mode in diagnosis *#7248#, still there are three options to choose, nothing new.
I personally don't see the future of this project for now.
However, You have done a lot to help, it's very kind of you, thank you so much!
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It wouldn't have ROM FILE/MODULE under it as it wasn't cooked in. You probably need some registry for it to work. Also, try opening the DLL in PEexplorer & checking to see it it has a cert attached.
Example of a DLL/EXE with a cert;

Gonna cook it into my rom and try it out...Do you have an idea which reg entry it could need?
I think of something for the settings page. Because if you haven't got a settings page for it, how can you activate it?
And maybe another entry which points it to the DLL file...?

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Gonna cook it into my rom and try it out...Do you have an idea which reg entry it could need?
I think of something for the settings page. Because if you haven't got a settings page for it, how can you activate it?
And maybe another entry which points it to the DLL file...?
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Next weekend I may upload the dcTNONE_ANALOGTV.dll folder which I found in the leaked ROM for HTC Surround even before the WP7 was officially to public, the source code which is .c and .def for it, which is to remove some limits for QSD8250 CPU, and the changeusbprofile.exe and changeusbprofile.xml from Asus E600 (the only dev phone has the display mirror feather in 7720 for now)someone Mr X, who I am very grateful to gave me.
I ain't major in this level of computing techs, so I think in order to make the project alive, it's better to share what I have to those who has the ability to do it. Let them holding in my hand is a great waste at present stage.
The QSD8250 is a very old cpu, so there should be no problem with NDA.
P.S
There should be a manual installed usb driver on PC and a client application on PC but I don't have them right now. If you have friends or friend's friend who is a dev, holding a e600 dev phone, try ask them to share something, appreciated.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
It wouldn't have ROM FILE/MODULE under it as it wasn't cooked in. You probably need some registry for it to work. Also, try opening the DLL in PEexplorer & checking to see it it has a cert attached.
Example of a DLL/EXE with a cert;
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m240/drkfngthdragnlrd/Untitled-31.png
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I've uploaded all my files so you can make the check yourself.
After all I'm major in management not IT techniques so I don't want to pull the path down.
Thank You for the help you offered!~~~

Thanks for uploading your files. But it seems like I can't find the reg key...
There isn't a single reg entry which points to the uploaded .dll. At least not in the official Mango Update for the HD7.
But if you post the whole entry, I could try to cook the .dll into my rom and see what happens.

-WP7User- said:
Thanks for uploading your files. But it seems like I can't find the reg key...
There isn't a single reg entry which points to the uploaded .dll. At least not in the official Mango Update for the HD7.
But if you post the whole entry, I could try to cook the .dll into my rom and see what happens.
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has this registry something to do With that ? :
Local Machine\Drivers\Display\TV\
PanelDLL=string:"dcTNONE_ANALOGTV.dll"

-WP7User- said:
Thanks for uploading your files. But it seems like I can't find the reg key...
There isn't a single reg entry which points to the uploaded .dll. At least not in the official Mango Update for the HD7.
But if you post the whole entry, I could try to cook the .dll into my rom and see what happens.
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Just like @tessut posted. It's it. And I think you'd better try to build the dcTNONE_ANALOGTV.dll yourself from the source, it should be more reliable than using fixedRecmod. I can't do that cuz there seems to need many head files that do not exist in computer even I have vs2010...
Sent from my SGH-i937 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

Okay, if someone wants to try that, too: The exact reg key (just copy and paste) is
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Display\TV]
"PanelDLL"=string:"dcTNONE_ANALOGTV.dll"
Didn't flash the rom on my device yet, but that's soon going to happen
The dctNONE_analogtv.dll is in the windows folder, the changeusbprofile.exe and .xml are in there, too. I hope it works!
EDIT: Didn't work at all...The ChangeUSBProfile.exe didn't get installed (although I'm 100% sure that it is there and of course in the right folder). Wasn't there a license xml around or something? Because normally a Windows Phone 7 App needs a license file to get installed when starting the phone for the first time. Don't know if this applies to .exe files though.
Has someone got an idea?

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EDIT: Didn't work at all...The ChangeUSBProfile.exe didn't get installed (although I'm 100% sure that it is there and of course in the right folder). Wasn't there a license xml around or something? Because normally a Windows Phone 7 App needs a license file to get installed when starting the phone for the first time. Don't know if this applies to .exe files though.
Has someone got an idea?
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Thanks for the work! Is it possible if we extract the official .cab update file to get a licence and patch it to the exe?
I used a PE Explorer to open the changusbprofile.exe and found a license called"Windows Mobile TCB signing cert" in it.
Another thing is I used a way to open .exe in IE (use IE in WP7 to open this thread and download the usbvideoout.zip and you can have the chance to open changeusbprofile.exe directly) but it failed in Mango. Maybe we should try this in 7004 because this is really an old file. Or we should find a .cab file that contains a exe file in it and this .cab must be announced after mango update.

Tom XAP Author: Change request

(The original thread has too many pages, and would likely go unnoticed.)
We, in Chevron support land, keep receiving the same complaints over and over again re: Tom XAP Installer. Users are attempting to use Tom XAP Installer (v1.2) to deploy interop-required XAPs and they're receiving the misleading error message:
- Please Make sure your phone was unlocked!
- Please Make sure you connected device to PC and Zune lauched
Try again ?
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We'd appreciate if you added code to detect 0x81030120 and show a proper error message. It should say something like:
Your phone is not "interop unlocked", which this XAP requires [...] Check out this thread on XDA for more information.
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Thanks.

Why not just tell people to use the official MS deployment tool?

I always use the Ms original tool , or a private one from one here at xda.

ceesheim said:
I always use the Ms original tool , or a private one from one here at xda.
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which one do you use. Actually those who wants to sideload should have a few xap installer apps in their pc then they will know whether it's the chevron unlock or their installer that has a problem>I know that installer has some pros and cons.

Ttblondey said:
which one do you use. Actually those who wants to sideload should have a few xap installer apps in their pc then they will know whether it's the chevron unlock or their installer that has a problem>I know that installer has some pros and cons.
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I use the MS one and a closed beta from ultrashot (ultrashot one isn't online and maybe never will so don't ask him, if he wants to release he will )
no the problem is @ tom xap sideloader , and I didn't see him here for a long time @ the wp forums

[Q] jailbreak rt 8.1,possible?

still wondering how to jailbreak rt 8.1,seems that cdb no more works..

A jailbreak for 8.1 isn't possible yet.
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hjc4869 said:
still wondering how to jailbreak rt 8.1,seems that cdb no more works..
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*sigh*. Use search, or even just open your eyes and read through the development and hacking section which is basically full of this single statement: "8.1 does not have a jailbreak yet"

SixSixSevenSeven said:
*sigh*. Use search, or even just open your eyes and read through the development and hacking section which is basically full of this single statement: "8.1 does not have a jailbreak yet"
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Making a jailbreak is a complicated task. I'm working on it...
Melissa

surface rt 8.1 jailbreak
Myriachan said:
Making a jailbreak is a complicated task. I'm working on it...
Melissa
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hello my name is mike clery I was wondering any info on a 8.1 jailbreak I really want to install legacy apps on my surface rt so if you can tell me anything its December 26 and still no info on it

Dude. Don't pester the devs. Don't post questions that have already been asked and answered over and over again. Don't, ever, ask for ETAs or similar concerning hacks like this. Leaving aside the simple fact that it's impossible to predict anything of that nature (and thus asking is simply useless and annoying spam), people on here are volunteers doing this stuff in our own time. You are not our boss, to ask for regular status reports or some such thing. It'll be posted when it's ready. No point asking for anything else.
There has been plenty of discussion regarding an 8.1 jailbreak. I get that you're new, but time was, new members of a community had the courtesy to observe, and emulate, the behavior of the older members of the community. At a minimum, check the forum rules... the very first of which is: Search before posting!

cameyo ? work with jailbreakoen surface rt ????
Have you guys heard about cameyo ?????
Its pre pacakge apps taht dont need to be installed to run.
download them and run them, wonder if we be able to use those apps after the RT is jailbroken? any idea ?
search for online . cameyo . com / public - (no spaces)
here is the link to hugh list of apps that can be downloaded as n exe file and run on any PC, offcourse not on rt . i tried. Anyone with a 8.0 surface RT jailbroken devce, wanna try and let us know if they are working ?

MrAsimOnline said:
Have you guys heard about cameyo ?????
Its pre pacakge apps taht dont need to be installed to run.
download them and run them, wonder if we be able to use those apps after the RT is jailbroken? any idea ?
search for online . cameyo . com / public - (no spaces)
here is the link to hugh list of apps that can be downloaded as n exe file and run on any PC, offcourse not on rt . i tried. Anyone with a 8.0 surface RT jailbroken devce, wanna try and let us know if they are working ?
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Nope. Cameyo is for x86 not ARM and would need porting, as it is not open source that is not possible.

Possible alternitve?
Is is possible to just get a developer license on an rt device and then use your own signing certificate to sign some application (like audacity) then import the certificate into the trusted root authority list using certmgr.msc? If that worked then we could get something going that would work with few risk of problems. Also for anyone else who might find this useful, you can download a windows rt debugger and it has a built In kernel debugger (maybe could be used to jailbreak???).

... And we come full circle. @johndc7, thanks for your suggestion but did you really think that wasn't among the very first things we tried?
The requirement isn't that the binaries are signed. It's that they're signed by Microsoft. Your suggestion does actually work if the tablet is in Testsigning mode - which means, basically, treat any trusted signature as if it's a MS signature - but putting the tablet in Testsigning mode requires editing the BCD (Boot Configuration Database) and the SecureBoot feature prevents any modification to the SecureBoot flag in the BCD. We even have tried complex steps like exporting the BCD, enabling Testsigning on it, marking it read-only, and re-importing it. No dice. Feel free to experiment more yourself, though...
Oh, and as for kernel debug, that's definitely another way to disable the signature enforcement... and it's just as unusable as your last suggestion. Secure Boot blocks the Debug flags in the BCD. You don't need any special software to perform kernel debugging of RT - any build of kdb or windbg from the last few years can do it - but you do need to be able to put the tablet in debug mode to begin with. Again, if you find a way to do *that*, then that would be very valuable.

Another idea........
Hopefully this is something that is actually somewhat realistic..... I have been wanting to run audacity (mainly) on windows rt. Does anyone know if it would be possible to recompile it to run full screen in metro? Even though this method isn't really ideal, it would be something to temporally use instead of having nothing until somebody finds a better way of doing it. I understand that it probably wouldn't be able to be released to the windows store but a developer license could be installed to run it.

Well, at a bare minimum, you would need to re-write the entire UI. Metro apps don't (can't) use the standard Windows GUI frameworks, so any graphical app that isn't completely DirectX-based (which is to say, pretty much anything except games and command-line apps) will need to have their interface re-written.
Then there's the issue of things like getting it to work within the sandbox (you can largely work around the API restrictions, but the privileges issue is a problem) and, unless it is already possible to compile it under modern versions of Visual Studio (a lot of open-source software isn't), you would need to fix it for MSVC compatibility too.
Short version: Not practically.

Possible Alternative
I did find a folder on my RT device called "CodeIntegrity". The path is "C:/Windows/System32/CodeIntegrity". It contains drivers and stl files that I assume prevent the use of unsigned exes. Permissions that are not normally granted on the Surface are needed to disable the files, but if we could somehow do it maybe it would solve the problem?

GoodDayToDie said:
The requirement isn't that the binaries are signed. It's that they're signed by Microsoft.
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Not exactly. They can be signed by any certificate listed in the kek or db and not listed in the dbx. So microsoft (though there are different signatures in rt 8.0 and rt 8.1) and the OEM, and any third party that made drivers that are used on the platform (at least in general). But those are just technical details and don't help find a solution all that much.

Windows 10 build 15035 for Surface RT

Windows 10 compiled for the original Surface RT devices has leaked.
Source: BetaWiki
It would be super cool if this community managed to create a working image for the OG RTs (de-bombed & with correct drivers). Anybody here who could share the leaked image with us?

Avonlady said:
Windows 10 compiled for the original Surface RT devices has leaked.
Source: BetaWiki
It would be super cool if this community managed to create a working image for the OG RTs (de-bombed & with correct drivers). Anybody here who could share the leaked image with us?
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Well, it hasn't exactly leaked yet. Do you have the actual file? I can add the correct drivers and remove the timebomb if I can get my hands on it

Unfortunately no, I don't have access to BetaArchive's FTP. But I would be shocked if nobody on this forum had... Fingers crossed it gets reuploaded soon.

Avonlady said:
Unfortunately no, I don't have access to BetaArchive's FTP. But I would be shocked if nobody on this forum had... Fingers crossed it gets reuploaded soon.
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Another thing we need to find out, does it require configuration to boot? Or is it just a bootable install image?

Well I manage to get the file. Its not iso its a zip. But I have honestly not Idea what to do with it, and I try in all inventive ways, LOL!. I could make a torrent file if any its interested on. With the compromise on do a tutorial later if some one manage to do anything with it.

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Well, it hasn't exactly leaked yet. Do you have the actual file? I can add the correct drivers and remove the timebomb if I can get my hands on it
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To benefit the community and have more people working on this, Did you think you could do some quick howto on doing this. Or point us on the right learning path! Im so eager to learn this stuff!

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To benefit the community and have more people working on this, Did you think you could do some quick howto on doing this. Or point us on the right learning path! Im so eager to learn this stuff!
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In the end, I won't know how exactly to fix the timebomb unless I can see the file itself. Replacing the drivers are just as easy as copy paste into the wim file.

Qiangong2 said:
In the end, I won't know how exactly to fix the timebomb unless I can see the file itself. Replacing the drivers are just as easy as copy paste into the wim file.
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PM you in a moment!

I've been trying to get this running on Surface 2, the way I've been trying with this is a dual boot with RT 8.1 and I've partitioned my device to allow roughly 12GB for the Windows 10 installation.
Unfortunately there is an issue with nvpep causing a BSOD that is beyond my abilities to solve, without nvpep nothing else will work. I don't have a Surface RT to test with but I read that this issue does not manifest on those devices, however it still won't work out of the box.
I've pieced together some information that might be of help if your trying to install that applies to RT and 2.
Make sure secureboot debug policy is applied and don't forget to enable testsigning and nointegritychecks. If you have Jailbreak killing updates installed its probably faster to factory reset your device.
You will need to replace sdbus.sys and ststor.sys in \Windows\system32\drivers\ with versions from RT 8.1.
You will need to edit the registry on build 15035 to disable UAC - HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System - EnableLUA set value to 0.
Before booting 15035 you will need to create new directory on EFIESP in \EFI\Microsoft\Recovery and then create an empty BCD Store in that location.
If you don't add the Surface 2 drivers it will actually boot to the desktop but no devices will work (Pretty much every device requires nvpep up and running first), you can play around with it using a USB keyboard and mouse but its a little pointless at the moment.

Would it be possible to share the build with wider community, so more people can have a shot at getting it up and running? I know I would love to play around with it.

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Would it be possible to share the build with wider community, so more people can have a shot at getting it up and running? I know I would love to play around with it.
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Please make no mistake on the significance of said leak. There is no other known more-recent ARM 32bit Windows 10 build available on the Internet. The driver hacking community could appreciate a more open leak very much (just look at what it did to the Lumia 950/XL hacking scene around gus33000).. Sites like uup dot rg-adguard dot net fail to list this build.

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Would it be possible to share the build with wider community, so more people can have a shot at getting it up and running? I know I would love to play around with it.
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Found this on MDL (Mega.nz Download - I can't seem to post full URL's so remove the "_")
Code:
h_t_t_p_s:/_/mega.nz/#!mJ8BSABD!kgdXbJUTKDehFlAMJ9EXswgZs1gYvijeMEZjDNeBfqU

ChumpDrive said:
Found this on MDL (Mega.nz Download - I can't seem to post full URL's so remove the "_")
Code:
h_t_t_p_s:/_/mega.nz/#!mJ8BSABD!kgdXbJUTKDehFlAMJ9EXswgZs1gYvijeMEZjDNeBfqU
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I might try it.

Well, what about compatibility with the Lumia 2520? Do you think it would be possible to install Win10 or at least 10S on that one too? It runs 8.1RT, like the old surface RT...

mivas said:
Well, what about compatibility with the Lumia 2520? Do you think it would be possible to install Win10 or at least 10S on that one too? It runs 8.1RT, like the old surface RT...
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h-t-t-p-s-:-/-/-betawiki.net/wiki/Windows_10_build_15035

lxy3427 said:
h-t-t-p-s-:-/-/-betawiki.net/wiki/Windows_10_build_15035
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Thank you very much for the link.
Sadly, it says that it doesn't support Lumia 2520... It requires a driver...
I think I won't even ask for unreleased protos, like the Lumia 2020 ("Illusionist") etc

Here's a guide how to install this build on Lumia 1520: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.ithome.com/0/468/534.htm

Avonlady said:
Here's a guide how to install this build on Lumia 1520: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.ithome.com/0/468/534.htm
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Wow! Soo Nice! This makes me want to buy this phone... :good:

Can someone upload these files somewhere else from baidu?

Hello!
This is a guide to install Windows 10 ARM on Surface RT 1/2. https:_/_/_m_.ithome.com/html/469731.htm (remove all _ signs)
What do you think about this?