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1080P Video

Has anyone else noticed when you set camcorder resalution to 1080P that it ia zoomed in. Try switching between 720 and 1080 and you will instantly see what I am talking about. It is very annoying to take close videos in 1080p.

Wow. I didn't notice that.. Very odd
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Makes me worry about quality control...
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1080p sucks. No zoom. Very disappointed in it but overall awesome camera.
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There is no zoom option with 1080p. No biggie -- I'm not seeing any real difference in quality between 1080p and 720p anyway, and you can zoom plus the files are smaller.

I noticed the video was zoomed in more than the camera, but now i see the 1080p looks like its croped from the center of 720p video, or just zoomed way in ,
This seems backwards from tvs and pc screens shouldent the 1080p have the widest field of view , put your pc moniter on 800x600 and then on 1920x1200
the highest resolution has more screen space.
our phone displays may have somekind of scalling bug or wierd crop factor that changes
Need to export videos to pc and check if its still croped.

djjosh said:
I noticed the video was zoomed in more than the camera, but now i see the 1080p looks like its croped from the center of 720p video, or just zoomed way in ,
This seems backwards from tvs and pc screens shouldent the 1080p have the widest field of view , put your pc moniter on 800x600 and then on 1920x1200
the highest resolution has more screen space.
our phone displays may have somekind of scalling bug or wierd crop factor that changes
Need to export videos to pc and check if its still croped.
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Thats what I would think. They talk about it in the anandtech review of the international version. Still don't really understand the reason though.

djjosh said:
I noticed the video was zoomed in more than the camera, but now i see the 1080p looks like its croped from the center of 720p video, or just zoomed way in ,
This seems backwards from tvs and pc screens shouldent the 1080p have the widest field of view , put your pc moniter on 800x600 and then on 1920x1200
the highest resolution has more screen space.
our phone displays may have somekind of scalling bug or wierd crop factor that changes
Need to export videos to pc and check if its still croped.
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This is exactly what I noticed and thought myself.

1080p is pretty much useless on here, I feel that it was an afterthought. Seems the 720p has a bit of stabilization, and overall just looks better.
Here is a shot in 1080:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4AtsXjyKhY
Here is the same shot in 720:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buHigxvlnfo

bondosho said:
1080p is pretty much useless on here, I feel that it was an afterthought. Seems the 720p has a bit of stabilization, and overall just looks better.
Here is a shot in 1080:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4AtsXjyKhY
Here is the same shot in 720:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buHigxvlnfo
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Exactly why I made this thread. Also, watch your two videos and notice how far zoomed in the 1080P video is compared to the 720P. I also have many issues with quality of 1080P, which is why I leave mine set to 720P.

Wow, I am extremely grateful for this thread. I just tested 1080p vs 720p on my phone and 720p seems to have some great image stabilizing and the bitrate looks higher than 1080p.
720p has IS, zoom, and looks so smooth. Couple that with the bitrate hack and you got yourself one hell of a camcorder.

Zexell said:
Wow, I am extremely grateful for this thread. I just tested 1080p vs 720p on my phone and 720p seems to have some great image stabilizing and the bitrate looks higher than 1080p.
720p has IS, zoom, and looks so smooth. Couple that with the bitrate hack and you got yourself one hell of a camcorder.
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bitrate hacking? do tell!

Kikoshi said:
bitrate hacking? do tell!
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Yes please do
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There was a thread created before about this so I investigated. I have came to conclusion the 1080p is better quality. And of course better quality full screen. Watch each file at it's naive resolution. I have a dreamcolor display at 1920x1200 so I can definitely make the call on what looks better. This is my opinion on my findings.
.: sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch :.

The other issue I have found with the camera is that the settings don't survive a reboot. What's the point of editing the shortcuts if you have to redo them every time you reboot the phone or quit the camera app.
On the OG Epic, I could set the camera to black and white and it would remain until I changed it. However, on this camera, I have to set the effects every time I use the camera.
I would say that the camera is sorta flaky. Anyone know if this happens on the other Galaxy S2........

ptfdmedic said:
The other issue I have found with the camera is that the settings don't survive a reboot. What's the point of editing the shortcuts if you have to redo them every time you reboot the phone or quit the camera app.
On the OG Epic, I could set the camera to black and white and it would remain until I changed it. However, on this camera, I have to set the effects every time I use the camera.
I would say that the camera is sorta flaky. Anyone know if this happens on the other Galaxy S2........
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The shortcuts actually on me, they survive the reboot, I haven't fiddled with the whole black and whiteness, and tried to reboot it, but i'll try it out for ya
edit : Well all my other options stayed, eccept the Effects, it reverts back to normal.

Kikoshi said:
bitrate hacking? do tell!
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R1ptide said:
Yes please do
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2
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Check this camera mod out. I can confirm this works with our phones
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104051

krazyflipj said:
Check this camera mod out. I can confirm this works with our phones
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104051
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Thank you!, I can't wait to try it out when i Root my phone.

Did the 1080p get fixed I'm in Fi27 blukuban ,and the 1080p is not zoomed in anymore.
Edit, my bad I must of zoomed its still the same. I must of zoomed in the 720 then compared it , so I tricked myself

One thing I find very annoying is the frame rate temporarily freezing during panning. To say its annoying is an understatement. It drives me crazy! Even qbking's 1080p video test of the note 2 is horribly affected by it. I don't remember if my 4s did it but you couldn't change the resolution at all with it and it certainly didn't look like full res on a 1080p TV. I think it might have had the stutters too but not as bad as these phones. I loved the audio gain circuit in that phone. It wasn't easily over driven like Samsung phones are. Those where the few things I liked about it, everything else was a pita.

Increase the frame rate to 30fps

Ive noticed that the Galaxy Nexus can only record video at a choppy 24fps. I was wondering if there is a way to increase it to 30fps. This phones has more than enough power to do so and I'm not quite understanding why it is so low.

from what I had read of the specs on GSMArena, the camera is supposed to be capable of 30fps.
of course, GSMArena have been wrong before...

Supraman21 said:
This phones has more than enough power to do so and I'm not quite understanding why it is so low.
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Film runs at 24fps. Bluray also runs at 24fps to match the film so that you don't get any nasty 3:2 pull down or audio speed up due to frame rate conversion.
That's no reason why the Nexus should default to 24fps, but it does explain why the frame rate is present.
Just out of interest - when you go to the movie theatre do you complain that it's "choppy" because of the 24fps shutter?

People upgraded the Droid 3's video fps from 20 to 30 so it shouldn't be too hard to do for the Nexus.
im sure we'll see something when the dev community kicks in as the phone is released

HooloovooUK said:
Just out of interest - when you go to the movie theatre do you complain that it's "choppy" because of the 24fps shutter?
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It's because film is recorded on proper 'film' which allows soft blurrs to occur. On a digital camera that has been converted into video duty, low frame rates makes things look like claymation (simply because the camera is taking 'photos').

CanaganD said:
It's because film is recorded on proper 'film' which allows soft blurrs to occur. On a digital camera that has been converted into video duty, low frame rates makes things look like claymation (simply because the camera is taking 'photos').
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Makes no difference. Those "photos" still contain motion blur. What do you think the individual frames of film are?
Also many modern "films" are shot digitally at 24fps.

Even though 24fps is good enough for film, wanting to record at 30fps is not an unreasonable request. 30fps, or more specifically 29.976 fps is a VERY common framerate, in fact this has been the color NTSC video standard since 1953.
It definitely should be supported, as it gives recordings a certain "feel" just like the 24fps rate gives a certain "feel".
My guess is that someone will figure it out if they haven't already for this device like they have on other devices.

cbutters said:
Even though 24fps is good enough for film, wanting to record at 30fps is not an unreasonable request. 30fps, or more specifically 29.976 fps is a VERY common framerate, in fact this has been the color NTSC video standard since 1953.
It definitely should be supported, as it gives recordings a certain "feel" just like the 24fps rate gives a certain "feel".
My guess is that someone will figure it out if they haven't already for this device like they have on other devices.
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Oh, I agree, as I said in my post I was explaining why that "odd" frame rate was present, not arguing against 30fps being available.
I would expect to find 24, 25, and 30fps options. Not having my Nexus yet I wouldn't know.
It would also be nice if it supported 60fps at 720, but I haven't seen anything to confirm this.

I thought the specs listed 30fps @ 720p, 24fps @ 1080p. Not sure where I saw that, have to go look.

HooloovooUK said:
Film runs at 24fps. Bluray also runs at 24fps to match the film so that you don't get any nasty 3:2 pull down or audio speed up due to frame rate conversion.
That's no reason why the Nexus should default to 24fps, but it does explain why the frame rate is present.
Just out of interest - when you go to the movie theatre do you complain that it's "choppy" because of the 24fps shutter?
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Movies are filmed with $100,000 cameras. They are always following a subject and use a lot of motion blur. With all of this, you cant see choppiness. You shouldn't give Samsung/Google excuses for poor performance. This is a $650 device coming out at the end of 2011, I expect top quality. Luckily this is a Nexus device so im assuming work could be done to fix this.

Dmw017 said:
People upgraded the Droid 3's video fps from 20 to 30 so it shouldn't be too hard to do for the Nexus.
im sure we'll see something when the dev community kicks in as the phone is released
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I don't have a Galaxy Nexus as im waiting for the Verizon version. I'm just trying to get this problem noticed so when I do get the phone I can fix it.

HooloovooUK said:
Oh, I agree, as I said in my post I was explaining why that "odd" frame rate was present, not arguing against 30fps being available.
I would expect to find 24, 25, and 30fps options. Not having my Nexus yet I wouldn't know.
It would also be nice if it supported 60fps at 720, but I haven't seen anything to confirm this.
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Ahhh, understood... 60fps @ 720 would be pretty sweet as well.

All video settings (480P, 720P and 1080P) are set to 25fps and are not changeable from within the settings menu.
Im sure that it can be hacked to give more options but for now thats all you get out of the box.
1080P does look outstanding though with no choppyness at all.
Mark.

mskip said:
All video settings (480P, 720P and 1080P) are set to 25fps and are not changeable from within the settings menu.
Im sure that it can be hacked to give more options but for now thats all you get out of the box.
1080P does look outstanding though with no choppyness at all.
Mark.
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Have you seen the Galaxy S2 and iPhone 4S videos? Now thats outstanding and smooth. I dont know why Samsung chose not to put the GS2 sensor in the Galaxy Nexus.

That can hopefully be changed in media_profiles.xml later.

mskip said:
All video settings (480P, 720P and 1080P) are set to 25fps and are not changeable from within the settings menu.
Im sure that it can be hacked to give more options but for now thats all you get out of the box.
1080P does look outstanding though with no choppyness at all.
Mark.
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So the OP is talking rubbish then when saying only 24fps setting is available?
I did suspect that. I wouldn't have expected 24fps to have been available at all, so for me I would have considered it a bonus feature not something to be complained about.
It's interesting that there is not a 576p option, given that 480p at 25fps doesn't make any sense since it doesn't match any standard - I'm not sure any TVs would even support that. It should be 480p30 or 576p25.

Is it easy to access the media_profiles.xml? Im surprised no one has created any quality enhancements for video like what was done for the Galaxy S2. This camera is crap

anyone gotten anywhere w/ this yet?

Who cares? The GNex is awesome and if ANYTHING is possible on it, then the dev community will crack it and find it

HooloovooUK said:
Just out of interest - when you go to the movie theatre do you complain that it's "choppy" because of the 24fps shutter?
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I do, and so does James Cameron.

Is [email protected] due to the software?

As Google announced at their event, the GN should film [email protected], but after seeing the many review which are available on the net, the conclusion is that the GN only films at 24fps.
Could this be fixed through software? It would be a huge lie, if Google mentioned 30fps, reality being something else.

i would also like to know that.. really dont like 24 fps

Is that why the videos seem so choppy ?

generally, most film is done at 24FPS which is the standard for NTSC. in the past, they would 'convert' films to 30FPS by "splitting" the A/B fields in the video in an attempt to give it a more fluid sort of feel. they originally did this for older tv sets though...
if you were watching such films on a newer TV for instance you could tell a video's been converted by seeing occasional weird doubling/lines appear in motion-filled areas. tv's/pc's though have software "filters" to hide this effect, at least the lines part.. but if you have good eyes you'll still see the occasional doubling(ghosting).
considering the compact size of the GN screen though, you should not see "jerkiness(choppiness)" unless it's some sort of hardware or software related issue.
[EDIT] although it would still be weird to do a full 1080P video and limit it to 24FPS even if you are just watching it on your phone. the whole 24FPS thing was from the DVD days.

This is normal spec of 1080p videos. If you had an HTPC you'd probably already be aware of this, as some videocard manufactures have a bug were it's not fully 24fps, or alternates causing you to see a shudder..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p

When filming at 1080p it is usually done at 30fps...
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The FPS is usually capped in media_profiles.xml that you can find in the source on AOSP. That's where the quality settings and codecs used per setting is defined.

But why all the video looks like under-water

Emama said:
But why all the video looks like under-water
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Really want to know about this problem Cox this is the problem that pull me from press checkout

Luxferro said:
This is normal spec of 1080p videos. If you had an HTPC you'd probably already be aware of this, as some videocard manufactures have a bug were it's not fully 24fps, or alternates causing you to see a shudder..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p
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Film is 23.976 fps. If your video card is set to 24fps instead of 23.976, you'll get a stutter every 41.66 seconds.

f231f said:
Film is 23.976 fps. If your video card is set to 24fps instead of 23.976, you'll get a stutter every 41.66 seconds.
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yeah I knew it was 23.something_close_to_24.
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[Q]1080p @ 30fps, a way to hack it?

Just wanna know if there has been any work done to get the Galaxy Nexus to record 1080p video at 30fps instead of 24fps. I've searched in every Galaxy Nexus forum and have come up short.
Any ideas? Gonna get my Galaxy Nexus in about a week or so probably.

higher bitrate would be awesome too, like 20mbps for 1080p video
also some tweaking that reduces that annoying waviness when panning the camera in a video would be good.

I don't mind so much the bitrate, as well, the sensor isn't GREAT anyway. I'm actually quite surprised no one has come up with a tweak or hack to enable [email protected] on the Galaxy Nexus ):

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21089723
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Doesn't increase the frame rate though. Higher bitrate just means better quality per frame, but there's still not enough frames to make recording smooth at 24fps >.<

have you tried another camera app? i know LGCamera allows selection of FPS.
higher bitrate is a huge leap in quality though
looking forward to someone hacking the hell out of panorama mode to allow larger size (why not full size?)

1080 x 1920 Bootanimation

I've been looking for a new bootanimation for my Xperia Z for some time now, but I can't find one with the right resolution...
Can anyone make some for 1080 x 1920 resolution?
I guess I'm not the only one wanting something new!
Stock 434.
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My experience with 1080x1920 BA's has been hit or miss as far as them playing smooth. I've been using 720x1280 ones. They look great and play flawless.
Ps. When I do the 720x1280 ones, I edit the desc.txt and change the resolution to 1080x1920. So, it's using 720x1280 images, but playing them full screen.

Mi|enko said:
My experience with 1080x1920 BA's has been hit or miss as far as them playing smooth. I've been using 720x1280 ones. They look great and play flawless.
Ps. When I do the 720x1280 ones, I edit the desc.txt and change the resolution to 1080x1920. So, it's using 720x1280 images, but playing them full screen.
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Your idea is good but how bout quality huh?
I'm pretty sure the quality isn't the one which he wants
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sadiq23 said:
Your idea is good but how bout quality huh?
I'm pretty sure the quality isn't the one which he wants
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Quality's just fine IMO. I mean, it's only a 5 inch screen. Most people can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a 42+" TV from only a few feet away. 720p images stretched to 1080p on a 5" screen, the likelihood of noticing any artificating or anything is pretty slim. Now, if you were to just grab one of the BA's apps in the play store and try to use ones from that, you'd be lucky to find a phone model one over 480x800, so those will probably look like crap.
Also, you can use much higher quality images and play the animation smooth when they're 720x1280; however, when you have the images at 1080x1920 you really have to sacrifice the quality of each from to get the file size down. . . and it's still rough getting it to play smooth.

Mi|enko said:
Quality's just fine IMO. I mean, it's only a 5 inch screen. Most people can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a 42+" TV from only a few feet away. 720p images stretched to 1080p on a 5" screen, the likelihood of noticing any artificating or anything is pretty slim. Now, if you were to just grab one of the BA's apps in the play store and try to use ones from that, you'd be lucky to find a phone model one over 480x800, so those will probably look like crap.
Also, you can use much higher quality images and play the animation smooth when they're 720x1280; however, when you have the images at 1080x1920 you really have to sacrifice the quality of each from to get the file size down. . . and it's still rough getting it to play smooth.
Ironically, I spent the better part of Q1 of this year working on boot animations and optimizing them for work. So this is stuff I learned on the job.
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Well thanx for your info:thumbup:
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I will try!
Thx
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