I have a touch pro 2 and have just come off a no data limit package to a cheap 100 mb one on o2.
Nowadays I hardly use the data on my fone but only a week after switching I get a text that I've hit my limit. I use email push but only a dozen or so emails a day. No fb or twitter. no browsing.
I notice whenever email gets pushed the notification says I'm still connected. 20 hours I was connected for but I wasn't using any online applications. Is it normal for it to sit idling like that and will this contribute to my allowance ... Seems pretty clear it does.
I've tried all the settings but nothing switches the mobile internet off automatically when I connect to pick up emails.
TubThumper said:
I have a touch pro 2 and have just come off a no data limit package to a cheap 100 mb one on o2.
Nowadays I hardly use the data on my fone but only a week after switching I get a text that I've hit my limit. I use email push but only a dozen or so emails a day. No fb or twitter. no browsing.
I notice whenever email gets pushed the notification says I'm still connected. 20 hours I was connected for but I wasn't using any online applications. Is it normal for it to sit idling like that and will this contribute to my allowance ... Seems pretty clear it does.
I've tried all the settings but nothing switches the mobile internet off automatically when I connect to pick up emails.
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Just connect, grab email, disconnect. If you have to manually connect, I don't see why it's a big deal to manually disconnect. If you leave it connected, there's applications that will use the net by default - like weather, etc.
Actually I think the weather app was responsible in the first instance but it's off now.
Just doesn't make sense that it would not switch off.
TubThumper said:
Actually I think the weather app was responsible in the first instance but it's off now.
Just doesn't make sense that it would not switch off.
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What do you mean? If you switch it on, it stays on. Just switch it off when you're done.
I guess what I mean is that if a device has push email functionality is doesn't make sense that when it retrieves it, it doesn't go offline.
I'm manually connecting now and that seems to be working.
Thanks for the help so far.
TubThumper said:
I guess what I mean is that if a device has push email functionality is doesn't make sense that when it retrieves it, it doesn't go offline.
I'm manually connecting now and that seems to be working.
Thanks for the help so far.
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If you enable the connection, it will stay enabled. There might be some app like mortscript or something that will help you automate this process, but if you manually enable it you're going to have to manually disable it, short of what I mentioned above.
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Hi,
I downloaded the Black Rom with everything (black_big) and everything seem to work fine except for two things:
1) when I do active sync over gprs I keep getting an "out of memory" error from active sync. if I look at the memory during the sync, then it's nothing near being used (25mb left). To me this seems like an active sync error of some sort. it always happens at calendar item 100 (it starts processing there).
2) I have turned on direct push in the connection manager, but it does not seem like the button actually does anything. in WM5 the phone automatically connected to the internet (gprs) when I turned on the push. Now it simply changes color but nothing else happens. Even if I force the connection to be open, I still does not get any mails etc. through. I have to manually fetch the mails. Is there a setting I have missed somewhere?
kimusan said:
Hi,
I downloaded the Black Rom with everything (black_big) and everything seem to work fine except for two things:
1) when I do active sync over gprs I keep getting an "out of memory" error from active sync. if I look at the memory during the sync, then it's nothing near being used (25mb left). To me this seems like an active sync error of some sort. it always happens at calendar item 100 (it starts processing there).
2) I have turned on direct push in the connection manager, but it does not seem like the button actually does anything. in WM5 the phone automatically connected to the internet (gprs) when I turned on the push. Now it simply changes color but nothing else happens. Even if I force the connection to be open, I still does not get any mails etc. through. I have to manually fetch the mails. Is there a setting I have missed somewhere?
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Hey man why don't you make this question in the Big Black Rom Thread???
No need to make a new thread don't you think?
mikhe69 said:
Hey man why don't you make this question in the Big Black Rom Thread???
No need to make a new thread don't you think?
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Because it is already overflooded with useless posts and this one would just drown in that thread.
kimusan said:
Because it is already overflooded with useless posts and this one would just drown in that thread.
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But this is wrong, if all of us do the same has you, imagine the millions of threads around the forum. And then the forum will be useless.
You should ask this to the guy who develop this or at least to the users of this ROM, IN THE ROM THREAD!!
agreed... post in the appropriate thread please
Hello Fellow
I just don't get it. In my opinion I have set up my device properly, but I can't get the pushed pages firmly: sometimes pages will be updated according the Schedule Settings but mostly it won't.
I have scheduled the device updating the pages every 1 hour. Somehow the device is being updated the pages just once or twice per day
Set Up:
- The device is Hard Reseted
- Menu: Schedule settings: every weekday selected, start time 6:00, end time 23:00, Frequency: every 1 hour
- Menu: Data settings: Push Internet and Roaming ON
- Communication: Data Connection ON
- HSDPA network set up and OK, Wifi connection OFF
- ROM: 1.19.414.1 (51489) wwe 06/22/09
Do you have same sort of problems or am I just only one? Do you have any idea what's wrong? Is it just ROM bug...
Any help is appreciated.
Kind Regards,
Illodin
You're not the only one with these issues. Sometimes it works as per the settings, ie every 6hrs and other times it just does it when it pleases.
Worked great for me until recently. Now it doen't update anymore. Wonder what made it change it's mind...
same problem here - sounds like a bug
didnt work for me either, and operator 9.5 crashes. now using opera 9.7, and all the handy things like landscape and zoom are broken too.
Be careful with notification queue and Push Internet
Pust internet gave me and others quite some problems with the notification queue.
It loads many duplicates a day. Even switched off.
I ended up with 150 dups in a few days which slows down your system.
So my advice is to switch Push Internet really off via the registry only.
See here how.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544394&highlight=queue
Huib
Mine too, but only with pop/imap account. Push mail works fine with exchange. So, I use SEVEN with "real push" support for my yahoo and gmail account.
shadixs said:
Mine too, but only with pop/imap account. Push mail works fine with exchange. So, I use SEVEN with "real push" support for my yahoo and gmail account.
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We are talking about push INTERNET ginving al those duplicate notifications!
herpi said:
We are talking about push INTERNET ginving al those duplicate notifications!
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Sorry, replied on a wrong thread.. My mistake...
jklondon said:
same problem here - sounds like a bug
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works OK for me, except that sometimes the pages get mis-labelled i.e. click on Site A brings up Site B, It sorts itself out after a while
I've set up my gmail account with my htc desire and can access my emails fine using the Google mail application (the one with a red M in an envelope). However, to test the push email function, I emailed myself from another account. On my pc, the email arrived instantly, but my desire didn't notify of a new message till almost 15 minutes later.
Is there a setting somewhere that i might have missed - to enable retrieval of emails as they arrive?
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I've set up my gmail account with my htc desire and can access my emails fine using the Google mail application (the one with a red M in an envelope). However, to test the push email function, I emailed myself from another account. On my pc, the email arrived instantly, but my desire didn't notify of a new message till almost 15 minutes later.
Is there a setting somewhere that i might have missed - to enable retrieval of emails as they arrive?
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Were you using wifi? Push is really crap over wifi on the desire, the only time I get the push email instantly is when I use mobile data instead.
I was having the same problem and think that it doesnt allow push.
I then set ot up in exchange activesync but im worried about battery life :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657065
Hope that is of some use.
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Were you using wifi? Push is really crap over wifi on the desire, the only time I get the push email instantly is when I use mobile data instead.
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Yeah I always use mobile data too. I hardly ever use wifi unless I'm downloading something big to my phone such as copilot maps.
Anyway, I've set it up with activesync now and push is working flawlessly. Sometimes I get notified of emails before they even arrive on my pc.
hot-fuzz said:
I was having the same problem and think that it doesnt allow push.
I then set ot up in exchange activesync but im worried about battery life :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657065
Hope that is of some use.
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hot-fuzz, I'm gonna start tomorrow with a full charge and have active sync running all day. I'll post my findings here if I observe dramatic decrease in battery life.
got it set up on the one i am using and it seems to work just fine. Emails appear on the phone within seconds of arriving at Gmail.
I do sometimes get periods where it is a bit slower though, i think generally when in a bad signal area where i only have 2G. I'm guessing when it has lower signal or only 2G, it may slow down the checking to save battery power or bandwidth or something....
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hot-fuzz, I'm gonna start tomorrow with a full charge and have active sync running all day. I'll post my findings here if I observe dramatic decrease in battery life.
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That would be very useful. Thinking of doing it myself.
If i have mine setup for every 5 minutes thats 13 times every hour (including on the hour). I need to know if exchange polls take up more battery than checking 13 times an hour, if i get less than 13 emails an hour via exchange (which i do).
hmmmmm
Be interesting what peoples findings are on battery life and different ways to grab email.
I want to get back to the main topic.
I came from HTC Hero where Gmail push (in the gmail app) worked perfect - also on the 2.1 custom roms.
Not on the Desire it does not push the mails instantley. I don't want to go the way over the HTC Mail app...
Anyone has an idea how to fix it?
My wife and I both now have WM phones (mine is a Tilt 2, hers a Pure) and we don't want to spend money on text messages to each other, since each text message would count twice... once for her receiving and once for me sending. (on a pay per use plan it would be $0.40 each!).
I was looking for other options. Push email is o.k. but often times there can be a minute or more delay, and my early tests of push gmail are not producing any confidence that it would push reliably.
So then I was thinking IM. It looks like IM programs would be battery hogs, and have to stay running in the background, and could easily be accidentally closed. Also, when the phone goes to sleep it seems like they then switch you to "offline".
So am I missing something? What are my sms like, non sms options?
Also does anyone have any small programs that would set up a auto-soft reset on a repeating schedule, it would be great if I could start the morning with a fresh phone. Thanks.
boufa said:
My wife and I both now have WM phones (mine is a Tilt 2, hers a Pure) and we don't want to spend money on text messages to each other, since each text message would count twice... once for her receiving and once for me sending. (on a pay per use plan it would be $0.40 each!).
I was looking for other options. Push email is o.k. but often times there can be a minute or more delay, and my early tests of push gmail are not producing any confidence that it would push reliably.
So then I was thinking IM. It looks like IM programs would be battery hogs, and have to stay running in the background, and could easily be accidentally closed. Also, when the phone goes to sleep it seems like they then switch you to "offline".
So am I missing something? What are my sms like, non sms options?
Also does anyone have any small programs that would set up a auto-soft reset on a repeating schedule, it would be great if I could start the morning with a fresh phone. Thanks.
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Yes, any non-sms messaging app for your phone would obviously use data (3G or EDGE connection) to communicate, and would need to be left on all the time to be able to receive incoming messages and notify you in real-time...so battery drain would be in direct proportion to that.
The best solution I've ever seen for that is Palringo, a free IM-integrator app that can connect you through most of the common IM networks (yahoo, AIM, Google talk, etc), or just direct through it's own (if I remember correctly)...meaning that as long as you and she both have the palringo client installed, you don't necessarily have to use any of those services to be able to IM each other. It's also free, and I seem to recall that it can be set (but isn't by default) to stay connected even when the phone goes to sleep, but don't quote me on that part.
It would be great if one of these programs had a "listening" service that would run in the background and then notify you of the "call" similar to an email.
I have seen a few online, (my research has just begun) that indicates "push notifications". Sound interesting, the data connection would remain active all the time that does not bother me.
I seem to have lost the setting to switch the "x" button from close to minimize. That would solve the issue with accidental closing the program. It would have to be managed via the task manager.. no biggy.. and then if I can find a soft reset scheduler it would keep the open programs from overwhelming the phone.
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It would be great if one of these programs had a "listening" service that would run in the background and then notify you of the "call" similar to an email.
I have seen a few online, (my research has just begun) that indicates "push notifications". Sound interesting, the data connection would remain active all the time that does not bother me.
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If you'll find one, please let me know
lost the setting to switch the "x" button from close to minimize.
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it's the other way around. default for winmo is minimize, there is
an htc bundled app called taskman. it's in settings - task manager which is making apps close when you click X
plenty of other apps can change that too
and then if I can find a soft reset scheduler it would keep the open programs from overwhelming the phone.
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i made myself app doing change on backlight settings every morning and evening, I changed it for you to do reset
give it a try tell me if it's working for you and if error will pop up let me know what's it saying, at least line number
I've setup my gmail account on my desire HD. Sometimes it worked well, I can receive notification just when I received a mail, but sometimes it will be several minutes later, and for now, it didn't show up at all.
I've checked all settings, it's correct. And if I changed some settings at sync&Account options, it'll show push message several minutes later; but after a while, it won't work again.
I never faced these problems when I use Iphone. So could you give me some advice on this issue?
BTW, when I received a message from i.e. whatsapp messenger, the push mail notification will show up at the same time.
My GMail push works flawlessly. Instant notification as soon as I get something. No idea what's wrong with your account/settings though, sorry. The only thing you could mess up is turning synchronization off for the whole device or even only for your GMail account by accident, but you said you checked that...maybe double-check it again, that would be my only idea right now
Always remember you need data connection for gmail to work.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Thanks to all, maybe network problem.
I finally got my notification 30 minutes later. It's work status seemed not stable. And today I got my mail notification much sooner, I mean less than a minute.
Maybe it's network problem, I'm not sure because it's all OK when I used Iphone.
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I finally got my notification 30 minutes later. It's work status seemed not stable. And today I got my mail notification much sooner, I mean less than a minute.
Maybe it's network problem, I'm not sure because it's all OK when I used Iphone.
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i get exactly the same problem...
i do notice that notifications work perfectly when i am on my wifi..however under cellular data (3G or H) sometimes the notifications can take their time..sometimes it comes immediately..and i know because i set up a notification widget at my work pc and that works flawlessly,
so what i end up doing is to set exchange for gmail!..
and that works perfect..well almost 99% of the time..
for this to work..you set up exchange put your username and no domain..
and server for gmail is m.google.com
set the update for push..and thats it..
now gmail on cellular network gets push correctly...
it sucks cuz i rather use the gmail client...but it will do for me...
so ..am guessing that if it works on wifi ..it might be an issue with the cellular network..i am with vodafone..
I'm with Optus and I get new mail notifications on my phone near instantly over 3G.
nandihno said:
i get exactly the same problem...
i do notice that notifications work perfectly when i am on my wifi..however under cellular data (3G or H) sometimes the notifications can take their time..sometimes it comes immediately..and i know because i set up a notification widget at my work pc and that works flawlessly,
so what i end up doing is to set exchange for gmail!..
and that works perfect..well almost 99% of the time..
for this to work..you set up exchange put your username and no domain..
and server for gmail is m.google.com
set the update for push..and thats it..
now gmail on cellular network gets push correctly...
it sucks cuz i rather use the gmail client...but it will do for me...
so ..am guessing that if it works on wifi ..it might be an issue with the cellular network..i am with vodafone..
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I noticed this too when I started using my phone
exchange server seems to be real push, gmail app takes a while to update for me but i like the gmail app more than the standard mail app, maybe theres a better one out there.