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My phone is blacklisted

so my phone i bought off craigslist is blacklisted. what do i doo? can i delete the efs folder and it will work? or like unlock it and it will work on att? what do i do!?

You may be stuck. Did you get any type of proof of purchase off the person. Anyway to prove you bought it from a legitimate owner?
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i bought it off craigslist so i have to proof and the person wont pick up. what do i do!?

Without being able to prove you bought the phone in a legit deal probably nothing. Craigslist is full of this. I also got my phone from craigslist but had the guy meet me at a t mobile store and got a t mobile rep to verify the transaction.
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You may be stuck. There have been three other posts that I can remember about same thing happening. Unless you can providetmobile that you bought it feom that perso. And show he purchased it and didnt steal it, they may be able to take it off blacklist.
g1user101 said:
i bought it off craigslist so i have to proof and the person wont pick up. what do i do!?
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chib1panda said:
You may be stuck. There have been three other posts that I can remember about same thing happening. Unless you can providetmobile that you bought it feom that perso. And show he purchased it and didnt steal it, they may be able to take it off blacklist.
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Something i have been wondering lately... So far, i have only seen documents of the sk4g (my own personal experience) and gs2 being blacklisted. Do all phones now qualify? Only samsung?
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Good job, admitting to insurance fraud on a public board...

n1n00b said:
Good job, admitting to insurance fraud on a public board...
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^ hahaha
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There is one of three reasons you're blacklisted.
The phone was reported lost/stolen to Asurion and a claim was made.
The phone is a T-Mobile demo device that was stolen.
It was purchased on a Value plan and the customer defaulted on the bill.
You can try tinkering with the efs but no idea what trouble that will get you in or if that works on the GS2. If you can find the craigslist ad or money order receipt they may reverse it but it might have to go to risk assessment and take awhile.

ungarisch said:
WTF??? blacklist? there is no such thing, I'm currently using a GS2 that was "lost" by my GF, claimed on insurance, and "found" by me.
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I was wondering if they considered a difference between lost and stolen. But again, i was told they blacklist for reasons that directly affect them - fraud, theft from a store, or not making payments.
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I thought asurion required that you file a police report if you told them someone stole it before they filed your claim? If you say its lost and found it later they may not blacklist it assuming that most people will . I have heard that at times asurion will allow you to keep your found phone if you claim lost then found it later. Not 100% sure on that.
jonathan3579 said:
I was wondering if they considered a difference between lost and stolen. But again, i was told they blacklist for reasons that directly affect them - fraud, theft from a store, or not making payments.
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i change any phone imei before using it.
who cares blacklist or not, it is censorship, same as SOPA and PIPA.
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chib1panda said:
I thought asurion required that you file a police report if you told them someone stole it before they filed your claim? If you say its lost and found it later they may not blacklist it assuming that most people will . I have heard that at times asurion will allow you to keep your found phone if you claim lost then found it later. Not 100% sure on that.
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Yep. I have a manager friend at a T-Mobile store who advised me and others to NEVER report stolen.
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cgigate said:
i change any phone imei before using it.
who cares blacklist or not, it is censorship, same as SOPA and PIPA.
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Lol
I wasnt sure you existed

yeah I don't think tmobile or asurion will blacklist a phone if it was lost because if found, it can still be used. However, if someone purposely stole a phone from a store/person, then it would be blacklisted. Not 100% sure but sounds about right.

well the phone is brand new condition. no scratches nothing. you think ill be able to sell it for only $200?

no, keep it as a tablet, or file a police report, and hope to get your money back

Don't sell it or your just as bad as the person who sold it to you
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clninja said:
Don't sell it or your just as bad as the person who sold it to you
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true statement.unless you tell the person exactly the situation the phone is in.maybe a developer can use it
From a glaxay better than yours.

AllGamer said:
no, keep it as a tablet, or file a police report, and hope to get your money back
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Seconded like in every other fraud or stolen phone thread

Got screwed...So I got 2 blacklisted phones...what should I do?

Will they work on any other carrier if I unlock them?

lol how did you manage that?

G1_enthusiast said:
lol how did you manage that?
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So will they work on another carrier?

Yes, they will. Att
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Karakoram2 said:
Yes, they will. Att
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Thanks alot man....

sounds like a stolen device...admin should lock these cause its seem very fishy...
just saying, i hate thieves and i'm sure most of us here would be too if your phone got stolen

G1_enthusiast said:
sounds like a stolen device...admin should lock these cause its seem very fishy...
just saying, i hate thieves and i'm sure most of us here would be too if your phone got stolen
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Hello I got tricked into buy New phones.. I am not the thief here. I lost alot of money.
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Make sure you flash a skyrocket radio.
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pachi72 said:
Hello I got tricked into buy New phones.. I am not the thief here. I lost alot of money.
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I don't think he was referring to you... I think he was trying to say that Admin should make a sticky that people should really check the phone's imei at tmobile store to see if they're blacklisted.

pachi72 said:
Hello I got tricked into buy New phones.. I am not the thief here. I lost alot of money.
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its not new if its "blacklisted" its call buying it used, you would not have this problem if you bought it new.
either way eventually tmobile gonna track you down. keep us updated if it work

i also was scamed i bought a amaze from Clist called Tmobile with imei # and thy said it was good.i used the phone for 3 weeks, then i droped it broke the screen and call insurance to get it replaced thy said the phone was reported lost and will not replace the phone. the insurance company had the phone black listed but tmobile did not.
so now im stuck with a amaze with cracked screen that still works on tmobile but is black listed with insurance.
moral of the story is you have to call tmobile and asurion with the imei # before you buy a phone from someone other then Tmobile

Return it and get your money back. You have been scammed.
It seems that this kind of thing is happening more often since T-mobile started blacklisting phones that are reported list or stolen. Also they are blacklisting phones that have been purchased on a payment plan and the owner terminated the contract and never paid for the phone or the ETF.
Good luck
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I personally stopped trading/selling phones on cl because there are just too many kids and immature people to deal with. plus now with all this there is no guarantee that you are getting a quality product. Just contact the person and demand your money back. Tell them you'll take them to small claims court. You have evidence from Tmobile and Ashton that the phones were reported lost/stolen. And you were not aware of that at the point of sale.
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One way to protect yourself is checking the database at http://www.checkmend.com/us
Ask the seller the phone IMEI before buying. If the phone is not legit you will never hear from the seller.

Which phones are these ???
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Sucks that it's pretty much not remotely safe to buy phones from craigslist anymore. I have been doing it for years and always got the latest and greatest cause some idiot had not idea how much their phone was really worth. But with all this blacklisting now at tmobile, i think i am done with that practice .

Sell them to me ???
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I thoug you guys were smart enough!!
All of you ... All you gotta do its say your phone drop at the peer near the beach or a lake or sumething similar,, and insurance dosnt even care they will send you a new phone ohh also tell them you need accesories cause your dog bit them all haha i have done this **** so many times trust me you just got to call them or visit their website its faster phoneclaim.com, and you will have a new phone.. If you are a little ***** dont try this at home please hahahahaha

why lie? Asurion can see what you own, and what you've been using. You saying these things encourages others to continue this fraud business. You should be banned for saying something like that.
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All of you ... All you gotta do its say your phone drop at the peer near the beach or a lake or sumething similar,, and insurance dosnt even care they will send you a new phone ohh also tell them you need accesories cause your dog bit them all haha i have done this **** so many times trust me you just got to call them or visit their website its faster phoneclaim.com, and you will have a new phone.. If you are a little ***** dont try this at home please hahahahaha
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chib1panda said:
why lie? Asurion can see what you own, and what you've been using. You saying these things encourages others to continue this fraud business. You should be banned for saying something like that.
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im sharing my info , thats all , you should be banned for been dumb , and no they dont know what you are using, if im writin this its ebecause i know, and obviosly u dont. You just talk bro i suggest you save your words if you havent done this in the past, when you actually do it yourself n find out how does it work, then you can talk

[Q] No Reception at my house - cause for a cancelling of contract?

Hi.
I bought this phone 3 days ago. It's all stock. Untouched!
I am having reception issues at my house.
I have spent hours with t-mobile reps.
Finally they admitted that my house location is "borrowing signal" from other carriers, as they have no tower here. So i am borrowing from AT&T and (could it be - verizon?? that's what the rep told me in any case).
In any case, is this a legitimate way of leaving the contract i signed? Obviously I can't keep using T-Mobile.
Also, if it is a legitimate cancellation reason, what is going to be done with my phone itself? Do I need to ship it back? Do I get to keep it?
Thank U all !!!

Unless u paid retail for the phone, im sure it still belongs to the carrier? I do believe its a legit reason for tmobile to cancel the contract tho.
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You just signed the contract 3 days ago? You have 2 weeks to back out of the contract.
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Towle said:
You just signed the contract 3 days ago? You have 2 weeks to back out of the contract.
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ironically, i just moved! so i had the contract for 5 weeks now.

I have one bar at my house but I couldn't care less...I use wifi calling. Is that an option for you?
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blackangst said:
I have one bar at my house but I couldn't care less...I use wifi calling. Is that an option for you?
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No. To be honest, it's partly a matter of principle - u buy a phone, U want it to work. but that's not the only thing. I work from home. I do a lot of talking, and I go outside, walk around with the dog. Blah blah... i need a phone that has signal!
The reason I am asking here, is that you guys are impartial. I know I can just call T-Mobile, but they might sell me something or not share the entire info. I am mainly interested in what is going to happen with the phone itself. I love the phone. I would even unlock it and move to ATT (and yes, limit myself to 2G - that's fine), but are they going to let me keep the phone?

benyben123 said:
No. To be honest, it's partly a matter of principle - u buy a phone, U want it to work. but that's not the only thing. I work from home. I do a lot of talking, and I go outside, walk around with the dog. Blah blah... i need a phone that has signal!
The reason I am asking here, is that you guys are impartial. I know I can just call T-Mobile, but they might sell me something or not share the entire info. I am mainly interested in what is going to happen with the phone itself. I love the phone. I would even unlock it and move to ATT (and yes, limit myself to 2G - that's fine), but are they going to let me keep the phone?
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Negative. Unless you paid full price for the phone, it still belongs to T-Mobile. However, if you cancel, and then head over to ATT, they'll have some nice phones as well, including the Skyrocket (our sister phone), AND the international SII.
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I think you get a 14 day trial. You may have to pay a $25 restocking fee though.
Edit. When I posted this from the mobile app I would have been the third post, but ended up way down here. So didn't mean to be redundant.
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benyben123 said:
ironically, i just moved! so i had the contract for 5 weeks now.
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Your best best is to check with T-Mobile and see if they will allow someone to take over your contract and if so start looking for someone to do so. 5 weeks goes beyond any return period I have heard and they will most likely they would say it isn't their fault you moved to an area where they don't have great reception.

Isn't the etf $200? If so you can pay that. Sell the phone on Craigslist, easily and buy another on Craigslist for similar price. Better yet get the note for att.
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From my own personal experience, they will not waive the contract cancel fee for this situation.
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[Q] Found T-Mobile Galaxy S3

I might be the luckiest person ever. I found a T-Mobile Galaxy S3.
Anyways, can I get in trouble for using the phone? Can T-Mobile somehow track the phone and disable it.
Thanks for your answers.
P.S. The phone has no contact store, so I can't really return it to the owner. The only dialed number is a company.

Go to t mobile store and return it. They will use IMEI to find the owner. If the owner report it stolen tmobile will black list the phone and you may not be able to use it anyway.
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You're not the luckiest person ever. You're a dishonest person who's trying to keep something that's not theirs. Do what the person above me said and contact T-Mobile.
I'd really like to hear how you "found" it.

Just replace the Sim card and use it. Founder keeper. Loser file insurance claim.
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ill buy it from you for $100 bucks

You "found" it lmao..
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Thank for you response
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Thanks
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I'll buy it from you for $200 even after t-mobile has the imei black listed *my secret*
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sarajlija said:
I might be the luckiest person ever. I found a T-Mobile Galaxy S3.
Anyways, can I get in trouble for using the phone? Can T-Mobile somehow track the phone and disable it.
Thanks for your answers.
P.S. The phone has no contact store, so I can't really return it to the owner. The only dialed number is a company.
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What is wrong with you? Return the damn phone. Don't be a loser, thief, lowlife. Do the right thing. Stealing is stealing. Good grief. Is that how your mom raised you? Sad....
toanau said:
Just replace the Sim card and use it. Founder keeper. Loser file insurance claim.
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I hope someone steals an expensive item near and dear to you. We clearly understand your lack of morality. Karma is a *****.
The damn entitlement generation on display. Dumb, greedy, lazy, self centered kids. Just what this world needs more of.
I have witnessed this in forum after forum. Thieves that are too stupid to know what they are doing are coming to the Internet begging for us to help them with their heist. Pathetic.

It won't work after black listed so be careful I would try to take it to tmobile store to
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I am really surprised at all of the responses from people suggesting yuo should keep the phone or better yet, sell it to them! That is really the worst advice anyone can offer, what the hell are you guys thinking? It's dishonest and kind of sh..tty to suggest that they should keep the phone and hope the owner had insurance... if that's how you live your life, I am hope I don't live nearby you - - Karma my friends - the best thing to do would be to return the phone to any T MOBILE Store - what would you want them to do if it was your phone?

the poor soul who lost his/her galaxy s3 is probably pulling there hair and gouging there eyes out by now... so sad...
If I had found this phone, I would do everything in my power to get it back to its owner. When the owner finally gets reunited with the phone I doubt they would leave you walking empty handed however even if they do at least you know you have done a very amazing deed.
Who knows someday you may lose something and some generous soul will return your lost item to you. :angel:

Oh my feelings are hurt by all these strangers judging me online. Why don't you people believe me hehe
I think, I will just keep the phone on for a couple days and hopefully the owner will call

What the hell man, leave the phone in a T-Mobile store.
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so if the phone still has a sim card and it works, just return the phone to tmobile and they will track the number and they could see who it belongs to!
do something great, people will do the same to you.

I agree with everyones (some) responses. I found a iPhone 4S with a pink case. I was able to get ahold of the owner (beautiful girl) and she cried and gave me so many thank yous. She offered $50 but i declined it. If i ever lose my baby (gs3) ...I would hope someone would do the same. Return the phone man..

My insurance was canceled....if I were to lose my phone I'd have to pay full price for a new one. I couldn't afford another Siii.
Return it to Tmo as has been suggested. To do anything less is theft.

If it was my phone, I would activate the mobile security app on the phone and track you down and then the police would arrest you for stealing my phone. But that's just me. By the way, mobile security comes free on most t mobile phones with the correct insurance. I wouldn't risk being labeled as a thief, even if you did somehow "find" it.

jgalan14 said:
It won't work after black listed so be careful I would try to take it to tmobile store to
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I can make a black listed phone from t-mobile work again with t-mobile not gonna say how but it's possible ....
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What Should I Do?

On Nov 6th I met up with someone at Starbucks from Craigslist to purchase the Galaxy Note 2 for $450 with box charger and instructions. I checked the esn number and it was clean. I inserted my sim card and was able to use the phone. On Friday Dec 28th, my phone all of sudden couldn't go on the web using 4g and I couldn't make and receive incoming calls. I called T-Mobile using a landline and they said my imei has been blocked. I went to the T-Mobile store and paid $50+ tax to use a loaner phone because I can't be without a phone. Today T-Mobile told me that this phone can't be activated due to equipment installment program. What should I do? Should I sell this phone on eBay and specify that this imei is blacklisted? Maybe someone from around the world could use this phone unlocked. Right now the phone is LOCKED. Should unlocking be my expense or should it be the buyers expense to unlock this phone? Should I use the money I get from selling this device to buy a brand new galaxy note 2?
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Track down the creep who sold it to you and get your money back. Call him and let him know you have contacted the police and they are reviewing the tape from Starbucks and you fully expect to get your money back. Have him meet you at the police station for the refund.
Hey, may not work but worth a try. I'd rattle the hell out of him and would not leave him alone. He knew what he was up to and essentially stole your money. That's not ok.
Outside of saber rattling, it's now your problem. If you like the device enough, just pay whatever T-Mo needs to get it turned back on. You got a good price so whatever they need should still be cheaper than buying a new one.
Edit: well, who knows what T-Mobile needs paid. It may be worth it to just sell as blacklisted and call it a day.

The person who sold me the phone is the only one could make payments toward the phone. Its a lady that sold me the phone.
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awesomedeals88 said:
The person who sold me the phone is the only one could make payments toward the phone. Its a lady that sold me the phone.
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Have you contacted the lady to talk it over and understand why she did what she did?

This type of transaction is becoming a problem with tmobile phones.
Making sure esn number is clean is one thing. Make sure its not on a value plan.
I hope op gets this sorted out.
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Yea you got scammed bad. That sucks major big time
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Call me an extremist but if I were in this situation, the police would be involved & I'd be pressing fraud charges against that douchebag. Or, I'd be taking that seller to small claims court.
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U got a note 2 for 450? You should have seen this coming.
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When I sell the phone on eBay, should I pay to have the sim unlocked or should I let the buyer pay to have the sim unlocked?
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awesomedeals88 said:
When I sell the phone on eBay, should I pay to have the sim unlocked or should I let the buyer pay to have the sim unlocked?
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Just do it yourself... follow instructions from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2014982

This is the second time I am hearing of this. I blame tmobile. If you call them to ask if the phone is clean to purchase and they tell you yes then it's their fault for not making sure it doesn't have any outstanding balance. To the Op you have yet to explain why you haven't contacted the seller. The other poster didn't try to contact the seller either. So either you are both idiots or maybe you are trying to figure out how to unlock a stolen phone. And please don't say you can't find the owner because tmobile had there information and with a push from the police they have to give it up.
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kozmo21 said:
Just do it yourself... follow instructions from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2014982
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Once I follow this procedure, how can I tell if the sim is unlocked if I don't have another sim to test it out?
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awesomedeals88 said:
Once I follow this procedure, how can I tell if the sim is unlocked if I don't have another sim to test it out?
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So instead of dealing with the person that sold you the phone you are going to unlock it? Once again I am calling BS on this and now you have people helping you unlock a phone that is not legally yours.

....... But unlocking won't unblock the IMEI o.0 Unless you're planning to use it on another carrier than Tmo, unlocking won't allow you to use the phone.
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This is the second time I am hearing of this. I blame tmobile. If you call them to ask if the phone is clean to purchase and they tell you yes then it's their fault for not making sure it doesn't have any outstanding balance. To the Op you have yet to explain why you haven't contacted the seller. The other poster didn't try to contact the seller either. So either you are both idiots or maybe you are trying to figure out how to unlock a stolen phone. And please don't say you can't find the owner because tmobile had there information and with a push from the police they have to give it up.
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I have to agree with this. Tmo wouldn't just tell you the phone was clear & then turn around & say "Oops, we meant to say it's blocked!" If they actually made a mistake when the OP first called in, he needs to escalate until they either unblock him or credit him for a comparable new phone. This whole story just smells funny. I know that if I had just dropped hundreds of dollars on a phone that I couldn't even use thanks to the seller's negligence/fraudulence, I'd be sitting in the police station filing a report within minutes of finding out it was blocked. I can't even imagine just saying "oh well, guess I got scammed!" about something like this. The OP is either incredibly rich & $450 is just pocket change, or else something is fishy here.
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My plan is to get the sim unlocked so I could sell internationally on eBay.
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awesomedeals88 said:
My plan is to get the sim unlocked so I could sell internationally on eBay.
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You boight a phone as is. Cops dont care that u got scammed. Lesson learned.as far as t mobile goes contact the better business Bureau and t mobile will step up and go after the lady who owned it. Plus unless u have phone conversation recoreded that is all on u. If it to good to be true......... well u know the rest.
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Never mind

kozmo21 said:
Just do it yourself... follow instructions from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2014982
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I agree with those who say you should hold the lady responsible. Contact her and see if she will make it good. If not, small claims courts is the way to go. I've done two small claims cases. Its easy and not expensive. Sounds like you have a solid case. Of course once you get a judgement you may have a problem collecting if she's a deadbeat. But if she's got an income you can force her to pay up. My 2 cents. Good luck.

Could this phone be activated on Straight Talk? Might be able to get most of your money back via CL if someone wants to use it on prepaid.
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