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[Q] Currently got a Desire, would you stick or twist? - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Hi all
Sorry if the mods think this question has been covered elsewhere but I don't think it has.
I currently have a Desire which has given me 18 months of solid use. I mainly use it for listening to podcasts on the loud speaker, email, Newsrob and Twitter. My main issues with it are the relatively poor battery (although alot better under CM7.1), tinny loudspeaker and the lack of memory for installing apps.
I really wanted a Galaxy Nexus until I started reading all the issues. Given that I want better battery life and a better loudspeaker would you get a Nexus or wait for something better to come along? Given that I'll be on a 24 month contract I'd be willing to wait 3 months
Thanks in advance
Oli

Honestly? I would love to tell you to buy the Nexus, but with all the issues at the minute (the volume ghost obviously being the main culprit) I would have to tell you to hang on to your Desire. At least until we get some kind of response from Google / Samsung letting us know what the problem is.
I was due to sell my Desire tomorrow, but I'm holding on to it for the time being as the Nexus is borderline unusable in low signal areas

I replaced my original HTC Desire with Nexus S ... and now Nexus S with Galaxy Nexus.
I hate the Desire, slow and small storage space.
Love my Nexus S, but ... I want a new toy !
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Btw, how much will you sell your Desire?
Just wondering if this kind of phone can still make some money
Shodney said:
Honestly? I would love to tell you to buy the Nexus, but with all the issues at the minute (the volume ghost obviously being the main culprit) I would have to tell you to hang on to your Desire. At least until we get some kind of response from Google / Samsung letting us know what the problem is.
I was due to sell my Desire tomorrow, but I'm holding on to it for the time being as the Nexus is borderline unusable in low signal areas
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oliroe said:
Hi all
Sorry if the mods think this question has been covered elsewhere but I don't think it has.
I currently have a Desire which has given me 18 months of solid use. I mainly use it for listening to podcasts on the loud speaker, email, Newsrob and Twitter. My main issues with it are the relatively poor battery (although alot better under CM7.1), tinny loudspeaker and the lack of memory for installing apps.
I really wanted a Galaxy Nexus until I started reading all the issues. Given that I want better battery life and a better loudspeaker would you get a Nexus or wait for something better to come along? Given that I'll be on a 24 month contract I'd be willing to wait 3 months
Thanks in advance
Oli
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Exactly the same issue....I have a desire too. I am contemplating the GS2 or Razr also...

If what you want mainly is a better battery life, then I would suggest getting an external battery pack. Likewise with speaker; get a portable external speaker. I highly doubt there are many phones out there that provide a very good internal speaker and when they do they are usually "media phones" that are not very useful for much else.
If you really don't want to carry all the extra gadgets around then I would actually suggest getting cheaper phones that are not top of the line. The problem is that top of the line phones just keep getting more powerful and battery-hogging while battery technology is just barely catching up, and you can see that all these new phones are barely getting through a day with heavy use.
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Btw, how much will you sell your Desire?
Just wondering if this kind of phone can still make some money
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I was just going to send it off to one of those online recycling places, one offered my £105 for it.
I still have the box and everything, so when it comes round to it I may try my luck selling it elsewhere. I can't see getting much more for it though, tbh.

Not sure I can be bothered with ebay and Mazuma will give £90 for a working Desire.
I've already got a 5000mah external battery and a portable speaker but they are hardly ideal to carry around permanently.
I'm definitely going to wait until the volume issue is sorted as the Nexus seems pretty unuseable at the moment

Thing is that you will have the same questions in another 6 months time.
My last Android phone was a Desire and I loved it, but sold it 10 months ago because I just use my iPhone more.
But dropped for the Nexus last week and its a real step up. Can't say its better than a GS2, and it does have some downsides, the battery being one of them. But I think this will hold you well for another 18 months.
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I'm in the same boat.. gonna wait until google/samsung respond.
I'm only going to get nexus devices now though, as Motorola have annoyed me with the xoom and the UK firmware debacle - lesson learnt is always try to get as clean a device as possible.

It's a shame really, because I absolutely love the device (and ICS) - it's a big step up from my Desire. Everything is just so much faster!
I just couldn't recommend buying one with such a big issue hanging over it. Hopefully we should get at least some kind of response from Google / Samsung today, which might clear things up

For me, the volume thing will get sorted, not a show stopper imho.
I'm sat with my 18 month old desire too wondering whether to make the jump.
I can't be having the sg2 as its got no LED notification, which rules out plenty of other phones too.
Stories coming out regarding battery usage on the GN are promising. Certainly on par and better than the Desire.
The GN camera cannot be any worse than the Desire, so as long as its as good as reported, although not world class, I will be happy enough. I have my dSLR for proper photos.
My biggest worry is the bloody size of the GN. Saw a mock up of it in P4U and it did seem big. LOL.
That's going to be the deciding factor. Size.
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zarch1972 said:
For me, the volume thing will get sorted, not a show stopper imho.
I'm sat with my 18 month old desire too wondering whether to make the jump.
I can't be having the sg2 as its got no LED notification, which rules out plenty of other phones too.
Stories coming out regarding battery usage on the GN are promising. Certainly on par and better than the Desire.
The GN camera cannot be any worse than the Desire, so as long as its as good as reported, although not world class, I will be happy enough. I have my dSLR for proper photos.
My biggest worry is the bloody size of the GN. Saw a mock up of it in P4U and it did seem big. LOL.
That's going to be the deciding factor. Size.
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I also have a Desire and its been a great phone for me, but fingers crossed tomorrow the postie will bring me a Galaxy Nexus.
I've held both the S2 and and GN, width wise they're the same, the GN is slightly taller. But I actually preferred the GN in my hand, it felt more solid due to it's metal construction inside therefore also making it very slightly heavier. The tapered curves also helped as it felt more comfortable to hold in comparison to the S2 which is a bit square.
The led notification is a big plus for me too.

Im also thorn between the galaxy s2 and the galaxy nexus. I have faith in the software issues being sorted out, but when it comes down to camera quality and what not, I'm leaning more towards the S2 atm. Especially because its quite a bit cheaper, while having better hardware in some aspects as well. Hm...
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Just traded up from a desire to the nexus. Go for it ! No regrets at all.
Battery bettery than desire.
Screen is fantastic.
Sound via headphones much better than desire.
Feels substantial (like my desire did).... more so than the gs2.
One thing i miss is the optical trackpad but not a dealbreaker.
I posted a thread about my thoughts moving upbfrom desire.
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..... oh and its lightening fast !

I am selling my alt phone, (mt4G) hope this phone makes a decent upgrade.
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wilbur-force said:
Just traded up from a desire to the nexus. Go for it ! No regrets at all.
Battery bettery than desire.
Screen is fantastic.
Sound via headphones much better than desire.
Feels substantial (like my desire did).... more so than the gs2.
One thing i miss is the optical trackpad but not a dealbreaker.
I posted a thread about my thoughts moving upbfrom desire.
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..... oh and its lightening fast !
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Thanks for that, could you let me know how the loudspeaker compares?
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Thanks for that, could you let me know how the loudspeaker compares?
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always found the loudspeaker on my desire quite quiet. nexus seems louder although not as loud as my wifes experia.
headphone quality blows the desire away ! especially with some (built in) equaliser tweaks !

wilbur-force - what equalizer? Built in? I don't see anything...?
On topic though, I've upgraded from the Desire which I've had for 18 months to the Galaxy Nexus and I love it! I've not had any probs with the sound fault being talked about, so I can only say from my perspective, it's not a fair reflection on the phone.
The screen however, looks gorgeous, so much clearer and detailed than the Desire. And the speed? Brilliant! I had apps on my Desire which I thought were running slow due to internet connections.. I realize now that it was the phone. Everything runs so quickly on the Nexus. I also love being able to download all the apps I want without having to juggle what little memory space I have left.
The sound is also great on the Nexus. Through headphones (I use Sennheiser CX680i with my phone), the music's loud, clear and sharp. The loud speaker, though nothing particularly special, does seems louder and clearer than the Desire which I always thought was a bit muffled.
The interface looks good, much smarter and modern than Android 2.3, in part because of the screen quality, but all the layouts have been updated and made to look nicer, and somewhat like the new style of the Google websites. Only problem I do have is sometimes when trying to press an app by pressing the bottom of the screen, I catch the home button instead. Minor problem and it's something I'll get used to, but I do miss my buttons, especially the search button!
Overall, well chuffed with it. It looks good, feels good, and it's great to use. I'd recommend upgrading
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Just one more thought to bare in mind, I'm finding a few apps I had on my Desire aren't available off the Market for the Nexus.
I assume that this is just a temporary niggle till devs catch up, but something else to consider so early on in the phones life cycle

Desire-Upgraders.....
Camera far better?
Battery life better?
I can't get over the size of it.... might have to head to a shop and have another hold to convince myself.

battery better even tho its not run in yet or smartass clocked.
Camera better
Equaliser ...... while playing music... settings and sound effects.

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Curious the opinion of real owners of a Galaxy-Nexus, are you happy with your purchase ? Is it your favorite Android phone of all time ? I know only the European owners can tell me about the phone, which is slightly different than the CDMA version coming to the U.S., but overall do you like the new Nexus ?
I am looking to possibly leave the U.S. carrier Sprint, I have their Galaxy S 2, rooted with nice ROM, LOVE this phone, but hate Sprint service. Last few Sprint phones my Wife and Brother have as well, the worst network this year, 3G speeds in Chicago are like 1x Edge speeds at best, texting and receiving pictures is a pain, half don't go through, dropped calls have been happening more often the last couple of months.
So I might make the switch to Verizon, everyone I know with Verizon service swear by it as being rock solid, #1 call service, no dropped calls, very solid network. I use my phone a lot for business, and need a network that is faster and more stable.
And I am a huge Android fan, owned both the Nexus-One and Nexus-S 4G, and those were my favorite Android phones at the time I owned those. But Sprint is killing me.

It's a very solid device! You won't be disappointed!

Yes.
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I have had my SGN for a few days now. I got it from Expansys, who provided extremely good service in getting it to me! I am still learning how to use Android (this is my first android so it is slow learning ).
But the large, bright screen, ability to enlarge text (so my weak eyes can read it), ease of use, is a winner for me. So far, I have not run into any problems, so I am real pleased!

Extremely happy! I've been on android since getting the G1 on day one. This is by far the best device I've ever owned. You can look at all the youtube videos and reviews you want but once you get the phone in your hands you'll be blown away!

Love the device.
Hard to know whether it's ICS or the phone itself which stands out. ICS was very good on the Nexus S, but only really played with it as an SDK port. Hopefully will have chance to play with my old S when it officially gets ICS.
The screen (despite the weirdness on low brightness) is stunning, the OS is incredibly smooth and slick - it impresses me MUCH more than iOS which I've always loved for it's transitions and smoothness. Web browsing is also excellent - incredibly fast. Call and Audio quality are also excellent
The only drawback is that it's a little on the large side (sometimes hard to grab the notification bar with one hand)
I've come from the Nexus S, I'm not sure a GSII (once it gets ICS) would be much of a noticeable/fantastic upgrade though. Maybe more a sidegrade - although the shape of the GN, lack of hard/soft buttons & Screen curve do make it look massively pretty. It's also MUCH less common than the GSII & comes with pure Android - definitely a plus!
You won't be unhappy upgrading from a 2.3.x GS2 but as soon as the ICS official or custom ROM's hit it may well be a closer call!

Have had my GN for 9 days now and loving it. I have no regrets on buying it and highly enjoy both the hardware and vanilla android.
I do see what people say if the screen brightness is really low its doesn't look that great but I typically keep my screen set at 50% so its not a issue for me.
If I had to really point out a single thing that is probably the biggest drawback is the damn speaker is so quiet its basically useless unless your in a quiet environment. Driving down the highway with the music on quietly (drive a 08' bmw and its quiet inside) theres only a couple ringtones that are barely audible. My iphone speaker was loud enough to hear in all but the loudest places.

galaxy nexus
Love the screen love the size, the Chrome type browser is fantastic, however there are issues, why would you launch a new phone with no manual.Customer care at Samsung are unaware of the model of phone. The bug volume bug is now fixed but there is no flash which is ridicolous one of the primary reasons you chose android. Also the phone dialler ui is crap its all over the place and its complicated just for the sake if it.. Iam used to htc phones and in my opinion the tweak to the original ui is just the most simplistic thing to use..

I LOVE it! Especially when you can go to Wal Mart and get on a T-Mobile $30/m prepaid plan that gives you unlimited data and texts and 100 minutes with no contract, you'll end up breaking even in no time from Sprint.

It's not perfect but it's a fantastic device. Easily the best I've ever owned. Very happy with it.
I only wish they included gorilla glass. People can laugh at gorilla glass all they want but the fact for me is, my nexus already has 3 scratches on it. While my 1.5 y/o vibrant still looks brand spanking new.

Some who are coming from a GSII are disappointed. But that's really a lateral move, so otherwise, quite fantastic!
Very zippy. A great improvement over my N1 in terms of speed and function. Though I will miss the illuminated LED trackball.

What about voice/call quality!?
For example - huge improvement with a Razr over my ole' Droid Incredible.
What about the GNex?

seanmcd72 said:
What about voice/call quality!?
For example - huge improvement with a Razr over my ole' Droid Incredible.
What about the GNex?
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my experience i find it better than the nexus s...

I had a galaxy s II and I enjoy the nexus more..
The Galaxy Nexus feels a lot better in the hand.. and I love the display and I particularly enjoy the lack of capacitive buttons on the front. Just staring at a 4.65" monolithic display with nothing to break up the sleek look.
Ice Cream Sandwich is really what brings it all together for me, though.. it's such a huge improvement over gingerbread.. it's hard for me to use the gmail app on gingerbread now..
This is easily the best android device I've ever owned.. even though the Galaxy S II has better specs, this device feels like it is in another league to me.

How are the network/wifi speeds? Is it 4G capable? Still trying to choose between this and the LG Optimus LTE.

I am really considering getting a Nexus to upgrade from my HTC Desire but I'm not sure if I should wait for a mobile phone with better hardware specifications (e.g. Quad-core processors) to be released if that is the case very soon or if I should just go with the Nexus.
I think it would be a big upgrade from my awesome Desire. The idea of a stock Android Google/Samsung phone makes things very exciting, as well. The only thing holding me back are the reviews going on about how the Nexus is the best Android phone on the market but isn't good enough to be a flagship phone because of it's hardware but it appears to be a wonderful device.
Did anyone here that owns a GSN come from a phone like the HTC Desire at all? I am trying to figure out this years Christmas gift to myself, you see!
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I am really considering getting a Nexus to upgrade from my HTC Desire but I'm not sure if I should wait for a mobile phone with better hardware specifications (e.g. Quad-core processors) to be released if that is the case very soon or if I should just go with the Nexus.
I think it would be a big upgrade from my awesome Desire. The idea of a stock Android Google/Samsung phone makes things very exciting, as well. The only thing holding me back are the reviews going on about how the Nexus is the best Android phone on the market but isn't good enough to be a flagship phone because of it's hardware but it appears to be a wonderful device.
Did anyone here that owns a GSN come from a phone like the HTC Desire at all? I am trying to figure out this years Christmas gift to myself, you see!
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UPGRADE I had an Inspire (a model up i think) and this phone is a HUGE upgrade! besides there wont be another nexus device for a good while yet so you will have less development options on them.

overall yes.
I'm looking forward to a lot of apps being updated to function on ics.
I don't get the same speeds as I was pulling on my skyrocket, but I would never know if I didn't run speedtest. My google music and everything else runs fast and smooth.

no regrets...

I'm very happy. The only bad thing abt the phone. It's written Samsung at the back...
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I had this question recently for the sgs2 forum and was set when I find out att doesnt have them no more, and almost leaned towards the note or sgs2 skyrocket today when I had the most aggravating time with att csr where my upgrade date was changed for no apparent reason so I'm done with att and contracts but thats nor here nor there. Yes I tried to find these devices on craigslist but nothing went through and I rather save myself the aggravation with used devices from people that did who knows what to them.
So my main reason for even thinking of the sgs2 was for the dev support. And I know this device has some great dev support but the reputation for this device isnt the greatest like the screen and camera I believe. So with that being said is it worth the $400 for a new one?

Absolutely it's worth $400. If you want to put it in perspective a bit, yeah it's not as good as the GS3, BUT, it's about 90% as good for 50% of the price. As far as bang for your buck goes, it doesn't get any better without signing two years away.

Yup.

$400 for the GSM model is a really good price IMO.

I guess ordering one this weekend would be useless due to the holiday?
Also, what kind of benchmarks are you guys getting with the custom roms?
And I hardly hear any talk about the led notifications? Do any roms take advantage of them, I mean do they work well with different types of alerts like say just one color for google voice texts?

I think is worth I got a htc one s(had a sprint galaxy nexus loved the phone hated the network) so I got tmobile and I'm gonna sell my sprint gnex and get me a galaxy nexus unlocked the one s camera is really good and sense has improved but man this phone feels faster and with tmobile speeds I'm hooked

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Well might as well order so it ships out ASAP on Tuesday.
Also, what kind of benchmarks are you guys getting with the custom roms?
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Benchmarks are pointless.
And I hardly hear any talk about the led notifications? Do any roms take advantage of them, I mean do they work well with different types of alerts like say just one color for google voice texts?
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The stock ROM offers limited LED control app-by-app. Some ROMs have LED control with more granularity. Most people are using Light Flow to control their LED. It works extremely well. You can configure everything.

I wouldn't pay 10 pounds for this phone!!! Google doesn't care about this nexus!!!
Sorry I forgot , this is no phone because u can't make a call after 20 attempts or receive a call )
So its more like a mini tablet )
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Mine is working quite nicely. I'd highly recommend it over others at $600-$700 for sure.

I will never buy a carrier device again after owning a Nexus device. I will get updates beyond what any carrier will offer so my $400 device is worth more than any $2-300 subsidized device.
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As others have said for $400 its a wonderful deal. I got mine 3 months ago for $450. That being said the screen on devices like the OneX look nicer.
For that price, you cant really argue. I love the stock android experience and getting updates direct from Google. There's a really active development community for this phone (and the other nexus devices for that matter) and i've been able to check out a lot of custom roms and kernels.
Go for it

It's obviously still a relevant device if the OP is still thinking about this device compared to what's out there.
It's a great device at a great price. Not much to really say.
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With all due respect benchmarks are not pointless or else people wouldnt use them at all. Its not a black or white issue. Its a bit more complex than that. When used properly they can serve to paint a generalized picture of performance for any given device. Admittedly they can also be manipulated to post huge numbers that do not reflect real world performance. They can also be used as a tool to diagnose or confirm a performance issue. Now in no way am I suggesting that these benchmarks are the be all end all but they surely are not pointless.
A while back I posted in a thread regarding this topic and asked the participants to explain to me a way that would ensure accurate results when testing our devices. No one responded, probably because nobody cares. It seems there two kinds of people here with regards to benchmarks. Those who use them and those who do not. And I have yet to see any rational discussion on this topic. not that im looking for it.
Anyways My Gnex scored a 6801 on AnTuTu
GNEX- Running AKOP 4.04 with Francos Kernel overclocked to 1344MHz

What's not to like? I have had this phone for a few months now, rooted it the first day and am running all kinds of ROMS and Kernels. I guess if you are running stock and wait for Google or carrier updates you may get a bit frustrated but I have had a great experience with it.
The camera controversy is silly. 5MP vs 8mp on a "flat lens" with a cell phone processor to me is not detectable (IMHO). I carry a DSLR to get my high quality pictures not the phone.
My only complaint has always been battery life. Coming from a Thunderbolt with a very large extended battery and a smaller screen, I routinely run out battery. But this phone has a large beautiful screen and that screen eats power. So I bought this
http://www.amazon.com/New-Trent-IMP1000-Thunderbolt-Blackberry/dp/B003ZBZ64Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338036621&sr=8-1
and my problems are solved. But performance wise, looks wise, and reliability wise, this phone is awesome. Just run the latest rom (AOKP), kernel(franco), radio (FC04/05) and you'll be fine.

First android device ive owned that ive not felt the need to root or flash a custom rom on.
Very fast and smooth phone.
Stock ICS looks so much nicer than any of the skins out there.
Ive ordered my wife an SGS 3 and im not even a little bit jealous. The novelties that it adds like pop up play i already have on my phone from a free app on the play store.
The hold your phone to your ear from a message to call can be added though smart gestures.
Tried S voice on my phone and i honestly think that speaktoit assistant is better so i deleted the S voice. ( before it was patched )
2 of my friends have One X and i hate the new sense. The only thing i like from the newer phones is the burst mode which again can be added through an app.
The Galaxy Nexus will recieve much better support than other phones obviously in case you care about that.
Great phone and i plan on keep it for quite a while.
Edit: Oh yeah and use light flow for the notification light. I have blue for sms... Green for Gmail... Red for missed call... Yellow for Gtalk etc etc. Again another free app

How about the onscreen buttons , is that hard to get used to?

I upgraded from an og EVO4g and after this I will never use anything but a Nexus phone ever again. LightFlow unlocks all of the LED notification colors, and the 5mp camera on this phone blows the 8mp camera of my Evo out of the water.

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For a few hours maybe but once you get used to is hard to go back to capacity buttons
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Not hard to get used to, but then I've had a Honeycomb tablet for about a year.
This phone is undeniably worth the $400. I'm getting the GS3 for my husband, and I'm not even jealous.

other than the dodgy radio's it's the best phone ive had soo far. runs ics as it's suppose to be.

Yes, I mean, it was sort of a fun entertainment to be on a market for a new phone... looking for a better this, upgrading that...
But, with the GNex?
I feel like there's nothing better worth looking for... maybe I'm just easy to please, but I have the feeling that changing the phone would most likely bring me something worse.
I mean, not only for the current phones, but even for the ones to come!!
A faster processor? FASTER??
A better screen? BETTER????
Maybe a better camera, but, come on, is that really noticeable the difference with others phone's camera?
A larger display? Yes, but It's going to loose portability...
A better battery life... but for that you need a better battery, not a better phone!
OMG, will I have to stick whit the GNex forever?
Is there anybody out there feeling the same way?

I thought that about my Xperia Play too. I'll give it the fact it's the only phone I didn't sell when I got a new one, but the GNex was too tempting. I'm sure the new Nexus will be tempting as well.
As a side note I still use my XPlay for games. I just can't stand playing most of them on my Nexus.

lazol said:
Yes, I mean, it was sort of a fun entertainment to be on a market for a new phone... looking for a better this, upgrading that...
But, with the GNex?
I feel like there's nothing better worth looking for... maybe I'm just easy to please, but I have the feeling that changing the phone would most likely bring me something worse.
I mean, not only for the current phones, but even for the ones to come!!
A faster processor? FASTER??
A better screen? BETTER????
Maybe a better camera, but, come on, is that really noticeable the difference with others phone's camera?
A larger display? Yes, but It's going to loose portability...
A better battery life... but for that you need a better battery, not a better phone!
OMG, will I have to stick whit the GNex forever?
Is there anybody out there feeling the same way?
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I want a Nexus with a smaller screen, so shoot me. There are still tons of UI elements that are at the top of the screen and even my large hands (thumb) has trouble reaching the top without shifting the phone in my hand.
Now if they abandon clickables at the top of the screen (and even mandate it in dev guidelines), I'd switch my stance.

Im contemplating on buying the original nexus one LOL. You can still purchase them brand spanking new and there are Jelly Bean builds for them.

At the moment I agree that there's nothing out there I'd rather want than a GNex. I just can't leave the pure Google experience now that I'm used to it, and I also really like the physical design of the phone with its completely featureless front. But that doesn't mean the GNex is perfect.
The screen, while nice, could definitely be better. It's a pentile matrix display which, while not all that noticeable at 720p, is clearly worse than a true RGB display. Solid red colors (such as the battery indicator when the battery is low) look pretty damn fuzzy and bad. Beyond that, the screen is also pretty "grainy" (especially noticable at low brightness), not perfectly uniform (faint vertical lines, etc), and is also pretty prone to burn-in.
The camera is bad. Ok, it takes perfectly acceptable pictures with good lighting (outdoors during daytime), but as soon as it's a little too dark the pictures come out rather terrible.
The GPU is pretty weak, especially compared to what's out there now, but even compared to something like the SGS2.
The touch screen loses sensitivity in certain situations (usually after the recent apps menu has been used). Very common issue (although it might be entirely software-related).
Rather weak signal reception compared to many other phones, both when it comes to the cell radio and Wi-Fi.
The speaker is not loud enough, and many (if not most) also have an issue with it "popping" quietly every time a sound has played.
Battery life is ok, but certainly not exceptional.
The battery door is really flimsy, and brings the phone's feeling of build quality and sturdyness down quite a bit.
So again, while there's no phone out there I'd rather have right now, the GNex is far from perfect.

Only thing I could care about improving is the battery life and GPU.

It could use a much better screen.
A much better speaker.
A faster soc built on a smaller process and next gen GPU.
Above point helps battery life. And any phone could use always use more battery life.
A much better DAC ( audio chip)
And so on. Phone internals can always be improved. Doesn't mean what's in it is junk but this industry moves at a crazy pace.

Well personally I would not trade my nexus for any other current handset.
When I sold my note recently, I had a choice and could have gotten any other current handset. But the nexus was the only one I wanted. And in white!
Stock 4.1 is awesome. The screen and size is very good. Battery life is also very handy I'm finding.
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i think i will maintain my maguro for at least 2 more major versions, if hardware keeps functioning 100%.
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Until yesterday I used my S3 with CM10 as a daily device. After the CM10 debacle that unfolded a couple of days ago and me not really liking TouchWiz I decided to get me a GNex. I'm a real happy camper now and I'm staying with this device until the next nexus comes out.

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Until yesterday I used my S3 with CM10 as a daily device. After the CM10 debacle that unfolded a couple of days ago and me not really liking TouchWiz I decided to get me a GNex. I'm a real happy camper now and I'm staying with this device until the next nexus comes out.
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Next month

kong said:
Next month
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So be it
I learned my lesson. I will stick to Nexus devices from now on.

markdudier said:
Until yesterday I used my S3 with CM10 as a daily device. After the CM10 debacle that unfolded a couple of days ago and me not really liking TouchWiz I decided to get me a GNex. I'm a real happy camper now and I'm staying with this device until the next nexus comes out.
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May i ask what debacle your talking about? Sounds interesting
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maisi said:
May i ask what debacle your talking about? Sounds interesting
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As far as I understood the debacle that caused codeworx to leave the CM10 development for S3 was due to Samsung denying them access to documents and source code to make crucial components work correctly. This includes: bluetooth/wifi tethering not working, GPU hardware drivers for project butter, battery drain etc.
The Wifi tethering is important to me, so I didn't want to wait any longer.
I'm sure you have seen this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTRKL5E9Iak
And this: http://www.androidnext.de/schwerpunkt/codeworkx-cyanogenmod-interview-english/

markdudier said:
So be it
I learned my lesson. I will stick to Nexus devices from now on.
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Lol, same for me.

markdudier said:
So be it
I learned my lesson. I will stick to Nexus devices from now on.
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Couldn't have said it better
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I did say to myself that I wouldn't get anything that wasn't a Nexus after getting my GNex last November but my contract for my HTC Desire is up and I can move to a better plan with a new phone, something like the Galaxy S III 4G... I think I might still stick to the GNex but damn is the S III tempting, especially when 4G is becoming more prominent in Australia.
Tell me not to cave in! Make it so! I don't need anything other than my GNex! Haha... it is away for repairs at the moment, mind you. Had the 'headset always plugged in' issue and makes using the phone frustrating. Can't wait to have it back... my Desire feels so freaking slow in comparison to it!

I fully agree with first post !
the GNexus is my third android phone and it is the best i've ever have. Nice hardware, design and full of nice roms ^^. I'm planning to buy one for my girlfriend (currently running an old Galaxy i9000) and with his low price, that's a great deal ! His hardware may handle a lot of new android version without any problems, so why change ?
After almost one year of release, there are few phones on 720p, and it's the only to run JB natively (i think).
AND at last i hate the idea of a nexus by LG. i've got some of their featurephones (lg viewty and renoir) but they totally missed the android turn. Samsung does good job with nexus device atm.

So here's the deal with me, I have been boggled by the same question since a very long time. But apparently the nexus's price helped me make the decision.
But then came the rumors of a new Nexus in the mill, coming up in a month's time and I am back to where i was 2 months back. I am supposed to order the phone from the states, which is to be sent to me around the end of november. Now the problem i face is just the same, wait for the new one or just get Gnex. Sure i am getting the phone in november so it seems i can wait, but seemingly the problem is much more complicated.
Gnex is sold online only. And same would be the case with the new one i suppose. So if i wait for the new one and it gets released by the end of oct. I can be happy that it will be delivered long before end of november. However, if the phone is released in oct and sold somewhere in nov., with so many orders that come in for the new phone, wouldn't that delay the shipment and surpass the november end deadline i have in mind?
And even if i still take the chances of waiting till the last moment before ordering the GNEX, till what time can i wait considering i should i have some buffer time between ordering and shipment so that i dont miss novemeber end deadline?
And one more thing, since this will be a new nexus, it may have issues as well. Ofcourse we cant be sure of those but what is the probability of those issues to be deal breaker?

I agree. There's no Android phone that even comes close to the latest Nexus, so I stopped looking at other Android handsets a while ago.
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hey Guys here at HTC..im just from the other door here from the galaxy phone
Been using and modding s1 and s2 for long...but i was Always an ericsson user before that, and im kinda in love with the new xperia display and everything else...
So over to the s2, i want to replace also being tired with galaxy,so far i was checking the reviews and found the ONE-X..
So what are your thoughts...should I go for the htc one x,x+ or S or the acro S?
or any other thoughts?

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hey Guys here at HTC..im just from the other door here from the galaxy phone
Been using and modding s1 and s2 for long...but i was Always an ericsson user before that, and im kinda in love with the new xperia display and everything else...
So over to the s2, i want to replace also being tired with galaxy,so far i was checking the reviews and found the ONE-X..
So what are your thoughts...should I go for the htc one x,x+ or S or the acro S?
or any other thoughts?
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I've got the One X and it's brilliant! but if I didn't I would be going for the One X+ ....I still might!

Definitely wait for the One X+. If you liked the Xperia display you'll like SLCD2 probably in my eyes the best screen so far this year. Sure blacks are not as deep as on AMOLED but everything else is top notch.
64gb on the One X+ ample space, very good camera for a phone probably behind the great of Nokia but still good.
It's a good phone and Jellybean does make it improve a lot more than it did when the HOX first came out.
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im currently using a moto defy right now, and im planning an upgrade. im hesitating between the x and the x+. 32gb is quite wnoigh for me, especially when usb otg is working, so i wouldnt miss the 64gb version. my only concern is the battery, but i was thinking that i could underclock the one x to 1.2ghz (i dont need gaming performance, and a 1.2ghz tegra3 can still handle the ui without lags), so the battery wouldnt be a big problem either, right?
i mean, i can get the x for around 415 euros, and the x+ will launch for 595 euros... its not worth the money, is it?
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I Have One X a week before One X+ was introduced, little bit dissapointed, but it's One X it's still the superphone, so i just had a little disappointed no problemo. But if you had not bought it, i think waiting & buy One X+ would be nice..
One X+ has larger battery capacity, maybe due to it's increase in procie specification, but HTC said it has longer battery so it must be right

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I Have One X a week before One X+ was introduced, little bit dissapointed, but it's One X it's still the superphone, so i just had a little disappointed no problemo. But if you had not bought it, i think waiting & buy One X+ would be nice..
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Me also, I was a bit disappointed when I had already had bought the phone, was reading and watching reviews comparing it to the S3 and the Samsung always winning, battery life being the biggest problem.
BUT I got the phone already with the 4.0.4 ICS and the Sense 4.1 upgrade. It makes it a totally different phone from what it was when it was first released. I think it's lightning fast and the battery lasts me more than a day, easily. There aren't many reviews comparing it to the S3 with this upgrade but the ones that exist show that they are very close matched nowadays.
I guess it depends on the kind of use you give your phone. I don't play games so I don't eat tones of battery life that way. 32GB of storage are more than enough for me as I don't use it to listen to music and I can upload photos and videos from the phone and then delete them, so I don't need the 64GB of the OneX+.
So, in my opinion, the extra money that the One X+ is going to cost is not something I would find worth it. Essentially I would be paying for a bigger battery when I feel mine is just fine, extra storage that I don't really need and the novelty factor that I don't care about. Coming to the One X from a Galaxy S, the extra money would make me consider the S3 that already has a huge battery (and the possibility of a back up) and virtually infinite storage space because you do get to use external SD cards. Honestly, now that I own the HOX, I don't regret one bit not having bought the S3. The HTC feels much better, the screen is amazing and the Sense software might be less intuitive than Samsung's but it's a lot more down to earth and direct.
Oh, and you'll probably be getting a few good deals on the HOX when the One X+ is released, as that is going to be the flagship and the latest thing.

i must egree with you, but reading the forums around here i see that quite many people have problems with the wifi adapter in the hox, and thats fixed in the hox+. i dont wanna end up bringing my phone back for repair every week or two, and i certainly dont want to disassemble it (at first ). how common are these wifi issues?
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Get the One X if you use it moderatley, I mean, I use my phone all the time, and I NEVER go a day where the battery dies, its always still green when I get into bed and put it on charge. You said you don't need gaming graphics etc, so I guess you don't play much games.
THE ONE X WOULD DEFFO BE THE BEST FOR YOU, AND IT WILL SAVE YOU MONEY

oh well i need all of them
I need a good music phone, good graphic for some vdos and a few games may be, good battery too and internet...
So many great posts you guys made and i felt homely and friendly
anything more? :good:

angry_machine said:
oh well i need all of them
I need a good music phone, good graphic for some vdos and a few games may be, good battery too and internet...
So many great posts you guys made and i felt homely and friendly
anything more? :good:
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I suggest you wait a little longer and buy hox+!
Bigger battery, faster (1.7ghz) and bigger space to store your stuff..
I have hox and I love it so much!
It's clearly you're in hox thread so probably you'll get biased review
but if this is what you're looking for an answer, then get hox or wait for hox+! Jyeah... :good::good::good:

I am also really stuck with this HOX vs HOX+ i mean is a extra £100 really worth it. I mean I dont think think I will ever use 64gb memory and I am hearing the HOX battery last more than a day.
What I want to know is the camera quality better on the HOX+ does anyone know.
Also has the 24fps video recording been improved to 29fps or is that under jelly bean.
I am not really thinking the HOX+ is worth the extra £100

I don't know how many phones have the wifi problem but I'm sure they are not many. I've read this before and it seems it's only a potential problem for models that were assembled in China.
Don't think this is a particular problem with HTC though, I was just looking at O2 forum yesterday regarding future ROM releases (unfortunately I'm stuck with a branded phone). They don't have a one device/one forum thing, it's an IPhone/Android forum. I've seen multiple threads about people complaining about problems with the S3 wifi.
In my case, the wifi signal is waaaaayyyy better than my previous Galaxy S. Camera also, it's an amazing piece of hardware. And I mean hardware because whatever might be a limit because of software, you can probably fix with an app or kernell or whatever. The HOX is powerful enough to record videos with 29fps... the S3 does it, so why not the HOX? It's probably one of the things that will be addressed on the Sense 4+ update that will come out with JB.
All in all, and for my kind of use, the HOX is wonderful. I wouldn't pay 100 quid more for the HOX+, even with the faster processor (I wasn't aware of that). I bought it from a friend that got one free from O2 and got a good(ish) deal on it. If not, and even now, I would be thinking about HOX vs S3. I would probably end up buying the S3 and I wouldn't even know what I've missed. No regrets at all. :good:

I didnt understand the last part of your post, are you planning on buying a s3 is that what your saying.

really my only problem with HOX is that wifi problem, but if its not that common after all, ill probably stick with it. if it has a good enough battery, and no wifi problems, than its perfect. ill probably underclock it anyway a bit, to squeeze a bit more juice out of the battery
and by the way, the HOX+ is not even released yet, and we already have a 100$ difference. i think we can expect a drop in HOXs price, so that gap may even get wider. so no, its not worth the extra money. thank you guys for helping me/us out, and see you soon on these forums!

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really my only problem with HOX is that wifi problem, but if its not that common after all, ill probably stick with it. if it has a good enough battery, and no wifi problems, than its perfect. ill probably underclock it anyway a bit, to squeeze a bit more juice out of the battery
and by the way, the HOX+ is not even released yet, and we already have a 100$ difference. i think we can expect a drop in HOXs price, so that gap may even get wider. so no, its not worth the extra money. thank you guys for helping me/us out, and see you soon on these forums!
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You'll love it. It's sexy, different and well getting better with each software update
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I didnt understand the last part of your post, are you planning on buying a s3 is that what your saying.
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Sorry, grammar mistake... I meant I would most likely have bought the S3 because of older reviews and less advertising from HTC. I didn't even knew about the HOX. Also because it would be a more logical upgrade... from an S to an S3. I've only looked into the HOX because that deal came up and I've saved 100 to 150 quid regarding the S3. I'm glad I did because the slightly better things on the S3 are not so important to me as the better things on the HOX (amazing display for example, like it a lot more than the led one on the S3).
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really my only problem with HOX is that wifi problem, but if its not that common after all, ill probably stick with it. if it has a good enough battery, and no wifi problems, than its perfect. ill probably underclock it anyway a bit, to squeeze a bit more juice out of the battery
and by the way, the HOX+ is not even released yet, and we already have a 100$ difference. i think we can expect a drop in HOXs price, so that gap may even get wider. so no, its not worth the extra money. thank you guys for helping me/us out, and see you soon on these forums!
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Good lad! I think it's a wise choice and trust me, you won't need an underclocking. I don't know how bad it was when it was first released but the current 4.0.4 gets you a lot of battery. I had three hours to kill today and spent most of that time browsing the internet. Made a few calls, replied to a few emails and sms. The phone was charged last night and was always on, wifi always on and at this hour (almost 24h later) I have 59% of battery left. Might not be the best but it's amazingly good in my book!

For me the HOX is the better phone, I mean I will miss the blue LED notification light but anyway. The HOX I will be able to watch videos whislt im in a call, take pics or videos whilst im in a call. Wont have restricted messages, where after 480 characters it turns my texts into mms, i also prefer HTCs keyboard, also when sending texts to multiple people i wont be restricted to 10 people at a time which is annoying.
Others features that are important to me on the HOX are beats audio sounds better than the S3s music player both on stock player and power amp.
Low light pictures are better, the HOXs screen is better. Also I like the fact that you can take pics in videos that you are watching. Tomorrow I am ordering my white HOX from expansys fro £380 I dont feel the HOX+ is worth a extra £94.

RWSAMHTC said:
For me the HOX is the better phone, I mean I will miss the blue LED notification light but anyway. The HOX I will be able to watch videos whislt im in a call, take pics or videos whilst im in a call. Wont have restricted messages, where after 480 characters it turns my texts into mms, i also prefer HTCs keyboard, also when sending texts to multiple people i wont be restricted to 10 people at a time which is annoying.
Others features that are important to me on the HOX are beats audio sounds better than the S3s music player both on stock player and power amp.
Low light pictures are better, the HOXs screen is better. Also I like the fact that you can take pics in videos that you are watching. Tomorrow I am ordering my white HOX from expansys fro £380 I dont feel the HOX+ is worth a extra £94.
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But you do have a led notification with the HOX... it's not blue though, it's red or green depending on what it is notifying you for ...
The camera is VERY good on low light conditions! That's what you get with that huge lens sticking out of the back of the case... much more light coming in.
Oh, one thing I'm not pleased so far is how low the external loudspeaker is on stuff like youtube. I think it's not the hardware's fault, I'm pretty sure that videos on the internet browser play much louder. I don't get a volume tab on youtube app and I suspect that's the problem... the default volume is too low for this phone.

Kutusov said:
But you do have a led notification with the HOX... it's not blue though, it's red or green depending on what it is notifying you for ...
The camera is VERY good on low light conditions! That's what you get with that huge lens sticking out of the back of the case... much more light coming in.
Oh, one thing I'm not pleased so far is how low the external loudspeaker is on stuff like youtube. I think it's not the hardware's fault, I'm pretty sure that videos on the internet browser play much louder. I don't get a volume tab on youtube app and I suspect that's the problem... the default volume is too low for this phone.
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for all phones, even on iphone youtube is quiet... :/
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zakoo2 said:
for all phones, even on iphone youtube is quiet... :/
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I've compared both just last weekend. The iphone 5 is much louder! Maybe there's a difference on the apps and we don't get a volume level thing on dorid's youtube? At least I can't find one and I can't remember how it was on previous versions...

Hello XDA Community,
I got my first smartphone in middle school. It was my first phone. The T-Mobile Shadow (Windows Mobile). I was 13 then. Now I'm 18, and in College. I spent my free time in doing the easy mods the community created. I got the MyTouch 3g as soon as it came out and started flashing roms. Then, the Nexus One came out and I immediately came up with a scheme to convince my sister to take my old phone so I could get the Nexus One. Anyways, I got it in 10th grade and life was sweet. I was happy. I became a "crack flasher". So I had the phone for a while and decided then to get the Galaxy S3.
As for the Galaxy S3...
I don't know about this phone. I've had it for less then a year. Obviously, I became an HTC fanboy growing up with HTC phones. My friends all got HTC phones. We all flashed roms and enjoyed ourselves. But when this phone came out, I had to make a hard decision. The removable battery, expandable storage (and T-Mobile availability) made it a good choice. It was unlike the HTC One X in those regards. (My friend got that phone) The HTC One just came out. I want it now.
Why?
Well I suppose I'm not that happy with the S3. I got a 64gb micro sd for it. I thought I could replace my ipod. I was so wrong. I hate all of the music players on Android. I regard music too highly to be happy with the Android music experience. Anyways, that's not going to change with any new Android phone. I've learned to live with that. The screen is nice, but it doesn't compare to other displays I've seen. I guess it's because I keep the DPI kind of low and expect crispness? The LG Nexus 4 has an amazing screen also and works very well. The biggest thing though, that I really dislike about this phone, is the build quality. I hate the plastic feeling. I hate the gloss and fingerprints. It feels so cheap. And, the UI isn't even liquid smooth. I've flashed a lot. I guess I'm comparing it to the Nexus 4 now, as I've played with that a bit. I've got very close to really quick, but I'm not satisfied. I paid a lot of money and invested my hopes in this technology but I'm not pleased.
I've found that throughout the time I've owned this phone, I've thought a lot of different things. I've considered Windows Phone, Blackberry, and even iPhone, just because I want something sexy that works well. But I'm an Android man.
I don't know if this is because deep down, I'm an HTC fanboy. Or if it's because I'm a Google fanboy and love Nexus phones (or a combination?). i hate these second thoughts I'm getting after such a long time of having the phone. It's not long enough to justify an upgrade. Am I cursed with being unimpressed forever growing up with so many innovations around me?
Do share your thoughts for me on this. I just wanted to share,
Cheers,
ywindlass

Tl;dr
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We all have our wish lists for that single, perfect phone. I know I certainly do. Whether it's the IPhone's/HTC's/Sony's great hardware/build quality, or the pure Android experience offered with Nexus, or Samsung's wide array of software features/apps, the "perfect" one.
I love technology and I love my smartphone. I love rooting, flashing, trying out a thousand different things on my phone. But why should I care about it (the smartphone) so much? Of course I have invested lots of money into my smartphone, but it's not healthy to be consumed so much by smartphone. I know I'm going a bit off-topic, but really I'm just trying to tell you, just get a phone for what it really was for, to call, to text. I know apps are so convenient nowadays because we have everything in a device, but sometimes it's not bad to do it old-fashioned.
Get a phone that you will use now and a while. Get a phone that can serve its purpose. While a phone may have many features or many apps, I highly doubt a student or a professional will find use for it every single hour of the day. Most of us I assume probably aren't developers, and even as hobbies, it shouldn't consume much time.

GG2012 said:
We all have our wish lists for that single, perfect phone. I know I certainly do. Whether it's the IPhone's/HTC's/Sony's great hardware/build quality, or the pure Android experience offered with Nexus, or Samsung's wide array of software features/apps, the "perfect" one.
I love technology and I love my smartphone. I love rooting, flashing, trying out a thousand different things on my phone. But why should I care about it (the smartphone) so much? Of course I have invested lots of money into my smartphone, but it's not healthy to be consumed so much by smartphone. I know I'm going a bit off-topic, but really I'm just trying to tell you, just get a phone for what it really was for, to call, to text. I know apps are so convenient nowadays because we have everything in a device, but sometimes it's not bad to do it old-fashioned.
Get a phone that you will use now and a while. Get a phone that can serve its purpose. While a phone may have many features or many apps, I highly doubt a student or a professional will find use for it every single hour of the day. Most of us I assume probably aren't developers, and even as hobbies, it shouldn't consume much time.
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This is by far the best advice I have seen on xda ...ever.
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ywindlass said:
Hello XDA Community,
I got my first smartphone in middle school. It was my first phone. The T-Mobile Shadow (Windows Mobile). I was 13 then. Now I'm 18, and in College. I spent my free time in doing the easy mods the community created. I got the MyTouch 3g as soon as it came out and started flashing roms. Then, the Nexus One came out and I immediately came up with a scheme to convince my sister to take my old phone so I could get the Nexus One. Anyways, I got it in 10th grade and life was sweet. I was happy. I became a "crack flasher". So I had the phone for a while and decided then to get the Galaxy S3.
As for the Galaxy S3...
I don't know about this phone. I've had it for less then a year. Obviously, I became an HTC fanboy growing up with HTC phones. My friends all got HTC phones. We all flashed roms and enjoyed ourselves. But when this phone came out, I had to make a hard decision. The removable battery, expandable storage (and T-Mobile availability) made it a good choice. It was unlike the HTC One X in those regards. (My friend got that phone) The HTC One just came out. I want it now.
Why?
Well I suppose I'm not that happy with the S3. I got a 64gb micro sd for it. I thought I could replace my ipod. I was so wrong. I hate all of the music players on Android. I regard music too highly to be happy with the Android music experience. Anyways, that's not going to change with any new Android phone. I've learned to live with that. The screen is nice, but it doesn't compare to other displays I've seen. I guess it's because I keep the DPI kind of low and expect crispness? The LG Nexus 4 has an amazing screen also and works very well. The biggest thing though, that I really dislike about this phone, is the build quality. I hate the plastic feeling. I hate the gloss and fingerprints. It feels so cheap. And, the UI isn't even liquid smooth. I've flashed a lot. I guess I'm comparing it to the Nexus 4 now, as I've played with that a bit. I've got very close to really quick, but I'm not satisfied. I paid a lot of money and invested my hopes in this technology but I'm not pleased.
I've found that throughout the time I've owned this phone, I've thought a lot of different things. I've considered Windows Phone, Blackberry, and even iPhone, just because I want something sexy that works well. But I'm an Android man.
I don't know if this is because deep down, I'm an HTC fanboy. Or if it's because I'm a Google fanboy and love Nexus phones (or a combination?). i hate these second thoughts I'm getting after such a long time of having the phone. It's not long enough to justify an upgrade. Am I cursed with being unimpressed forever growing up with so many innovations around me?
Do share your thoughts for me on this. I just wanted to share,
Cheers,
ywindlass
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Back when you were content with your phone(s), things were growing much slower than they are now. At the current rate that phones are being released, it's guaranteed that there will be a new and better phone that you will want within the first year. Companies don't want you to be content with a phone for too long. I bet Samsung has better features right now that could have been added to the s4, but they want to save those for the s5.
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I agree on almost all of your points. I've had my share of android phones (G1, Moto Charm, G2x, and now Galaxy S3) and I'm beginning to become disappointed with the experience of this phone compared to that of a newer android device or even an iPhone and it's been only 8 months since I've purchased it. I don't quite agree with you on the music issue as I'm a music junkie myself with a 7 gig library but poweramp has transformed my android music listening experience into a great one.
Back to the S3, I've found that the battery life and build quality have been very sub par for me. Plus the pentile display is nothing to rave about either. Being only a sophomore in high school and tied to my family's family plan on T-Mobile, I really don't have an option to switch. I desperately want a Note 2 or Nexus 4 but financially I'm screwed. Even with the Nexus 4's low price I'd have to wait for the rumored 32gb version for storage reasons but that'd set me back $400 for shipping and tax. The S3 isn't even worth that anymore used.
All in all, I feel as if I should've waited for the Note 2 or Nexus 4 before getting the S3. Don't get me wrong, it's an awesome device that's suits all of my needs fine but there are definitely better choices out there from the perspective of a critical tech junkie such as myself.
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You can see the phones I've had in my signature, all 3 Nokias were indestructible...the old flip phone, I threw it at a wall and it exploded into a million pieces, put it back together and the thing still works...man they really knew how to build phones...
The Nexus One was a great phone. I had to drop it and break the internal screen (oddly enough the outer glass didn't crack at all.). But it felt great in my hand, it was very solid and built well.
The Nexus S was kind of disappointing I have to say...Almost completely the same specs and I felt it wasn't built as well. I sold it for my GS-II
That stupid thing was the retarded stepchild of the S-II fleet...the poor developers were stuck with GB while T-Mobile picked its ass holding back all the updates. ****ty screen for sure, visible display flaws, poor PPI, cheap feeling...I never wanted to get a Samsung again. But I did...
The S-III was a huge improvement to say the least...I'm very satisfied with it. It does feel cheaper than say my old N1, but I think it feels a lot better than the NS or t989. Honestly with a screen protector and an otterbox commuter case, it's just fine. And as long as I have my Cyanogenmod, I don't care what software the thing comes with . Barring anything crazy coming out anytime soon, I don't see myself getting another phone until this falls apart.
In my eyes, as cliche as it may be, since my most important factors are Cyanogenmod and otterbox (or equivalent) case availability, all I care about are the specs. I sure hope screens stop ****in growing though...this one is almost too big as it is...
BTW: I sold my t989 on eBay for $350, all I had to do was unlock the thing, instantly increases it's value by a good $150. Always unlock your phone before you sell it, it will sell for much more.

nyyankees1237 said:
I agree on almost all of your points. I've had my share of android phones (G1, Moto Charm, G2x, and now Galaxy S3) and I'm beginning to become disappointed with the experience of this phone compared to that of a newer android device or even an iPhone and it's been only 8 months since I've purchased it. I don't quite agree with you on the music issue as I'm a music junkie myself with a 7 gig library but poweramp has transformed my android music listening experience into a great one.
Back to the S3, I've found that the battery life and build quality have been very sub par for me. Plus the pentile display is nothing to rave about either. Being only a sophomore in high school and tied to my family's family plan on T-Mobile, I really don't have an option to switch. I desperately want a Note 2 or Nexus 4 but financially I'm screwed. Even with the Nexus 4's low price I'd have to wait for the rumored 32gb version for storage reasons but that'd set me back $400 for shipping and tax. The S3 isn't even worth that anymore used.
All in all, I feel as if I should've waited for the Note 2 or Nexus 4 before getting the S3. Don't get me wrong, it's an awesome device that's suits all of my needs fine but there are definitely better choices out there from the perspective of a critical tech junkie such as myself.
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Referring to the music, my library exceeds 30 gigs and I've just found it irritating to sync and manage. Not a huge issue though. I think we're on the same page though. I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that way about the device. The thing is that I can get the HTC One spending all of my current savings, but then of course that means no new phone in the coming months. And Later this year there are just too many rumors about this "X Phone" and the new nexus... Idk.
zander21510 said:
In my eyes, as cliche as it may be, since my most important factors are Cyanogenmod and otterbox (or equivalent) case availability, all I care about are the specs. I sure hope screens stop ****in growing though...this one is almost too big as it is...
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I see where you're coming from. I got a huge Seido case for my S3, and then took it off after about a month. I dropped it afterwards (about 9 feet onto my subwoofer, long story) and nothing happened luckily. I like it better without a case. I guess looks would be a smaller factor then. Maybe, I should just snap that huge case back on and try to hold out until the holiday season... Idk lol. Thanks for the reply. :good:

I agree, I'll wait for the next nexus or galaxy note 3 with some saved money.
Perfect phone for me though:
High quality metal build (aluminum perhaps)
1080p 5+inch screen
3000mah+ battery
2ghz quadcore processor
2gb+ ram
Micro SD card slot
64gb+ internal storage
Stock android (for nexus updates)
8+ megapixel camera
Front facing speakers
Not insanely expensive lol
A guy could dream. Can anyone get it right?

ywindlass said:
Hello XDA Community,
I got my first smartphone in middle school. It was my first phone. The T-Mobile Shadow (Windows Mobile). I was 13 then. Now I'm 18, and in College. I spent my free time in doing the easy mods the community created. I got the MyTouch 3g as soon as it came out and started flashing roms. Then, the Nexus One came out and I immediately came up with a scheme to convince my sister to take my old phone so I could get the Nexus One. Anyways, I got it in 10th grade and life was sweet. I was happy. I became a "crack flasher". So I had the phone for a while and decided then to get the Galaxy S3.
As for the Galaxy S3...
I don't know about this phone. I've had it for less then a year. Obviously, I became an HTC fanboy growing up with HTC phones. My friends all got HTC phones. We all flashed roms and enjoyed ourselves. But when this phone came out, I had to make a hard decision. The removable battery, expandable storage (and T-Mobile availability) made it a good choice. It was unlike the HTC One X in those regards. (My friend got that phone) The HTC One just came out. I want it now.
Why?
Well I suppose I'm not that happy with the S3. I got a 64gb micro sd for it. I thought I could replace my ipod. I was so wrong. I hate all of the music players on Android. I regard music too highly to be happy with the Android music experience. Anyways, that's not going to change with any new Android phone. I've learned to live with that. The screen is nice, but it doesn't compare to other displays I've seen. I guess it's because I keep the DPI kind of low and expect crispness? The LG Nexus 4 has an amazing screen also and works very well. The biggest thing though, that I really dislike about this phone, is the build quality. I hate the plastic feeling. I hate the gloss and fingerprints. It feels so cheap. And, the UI isn't even liquid smooth. I've flashed a lot. I guess I'm comparing it to the Nexus 4 now, as I've played with that a bit. I've got very close to really quick, but I'm not satisfied. I paid a lot of money and invested my hopes in this technology but I'm not pleased.
I've found that throughout the time I've owned this phone, I've thought a lot of different things. I've considered Windows Phone, Blackberry, and even iPhone, just because I want something sexy that works well. But I'm an Android man.
I don't know if this is because deep down, I'm an HTC fanboy. Or if it's because I'm a Google fanboy and love Nexus phones (or a combination?). i hate these second thoughts I'm getting after such a long time of having the phone. It's not long enough to justify an upgrade. Am I cursed with being unimpressed forever growing up with so many innovations around me?
Do share your thoughts for me on this. I just wanted to share,
Cheers,
ywindlass
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Companies are getting us used to crave new things within very short periods of time, an example of this is the fact that new phones, tablets or any kind of electronics pop every 4 to 6 months, which is done to satisfy our non-basic needs of always having the latest gadgets, and to create more profits or economic growth for the typical capitalist corporations. We've been spoiled to have new tech very fast, which is in a way bad as this craving (or addiction?) can easily go out control and we can be left bored with very new gadgets in our hands or even go into debt t o satisfy this craving for more. This spoiling behavior makes us feel the need to want more or not to be satisfied with what we have and we can quickly become slaves of technology if we dive too deep into it, hence what you are feeling when you say that you are growing unimpressed with so many innovations or not satisfied or please with the current technology. Perhaps I'm going a bit of topic, but is worth to be aware where we stand as consumers and the invisible ways corporations play with our "addictions" or "needs" for the latest.

I love the looks of both the Nexus 4 and the HTC one better than my Galaxy S3, but no removeable battery and no expandable memory? Get serious? I can deal with a plasic back, the price I paid tells me it's not cheap! Anyways, I don't agree with anything else you said. This phone was awesomly fast out of the box and now I have a custom ROM that even improved on that. Plus, I prefer Samoleds although I admit Samsung could do better. A 1080p screen with Super Amoled + with a different pentile arrangement would be nice. My next phone is most likely to be the Note 3, Samsung is just at the edge of innovation right now, too much so for me not to buy. Can't wait!

nyyankees1237 said:
A guy could dream. Can anyone get it right?
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I would say my dream phone would be:
-1080p 4.75in (no bigger, no smaller) super-fancy spaceage whatever screen that can actually get its brightness as low as possible at night, and stays clear and readable in direct sunlight...
-1.5ghz+ ultra-energy efficient 4+ core processor.
-2GB+ RAM
-Micro SD card
-16+ GB internal storage
-Removable back cover and battery
-NFC, Barometer, compass, so many sensors I can start a weatherstation lol.
-Vibration with adjustable intensity from barely felt to earthquake magnitude.
-Latest Cyanogenmod stock, with options to auto-update to stable, M, or nightly releases (a guy can dream...)
-A rear camera that can shoot 1080P video and instant-shutter, no noise high quality pictures, and a front camera capable of doing an HD Skype call.
-2 front-firing speakers (one on bottom, one on top that doubles as earpiece); a rear-facing mic for the camera, and a bottom-facing mic for phone calls
-Capacative buttons underneath screen (menu, home, back in that order)
-24-hour runtime battery
-Body of carbon fiber (the durabilty of plastic with the feel of metal)
-Super gorilla glass whatever that can withstand a 5-foot face-down drop.
I would pay a good $450 for that phone.

Can't forget the holographic keyboard.
Scores over 10,000 on quadrant, I saw a stock HTC one today score 9133 on quadrant running stock 4.1.2. That was impressive.
I like your dream phone.
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zander21510 said:
I would say my dream phone would be:
-1080p 4.75in (no bigger, no smaller) super-fancy spaceage whatever screen that can actually get its brightness as low as possible at night, and stays clear and readable in direct sunlight...
-1.5ghz+ ultra-energy efficient 4+ core processor.
-2GB+ RAM
-Micro SD card
-16+ GB internal storage
-Removable back cover and battery
-NFC, Barometer, compass, so many sensors I can start a weatherstation lol.
-Vibration with adjustable intensity from barely felt to earthquake magnitude.
-Latest Cyanogenmod stock, with options to auto-update to stable, M, or nightly releases (a guy can dream...)
-A rear camera that can shoot 1080P video and instant-shutter, no noise high quality pictures, and a front camera capable of doing an HD Skype call.
-2 front-firing speakers (one on bottom, one on top that doubles as earpiece); a rear-facing mic for the camera, and a bottom-facing mic for phone calls
-Capacative buttons underneath screen (menu, home, back in that order)
-24-hour runtime battery
-Body of carbon fiber (the durabilty of plastic with the feel of metal)
-Super gorilla glass whatever that can withstand a 5-foot face-down drop.
I would pay a good $450 for that phone.
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I'll take two! Haha
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The power of a desktop computer, specifically i7 3770k, gtx 580 sli x3, 24gb ram, 256gb sd, all in a sexy Nokia n9 form, running windows 8.
Thats my dream phone. Seems realistic enough.
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ywindlass said:
Hello XDA Community,
I got my first smartphone in middle school. It was my first phone. The T-Mobile Shadow (Windows Mobile). I was 13 then. Now I'm 18, and in College. I spent my free time in doing the easy mods the community created. I got the MyTouch 3g as soon as it came out and started flashing roms. Then, the Nexus One came out and I immediately came up with a scheme to convince my sister to take my old phone so I could get the Nexus One. Anyways, I got it in 10th grade and life was sweet. I was happy. I became a "crack flasher". So I had the phone for a while and decided then to get the Galaxy S3.
As for the Galaxy S3...
I don't know about this phone. I've had it for less then a year. Obviously, I became an HTC fanboy growing up with HTC phones. My friends all got HTC phones. We all flashed roms and enjoyed ourselves. But when this phone came out, I had to make a hard decision. The removable battery, expandable storage (and T-Mobile availability) made it a good choice. It was unlike the HTC One X in those regards. (My friend got that phone) The HTC One just came out. I want it now.
Why?
Well I suppose I'm not that happy with the S3. I got a 64gb micro sd for it. I thought I could replace my ipod. I was so wrong. I hate all of the music players on Android. I regard music too highly to be happy with the Android music experience. Anyways, that's not going to change with any new Android phone. I've learned to live with that. The screen is nice, but it doesn't compare to other displays I've seen. I guess it's because I keep the DPI kind of low and expect crispness? The LG Nexus 4 has an amazing screen also and works very well. The biggest thing though, that I really dislike about this phone, is the build quality. I hate the plastic feeling. I hate the gloss and fingerprints. It feels so cheap. And, the UI isn't even liquid smooth. I've flashed a lot. I guess I'm comparing it to the Nexus 4 now, as I've played with that a bit. I've got very close to really quick, but I'm not satisfied. I paid a lot of money and invested my hopes in this technology but I'm not pleased.
I've found that throughout the time I've owned this phone, I've thought a lot of different things. I've considered Windows Phone, Blackberry, and even iPhone, just because I want something sexy that works well. But I'm an Android man.
I don't know if this is because deep down, I'm an HTC fanboy. Or if it's because I'm a Google fanboy and love Nexus phones (or a combination?). i hate these second thoughts I'm getting after such a long time of having the phone. It's not long enough to justify an upgrade. Am I cursed with being unimpressed forever growing up with so many innovations around me?
Do share your thoughts for me on this. I just wanted to share,
Cheers,
ywindlass
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" I want something sexy that works well"
Get a cerulean n9. Though the s3 hardware is very much superior to the n9, the n9 just wins hands down IMHO.
I have both phone and u would pick the n9 over the s3 any day of I didn't water damage the power switch on my n9.. Grrr Seattle rain..

wardoc22 said:
The power of a desktop computer, specifically i7 3770k, gtx 580 sli x3, 24gb ram, 256gb sd, all in a sexy Nokia n9 form, running windows 8.
Thats my dream phone. Seems realistic enough.
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" I want something sexy that works well"
Get a cerulean n9. Though the s3 hardware is very much superior to the n9, the n9 just wins hands down IMHO.
I have both phone and u would pick the n9 over the s3 any day of I didn't water damage the power switch on my n9.. Grrr Seattle rain..
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Those specs would definitely be amazing haha. But yeah, I did end up getting the HTC one, and I think I'm happier. I havent even rooted yet and I'm still content. It just works so well. Everything is so clean and sexy.

nyyankees1237 said:
I agree, I'll wait for the next nexus or galaxy note 3 with some saved money.
Perfect phone for me though:
High quality metal build (aluminum perhaps)
1080p 5+inch screen
3000mah+ battery
2ghz quadcore processor
2gb+ ram
Micro SD card slot
64gb+ internal storage
Stock android (for nexus updates)
8+ megapixel camera
Front facing speakers
Not insanely expensive lol
Perfect phone for me though:
A guy could dream. Can anyone get it right?
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By your specs, would the Google S4 be it?
BTW, my dream specs:
1080p 5+inch screen
3000mah+battery
2ghz quadcore processor
3gb ram
Micro SD card slot
128gb+internal storage
Stock android
12+MP camera
4+MP front camera
Wireless charging
Front facing speakers
FM radio (for my mom)
LTE
Inexpensive

wardoc22 said:
Grrr Seattle rain..
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Rain? Seattle? Pfft.....

Thetenthdr said:
Rain? Seattle? Pfft.....
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It rains here 24.7 in the winter.

Yes, yes it does.
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