I'm looking to learn to start developing ROM's and such and would like some input on the best way to learn and where I could go to find such material. Any help would be awesome, thanks in advance =)
Freeyourandroid.com is a great resource to get you started
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I have learned a lot from asking other devs. Reading gets you the vocabulary, but seldom do you find a how to that gives you all the tools. I think the reason for that is that making a rom is actually obscure. Its part theming, part coding, part kanging, part art project. I was told to learn how to theme. That gives you good basics.
Let me know how I can help!
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Thank you both, I'll take a look at the site later and as far as help goes...diving right in has always seemed to be my strong suit so any direction to do so I'd say would be the biggest help.
Once I get started I'm fairly certain that I'll be asking mucho questions, but until then I'll take a look at the site when I get back and will hopefully do something useful with my break for the holidays.
I think Androidpolice was giving away a resource book for doing exactly what you are attempting. Maybe check that book out?
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Hi Guys,
So I looked in the general android development and DINC development but did not really find much. Basically I am looking into getting into Android Development. I just graduated Clarkson University yesterday and am going to work for Procter and Gamble and am going to have a lot of free time nights/weekends and want to get into this. As for my coding experience, I do not have much in java, however, I have taken a few comp sci classes in high school and have used MatLAB and LabVIEW a lot during college as a Mech E. So I am very familiar with coding and the logic behind it, just a matter of learning a new language.
I have started by downloading the Android SDK (just updated to 2.3) and have been doing a few of the tutorials they have on developers.android site such as Hello World, however this seems more geared to developing apps, which I do have a few ideas for. But what I would like to get into right now is some ROM development for the DINC as I have a few ideas for this too and would like to start with this.
So I was wondering if anyone could give some device on how they got started? Just pulled the code from HTC and opened it up and started looking around? Do a lot of you use Eclipse for development as they seem to suggest for apps? Is there any good guides to getting into ROM development as I have not quite found any? Also does anyone have any ideas and need some help work on things, I think this would be a good way to learn.
Thank you,
Brendan
Hello these links might help.
Porting
http://source.android.com/
Source
http://android.git.kernel.org/
CyanogenMod
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
CVPCS
http://howto.ccroms.net/
XDA - Compile AOSP Froyo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704561
Just realize it is a lot of work. You can start from pure source, or from CM, or CVPCS. Starting from pure source will give lots of problems but will probably teach you a lot about the system. Either way those links should be of some assistance. Look at CM device setup to see how device setups work. He has a working setup for most devices.
Alright! Another one comes aboard. Good luck man, keep us posted, ask questiions here cuz most are very knowledgeable and willing to help out. Dont give up, get us something 2.3 and very much thanks in advance for doing what you do.
Glad to see a thread like this. I have been interested in doing ROMs for a long time now but didn't really know where to start. This should get me running
If you run into any problems don't hesitate to contact me. You can reach by twitter at @linuxmotion or pm me for an email. Though I am relatively new, I can surely help if the you want some. Hope those links helped
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In also looking to get my feet wet
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Hi there everyone, my name is Alex and I just got my first smartphone ever, an Samsung Galaxy S2 and I would be grateful if someone could help take it to another level. Root, optimize, enchance it's "power", so on and so forth. I will really appreciate all of your help. I just heard of you guys from a friend, and believe me when I say "I AM NOOB!!" I don't know anything about rooting/ unlocking/ jailbreak/ etc.
Please leave me a message.
With deep sympathy and respect,
Alex.
what version of the GS2 do you have?
there are different forums for some different variants here on XDA. Once you identify which version you have, you can go to that forum and sniff around. read as much as you can, and you'll figure everything out pretty easily
You should start by finding and posting at the CORRECT section. I'm very sure that all sections have their own guide on rooting and flashing.
Devices are kinda like cars... if it is your first.. spend some time exploring what it can do already before you get into making it do more. Then, when you know your way around a bit... dig in!
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rustyshack3 said:
Devices are kinda like cars... if it is your first.. spend some time exploring what it can do already before you get into making it do more. Then, when you know your way around a bit... dig in!
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Very well said my friend
If this is your very first Android phone (nice choice by the way!), you'll want to spend at least some time familiarising yourself with Android and its workings before plunging into anything here. Some of the stuff available here for the GS2 is incredible, but it can also land you in a lot of hot water if you don't understand what you are doing before you try things.
Take your time and enjoy it 'stock' for a while. Learn what rooting is/does, pick a couple of 'favourite' custom ROMs, and read through their threads (entirely) before doing anything. This will give you a good awareness of what to expect as far as bugs and hiccups are concerned, and how others have got around them or fixed them.
This is a fantastic community, full of fantastic Development. Make sure you stick to the rules, post in the right places, and if in doubt... read!
Enjoy, and welcome to XDA
i wanna get into the dev community. I realized i use what people make, but unlike alot of people, i wanna give back a little. Basically what im asking for is someone for me to message throughout this whole ordeal, and help me with some step by step things, walkthroughs, videos, anything to help me get going. Id prefer them to be roms devs themselves. i also enjoy long walks on the beach and just getting to know each other
I'm in the same boat bro. I wanna get into it as well, although I don't have the time to devote to it right now.
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SynysterSilence said:
i wanna get into the dev community. I realized i use what people make, but unlike alot of people, i wanna give back a little. Basically what im asking for is someone for me to message throughout this whole ordeal, and help me with some step by step things, walkthroughs, videos, anything to help me get going. Id prefer them to be roms devs themselves. i also enjoy long walks on the beach and just getting to know each other
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there are numerous tutorials on xda, rootz, and other sites on building from source and/or making sense (oem skin) roms
theres no quick step to get going, though building straight from someones source (which isnt really developing) requires just a few commands once ur build environment is set up
really though, most rom devs (well maybe not most, but many) started with theming first to get gain a working knowledge of the structure/set up of a rom and what controls what...as well as basically smali editing/apk decompiling and the tools needed
aosp requires a semi working knowledge of java to actually build your own things rather than syncing and building someone elses
there are plenty of devs that enjoying helping new folks out...but its kind of understood that you ll do some research on your own and have some knowledge of what ur doing...its a lot to kind of ask someone to talk you through every single thing that goes into it
from my own personal experience it, it took me several months of theming before i felt confident enough to tackle a rom project...and even then they were rom collaborations with people a lot smarter than me (sbrissen, adrynalyne, imnuts, etc)
nitsuj17 said:
there are numerous tutorials on xda, rootz, and other sites on building from source and/or making sense (oem skin) roms
theres no quick step to get going, though building straight from someones source (which isnt really developing) requires just a few commands once ur build environment is set up
really though, most rom devs (well maybe not most, but many) started with theming first to get gain a working knowledge of the structure/set up of a rom and what controls what...as well as basically smali editing/apk decompiling and the tools needed
aosp requires a semi working knowledge of java to actually build your own things rather than syncing and building someone elses
there are plenty of devs that enjoying helping new folks out...but its kind of understood that you ll do some research on your own and have some knowledge of what ur doing...its a lot to kind of ask someone to talk you through every single thing that goes into it
from my own personal experience it, it took me several months of theming before i felt confident enough to tackle a rom project...and even then they were rom collaborations with people a lot smarter than me (sbrissen, adrynalyne, imnuts, etc)
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so if i were to start off with theming, what tools/programs would i need for my windows 7 running computer?
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so if i were to start off with theming, what tools/programs would i need for my windows 7 running computer?
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JDK, SDK, apktool, gimp, notepad++,and there's a search tool that I can't remember off the top of my head. That's all I got right now. And all I'm gonna run for a while.
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awesome, now where do i go to start learning how to theme?
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awesome, now where do i go to start learning how to theme?
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This might help...my really old fascinate theme guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932856
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This might help...my really old fascinate theme guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932856
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wow good stuff bro thanks alot
wow this is actually just about what im looking for. its not very in depth, mostly the basics from the looks of it, but it sure as hell is a great start. i appreciate it.
I'm taking a java course this summer to help me make some ROMs. I would recommend it.
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i would but i dont have the time nor the money for it. my dads got his masters in computers tho i could probably get help from him for things like that.
My parents gave me their old laptop, I have ubuntu on it. When I get the time, I want to create my ROM based on CM9. I want to learn Java too, because I would like to do some themeing too.
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My parents gave me their old laptop, I have ubuntu on it. When I get the time, I want to create my ROM based on CM9. I want to learn Java too, because I would like to do some themeing too.
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Theming doesn't require java knowledge
Do me a favor, perhaps?
Lately, I've been enjoying all the great roms and kernels that the Dev community has provided and I'd like to somehow give back. If any devs would possibly provide some simple advice on how to start developing or links to a few guides/resources they found the most helpful, I'd be super appreciative. (Well, more than I am already
I'm not a quick learner or a genius of some sorts, so hopefully the community isn't expecting much... But, if I do learn a lot and possibly enough to create something decent. I hope I'll be able to create something useful for all of you to enjoy sometime in the near future. Thanks and God bless.
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Do me a favor, perhaps?
Lately, I've been enjoying all the great roms and kernels that the Dev community has provided and I'd like to somehow give back. If any devs would possibly provide some simple advice on how to start developing or links to a few guides/resources they found the most helpful, I'd be super appreciative. (Well, more than I am already
I'm not a quick learner or a genius of some sorts, so hopefully the community isn't expecting much... But, if I do learn a lot and possibly enough to create something decent. I hope I'll be able to create something useful for all of you to enjoy sometime in the near future. Thanks and God bless.
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At the bottom of this post http://www.xda-developers.com/android/sage-advice-from-cyanogen-still-valid-today/ there are some guides that should point you in the right direction..
Hi, I'm Jacob. And I don't know if this is in the correct section, but I do plan on developing apps mainly for the Galaxy S3, so hopefully I've chosen the section wisely...
Now that that's out of the way, I'd like to say that I'm very interested in Android Development. Unfortunately I have no coding knowlage at all. I would love to learn Java, C++, etc. Is there anybody who would be willing to take me under their wing and teach me some of this? Whether it's just simple stuff or not, I honestly don't care. I would just love to jump into creating insane root apps right now, but I have nowhere near the kind of knowlage that I need to even get started. I'm also interested in creating custom ROMs. (and or themes)
Anyways, my point is, I'd like help, and I want to know if there is anybody willing to.
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Hi, I'm Jacob. And I don't know if this is in the correct section, but I do plan on developing apps mainly for the Galaxy S3, so hopefully I've chosen the section wisely...
Now that that's out of the way, I'd like to say that I'm very interested in Android Development. Unfortunately I have no coding knowlage at all. I would love to learn Java, C++, etc. Is there anybody who would be willing to take me under their wing and teach me some of this? Whether it's just simple stuff or not, I honestly don't care. I would just love to jump into creating insane root apps right now, but I have nowhere near the kind of knowlage that I need to even get started. I'm also interested in creating custom ROMs. (and or themes)
Anyways, my point is, I'd like help, and I want to know if there is anybody willing to.
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Good luck man. I've tried finding help to no avail. Programming and all this good stuff takes time and skill.... Very little time on people's hands these days....
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If I can, I would recommend reading through "Java Methods A and AB" to learn java. Very well written and theres a pdf of it online if you search too.
Thats how I learned and other than that, its just putting lots of time into it. I research everything I come across that I'm not familiar with, and now apart from the things actually covered in that book, I know how to make nice GUI's, how to cryptographic encoders work, how to bundle resources with a runnable JAR, etc. You just have to be willing to put the time in to learn, but from there its easy
Also, if you come across it too early, I would suggest not messing with threading and concurrency until you have a good grasp of java
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you can't jump directly into android programming ,first, learn java and you'll be better off . After you've acquired sufficient skills in basic java - developer.android.com can assist you furthers . Make no mistake this ain't cat walk and would take time and patience since you are starting from absolute zero . Moreover i don't think anybody would love to take you - 'under their wings' - you are on your own mostly unless you take up some real time courses/classes in real life
why fix it if it ain't broken ?
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you can't jump directly into android programming ,first, learn java and you'll be better off . After you've acquired sufficient skills in basic java - developer.android.com can assist you furthers . Make no mistake this ain't cat walk and would take time and patience since you are starting from absolute zero . Moreover i don't think anybody would love to take you - 'under their wings' - you are on your own mostly unless you take up some real time courses/classes in real life
why fix it if it ain't broken ?
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Thanks for the info. I am very willing to take classes IRL but I'm nothing but a middle school student. I'll do the best I can to find some way to learn these concepts. Hopefully you'll be seeing me around in the Developer's section sometime soon!
Hey jtkemp.
I'm a sophomore in high school and I've been trying to learn to program. Here's what advice I can give you. First get a basic understanding of java, then once you have that down go though the android programming libraries at android.devolper.com. Then after that I have been taking apps currently out there already and modifying them to get better at it. Stay in touch and maybe we can help reach other out, I've been hoping I could find someone that would even let me help with like some stupid stuff they didn't want to do but so far no one. Good luck! It's a lot of fun!
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Here are some links to some free online classes you can take
http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/602-Free-online-programming/CS-courses-for-beginners
And yes for many reasons a ton of people on XDA don't like to or don't have the time to talk about development. Everyone wants to be "the man". It's all baby steps really and depending on what type of development you're interested in (custom ROMs, apps, kernels etc) It all takes time. The hardest part I've had is developing an app. I've used Tasker to make a few personal apps but am still working with eclipse, which I've been told is not all that great to begin with.
But it all depends on what your interests are. Wanna mod and theme? Check out apktool and how to reverse engineer apk's. Wanna make apps and ROMs? Set up a Linux distro (I use Ubuntu and Arch) and download the sdk, CM repo, and the Jdk. Most importantly, use Google. Every thing I posted and virtually any questions I've had have been solved with a search. May take a while but the info is out there (How to set up apktool SGS3, How to install Ubuntu, How to Build CM 10.1, etc)
Feel free to drop me a PM, I'm off until fall semester and have some time on my hands.
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I use eclipse and find the environment a lot better than other IDE's. I've tried netbeans but went back to eclipse because for me eclipse is just more intuitive
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I learned a lot of development knowledge from just hanging out in an irc with some real cool dudes, learned how to at least understand java and a little c from studying some stuff, I'd recommend the same. A lot of people don't wanna help you because they don't know how much you know. Try to get a development presense, make a theme or theme an app. Just your name out. Give some devs some logs! Make some friends, they'll help you when you get stuck but no one will hold your hand. Do you use Linux? Learn the Linux command line. Try making a kernel for it, whether it works or not is errelevant, just learn the process and get an idea of what all that entails.
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fergie716 said:
Here are some links to some free online classes you can take
http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/602-Free-online-programming/CS-courses-for-beginners
And yes for many reasons a ton of people on XDA don't like to or don't have the time to talk about development. Everyone wants to be "the man". It's all baby steps really and depending on what type of development you're interested in (custom ROMs, apps, kernels etc) It all takes time. The hardest part I've had is developing an app. I've used Tasker to make a few personal apps but am still working with eclipse, which I've been told is not all that great to begin with.
But it all depends on what your interests are. Wanna mod and theme? Check out apktool and how to reverse engineer apk's. Wanna make apps and ROMs? Set up a Linux distro (I use Ubuntu and Arch) and download the sdk, CM repo, and the Jdk. Most importantly, use Google. Every thing I posted and virtually any questions I've had have been solved with a search. May take a while but the info is out there (How to set up apktool SGS3, How to install Ubuntu, How to Build CM 10.1, etc)
Feel free to drop me a PM, I'm off until fall semester and have some time on my hands.
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*chuckles* I use Ubuntu as my default operating system anyway.
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jtkemp101010 said:
*chuckles* I use Ubuntu as my default operating system anyway.
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Check out xda-university too, I think that would be a great place to start
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Try stuff besides Ubuntu too, lots of different distros with, I think, better performance. Ex: I use mint 11. I used sabayon for a while too.
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Used Mint for a while. It seems like it might get up there with the popularity of Ubuntu. Although I think that Ubuntu is more visually appealing.
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Used Mint for a while. It seems like it might get up there with the popularity of Ubuntu. Although I think that Ubuntu is more visually appealing.
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Yeah I know a lot of people that prefer Mint over Ubuntu....I have yet to try it myself as I'm very pleased with my setup right now...the Faience theme is nice
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Thenewboston.com beginner java video tutorials helped get me through my java class. I find I learn visually very well. There are also android development tutorials on his site. Good luck!
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