Searched for this, couldn't find anything, and maybe it's old news but: does/can the cdma xperia play work on sprint's network? I'm not opposed to rigorous flashing
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Doubt it, Verizon seems to be the only CDMA network
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Doubt it, Verizon seems to be the only CDMA network
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Ok, I need context for this. I'll admit that I don't fully understand carrier network divisions, but I know that Sprint's network is cdma and that sprint phones can use verizon's network because of the two carrier's roaming agreement.
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Ok, I need context for this. I'll admit that I don't fully understand carrier network divisions, but I know that Sprint's network is cdma and that sprint phones can use verizon's network because of the two carrier's roaming agreement.
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Sprint/verizon are cdma, att/t-mobile are gsm...
You'd have to flash the phone to a different provider, which I believe requires the bootloader to be unlocked... I'm not sure though...
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More importantly, you would have to get Sprint, to add the esn of your phone to thier database, to work. Which never happens!
Ok, ok. So it's possible but *HIGHLY* unlikely?
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Probably wrong forum but I also have a fascinate and was wondering if there was anyway of flashing over to sprint for my second line since it can be flashed to metro and cricket
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No, Sprint does not allow other networks ESN's on their network.
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No, Sprint does not allow other networks ESN's on their network.
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Well damn haha oh well guess I'll need to use the upgrade no matter what to get that phone off the blackberry haha
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ichefae85 said:
Probably wrong forum but I also have a fascinate and was wondering if there was anyway of flashing over to sprint for my second line since it can be flashed to metro and cricket
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No, Sprint does not allow other networks ESN's on their network.
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To OP:Actually the Honest answer is yes, due to a lawsuit against sprint you ARE allowed to bring your own phone to sprint as lone as it's already flashed over to the sprint network, although not everything will work depending on how you flash it or have it done by. it's the same way with all carrier's, if you have a cdma phone it is allowed on any CDMA network (besides possibly the CDMA Iphone4). and any GSM phone will work with any GSM tech Carrier.
To: ichefae85 do a little research before giving someone an answer on this subject, a CDMA phone can be flashed to any Carrier whether it be Cricket, Metro, Boost, or Sprint! They just will not flash all the information over for you, you have to do that either yourself or 3rd-party. Also if you do not believe me Search on google for the FCC ruling on the matter
The reason you CANNOT use a non-Sprint phone on the Sprint network is that ESN cloning (the method used to obtain a flash) is highly illegal when performed by anyone other then network personnel, so while doable, Sprint won't do it so in this case its a felony.
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The reason you CANNOT use a non-Sprint phone on the Sprint network is that ESN cloning (the method used to obtain a flash) is highly illegal when performed by anyone other then network personnel, so while doable, Sprint won't do it so in this case its a felony.
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Haha I'll just stay safe and do the upgrade and just sell my fascinate
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Is it possible to use the Inc 2 on US based GSM providers? I see the phone supports US GSM frequencies.
Yes but it needs to be unlocked by software. www.CDMA-guru.com is a good place if you want to do it on your own. If not take it to a shop and they can do it for you.
Yes, ask verizon global dept for the unlock code.
Most of the time they will provide it. Tell them you are traveling Asia and want it unlocked.
XTC clip also allows it.
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Yes, ask verizon global dept for the unlock code.
Most of the time they will provide it. Tell them you are traveling Asia and want it unlocked.
XTC clip also allows it.
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So it would work on say... ATT in the states? Just curious..
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it should work on att and tmo however im not sure if 3g will work because of different bandwith.
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it should work on att and tmo however im not sure if 3g will work because of different bandwith.
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Oh ok, I wouldn't do it just wondering. I'm deploying soon so I need to start shopping for carriers in Afghanistan.
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2g should work either way though i just know when u take an unlocked phone from tmo and use it on att the 3g wont work.
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Oh ok, I wouldn't do it just wondering. I'm deploying soon so I need to start shopping for carriers in Afghanistan.
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It definitely works with Etisalat in UAE.
to confirm, i get Edge in the states on a AT&T sim.
in Asia (Vietnam) i get 3g via UMTS on Mobifone and Viettel
So lets say I wanted to get coverage in an area I normally don't but AT&T has coverage. If I unlock my phone do I have to pay for AT&T service and it is a different number or do I retain my number just pay for the service through AT&T? This is my first go around with all of this and I am not sure it will be worth it.
You have to get service with the other carrier. Which means a second number. I would recommend just doing a prepaid. Remember under your mobile networks settings you have to switch between gsm and cdma.
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Oh ok, I wouldn't do it just wondering. I'm deploying soon so I need to start shopping for carriers in Afghanistan.
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Lucky you, if we get caught over with a cell phone its going to be an NJP.
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Hi, i wanna buy a Samsung Galaxy S III Sprint for use in GSM, is possible unlock?
i wait your response. Thanks .
Or flash it to Virgin Mobile,Cricket or Boost?
The Sprint Galaxy S3 works only in CDMA networks... Not GSM.
Yes, it can be flashed to Boost, Cricket, MetroPCS, Virgin Mobile.
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lviv73 said:
Or flash it to Virgin Mobile,Cricket or Boost?
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Yes! Just give it some time
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Thanks for your reponses. I think what is possible unlock because is the same hardware? or not.
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Yes! Just give it some time
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Yeah someone definitively needs to post a tutorial i will donate $10 for tutorial.
Head over to usgalaxys3.com. The owner of that site has already posted instructions to flash it to Cricket.
I'm in no way affiliated with that site, just sharing where I saw the instructions.
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AlpineMan said:
Head over to usgalaxys3.com. The owner of that site has already posted instructions to flash it to Cricket.
I'm in no way affiliated with that site, just sharing where I saw the instructions.
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Any Virgin Mobile instructions,they are the cheapest and run on Sprint's network?
Hardware isnt the same radio gpu and professor is different
master acehole said:
Hardware isnt the same radio gpu and professor is different
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Hardware doesnt matter,i already flashed original Epic and Epic Touch to Virgin Mobile.
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Hardware doesnt matter,i already flashed original Epic and Epic Touch to Virgin Mobile.
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The radio hardware matters, it has to be compatible with 1900 mhz Sprint PCS band. But the other things like GPU don't matter. lol
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The radio hardware matters, it has to be compatible with 1900 mhz Sprint PCS band. But the other things like GPU don't matter. lol
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Virgin uses Sprint towers so band is the same.
Anyone know how to flash Sprint GS3 to Virgin? Or will Epic Touch method work with GS3?
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Hardware doesnt matter,i already flashed original Epic and Epic Touch to Virgin Mobile.
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hey, how do you do that? could you give some instructions or links to page(s) that might be useful? newbie here thinking about getting a Sprint S2 to replace Motorola Triumph, getting tired of lags/freezes
thanks.
How's the virgin network?regarding voice/data do you get better download speeds then sprints crappy service.
I'm in the southern new england area
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Thread hijack to the hightest level lmao only 3 post are completly relavant to OP :/
Bottomline - You cannot use GSM phone on a CDMA network unless it is a global phone and supports both GSM and CDMA as well as the frequencies of the carrier you intend to use.
That is an obvious spam post. Please people, there are no exceptions... you CANNOT take a Sprint or Verizon phone and unlock it to be used on ANY service that is GSM or uses a SIM card. Period. The unlock sites will just take your money. World band phones will already be unlocked for use on European GSM networks most of the time so no unlock code is needed overseas.
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That is an obvious spam post. Please people, there are no exceptions... you CANNOT take a Sprint or Verizon phone and unlock it to be used on ANY service that is GSM or uses a SIM card. Period. The unlock sites will just take your money. World band phones will already be unlocked for use on European GSM networks most of the time so no unlock code is needed overseas.
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You can flash it to another carrier though.
Not if the carrier is GSM or uses a SIM card. There is no possibility. Whatsoever. And unless you know a network level technician on verizon, you are limited to the smaller regional carriers and prepaid services to flash a Sprint phone. And vice versa for a Verizon phone. They will not connect a phone that does not already have its ESN already in its system.
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Not if the carrier is GSM or uses a SIM card. There is no possibility. Whatsoever. And unless you know a network level technician on verizon, you are limited to the smaller regional carriers and prepaid services to flash a Sprint phone. And vice versa for a Verizon phone. They will not connect a phone that does not already have its ESN already in its system.
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Its common knowledge about gsm and cdma,if you dont know what these are then you have no business flashing carriers.
Sprint phones can be flashed to almost all prepaid carriers,overseas cdma is less common however there are ways out there to even flash cdma phone to their carriers.My father in Ukraine had his Epic 4g flashed to a carrier that uses sim cards,so there are ways even overseas.I think some overseas carriers use both cdma and gsm.
I have the chance to buy a sgs. Could I unlock it and have it work on Verizon's network? The sellers insists it could with the right APNs. Can any one enlighten me?
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I have the chance to buy a sgs. Could I unlock it and have it work on Verizon's network? The sellers insists it could with the right APNs. Can any one enlighten me?
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If the phone is manufactured for Verizon, like it says verizon on the device, then yes it will. However, if its a T-Mobile or ATT SGS3, then NO it wont work. ATT and T-Mobile SGS3 doesnt have CDMA bands.
If its a sprint SGS3, then yes you can unlock it to work on Verizon. Hope that clarifies things for you.
It doesn't have the right 4g bands?
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It doesn't have the right 4g bands?
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No the T-Mobile and att phones don't have any cdma bands at all.
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No the T-Mobile and att phones don't have any cdma bands at all.
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That is correct there is complete incompatibility between the carriers cdma vs. gsm, CDMA is more frequently used here in the us its a older technology and GSM is more world wide the only phone i really seen that carries both bands are the iphone 4s
Thanks for your info guys
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Any phone that sports the "global" tag will work on any carrier. Such as the "Droid 2 Global" and I believe that there is actually a worldwide variation of the htc one x or one s as well.
Google is your best bet.
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Any phone that sports the "global" tag will work on any carrier. Such as the "Droid 2 Global" and I believe that there is actually a worldwide variation of the htc one x or one s as well.
Google is your best bet.
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I heard the Verizon S3 is supposed to be "Global" however, remember that T-Mobile is special and uses that 1700 mHz aws frequency for 3g therefore global phones wont get 3g on tmobile. Like my Sprint Touch Pro 2 for instance
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Any phone that sports the "global" tag will work on any carrier. Such as the "Droid 2 Global" and I believe that there is actually a worldwide variation of the htc one x or one s as well.
Google is your best bet.
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The only "global" phones that have CDMA bands are Verizon and Sprint phones in the US.
Why would a GSM carrier put GSM bands in their phone when you can use a GSM phone overseas already?
I'm not talking about overseas, I'm telling the op a global phone would work on any carrier...
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I'm not talking about overseas, I'm telling the op a global phone would work on any carrier...
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But they won't. A global phone from AT&T or T-Mobile will not work on Verizon or Sprint. A Verizon or Sprint global phone is also not likely as the other carriers will not activate it. However it is much more likely.
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But they won't. A global phone from AT&T or T-Mobile will not work on Verizon or Sprint. A Verizon or Sprint global phone is also not likely as the other carriers will not activate it. However it is much more likely.
Edit: I will concede that certain devices can only use certain frequency ranges however, as I stated -any phone that sports the global tag can and will tap any frequency.
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I hate to burst your bubble, but your most definitely wrong. Most Gsm phones for the United States will not work overseas, its just the "name" of the US network. CDMA works transparently with TDMA. If you know anything about APNs and cat radios then you'll be able to figure it out.
I have personally cracked verizon for AT&T and vice versa.
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I hate to burst your bubble, but your most definitely wrong. Most Gsm phones for the United States will not work overseas, its just the "name" of the US network. CDMA works transparently with TDMA. If you know anything about APNs and cat radios then you'll be able to figure it out.
I have personally cracked verizon for AT&T and vice versa.
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So I can use a UK phone here, but I can't use an unlocked AT&T phone in the UK? That makes no sense. So why do people overseas buy unlocked phones from the US? So they can use them for paperweights?
The difference between GSM here in NA vs the rest of the world is the frequencies used:
Most of NA and SA use 850/1900 while the majority of the planet uses 900/1800. http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
So if you want to use a phone from the US overseas it must be at least Triband or quadband (more common).
For 3G to work outside the US the phone will also need the 2100 band.
Hope this helps.
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I hate to burst your bubble, but your most definitely wrong. Most Gsm phones for the United States will not work overseas, its just the "name" of the US network. CDMA works transparently with TDMA. If you know anything about APNs and cat radios then you'll be able to figure it out.
I have personally cracked verizon for AT&T and vice versa.
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Lol, GSM phones can be used worldwide. The only real big place that uses CDMA bands is inside the USA, almost everywhere else is straight GSM. Funny how people buy US phones from overseas, and never once have complained that they don't work. But I'll definitely take your word for it.
But since you supposedly can make an AT&T phone work on Verizon, mind getting me a Galaxy Note that works on Verizon? Unless of course its not possible, which its not.
If I unlocked my Hercules and used at&t prepaid and flashed a skyrocket radio would I be able to use their data? And also would the data be just as fast?
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Yes I think so might just have to change APN settings
How do you do that?
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I'm not for sure you may not have to. I only know how to change APN on a iPhone. You should be OK with just an unlocked t989 and radio change
I believe you could use it, but it would only be 2g because at&t uses LTE for their high speed networks. The physical radio itself in our Hercules just doesn't support it.
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But a att radio should fix that
No, not the software radio. That will give you the 2G signal, but we don't have the actual physical hardware to run full speed on at&t's network. That's part of why the Hercules has a different processor, the one in the international/att sII wouldn't work with tmo's hspa network.
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You would be able to use your Hercules on AT&T but if the fast data you're referring to is 4G LTE, then no, you won't get that because the Hercules doesn't have the hardware needed to support it. You would get HSPA+ though.
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Couldn't you turn off 4g and just pull 3g and it work that way?
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Couldn't you turn off 4g and just pull 3g and it work that way?
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No. You could turn off 4G and get EDGE/2G though.
On Verizon phones you can turn off 4g to only use 3g why would it not be the same
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On Verizon phones you can turn off 4g to only use 3g why would it not be the same
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T-Mobile's 3G/4G networks run on the same bands so you can't block something on one band and only let the other thing work. I guess Verizon has different bands for 3G/4G.
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I see got cha.. I didn't know
I hope i'm not hijacking here but I have a similar question. I'm in an at&t lte market and was considering using my t989 with at&t via straightalk. Would I be better off to sell my phone and get a "true" at&t phone that does LTE?
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I hope i'm not hijacking here but I have a similar question. I'm in an at&t lte market and was considering using my t989 with at&t via straightalk. Would I be better off to sell my phone and get a "true" at&t phone that does LTE?
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If you use Straight Talk, then no matter what phone you use, you won't get LTE so it doesn't matter if you use a T989 or an AT&T phone.
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Thanks for the info. I'm still looking at options. Appreciate the quick reply.