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How fast can the desire go ???

The hd2 can go up to 1.5ghz I know so why can't the desire, you may ask 'why does it need to get faster its fast anyway ' well that's because I want to see how far it can go. ages ago our kernels were going up to 1.3ghz and surprisingly it was stable for me. Any answers
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DHD has a different processor

What? He is not even mentioning Desire HD, only HD2, which has an identical chip.

My fault, swear it said DHD!

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My fault, swear it said DHD!
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lol shouldve went to specsavers

Lol yeah , but seriously any idea
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No cpu is the same, even if its the same model, one person may be able to oc theres to 1.5 ghz. where as another may be only able to oc theres to 1.1 ghz. someone on another forum oc'd there droid x to 2.5ghz lol
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AndroHero said:
No cpu is the same, even if its the same model, one person may be able to oc theres to 1.5 ghz. where as another may be only able to oc theres to 1.1 ghz. someone on another forum oc'd there droid x to 2.5ghz lol
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This is very true not only that there is the stresses that your ROM and apps are taking on the CPU some will be OC'd to be extremely fast but never actually use that amount of CPU speed so will always be stable however some users will take theirs to the limit and will only remain stable at much less CPU speed.
It's pretty much the same with all processors but who really wants to fry their processor just checking how fast they can make it run. If 1.3Ghz is stable for you then that's all good bump it up yourself once your cpu burns out you know it can't go that fast

warlordxxx said:
This is very true not only that there is the stresses that your ROM and apps are taking on the CPU some will be OC'd to be extremely fast but never actually use that amount of CPU speed so will always be stable however some users will take theirs to the limit and will only remain stable at much less CPU speed.
It's pretty much the same with all processors but who really wants to fry their processor just checking how fast they can make it run. If 1.3Ghz is stable for you then that's all good bump it up yourself once your cpu burns out you know it can't go that fast
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+1 and if the op really wants to try it, why not throw a donation at a dev, get him to compile you a kernel that can be oc'd that much
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998Mhz does me just fine on my Desire. I used to run 1.51Ghz on my DHD but all I got from it was an awesome Quadrant score and a piss poor battery life. For day to day use I really don't notice the difference from 998Mhz to 1190Mhz with a HAVS/BFS kernel on my Desire.

my amoled went up to 1300 and my wife slcd wont go over 1030(i menan it will but any stronger activity will crash it)

2.5ghz overclocked with a droid x?
how good was the battery life on that?

I think 998 MHZ is enough for my Desire. 1.5 GHZ is nothing to me.

1.5 or 1.6 ghz kernel?

Is this able to be done and if so how do u go about compiling a kernel??
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Yes it is able to be done.
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I've seen the 1.8mhz custom kernels over on the EVO SHIFT 4G thread and the stock speed of that kernel is only 800mhz...and if they can push that a whole ghz past its regular operating speed...then I don't think 1.5 or 1.6 would be out of the question...id love to see that (HINT HINT TO OUR DEVELOPERS!! ;-)).

The problem that needs to be overcome with the current 1.4 kernels is that we're already at the top of the voltage specifications for the CPU (per manufacturers dox anyway) to keep the phone stable at 1.4. All chips are a little different - some phones might be stable with less voltage at this freq or others might be able to handle a little more juice. But, we're already at a 40% overclock... How fast do you really need this thing to be?

I personally would not use it if it was overclocked that high. That is to much for it. And the Shift has a different chip in it so it can be different overclock.

Moved to Q&A. And it can be done if you want to fry your phone

Some phones can't even handle 1.2ghz cause of the ****ty silicone on there chips. This includes my phone .
Thomasskull666 as a 1.4ghz kernel released to the public but he has a private kernel at 1.48ghz. He's trying to get a 1.5 for the public. The 1.6ghz we had on eclair was found out to be a placebo cause of error in the coding. With the phone clocked at 1.6ghz it actually ran at 1.0 and the rest of the phone slowed down. It was like those cartoons and you see a man walking at a steady pace but the background was moving at warp speed.
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That just seems too fast for this phone. Personally 1.2 GHz seems fast enough while 1.3 GHz is just a nice little cherry on top in terms of speed.

[Q] Overclocked Kernel

http://androidcommunity.com/samsung...-benchmarks-nearly-7800-in-quadrant-20111110/
I read this article and noticed they mentioned the G2X which is for T-Mobile. Is this kernel for our SGSII?
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that looks like the "classic" SGS2 clocked @1.2 Ghz stock

I'm guessing this will not help us in any way. Thanks for the quick response I'm at work and dont have enough down time to do my research.
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The phone in question is the one with the Exynos (spelling?) processor which supposedly runs faster and better than our Qualcomm one.
But by no means is our Qualcomm processor a slouch.

well according to that blog, they went from 1.2 Ghz stock to 1.6 Ghz... that's gonne be melting real soon
while our phones stock is 1.5 Ghz and even running at 1.8 Ghz continuously is still within safe temperature above normal
one night i fell asleep while playing a GPU CPU intensive game, and when i woke up the phone was WARM but not BURNING HOT
according to temp sensors it was at 48c
unless it goes beyond 50c i wouldn't be worried
my i7 extreme edition has been running on 60c 24/7 for the past 3 (almost 4) years just fine

(Q)I have a og evo and cant overclock it 1.2ghz.

I have a og evo I want to know why when I overclock to 1.2ghz it freezes my phone why does it do that ?
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Each Evo is different. Some of them can't handle that high overclock, or can't be undervolted very low. Each one is different, each has its limits.
I don't understand the big deal with overclocking. It burns your battery faster. I personally underclock, with little to no lag and is good enough for my casual gaming needs

Mine doesn't like a clock much at all. I can get about 1.1 before it starts locking up but even then it hangs a lot. I honestly don't see a difference from 1.0 to 1.2. Get a decent rom, good kernel and try out the v6 script an I almost guarantee you will like that better.

beaumontcali48 said:
I have a og evo I want to know why when I overclock to 1.2ghz it freezes my phone why does it do that ?
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Well for us to be able to help you, you would need to provide us with more details on how you are trying to accomplish this.

I use no frils cpu but have also tried setcpu and viperMOD I know that's the best way to overclock but is very confusing. Have any step by step instructions to of to 1.2 I know having higher voltages helps as well.
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Overclocking is overrated. If you need to overclock for every day usage, then something is wrong - at least in my opinion. Resource intensive gaming is different, but you shouldn't need to overclock for browsing, texting, casual games, etc.
Try out the V6 Supercharger script. I'm not currently using it, but have in the past and it seemed to make my phone more snappy. A lot of people swear by it and it's a great script, definitely worth a shot. There are other things you can do to speed up your phone without overclocking. I'd try other options first since overclocking will chew through your battery. Increase the dalvik vm heap size, there are plenty of free apps on the market to help with this task. Uninstall apps you don't use, I'll bet that you never use some of the apps on your phone. Back them up with Titanium Backup and you can restore them if you ever need them again.
In case you didn't already know, the Evo can't overclock past 1.2, I'm not 100% sure why - it has something to do with the processor.
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I never oc over 1075 and only when plugged in if i play a game I need to oc.for I just activate my charging profile and plug up and play 1.2 ghz is a good chance of doing serious.damage as these older scorpion processors get very very hot at that clock speed so they lock up to try and protect themselves from heat damage or they shut down the phone 1075 is as high as you should need to go for any games the evo can handle on the subpar gpu
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beaumontcali48 said:
...also tried setcpu and viperMOD I know that's the best way to overclock.
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I'm pretty sure viperMOD is more for undervolting than overclocking, which are not suppose to be combined together. I am running vipermod with max voltages - 50. Other nite was playing snes9x and was getting some lag with a game so I bumped max CPU up to 1.2. Phone went into a bootloop and had to superwipe and reflash everything. Don't know if its b/c vipermod + 1.2 CPU or just bumping up CPU. Didn't try it again.
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Get a shift. Mine runs fine at 1.9. But usually run it art 254-1200 on demand.

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I'm pretty sure viperMOD is more for undervolting than overclocking, which are not suppose to be combined together. I am running vipermod with max voltages - 50. Other nite was playing snes9x and was getting some lag with a game so I bumped max CPU up to 1.2. Phone went into a bootloop and had to superwipe and reflash everything. Don't know if its b/c vipermod + 1.2 CPU or just bumping up CPU. Didn't try it again.
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You can overclock and undervolt together just fine. You just need to ensure that every frequency has a high enough voltage to run the processor at that step. My Evo is overclocked and undervolted just fine, although IIRC I can only push it up to 1.1 GHz . My tablet is 1ghz to 1.6ghz and is undervolted as well, though.

merge rls 2.0, iron monkey, Droid overclock because of the profiles options. I set up four profiles including one for temp. sometimes i'm underclocking and sometimes overclocking but only up to 1.19 to prevent freeze and boot loops. Only downside is right at open Droid overclock needs su permission but that is my choice since profile changes at open.
Very snappy afterwards.
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When I had the 4G, I was never able to go above 1118, or somewhere around that. It would have freezing issues.
On my evo shift, I was able to do 1.7 gHz (compared to stock 800 mhz) ok. 1.6 pretty reliabily, and I could run 1.5 all day long. Some guys could do 1.9. It just depends on the phone.

Actually overclocking and undervolting is counter-productive. What you should do, is read carhaulers and ropodopes guide over at vaelepak. Its give some good useful info about how to set up a good aosp rom. I'm underclocked, undervolted, and still getting 1400+ benchmarks. Check it out bro. You'll love the results.
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tommy0823 said:
Actually overclocking and undervolting is counter-productive. What you should do, is read carhaulers and ropodopes guide over at vaelepak. Its give some good useful info about how to set up a good aosp rom. I'm underclocked, undervolted, and still getting 1400+ benchmarks. Check it out bro. You'll love the results.
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tommy0823 said:
Actually overclocking and undervolting is counter-productive. What you should do, is read carhaulers and ropodopes guide over at vaelepak. Its give some good useful info about how to set up a good aosp rom. I'm underclocked, undervolted, and still getting 1400+ benchmarks. Check it out bro. You'll love the results.
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What? Overclocking and undervolting are two completely different things, and they aren't mutually exclusive. Unless you can provide a good reason as to why it's counter productive to do both, I don't buy that at all. Just checked my phone, my overclock requires an extra 25 mV for all three steps I've overclocked. 25mV isnt much, and it certainly isn't going to kill my battery that much faster.
Besides, the only time the CPU is going to be entering these high power modes is when it needs to do work, and it's better to do work as fast as possible to go back to sleep. Would you rather wake up, do a mundane task for 5 minutes, then go back to sleep or wake up, do a task at 2x the speed while only consuming 30-50% more energy, then going back to sleep after only 2.5 minutes?
HUGI is real.
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Yea shot me the link too bro.
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First let me say I don't use viper mod or any voltage controlling mod.
On sense 3.0 roms such as mikg I over clock to 1152 and set the minimum to 384 and its smooth as butter. No problem and battery lasts all day.
On aosp however such as decks (I'm on it now) I underclock to 499 and leave the min at 254. Smooth as always and battery lasts forever.
Anything past 1152 is going to cause problems (at least in my experience) also the rom/kernel can effect how much you can overclock.
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Gary13579 said:
What? Overclocking and undervolting are two completely different things, and they aren't mutually exclusive. Unless you can provide a good reason as to why it's counter productive to do both, I don't buy that at all. Just checked my phone, my overclock requires an extra 25 mV for all three steps I've overclocked. 25mV isnt much, and it certainly isn't going to kill my battery that much faster.
Besides, the only time the CPU is going to be entering these high power modes is when it needs to do work, and it's better to do work as fast as possible to go back to sleep. Would you rather wake up, do a mundane task for 5 minutes, then go back to sleep or wake up, do a task at 2x the speed while only consuming 30-50% more energy, then going back to sleep after only 2.5 minutes?
HUGI is real.
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Its counter productive because it is giving less to something that needs more. (Don't take this post as me trying to be a ****. Just voicing how someone explained it to me a while ago)
Think of this as cars.
Lets say you have a nice fancy v8 mustang. Stock, everything is well, balanced.
If you start adding parts and get it pushing out 1000 horsepower (overclock) your most likely gonna need more feul (voltage) or at least stock amount flowing into the engine just to keep it running.
Now lets say you got that same 1000 horsepower gas destroying mustang and you start to lower the amount of gas flowing into the engine (undervolt (done in vipermod)) cylinders (CPU) wont get enough gas, it wont work, and your stuck going no where.
So if that made sense (did to me) then you can see why they are counter productive. Unless your using vipermod to overvolt (which idk if you can since I don't use it) then you can disregard this whole post
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Your car analogy is completely irrelevant. You can look up the exact voltages that the CPU runs on at every frequency, *even when overclocking*. Overclocking an Evo 1ghz to 1.2ghz takes maybe a 5% bump in voltage, and that 5% extra power is only going to be used *when the CPU is running at max speed* (which is only when there is a lot of work to do), and even then, it's *still better to let the CPU run at max speed with a tiny bit more power consumption than to cap the CPU at a slower speed and make it work for even longer*. Intel calls it HUGI, Hurry Up and Get Idle.
I know what I'm talking about, and I wish people would stop trying to argue with me based off of second hand speculation. I do this for a living, after all. There is absolutely nothing wrong with overclocking and undervolting, and it's the best way to get the most battery life *and* performance out of your phone, period.
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Gary13579 said:
Your car analogy is completely irrelevant. You can look up the exact voltages that the CPU runs on at every frequency, *even when overclocking*. Overclocking an Evo 1ghz to 1.2ghz takes maybe a 5% bump in voltage, and that 5% extra power is only going to be used *when the CPU is running at max speed* (which is only when there is a lot of work to do), and even then, it's *still better to let the CPU run at max speed with a tiny bit more power consumption than to cap the CPU at a slower speed and make it work for even longer*. Intel calls it HUGI, Hurry Up and Get Idle.
I know what I'm talking about, and I wish people would stop trying to argue with me based off of second hand speculation. I do this for a living, after all. There is absolutely nothing wrong with overclocking and undervolting, and it's the best way to get the most battery life *and* performance out of your phone, period.
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Hmm, *interesting*. I believe the best answer to the OP was covered rather well earlier. It's all about your rom/kernel/hardware combination. With all the variables to consider as relevant, your best bet is to experiment and find what works for your device. Don't check set on boot untill you are confident the set-up is stable. Higher is not always better with overclocking. My device runs blazingly well underclocked @768max. Gets insanely great battery @499max. However my quadrants are better @ 1036 than at 1190.
Great thing about android is you can experiment and learn through trial and error.
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[Q] R800x, Post your Overclock CPU speeds below....

OK, so I currently have my PLAY set to 1.2ghz. My first android phone I OCd from 600mhz to 1ghz and one day while playing a game I heard a loud pop noise, then my phone shut off and that was that... toast. So I have been extremely leary of overclocking now. I am aware there are users who have OCd their phone to 1.4+
My question is how safe is when I use No frills to OC is it ramping up the volts to get that extra power. Also according to the Snapdragon layout it lists the S2 in our phones as capable of 1-1.5ghz... does this mean I could technically go up to 1.5 and be OK? I have a large 3600mha mugen battery, so thats not an issue, but what I am afraid of is popping my phones brains out...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
Look at Snapdragon S2 section
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Also, it sayd for phones that use the above chip.. GSM only for Xperia PLAY... if that is the case does that mean R800x users are on a differerent chip? And if so what chip is it? Thanks in advance.

jgregoryj1 said:
OK, so I currently have my PLAY set to 1.2ghz. My first android phone I OCd from 600mhz to 1ghz and one day while playing a game I heard a loud pop noise, then my phone shut off and that was that... toast. So I have been extremely leary of overclocking now. I am aware there are users who have OCd their phone to 1.4+
My question is how safe is when I use No frills to OC is it ramping up the volts to get that extra power. Also according to the Snapdragon layout it lists the S2 in our phones as capable of 1-1.5ghz... does this mean I could technically go up to 1.5 and be OK? I have a large 3600mha mugen battery, so thats not an issue, but what I am afraid of is popping my phones brains out...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
Look at Snapdragon S2 section
MSM8255
Also, it sayd for phones that use the above chip.. GSM only for Xperia PLAY... if that is the case does that mean R800x users are on a differerent chip? And if so what chip is it? Thanks in advance.
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We're on the MSM8655 instead of the 8225. iirc, the difference is that it's cdma oriented as opposed to gsm
Each chip is different in what it can handle, so your best bet is to test it out, slowly. When your system starts to act funky, step down the voltage/speed levels.
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Ps. Tried running mine @ 2 ghz once and was promptly rewarded with a random reboot. It takes some time, but with mine I've figured out our can run 1.6 with no issues (I tend to keep it at to stock levels because my battery sucks )
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paxChristos said:
We're on the MSM8655 instead of the 8225. iirc, the difference is that it's cdma oriented as opposed to gsm
Each chip is different in what it can handle, so your best bet is to test it out, slowly. When your system starts to act funky, step down the voltage/speed levels.
Pax
Ps. Tried running mine @ 2 ghz once and was promptly rewarded with a random reboot. It takes some time, but with mine I've figured out our can run 1.6 with no issues (I tend to keep it at to stock levels because my battery sucks )
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K, thank you Pax for the feedback.

Just thought I would open this to everyone on R800x, interested if people could point there OC status below.
Mine is still on 1.2ghz. with Performance and BFQ

Highest I can go is 1.6, but I keep it around stock or slightly underclocked, with SetCPU profiles that increase to 1.2 for games and internet apps. smartassv2 and sio for governor and scheduler.

I heard that underclocking can end up reducing battery life over time. Is there truth to this or is it just a myth?

1.6Ghz and Performance when the screen is on.
Stock when the screen is off.
Battery last all day, but I don't use heavily.
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Solar.Plexus said:
I heard that underclocking can end up reducing battery life over time. Is there truth to this or is it just a myth?
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There's a large number of things that can adversely affect battery life, but by the time it becomes a problem, you'd most likely be on a new phone, anyway.
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I tried my r800x at 1.6ghz (running Cyanogenmod 9 with stock kernal), and I was stuck in a boot loop that I had to fix through CWM Recovery. I am now running stable at 1.4ghz.

Yeah I'm on my 2nd xplay after I tried to oc to 1.6. My phone got extremely hot so I pulled the battery to let it cool. Upon booting my touch screen was non responsive. I don't ever go past 1.4 now.
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Umm I got a r800x and the Max I can clock too is 1GHz but I see people up to 1.6 how do you do that?
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crazymonkey05 said:
Umm I got a r800x and the Max I can clock too is 1GHz but I see people up to 1.6 how do you do that?
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Custom kernel such as LuPuS or DooMKerneL

1.6 min and max. SIO, with performance governor, then I switch it after 30% and lower to powersave sio, 804-416 Max or whatever those numbers are.
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savage24x said:
1.6 min and max. SIO, with performance governor, then I switch it after 30% and lower to powersave sio, 804-416 Max or whatever those numbers are.
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Good luck with avoiding frying your phone

R800a 1.4 GHz, sio, ondemand, with Lupus GB v5 + Xperia NXT

My play can stable oc to 1.8ghz
Sprint Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch w/ Stock 4.0.4
Xperia Play R800X w/ supercharged stock 2.3.3 and doomkernel

Running the LuPuSv7 Kernel on AOKP Milestone 6.
Max CPU: 1612MHz
Min CPU: 249MHz
Scaling Governor: Superbad
~Set to Boot~
Runs SUPER smooth!
Battery performance; half of the day under heavy use/gaming, up to 2.5 days when I'm only calling and texting.