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EVO finicky about charging

Last night, I hooked my EVO up to the stock wall charger to charge it overnight (not uncommon). Since I've gotten the phone, I've been charging the phone upside down (display side down) because the orange light is really bright in a dark room.
This morning, I woke up to the battery signal beeping which is weird because it should only beep once at 15, 10, and 5%.
I've been trying to figure out why I could charge the phone last night and at first, it seemed that the phone just wouldn't charge while it was upside down. Since writing this post though, it seems like the phone won't even charge right side up. It will only charge when the cord is being pulled slightly down by gravity.
What I've noticed about my plug (phone-side) is that the two terminal bumps are no longer as pronounced or raised as they were the day before. I remember that I dropped the phone while plugged in twice last night (both times the phone became unplugged).
Does anybody else (EVO or otherwise) have this issue with the terminals becoing less raised and do you have any advice to return them to a more usable state? I can't stay up and make sure the phone is charging every night.
tl;dr: The terminal bumps on my phone-side plug on my charger/USB cable are no longer raised as they originally were. Is there any way I can fix it without buying a new cable?
(my phone will charge on the other stock charger cable for the other EVO we bought, but I need my own working cable)

I have had similar issue where I plugged it in to charge and in morning it was same level as night before. I turn it off at night while its charging. Had it happen yesterday while plugged in to car charger. Was at 42% and after an hour and half, it was only at 43%. Rebooting it usually fixes it.
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chewwy420 said:
I have had similar issue where I plugged it in to charge and in morning it was same level as night before. I turn it off at night while its charging. Had it happen yesterday while plugged in to car charger. Was at 42% and after an hour and half, it was only at 43%. Rebooting it usually fixes it.
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It's not a system or software problem. The phone will charge on another charger at any position. The problem is that my plug's terminals aren't stiff anymore.

Happened to me too. Dropped the phone while connected to pc and the two bumps receded. You can try to push on the metal plug (micro usb) of the cord with your hand so that the bumps are prominent again. U may need a bit of force.
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neshcom said:
The problem is that my plug's terminals aren't stiff anymore.
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<Insert Viagra-related joke here>

I have the same problem too now...
I swear to god i want to murder each and every person at the International Telecommunication Union for making the microUSB the international standard. I find it very very hard to believe that this is more durable than mini USB.. and it already proved itself by my phone not being able to charge after 2 months of owning it.
10,000 connects/disconnects my @$$
there was nothing wrong with miniUSB.. i using in nearly all my devices.. my external hard drives, usb hubs, etc.
btw 5/6 of my chargers are designed for the DROID.. im gonna test the oem htc one that came with the phone once i get back home later this week

I think the issue is with the USB cable supplied with the phone. That one is loose and wiggly on my phone, but the spare I bought from Radio Shack still fits tightly.

Had the same issue starting last night. Crazy...
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All 6 of my micro USB cables/chargers dont work with my phone..
it works on my roomate's phone, so my phone has a problem with its port.
It also seems like the iGo connectors from radioshack are larger than the motorola ones

A though on insight. If you look at the construction of the micro usb port used on the evo, it's joined at the bottom, this part is soldered to the board. If the port widens, it widens at the bottom, where the solder joint is... Im sure this leads to instability of the connections at the rear.
This creates the problem where you have to move your charging cable in such a way to make it work, because the actual pins that do anything are coming loose. The housing has good strength elsewhere though.
Motorola uses ports with the join at the opposing end of the connector, which would make them more reliable and user serviceable in end application...
Just something I have noticed while playing dr. on mine.
I have ordered this part and will install it in my evo when it gets in as a test. I'm interested in seeing if it will really make a difference.
The theory is that if it gets widened, you could just compress it down with a small tool vs replacing the whole jack.. Which is risky for inexperienced diy.

My phone charges/stops if I wiggle the cable. Its annoying because if I am not posting attention and plug it in, sometimes it's not even charging. Its also annoying to play robo defense while plugged in to my computer because if I move the wrong way it keeps going in and out of charging and prompting me with usb sync options...
My wifes Evo is fine with my cable so it has to be my phone...
What can I do? I bought this phone 2 weeks used on Craigslist to stay off contract...
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You can either buy another or get a second battery with a battery charger and swap the batteries back and forth.
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I had the same thing happen to me. Eventually the power plug actually disconnected from the board and was basically just sitting in the case. stopped charging altogether. If yky take it in they will say you physically damaged it unfortunately.
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And yes. I just read the OP and the phrase "appears to only charge when the cord is slightly pulled by gravity" is the exact phrase I used at the sprint store but they still said it was my fault.
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rathfon said:
I had the same thing happen to me. Eventually the power plug actually disconnected from the board and was basically just sitting in the case. stopped charging altogether. If yky take it in they will say you physically damaged it unfortunately.
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Yeah the usb port is probably about to come off the board and you won't be able to charge anymore. This same thing happened to me...I had to pay the $100 deductible to get another one...

Is it possible to replace the part? Seems like a pretty universal part.

Bowhuntr11 said:
Yeah the usb port is probably about to come off the board and you won't be able to charge anymore. This same thing happened to me...I had to pay the $100 deductible to get another one...
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rathfon said:
I had the same thing happen to me. Eventually the power plug actually disconnected from the board and was basically just sitting in the case. stopped charging altogether. If yky take it in they will say you physically damaged it unfortunately.
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Seriously? See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734613
My Evo is being sent to my local sprint store. I called Sprint, they said take it into the store for a warranty issue. The guy at the front desk didn't even turn on the phone, just plugged it into a charger to see it didn't charge and ordered me a new one and it was covered under warranty. I was given some extra batteries for the mean time while it's ordered.
Everything was free.

UrbanMuppet said:
Seriously? See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734613
My Evo is being sent to my local sprint store. I called Sprint, they said take it into the store for a warranty issue. The guy at the front desk didn't even turn on the phone, just plugged it into a charger to see it didn't charge and ordered me a new one and it was covered under warranty. I was given some extra batteries for the mean time while it's ordered.
Everything was free.
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Im new to sprint. Do u have to have insurion 7$ per month thinggy??

TurboX2 said:
Im new to sprint. Do u have to have insurion 7$ per month thinggy??
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No I don't. I am also more than 30 days into my activation and a new customer.

DanBergundy said:
Is it possible to replace the part? Seems like a pretty universal part.
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Currently working on this. See my post on the first page.

Evo not charging

So I recently I been noticing that my phone isnt holding its charge as great as it used to but i figured that was from my new job and its lack of cell coverage. Now this last week i have been noticing that I would hit the power button, the screen would go black but then 5seconds later the screen would come back on. Now as of 2 nights ago I cant even charge it. I changed cables and outlets. Went to two different outlets and now have it plugged into my pc. Still it just keeps it alive but not charged. Does this sound like a USB port issue or a battery. And if its battery where can I get one for cheap and fast. Thanks

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So I recently I been noticing that my phone isnt holding its charge as great as it used to but i figured that was from my new job and its lack of cell coverage. Now this last week i have been noticing that I would hit the power button, the screen would go black but then 5seconds later the screen would come back on. Now as of 2 nights ago I cant even charge it. I changed cables and outlets. Went to two different outlets and now have it plugged into my pc. Still it just keeps it alive but not charged. Does this sound like a USB port issue or a battery. And if its battery where can I get one for cheap and fast. Thanks
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You can find batteries pretty much anywhere on the internet from Ebay to Amazon. If you're replacing your battery, you may consider going with an extended one, just for the hell of it.
However, I doubt the battery is your issue. Your phone should recognize it's charging, even if your battery is having issues (to my knowledge).
Have you tried pulling your battery out, and then putting it back in and rebooting the phone?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-x-EXTENDED-BA...838159?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item27bba466cf
There you go. 20 bucks. lol. but I'd search ebay for the best deal. The main part is the wall charger. they work wonders. the USB part of those wall charges are crap. easier to use your laptop.

well i removed the battery and now its charging. I will see if this works. I was looking into getting an extended battery I just dont want one sooo bulky.

btw, if it is charging off the phone. then you've likely been a dumbass and damaged the USB port. lol. in that case. you might get stuck with changing out two batteries daily until you get an evo 3d. :-D

Nihility86 said:
well i removed the battery and now its charging. I will see if this works. I was looking into getting an extended battery I just dont want one sooo bulky.
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I've had my phone do strange things like this as well. Pulling the battery is always my first thing before I actually go in depth on trying to figure out what the issue is.
More often than not, for random things like that, pulling the battery will fix it.

Do I need a new battery?

I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S 2 X t989d running liquid smooth rc9
Haven't been able to charge it, with phone turned on, or off, battery will get up to maybe around 10, and then if left plugged in it actually uncharges. Started about 2 days ago when I used a dollar store cigarette lighter charger with a usb cable, and noticed after having it plugged in for about an hour, my battery of around 90% had gone down to 10%. It seemed to have been decharging.
For a month or two the micro usb input in the bottom has been slightly falty, as in certain charges/usb cables that don't fit snug have to be pulled in a certain angle in order to connect and start charging. Some cables fit snug and work fine.
Before I go looking for a new battery, is this for sure a battery problem? Anything I should do to diagnose/fix the problem?
If it's just the battery, will a telus store carry a replacement? Or where is the best place to go? Would prefer not to have to wait for shipping.
Thanks

InsouciantSoul said:
I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S 2 X t989d running liquid smooth rc9
Haven't been able to charge it, with phone turned on, or off, battery will get up to maybe around 10, and then if left plugged in it actually uncharges. Started about 2 days ago when I used a dollar store cigarette lighter charger with a usb cable, and noticed after having it plugged in for about an hour, my battery of around 90% had gone down to 10%. It seemed to have been decharging.
For a month or two the micro usb input in the bottom has been slightly falty, as in certain charges/usb cables that don't fit snug have to be pulled in a certain angle in order to connect and start charging. Some cables fit snug and work fine.
Before I go looking for a new battery, is this for sure a battery problem? Anything I should do to diagnose/fix the problem?
If it's just the battery, will a telus store carry a replacement? Or where is the best place to go? Would prefer not to have to wait for shipping.
Thanks
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Sounds more like a phone problem to me. The only battery issue that I know about is the bug that you can see in certain threads, where the phone won't charge if it's dead. In that case, you take out the battery for 10 minutes, then plug in the phone, then put the battery back in and let it charge.
Your problem seems different. However, i don't recommend dollar store chargers anyway. Try the charger and cable that came with your phone. If you need a new one, I would suggest getting one for your specific phone on eBay.
Beyond that, you've likely borked your usb port on your phone, either from using sub-standard cords, or perhaps someone has tripped over the wire while it was charging. These things happen but in that case you will have to have the phone replaced or repaired.

Well, I got it to fully charge. Oddly enough, right now the only thing that will charge it is my computer. The charger that comes with a phone, or my LG micro usb charger, or even my girlfriends pc, all seem to make the phone quickly discharge. Even when using the same usb cable that i plug into the LG charger, it works great on my computer.
I have a setting in my bios to make things charge faster through usb 3.0. I first tried without, then with, and both options work.
I think this must rule out that it's the micro usb port on the bottom of my phone. Using the same cable on different computers/plugs doesn't work. So it must be something weird with the battery, or maybe using that ****ty dollar store charger messed up how my rom/kernal is handling my battery?? Or does the rom/kernal even effect how a phone charges at all? I'm kind of confused..

I may try flashing a new rom. Any recommendations? Looks like liquid team is dead. Seemed to the best rom at the time, is there anything better now? Too many to test them all. Looking at all-star rom.. seems legit? pacman? What's stable and awesome?

I have played with so many of them... If you're looking to stay with the stock feel then try galaxy sbean - the unicef rom. Snappy and lots of goodies. Myself, I always come back to aokp. It's by far my favourite one out there.
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InsouciantSoul said:
I may try flashing a new rom. Any recommendations? Looks like liquid team is dead. Seemed to the best rom at the time, is there anything better now? Too many to test them all. Looking at all-star rom.. seems legit? pacman? What's stable and awesome?
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Pacman is the sh*t...

Phone all of a sudden not charging

So suddenly my note 2 running tweaked has started charging real slow then all off a sudden will not charge at all. Ive tried several chargers and now have noticed with or without the battery i can enter only download mode and it will show up on odin but not charge the battery. as soon as i try to restart instead of entering download mode it will try and start but just shut down. Does anyone have any thoughts or ideas or has seen this issue? thanks. so considering it will enter odin is it possibly a battery issue,although it will only go into download mode nothing else? thanks again

The issue is not the ROM, I can tell you that much.
I would suggest flashing the stock kernel. If that does not help the issue, you need a new battery. 100% positive. I say that because you claim you have tried other chargers.

i cant check but can anyone else confirm the phone wont work without battery in with it plugged into laptop

Rayn1328 said:
i cant check but can anyone else confirm the phone wont work without battery in with it plugged into laptop
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It doesn't. You have to have the battery in, even when plugged into a wall charger.
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kintwofan said:
It doesn't. You have to have the battery in, even when plugged into a wall charger.
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awesome i am currently only 6500 miles from home in south korea.......seems like samsung is pretty popular here. lol everyone has a note2 here i swear. gonna find a battery and hopefully it solves the issue.

I'm having a sort of similar issue.
This is a brand new issue for me. I've been rooted running Jedi X-14 for about 2 months or so now. I went on vacation to Guatemala and that's when the issues started arising. I brought along the same charger I used here back in the states, and it worked fine the first day or two, then new things started happening. It started taking about 5-10 seconds for the Note to realize the charger was plugged in. Then when the charger was plugged in the bottom of the screen (actual touch screen) started becoming a bit unresponsive and laggy. The phone no longer charged as fast as it used to. Then sometimes I would plug it in, and it wouldn't actually charge...it would make the noise recognizing something has been plugged in, but would say "Please Connect charger". If the phone completely died this was almost a guarantee and I would need to plug/unplug/plug until the dead battery icon changed into the charging battery icon.
I'm back in the states now, haven't had a chance to reset/install a new rom or anything, and my phone earlier tonight went dead. Spent a good 2 minutes fiddling with it, it eventually turned on, said no charger was inserted, and turned off. Since then I have not been able to get it on. As soon as I plug it in it shows dead battery, and very rarely it will start to boot up the battery charging symbols (battery symbol with green bar moving), but even if it did, it would do it for 1-3 seconds and shut off.
I'm able to get into Recovery Mode/Download Mode, and the phone will actually stay on as long as it's on the charger (wall outlet).
It's not the battery, as I have another official Note 2 battery (at work currently, and I switched them the other day, to see if the other battery was the issue). Also I have different USB cords/chargers, and they all give the same issue.
From CWM Recovery I was able to wipe Cache/Factory reset the phone, but it still does not boot up. Any advice is appreciated. I can probably get it on when I get my other battery which is near fully charged at work, but I won't be at work for another 2 days or so, so I'm looking for a fix so I can have a working phone in the meantime. Thanks in advance.
EDIT: I was able to charge the phone while in recovery mode to about 10%...It then turned on...after a few minutes however the charger just stopped charging the phone. Tried another charger same thing. Tried both chargers with an s3 I have, and they work perfectly fine. Even going back to recovery mode won't charge it anymore.

I was on vacation in Central America and the same thing happened to me. It works fine in the states now.
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Bkenigma said:
I'm having a sort of similar issue.
This is a brand new issue for me. I've been rooted running Jedi X-14 for about 2 months or so now. I went on vacation to Guatemala and that's when the issues started arising. I brought along the same charger I used here back in the states, and it worked fine the first day or two, then new things started happening. It started taking about 5-10 seconds for the Note to realize the charger was plugged in. Then when the charger was plugged in the bottom of the screen (actual touch screen) started becoming a bit unresponsive and laggy. The phone no longer charged as fast as it used to. Then sometimes I would plug it in, and it wouldn't actually charge...it would make the noise recognizing something has been plugged in, but would say "Please Connect charger". If the phone completely died this was almost a guarantee and I would need to plug/unplug/plug until the dead battery icon changed into the charging battery icon.
I'm back in the states now, haven't had a chance to reset/install a new rom or anything, and my phone earlier tonight went dead. Spent a good 2 minutes fiddling with it, it eventually turned on, said no charger was inserted, and turned off. Since then I have not been able to get it on. As soon as I plug it in it shows dead battery, and very rarely it will start to boot up the battery charging symbols (battery symbol with green bar moving), but even if it did, it would do it for 1-3 seconds and shut off.
I'm able to get into Recovery Mode/Download Mode, and the phone will actually stay on as long as it's on the charger (wall outlet).
It's not the battery, as I have another official Note 2 battery (at work currently, and I switched them the other day, to see if the other battery was the issue). Also I have different USB cords/chargers, and they all give the same issue.
From CWM Recovery I was able to wipe Cache/Factory reset the phone, but it still does not boot up. Any advice is appreciated. I can probably get it on when I get my other battery which is near fully charged at work, but I won't be at work for another 2 days or so, so I'm looking for a fix so I can have a working phone in the meantime. Thanks in advance.
EDIT: I was able to charge the phone while in recovery mode to about 10%...It then turned on...after a few minutes however the charger just stopped charging the phone. Tried another charger same thing. Tried both chargers with an s3 I have, and they work perfectly fine. Even going back to recovery mode won't charge it anymore.
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Maybe its the oversea power grid? If you are using just a wall converter (US to Wherever) and still using your american AC adapter, you have to realize the power grids arent as clean or as constant as they are here in the states and can actually ruin an AC charger. Can you charge it via your PC using the USB cable? I know the stock Kernel has a near trickle charge though but still, it might be enough to charge it for use.
Something to keep in mind, the S3 has a lower power draw than the note 2. The screen alone on the note2 can draw more than 600Mah which is more than a standard USB adapter can output. Thats not counting the draw on the battery from cpu frequency or radios.
Also I can also assure you that bad power grounds cause a touchscreen to act up. I have an iconia a500 that acts up in the same way with a generic charger, yet, with the stock charger it works fine. It has less power filtering in its charging circuitry. I still have ungrounded outlets in my house which cause the issue. Too much interference.
Just a guess as both you and ryan are experiencing similar issues and are both away from home.
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pyraxiate said:
Maybe its the oversea power grid? If you are using just a wall converter (US to Wherever) and still using your american AC adapter, you have to realize the power grids arent as clean or as constant as they are here in the states and can actually ruin an AC charger. Can you charge it via your PC using the USB cable? I know the stock Kernel has a near trickle charge though but still, it might be enough to charge it for use.
Something to keep in mind, the S3 has a lower power draw than the note 2. The screen alone on the note2 can draw more than 600Mah which is more than a standard USB adapter can output. Thats not counting the draw on the battery from cpu frequency or radios.
Also I can also assure you that bad power grounds cause a touchscreen to act up. I have an iconia a500 that acts up in the same way with a generic charger, yet, with the stock charger it works fine. It has less power filtering in its charging circuitry. I still have ungrounded outlets in my house which cause the issue. Too much interference.
Just a guess as both you and ryan are experiencing similar issues and are both away from home.
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I figured maybe my charger from the US I had brought to Guatemala had broken...when I got back to the States, I bought a Micro USB charger from one of those vending machines in the airport (says it's a 5V2 1A wall charger- 2.1A output)... Having tried different chargers, batteries and outlets, I can only assume it's something with the Hardware no? I was able to reset the phone, and installed Jedi Master 14 to replace Jedi X14, to see maybe if something with the ROM was faulty, and that didn't help.
Phone no longer charges in CWM Recovery like it did last night. Phone turns off, and has that dead battery symbol on the screen (empty battery with a loading circular icon on it). It will no longer go any further.
Tried charging thru my computer to the same effect... worst case scenario I have to do a warranty exchange, however I'd like to avoid it as I believe T-Mobile no longer offers the White Note 2 and I don't like the titanium colored one, I'd have to un-root/stock rom/Triangle Away, and then re-root new phone (I'm a complete N00b at this stuff so it's time consuming for me to do), and honestly I'd just to avoid it if at all possible.

Bkenigma said:
I figured maybe my charger from the US I had brought to Guatemala had broken...when I got back to the States, I bought a Micro USB charger from one of those vending machines in the airport (says it's a 5V2 1A wall charger- 2.1A output)... Having tried different chargers, batteries and outlets, I can only assume it's something with the Hardware no? I was able to reset the phone, and installed Jedi Master 14 to replace Jedi X14, to see maybe if something with the ROM was faulty, and that didn't help.
Phone no longer charges in CWM Recovery like it did last night. Phone turns off, and has that dead battery symbol on the screen (empty battery with a loading circular icon on it). It will no longer go any further.
Tried charging thru my computer to the same effect... worst case scenario I have to do a warranty exchange, however I'd like to avoid it as I believe T-Mobile no longer offers the White Note 2 and I don't like the titanium colored one, I'd have to un-root/stock rom/Triangle Away, and then re-root new phone (I'm a complete N00b at this stuff so it's time consuming for me to do), and honestly I'd just to avoid it if at all possible.
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Well, its tough to say without using a multimeter and checking a few points, but, a power spike could fry the charging circuit in the phone. Thats the worst case scenario. Only thing you could do if thats the case would be to get a second battery and external charger.
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Luckily both can be gotten from eBay for under usd $20. Its probably worth checking asurion to see if they have white ones in Stock. You just have to weigh the cost of a warranty replacement the hassle of changing batteries every day.
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Luckily both can be gotten from eBay for under usd $20. Its probably worth checking asurion to see if they have white ones in Stock. You just have to weigh the cost of a warranty replacement the hassle of changing batteries every day.
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I just experienced the same problem with my N2 over the weekend. Went to Bestbuy and got the $50 battery charger and extra battery (Check local availability) price matched to Amazon.com for $30 (with free shipping under more buying choices), brought it home to charge my completely wasted original battery and used the one in the box. Sure enough, it is the charging port. The new battery did the same thing as the old one, it showed it was being charged by the little lightning "icon" over the battery, but the battery was still draining. Although the lightning icon was there, there was no "bing-bing" tone (in the stock rom w/ root) to indicate the cable was ACTUALLY connected.
What is interesting is I think the battery icon shows up as "processing" if the USB pins are connected, but if just the +/- terminals are used in the cord (like the one that comes with the battery dock, not a MicroUSB cable -> USB port -> power adapter that comes with the phone, but power adapter -> MicroUSB) nothing registers on the phone even if it's completely powered down.
Called Tmo today and they are shipping a warranty replacement to me for free, I just have to wait for Ground shipping (didn't pay the $20 for "overnight"). Hopefully it'll come by next Wednesday, as I'm leaving on vacation then. With all this drama on the phone, I actually ended up ordering a Nokia 521 (give old WinMo a try again) from HSN over the weekend as a backup phone for $100. I felt like I was going to die not having a phone for 2 solid days.

Normally they send one out , then you return yours. The battery on this phone is phenomenal, so using an external battery charger and swapping them out would be viable while waiting for the new one to come in the mail id think.
Im hoping these phones dont get usb charging problems often. I might just mod mine to take wireless charging. My s2's microusb port died on me.
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pyraxiate said:
Normally they send one out , then you return yours. The battery on this phone is phenomenal, so using an external battery charger and swapping them out would be viable while waiting for the new one to come in the mail id think.
Im hoping these phones dont get usb charging problems often. I might just mod mine to take wireless charging. My s2's microusb port died on me.
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I'm actually quite disappointed that Tmo told Samsung to not wire up the wireless charging leads on this phone. I would be totally on-board for wireless charging a'la Nexus or my Touchpad. My Microusb connector wouldn't even see any use other than when to flash a rooted update.
I'm OK with a soldering iron, but I don't want to tear the thing apart to hook them up myself. Seems like it would be a great way to void the warranty, OR disable my Squaretrade warranty.

Just wanted to drop back by since I was about to send back my N2 to Tmo... I unrooted, triangle awayed and finally flashed "clean" firmware directly from Samsung via ODIN.... both batteries are now charging via both USB and Power adapter.
WTF

Mophie juice pack cases for the s8/8+ Review

THIS is what I've been waiting for. I know iPhone users who use these and they're great. May actually buy it as it's also wireless charging compatible:
http://www.mophie.com/shop/samsung-devices/juice-pack-galaxy-s8
Sooo.... The S8 is in stock, the S8+ is backordered 2 weeks. Not sure if I should just go ahead and get it. I was always envious of the iphone people who had these. Plus that it's wireless charging compatible is great.
Review of the mophie (first impressions):
tl;dr:
VERY slick. You WILL drop it from your hand
Will NOT allow NFC meaning NO Samsung/Android Pay, basic functionality doesn't work with this on your device
WILL NOT quick charge if you don't use their charger (cannot verify if this is true, don't have their charger, but will NOT quick charge using a Cheotech NOR a Samsung Quick charging Qi-enabled cradle)
DOES quick charge if you use a cable to plug it in directly that DOES do quick charging, if you try to use a fast-charging cradle the mophie will prevent fast charging even though the device supports it. I find this very unacceptable as the mophie is taking AWAY functionality that is inherent in the S8+ natively
Black, no other colors
Status button enables the device to charge from the mophie
No idea how long the mophie takes to charge from zero to 100 (mine showed up at zero)
Documentation is crap, don't bother using the documentation, they've adopted the ikea method of documentation, not at all useful
The review isn't going to include any photos until I can upload them, I'll walk through what I've got as far as initial impressions after just opening the packaging.
So, the case showed up today after a two-week backorder. It showed up about two weeks after I initially ordered it. It wasn't cheap, with shipping it was just a little under $110. The packaging was fine, the box was snug inside their shipping box.
The actual packaging the mophie came in was IMPOSSIBLE to open. It was one of those retail packaging boxes made to be hung from a hook. I tried sliding the inner container from the bottom. No good. I finally had to use a pen to pry open (aka rip) the top flap and take the inner case out.
So, the case is in two parts. a smaller top part and the battery case itself which covers about 90% of the device. It's slick. I don't mean in the way of ooh, cool, this is slick. This thing is going to slip from your hands. They should have roughed up or put some sort of grippy exterior on the outside of the case. It's REALLY slick. It's all black, apparently the only color they make it in.
IF you don't use their charger, they claim that no other Qi-enabled charger will fast charge. They're right. I have the Cheotech and that doesn't quick charge and the Samsung upright Qi charger and that doesn't quick charge. Plugging in the device into a cable made for quick charging, quick charges. Otherwise, not.
The unit came with no charge. I know this because as I plugged it in with my device inside the mophie, the mophie blinked and showed only one light. Not sure how long it's going to take to charge, even quick charging because the S8+ doesn't show the mophie at all as a secondary battery or case or anything. I tried an experiment where I unplugged the mophie with my device inside it and turned it on (you switch on the mophie by holding down the status button on the back). The device said charging at standard charge as though it were connected to a cable.
I wish there was an app or something that told me when and if the external mophie was charged or what the status was. Not sure if the device can even query the external mophie to find that information out.
If anyone knows of an app that will monitor the health of the mophie while in use and while charging, I'd be happy if you could recommend it.
Apologies for no photos but will upload them as soon as I can.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/accessories/mophie-juice-pack-t3607613

I had a long email exchange with Mophie about these, this is what I found out:
The Mophie for the S8+ is on backorder for 1-2 weeks. If you place your order now, they charge your card to make sure (they claim) that you get the first batch of the ones back in order. Guess the boat from Shenzen is taking a while.
The Mophie allows pass-through charging at standard rate if you're not using THEIR charging pad. It says universal wireless charging but only at standard and not quickcharge speeds. Also, on wireless charging the device charges first and then the Mophie
There is no other color other than black
The Mophie remains off and ready until you press and hold the button next to the indicator lights after which the Mophie starts trickling charge to the device
They charge sales tax
I ordered mine on backorder. Will be worth it to be able to get through a whole day without running down to nothing.

Hello
I have a question regarding battery cases : when using a battery case, does it use the main battery or does the phone draw directly the power from the battery case ?
Thank you

As stated in my post directly above yours:
The Mophie remains off and ready until you press and hold the button next to the indicator lights after which the Mophie starts trickling charge to the device
You have to manually turn the Mophie on to have it trickle a charge to the device.

Whoo hoo, just got the shipment notification for the mophie. Probably take a week or so, but whoo hoo.

I haven't seen a Mophie for the S8 or S8+. I am angry with them. They got articles all over the net about the launch and all they did to me is to lose patience. Not Good. Not Good at all. Will there be any pictures of the case? I want to see one. I am seriously thinking of getting a chinese one for 40$. Or wait for Zerolemon or I-blades. But Mophie... no way!

levjaskulski said:
I haven't seen a Mophie for the S8 or S8+. I am angry with them. They got articles all over the net about the launch and all they did to me is to lose patience. Not Good. Not Good at all. Will there be any pictures of the case? I want to see one. I am seriously thinking of getting a chinese one for 40$. Or wait for Zerolemon or I-blades. But Mophie... no way!
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the pictures on their website are pretty accurate. I'm about to update the review with more information about charging.
Stay AWAY from the iblades, they're crap. Pure and simple marketing crap. Read the website, they're really crap.

Hello
Can the secondary juice pack charge the phone directly without the charge force case?

lynx2k said:
Can the secondary juice pack charge the phone directly without the charge force case?
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huh? What does "without the charge force case" mean?