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[Q] G1 has CM7 but we don't?

The G1, the original Android phone released to the public, my third or fourth cell phone, has CM7 support. It was released by HTC as Pure-Android. It has CM7 and is no longer updated by T-Mobile or HTC, but CM7 still supports it, so I was wondering how they have it without any Kernel releases and we need a Kernel, even though our phone is newer. Answers please?

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Because they know that they aren't getting anything to work with, and know that if they want it, that have to build it. We are still receiving updates, so we have to wait. What'd be the point of building our own stuff, just to get official a month later? Plus, I thought Cyanonen stated that the cyanogen team was no longer supporting the g1 after cm6?
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.

People are still able to Port over CM7 to the G1 whether Cyanogen and the team support it or not. Oh and btw, your statement made no sense.

Makes sense to me. If we built our own stuff now, it would be obsolete when we get newer official updates.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.

Basically, they devs are keeping you happy by waiting. So much work goes into CM7 or MIUI that its not worth it to even try right now...no, they devs are not lazy. There just saving hours and HOURS of work that they don't have. It will be 1000 times easier to port any aosp build (CM7, MIUI) once we have gingerbread source. Right now its not worth the effort.

Lmao.... wtf?! Zander original just slapped you with a lightsaber lmaooooo!!!...Early mornin laugh! Gotta luv it!
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Original Android <3ers! said:
People are still able to Port over CM7 to the G1 whether Cyanogen and the team support it or not. Oh and btw, your statement made no sense.
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What doesn't make sense about that? Let's say you wanted gingerbread cookies. They take an hour to make, and you need to go buy some ingredients (lets ignore for the sake of the analogy that you could just buy gingerbread cookies while you're there), and you're not sure if the recipe is any good. So, all totaled, lets say ~2 hours, and you don't know until you're done if they'll even taste good. Now, let's say it's also the case that your wife was going to be home in 2.5-3 hours, and was bringing some leftover Gingerbread cookies someone brought into work home with her. That fact would sort of render your plan rather futile and pointless, would it not? Even if everything worked perfectly, that's a lot of effort to have cookies marginally quicker than you otherwise could have, and there's still opportunity cost of everything you COULD have been doing in that time.

vita10gy said:
and there's still opportunity cost of everything you COULD have been doing in that time.
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like sitting on your hands waiting?

austin420 said:
like sitting on your hands waiting?
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I'm quite certain the devs don't toggle between developing for the Epic and laying in wait to develop for the epic.
In a real world sense, we're better off that they wait until it's most efficient. They can get other thing done (both Epic wise, and Honey-do list wise), catch up on all the tv they want, etc. The average dev is probably only going to devote a finite amount of their precious little time on this planet. I'd rather wait a month or two, and get a super phone, then have everyone spin their wheels for 2 months, and then quit or be burned out just in time to actually do something.
As always, if you don't like it, the SDK is open to everyone, and Java resources are everywhere.

[Q] [Gingerbread]Lack of progress

I've noticed, after hovering without an account here for the last 6 months, that there is a lack of development progress for the gingerbread port from xdandroid. I know they are busy with the froyo builds and what not. But has there been ANY progress made for GB? I'm running the alpha build and it is noticeably faster than froyo on my tp2. The inbound sound when receiving and making calls is clearer. It also seems to handle my cell phone signal better than froyo. If there is anything new for gingerbread but hasn't been released could someone point me in the right direction? I am willing to use my phone for the devlopers to test new builds on and report back every function that works and doesn't if need be. Thanks in advance for anyone who answers.

PandaEmu said:
I've noticed, after hovering without an account here for the last 6 months....
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Same here! I just visited the gingerbread thread, and arrrghhh (i'll learn the correct spelling eventually, or is that right?) basically said that they have to port the fixes they made with FRXO7 to gingerbread, so progress seems to be getting made

Sweet. Im excited about it. I prefer gingerbread to froyo. It handles data better I've noticed. I'll be donating some of my time going through the source to see if I can help at all. I have experience in c++/c# coding emulators for MMOs. I know its a big jump from games to an OS but eh I would like to help as much as possible. I'll let ya know if i do any improvements myself.

Just tried it in gingerbread, just for kicks. and i found out that...
the same thing happens (-_-) still testing!

I managed to get it to work on GB just fine. no issues no lag oddly enough.
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Highly considering inventing a phone with upgradable RAM and CPUs =x

PandaEmu said:
Highly considering inventing a phone with upgradable RAM and CPUs =x
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Hope about considering the mozilla seabird as your base?
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sure if the concept ever becomes REAL lol

any devs into GLIDE CM 10???

the long waited tegra 2 ics is now available so means the drivers to put HWA into function is available too...is it mean that a full working CM10 (or jellybean) rom will be developed soon seems all the crucial drivers are available now...
but 1 thing i found that there are less strong or experienced developers are using the glide as their phone and cause us have less power custom roms and kernels...
maybe we need to promote our phone to those optimus 2x and galaxy r developers...they have strong devs there...cause the devs were using those phone which is much popular and familiar than the glide, but they have lower hardware spec, no keyboard and with 512 only ram...and the devs did a good job on optimized them...
i believe our phone will be freaking STRONG if there are numbers of devs willing to optimized it...

jamez.tankh said:
the long waited tegra 2 ics is now available so means the drivers to put HWA into function is available too...is it mean that a full working CM10 (or jellybean) rom will be developed soon seems all the crucial drivers are available now...
but 1 thing i found that there are less strong or experienced developers are using the glide as their phone and cause us have less power custom roms and kernels...
maybe we need to promote our phone to those optimus 2x and galaxy r developers...they have strong devs there...cause the devs were using those phone which is much popular and familiar than the glide, but they have lower hardware spec, no keyboard and with 512 only ram...and the devs did a good job on optimized them...
i believe our phone will be freaking STRONG if there are numbers of devs willing to optimized it...
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Yes but people are usually interested in the hardware they have purchased. So how do you get someone who does not have the hardware interested in helping us out? Please recall even DMan had someone lone him a phone for him to help out. The glide is a great phone but unfortunately has not sold as much, as other popular phones.

dudejb said:
Yes but people are usually interested in the hardware they have purchased. So how do you get someone who does not have the hardware interested in helping us out? Please recall even DMan had someone lone him a phone for him to help out. The glide is a great phone but unfortunately has not sold as much, as other popular phones.
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maybe we can gift a GLIDE to devs like owain94 from optimus 2x or arcee...they are strong devs and they have a real good base knowledge on tegra 2 device...

We have dman workng on a rom as we speak... this should of been posted in the general section to btw

I suspect he is but has dman said he is working on a new ROM? I'm curious if he is making his own ROM or porting CM. I think Inception was just a stripped down official version of 2.3.5. I would love to see a CM 10 port and not just a repacked stripped ROM.

Oh my gosh with all the discussions about this. BE PATIENT. You all have no idea how much time it takes. Take a look at Inception. It took 1 week just to theme. If you want a stable, JB rom for bounty, the Collective doesn't release half ass working JB builds. Take a look
dman3285 from the Gnote thread said:
Jellybean will be coming soon.. but only when its stable.. no need to release a half ass working build.. just an update.. we are known for stability, not for being the first to the finish line, quality is our goal...:thumbup:
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Please forgive me, I'm sorry for being harsh but I've seen so many threads about this in such a short period of time. Dman and his team the Collective dev for 4-5 devices. I've been learning dev for 6 months and so far all I can do is basic tweaking to apks and decompiling them, as well as putting them in a zip.
Seriously. Just be patient, some of you. Reported for moving, btw
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This is not a port. It's compiling from source. 10 times harder and time consuming. But less chance for bugs.
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Inception was made without the device. It would've been near impossible to build AOSP blindly. (AOSP is pure, vanilla, Android)
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This is not an opinion poll. The devs make it how they like it, you're lucky they post it for you. They could just keep it to themselves. Feature requests are always good, but not "I like CM but I don't want a stripped modified ROM"
Thanks

After having spent the past 5 hours flashing various kernels/ROMs in my gf's xperia x10 mini pro due to various bugs, I will have to agree - in the end, stability is a must, and I am certain dman is working his magic as we speak, no need to get impatient

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Everyone is being patient. Were thankful to have any devs working on this device. I just havent seen any posts directly from dman about what he's working on for the Glide. I could have missed the post, thats why I asked. But it would be cool to see a post directly from him about it and not just speculation.

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No matter how patient everyone is being, these types of threads still keep getting started in Development. They do not belong there. They belong in General. Keep them in general. Thank you for your cooperation.

Please, everyone, just take a sit, grab a drink, and wait for dman to do his magic

I'm all for quality over a rushed job. Dev'ing is hard, especially for an under-popular device like our own. Fewer fellow devs to help out and carry the load, and more people putting the pressure on because they're impatiently excited.
Give the devs their time, it will be alright. I'm still happy with INCEPTIONv1, more so than the leaked ICS.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1940677
CM10 Beta for Samsung Captivate Glide
OP update the post!!!!

CyanogenMod 7 Project

Hi guys,
So for the past week I think I have at least wiped/flashed/Odin'd different ROMs for my new Captivate Glide at least a hundred times. I've finally settled on thegreatergood's LiteROM 0.9.0 and it's working great for me. Not only the one ROM though as I've had to find many workarounds for different things. Flashables/kernels/apks you name it. Although I have no regrets and I'm really proud of how It's like a beast in my pocket, I am quite bothered by one thing which is that the whole thing feels like a big piece of patchwork..
Coming from a HTC Desire Z running CM7 serving me loyally for many years, I miss that officiality (<-- oops, red snakes.. not sure that's a word. Whatever. Shakespeare made his own words too right? ) and the stability that CM7 offered.
I'm a humble man, and possibly carry the apologetic traits of a typical Canadian. Instead of whining and/or nagging some senior developer to hurry up on their ICS or JB development I've decided to build my own CM instead.
However some thought, I think the reason why the JB based experimental CM 10.1s for the Captivate Glide have been a difficult task is because it's probably quite a challenge to build something from something that's not currently very well understood, namely the JB. So I thought, why not just build I nice and stable ROM based off of GB and if it does well it could probably officiated as a CM7 port for the Captivate Glide.
I have a feeling that this is a very plausible task. But I have no way to do it alone.. I have zilch experience in development in anything, had to drop out of my C++ course and have been doing nothing but lurking and leeching since I started modding when I was eleven. All I have is a vision. If someone could point me in the right direction or even form a development team with me, I would be very grateful.
And if this goes well, I will have gained some long overdue experience
So.. Anyone?
P.S. I guess this goes in this forum too. But my phone gets real angry when I flash certain things onto it. The biggest issue currently is that it will freeze and crash (more specifically the screen will freeze and fade into white lines..) whenever I try to use ClockWorkMod Recovery.. I dunno if the crappy 1500 mAh China battery I got ripped off with is an issue but I'm waiting on an OEM one in the mail..

Post in general not development bub...
And were on cm 10. Why fall back?
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I intend to turn it into development thread. But will have a better audience over General?
And maybe see it more like an educational project with a usuable product?
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hey bud im with you ... though I think CM9 would be better as ICS has been released, stable, and has a few more tweaks and features that CM7 didn't ... things like in JB where we have a transparent notification pull down, control over the dpi of certain apps etc.
First thing you should do is readup on the compile cm10 from source thread, get your feet wet there it'll get you all setup with a development system .. Linux is a must so I hope that you're savvy in the *nix shell or things will be antagonistic right off the start ...
I installed the CM9 recently and radio etc didn't work .. Guaranteed there is tonnes of information across all devices on xda-developers and even in general development threads.
Scroll through these forums, find the github links and learn how to setup your own, download the sources for the kernels from the other devs (theres a couple CM10.1s out there).
CM7 .. while I appreciate where you're coming from as i LOVED having CM7 on my Galaxy ACE - everything just worked... battery was great, it looked cool, and it was just off the stock enough to be unique and rub in iPhone users' faces
If I had the time I'd take it on with you .. chart your work and links that have helped you as you go along.

maybe he say that, because the glide have GB and ics officialy and not JB, so, if i understand what he say, maybe a romCM based y that version can be more stable, and less bugs, i was thinking about a CM9 too. But, if i remember correctly, it must create a device tree and a lot of thing, but i am not sure becausea never do a rom.

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maybe he say that, because the glide have GB and ics officialy and not JB, so, if i understand what he say, maybe a romCM based y that version can be more stable, and less bugs, i was thinking about a CM9 too. But, if i remember correctly, it must create a device tree and a lot of thing, but i am not sure becausea never do a rom.
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CM9 is based on ICS 4.0.4 ...
Check this link, not for our device but it offers some good insight to CM7 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273718
Another one for CM9 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20844007
.... maybe I should just build a linux VM and give it a go in my spare time .... we're so starved for developers for our glides even amateur contributions can't hurt .... in the 2nd link the guy said it took him 11 months to learn how to mod for ICS from no experience so ..... depends on how much you want to commit to it ..

yohan4ws said:
CM9 is based on ICS 4.0.4 ...
Check this link, not for our device but it offers some good insight : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273718
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yes, i know that, and i was thinking that a cm9 (because there is a ics fully working in the glide) can be a good option, but not sure

This doesn't belong here, please, some mod, move this to General. Thanks

chrisyjwai said:
I intend to turn it into development thread. But will have a better audience over General?
And maybe see it more like an educational project with a usuable product?
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Flagged to be moved to general. If this turns into a dev thread, then you can flag to move it to the dev section, but you only post in the dev sections if you actually have a product or are actively working on something.
Your intentions seem great, but never wait for someone else to help you, otherwise it will never get done. No one is going to carry you through learning this.
There's a ton of guides out there on how to build, port, cherry pick CM commits, etc. etc. Go find them and start learning. Ask SPECIFIC questions if you have any.
No one shows up to college on day 1 and says I'd like to learn how to be a doctor, engineer, pharmacist, journalist, etc. There's a lot of steps in between. So go and get started.

gtmaster303 said:
No one shows up to college on day 1 and says I'd like to learn how to be a doctor, engineer, pharmacist, journalist, etc.
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That doesn't make any sense.... lots of people show up to college and say that, and then enroll in the courses to do that ..

why are we waiting...

Waiting for the sources that is, what are porters planning on sticking on this? Personally I want the sources to attempt to port Sailfish, only reason I bough the phone. I currently have the Nexus 5 and the OS runs buttery smooth thanks to the porters over at #sailfishos-porters
Am even wondering did I make a mistake buying this device when the Nexus 5, is more than enough omph to power the OS. But I've got it and gotta try, to atleast expand my own knowledge base.
also do you guys know how chainfire managed to build the kernel for it without the sources?

WTF?
The phone has been out for less than a month. Have some patience or start learning to develop yourself, rather than creating a useless thread, just to whine.

I got my 5x last Tuesday and forgot how little I like "pure" android. I think the usual progression is flash aosp then flash cyanogenmod once the nightlies start to stabilize. I know I'm in the minority but the nexus phones usually have too much Google on them for my taste. I like the hardware, but the software is another story.
At any rate, I'm also waiting for the binaries and device tree so that I can start building my own.

m4r0v3r said:
Waiting for the sources that is, what are porters planning on sticking on this? Personally I want the sources to attempt to port Sailfish, only reason I bough the phone. I currently have the Nexus 5 and the OS runs buttery smooth thanks to the porters over at #sailfishos-porters
Am even wondering did I make a mistake buying this device when the Nexus 5, is more than enough omph to power the OS. But I've got it and gotta try, to atleast expand my own knowledge base.
also do you guys know how chainfire managed to build the kernel for it without the sources?
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If you knew much about how android works, you'd know that chainfire didn't make a kernel. He took the boot image and modified some fstab, prop, and sepolicy stuff, repackaged it, and released it. He didn't build his own kernel.
In any case, I'm curious about this, how long does it usually take google to release their sources?
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sn0warmy said:
WTF?
The phone has been out for less than a month. Have some patience or start learning to develop yourself, rather than creating a useless thread, just to whine.
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oh yeah Ill just go and create a kernel, and while am at it, I may as well write my own drivers. Maybe I'll call my kernel linox, and adopt this policy of sharing my source code so other people could collaborate. Maybe using some sort of version control, call Hit or something, maybe on some website called HitHub.
Yeah that sounds like a good way to develop it...Or Google could hurry the **** up and release the sources and binaries so I wouldn't have to.
Well if you read my post you'd see I was curious about what people wanted to port.
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If you knew much about how android works, you'd know that chainfire didn't make a kernel. He took the boot image and modified some fstab, prop, and sepolicy stuff, repackaged it, and released it. He didn't build his own kernel.
In any case, I'm curious about this, how long does it usually take google to release their sources?
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Not make but people have been saying it was built with forceencrypt disabled so I thought he built the kernel with that flag, (ie he had the sources). But it seems thats not the place to change it

Wow the self-entitlement is real nowadays, patience bro. You cant have everything instantly when you want it.
m4r0v3r said:
oh yeah Ill just go and create a kernel, and while am at it, I may as well write my own drivers. Maybe I'll call my kernel linox, and adopt this policy of sharing my source code so other people could collaborate. Maybe using some sort of version control, call Hit or something, maybe on some website called HitHub.
Yeah that sounds like a good way to develop it...Or Google could hurry the **** up and release the sources and binaries so I wouldn't have to.
Well if you read my post you'd see I was curious about what people wanted to port.
Not make but people have been saying it was built with forceencrypt disabled so I thought he built the kernel with that flag, (ie he had the sources). But it seems thats not the place to change it
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timjp692 said:
Wow the self-entitlement is real nowadays, patience bro. You cant have everything instantly when you want it.
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what to expect an open source based phone to have the sources with it?
No I know I can't have everything when I instantly want it, but really what could be the reason for the delay. Since am already pretty pissed about the force encryption.

m4r0v3r said:
what to expect an open source based phone to have the sources with it?
No I know I can't have everything when I instantly want it, but really what could be the reason for the delay. Since am already pretty pissed about the force encryption.
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I'm sorry, but you sound like a whiney little 12 year old who is used to having everything they want RIGHT when they want it. Kind of sums up the turn this forum has taken over the past couple of years.
In the real world you'll learn that good things take time. The phrase, "patience is a virtue" holds true merit.

Offer a bounty if you're that impatient.

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I'm sorry, but you sound like a whiney little 12 year old who is used to having everything they want RIGHT when they want it. Kind of sums up the turn this forum has taken over the past couple of years.
In the real world you'll learn that good things take time. The phrase, "patience is a virtue" holds true merit.
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Apology accepted.

bblzd said:
Offer a bounty if you're that impatient.
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For what exactly? Someone to break in Google servers and take the source code? lol

m4r0v3r said:
For what exactly? Someone to break in Google servers and take the source code? lol
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I'm waiting too- it's not like google is still working on the binary drivers and just building the production rom with hacked up device trees until they get the real ones. I could be mis-remembering, but in the past, I thought the factory roms and binary drivers were available the day the devices were released.
I can certainly understand being patient with devs who are working on roms (for free/beer/donations), but google is done with the rom and has already released it to production. The factory image for the 6p was delayed as well. It's not a secret- they are going to push it to every one who bought a phone. My conspiracy theory is that google is trying to bury aosp, and merging android and chrome will be another stab into the heart of both privacy and freedom.

and its outtt

m4r0v3r said:
and its outtt
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Waiting for some real nexus thing then