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epic on verizon

What the possibility of flashing an epic to work properly on vz? I see it can be done on cricket....I'm not worried about Verizon having the meid in the system....anyone out there do this? Thanks

suzook said:
What the possibility of flashing an epic to work properly on vz? I see it can be done on cricket....I'm not worried about Verizon having the meid in the system....anyone out there do this? Thanks
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Why is it you're not worried about Verizon having the MEID in their system? That is all you should be worried about. If it is not in their system, they will not allow the device on their network.

I can have it added.....so back to my original question.......can it be done??

I'm sure there's a way, you just won't have 4g. May need msl. Just use getprop to get it

Of course its Possible i have did for 2 Carriers in India why not Verizon, get your MEID added and be in touch be me.

suzook said:
I can have it added.....so back to my original question.......can it be done??
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If you can have it added then I think you're going to have to find out through trial and error, as not many have that kind of access. Let us know how it goes.

if i could do it id take my epic to verizon how do i do it!

churro7 said:
if i could do it id take my epic to verizon how do i do it!
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Make a donation to suzook to get added to the system, lol.

As far as I know, I remember some people said they could call in and say they were an Alltel orphan - but since it's been a while since the merger I doubt that still works.

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i have it on vz network, talk and text work fine, but data is a no go, i have tried the same methods for cricket...but stillno go. im hoping someone can point me in the right direction

Verizon won't stop you from using a Sprint phone, but they won't help you, either. Assuming the software radio itself isn't the problem, you're basically going to have to wait until there are AOSP kernel and Android builds for both the Epic and Fascinate, then figure out how they differ and hack an Epic build to incorporate the changes in the Fascinate build. Then copy over Verizon's own apps for things like voicemail.
If you need a new radio, all bets are off. AFAIK, radio firmware signed with Verizon's key won't install on a phone expecting Sprint's cert, and vice-versa. Unlike Android itself, the radio firmware is very, very encryption-locked, because it's basically impossible to get a phone with software radio past the FCC if it's not (unless you're only planning to sell it to licensed ham radio operators, and have the means to enforce it). I'm not sure whether it was possible to reflash Sprint WinMo phones to work on Verizon because the radios used the same firmware, because the radio firmware was signed by HTC in both cases, or because someone found a way to defeat the protection.
You'll probably have better luck if you try to get 1xRTT working before EVDO. I believe there's a small difference between the way Sprint and Verizon's EVDO works (one that's entirely due to software and not insurmountable, but might be the reason why Sprint phones doing data roaming on Verizon seem to be limited to 1xRTT, assuming it's not just a business decision by Verizon and/or Sprint to allow Sprint users to only roam at 1xRTT.

Has anyone been able to solve this? I have my epic for sale or trade for a verizon phone with no offers... So I'm curious if I can just take it to verizon with me.. since its bad ass..

I fixed the data not working on an epic flashed to cricket by changing the msl to 000000 and dialing *228 so maybe try that. If you can manage to find a cool vzw tech rep get them to go into switch view in acss, go to the data section and uncheck the box that requires validated shared secret data for data use. I would help you myself but I no longer work there. Directv has better benefits I wish you the best of luck bro.
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lafronz said:
I fixed the data not working on an epic flashed to cricket by changing the msl to 000000 and dialing *228 so maybe try that. If you can manage to find a cool vzw tech rep get them to go into switch view in acss, go to the data section and uncheck the box that requires validated shared secret data for data use. I would help you myself but I no longer work there. Directv has better benefits I wish you the best of luck bro.
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if someone has a phone active already, they can extract the shared secret and write it to the Epic.
No radio firmware or ROM will make it work or not work.
lots of sprint phones are active on PagePlus. They will activate almost any CDMA device. PagePlus is a vzw MVNO.
I've said enough.. any more might be breaking the rules

I'm tryin to figure out how to do the whole entire thing from the beginning.

Nickdroid86 said:
I'm tryin to figure out how to do the whole entire thing from the beginning.
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we're not allowed to discuss that here. it's against XDA rules.
I'm sure there are many here that could give you a description of what needs done via PM or something, but we can't discuss it in the open forum.

daddymikey1975 said:
we're not allowed to discuss that here. it's against XDA rules.
I'm sure there are many here that could give you a description of what needs done via PM or something, but we can't discuss it in the open forum.
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It suddenly became against the rules to discuss using phones on different carriers? This is no different from discussing bringing a T-Mobile phone to AT&T and making things work -.- Sure there's no SIM card in this discussion and the technology is different, but that's it.

It is not against the rules. Only making a phone with a bad esn work is.
But this is a question and belongs in Q&A
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suzook said:
What the possibility of flashing an epic to work properly on vz? I see it can be done on cricket....I'm not worried about Verizon having the meid in the system....anyone out there do this? Thanks
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but what I've done to make it works for our carrier in Indonesia was back to EC05 bml stock rom then googling about cdma workshop & qpstn then applied them to your epic with Verizon parameters

[Q] restoring evo to sprint network from pageplus

I bought an evo that is on page plus. How do I go about getting it back onto sprint?

I ran RUU_SuperSonic_S_Sprint_WWE_3.30.651.2_Radio_2.15.00.09.01_NV_1.77_003_release_154209_signed
I get verizon when I do a *228

I would have to say there is no way to do it. For the evo to be on pageplus or any other network besides sprint ESN cloning would most definitely be involved. Rendering the phone useless on sprint's network because the ESN will either be bad or from a different phone.
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Another thought, along those lines, is why was it flashed to another carrier in the first place....I would imagine the majority of the time this happens would be due to a bad esn ....
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just help the guy out
then why would he be flashing it back. either way. he needs help and were all here to support each other.

JSZESZE said:
I would have to say there is no way to do it. For the evo to be on pageplus or any other network besides sprint ESN cloning would most definitely be involved. Rendering the phone useless on sprint's network because the ESN will either be bad or from a different phone.
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ESN cloning is most likely NOT involved. More than likely that phone has a bad ESN with Sprint (stolen, lost, etc), hence the reason it was reflashed for Page Plus to begin with.
Dialogic, odds are that phone cannot be used with Sprint ever again. The easiest thing to do is simply to contact Sprint or go to a store and verify whether or not that Evo can even be activated on Sprint still.

evoguru said:
then why would he be flashing it back. either way. he needs help and were all here to support each other.
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Im not trying to discourage him....im just saying he may want to call sprint and check the esn first....
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too much off topic bs.

Samsung devices don't need anything backed up as far as wimax is considered ...
So one little question, what's the benefit of changing the wimax Mac? I assume spoofing, but why? Serious question lol
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squshy 7 said:
Samsung devices don't need anything backed up as far as wimax is considered ...
So one little question, what's the benefit of changing the wimax Mac? I assume spoofing, but why? Serious question lol
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In addition, changing the Mac address is going to screw things up since Sprint's numbering/handset system uses that to route and authenticate wimax traffic. Why the hell would you want to do this?
I guess spoofing another 4G Wimax device... but not only would you have to spoof the wimax info but you'd have to spoof everything else as well....

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THIS THREAD IS TO FURTHER DEVELOPMENT NOT QUESTION WHY.
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Sounds like your wanting to do some dirty deeds dirt cheap.

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I'm not buying this...isnt this like esn cloning? Which is illegal here and In General?
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autoprime said:
this has nothing to do with backing up files for safety. I want to use a different MAC address than the current one written to the phone. On the Epic 4G this was a STOCK option. I just want to see it back.
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An option that was put there by Samsung in the original Epic 4G illegal? No.
Stealing someones MAC address to use as your own illegal? Yes.
See the difference? Editing a MAC address is not illegal. The MAC address is not the ESN. It is not the sole hardware identification ID. The ESN editing legal/illegal debate is for another time/place.
All the wannabe lawyers can go elsewhere. Nothing here is illegal.
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Ok - so you want to use a different MAC address from say a Wimax laptop on your phone instead of the MAC address already there. Fine - makes some sense. But how are you going to activate the phone? It needs to pull a profile from Sprint, and it uses 1xRTT first to do so in order to validate a number of other things associated with the device before it finishes the "Update profile" task. The way Sprint's system is, all of those things are tied together at the ESN level - so how would this work? How would this help with CM7+?
And you're right - it's not the sole hardware identification. But let me break this down for you:
Subcriber relates to a ESN/Phone#/MSID combination
ESN relates to MEID, MAC address, manufacturer, model, etc.
Just changing the MAC address isn't going to help you since you've now broken the relationships and the provisioning and routing path. So what's really at play here?
EDIT: Oh - and sure the option was there on the Epic 4G - but it wasn't for the user, but for the Sprint/Samsung tech's and provisioning, etc. You just happen to be able to get there because someone dumped the # codes needed and you have your MSL. Does not mean it was provided for you and should be something you should mess around with. I mean, sure - a shotgun has a barrel you can look down but that doesn't mean it was meant for you to do so... just ask Mr. Cobain.

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The phone doesn't need to be activated on Sprint's network at all. Throw out all the standard thinking that you have to buy this at a Sprint store and tie it to a Sprint contract. I can walk into a Best Buy and buy the phone off contract. The WiMAX radio on our phones works independently from the CDMA/EVDO/WIFI/BT radios. An unactivated phone with working WiMAX still gets working data. Think SIP calls, Google Voice SMS, Internet Browsing, Email, Netflix/Hulu/HBO Go, Kindle, Google Music, Google Maps, Twitter, Camera/Cam w/Flickr support etc.. all over free/cheap WiFi/WiMAX-only connection. Oh, and all this fits in your pocket.
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Yep - you can use this phone without data via Wifi as well. My question, and it will help in this discussion, is how are you going to provision this phone? Just changing the MAC address is not going to allow the provisioning you need. This phone was programmed to interact with the specific Ensemble provisioning system put together by Amdocs for Sprint Nextel (and subsequently Boost and VM). You can't just provision Wimax from say Clearwire (because they're the only other Wimax provider in the US - and it's still just Sprint) on it without their provisioning program. It's all well and good to clone a MAC address - but just cloning a MAC address isn't going to resolve that provisioning that will need to take place, i.e. placement of RSA keys, etc. The Evo hack had to duplicate that transaction - but the framework was already there. You're talking about duplicating a framework for something that exists that we're not sure how (which is a good thing to learn how Samsung is doing it) and then trying to apply it to an entirely different provisioning schema... See what I am getting at?
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Any further development for WiMAX for either the Epic and Epic Touch would be beneficial to both communities. This project, if accomplished, would help the Epic's CM development as they do not have WiMAX working yet. That would, in return, help the Epic Touch's CM WiMAX development in the future when it comes time for that. We as a community have no info of how WiMAX works with Samsung phones. The Evo and all other HTC devices had their phones explored.. WiMAX partitions found.. extracted.. backed up.. edited.. etc etc. And after all of that knowledge look how long it still took to get 4G working with CM7 on the Evo. Yet the Samsung phones have none of this. A project like this might give another dev thats not involved with CM a chance and possibly be a huge break to us all. We've all been told that our WiMAX isn't like HTC's and we don't have to back it up.. or worry about it.. etc etc. But why? How's it work? No one's curious? Unacceptable. I'm not saying you have to care about this project or be involved... but all the nay sayers.. think outside the box or go away. This is my thread and no rules are being broken.
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Curiosity is great. Not saying it's not. By all means investigate! I hope people do. But don't get your panties in a bunch when someone questions your logic - and tell them to go away.
autoprime said:
Ok, so like you said.. its not the sole identifier and it's in no way illegal to modify the MAC address. BUT, just changing the MAC address IS going to help me since I'm only looking to get on a WiMAX network. Sprint provisioning isn't required at that point so throw all of that out the window.
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See the above and throw it all back in the window because you need the Wimax provisioning process from the OTHER provider (i.e. still Sprint in a round about way)....
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As far as the menus being for technicians only... it came with my phone. Officially sold by Samsung to me, the consumer. You do not need your MSL to run WiMAXLineTest.apk on the Epic 4G. Simply run the .apk and write a new MAC address. No elevated privileges are required. Any user that owns the stock phone can do this. This wasn't a special dev phone leaked.. or something acquired illegally... this is the RETAIL PHONE! Every phone on this forum has official bootloaders removed and replaced, roms tweaked and apps ripped from one phone and put on another. This is nothing different.
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This would technically be classified as something different since XDA does not endorse nor allow telling someone how to mimic another ESN, i.e. a stolen or bad ESN. So you're treading a thin line here
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...and yes, Kurt Cobain killed himself with a shotgun but that doesn't mean owning a shotgun will lead to suicide for everyone that owns or uses one. Know how to use a gun and it can be safe and possibly beneficial. I understand CDMA networks. I understand WiMAX networks. I understand 1x and EVDO. I understand authentication. I am only looking to use the hardware that I own the way I'd like to use it. WiMAX will be around for at least another 2-3 years at minimum.. any that's only by Sprint! There are other WiMAX networks this hardware can work on beyond those 2-3 years.
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Yep - good plan. We all want to use what we purchased. More power to you. But don't for a second think that your plea's to be left alone and not be questioned about your hypothesis or motives will in some way be granted so that you can say or do whatever you want. Challenging an idea, aka playing devils advocate, is NEEDED for anything to be improved, changed, discovered, etc.

I skipped to the end here. On the Epic you had to have 4g on when changing MAC address. I assume you tried that already. I just saw the Wifi icon in screenies...Sprint actually puts some sort of extra layer (proxy?) in there. I changed my Epic to my straight Clear MAC and averaged 1 to 1.5Mbps faster download but always went back to my Sprint MAC because most of Clear's plans have 1Mbps upload cap.
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looks like you can change it there
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I can see how this would benefit a lot of people. Being able to change the WiMAX settings on a phone branded for one carrier and running on another carrier would be a great option, for example someone buys a refurbished phone from say... an "authorized Boost Mobile dealer" but the phone doesn't have WiMAX, Being able to edit those settings to enable WiMAX in some way would be great. I'll be watching this thread for updates keep up the good work kids.

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I can see how this would benefit a lot of people. Being able to change the WiMAX settings on a phone branded for one carrier and running on another carrier would be a great option, for example someone buys a refurbished phone from say... an "authorized Boost Mobile dealer" but the phone doesn't have WiMAX, Being able to edit those settings to enable WiMAX in some way would be great. I'll be watching this thread for updates keep up the good work kids.
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That right there is 100% illegal.
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Really.. How would it be illegal?
Sprint wont allow you to get a contract without a hefty deposit and the customer service agent mentions Boost or Virgin. Check.
Boost mobile "retailer" has an Epic 4G for sale with no WiMAX, Ok, nice phone but I want 4g.
Clear (A Sprint owned company) Offers 4g access nationwide.
I buy my phone, Its activated from a retailer on a sprint owned network. Editing the WiMAX settings to change the realm and activating that on Clear is not illegal as you are NOT cloning someone elses information. You're legally enabling your information to be processed through an alternate carrier.
Now if someone was running around ripping peoples phones apart just to get free WiMAX then yes we would have a problem, but this isn't the case here, and before you spout off about apples and oranges this same example can be applied to rooting your damn phone. You're changing something to enable more functionality of a device you paid for.

Guys this works 100% I know for a fact it does since I've done it myself to another phone and I'm sure it's completely legal as long as the Mac address is your own. autoprime check your PMs please.

[Q] Bring Epic to Ting Mobile by swapping esn?

My wife and I use our phones more for the smart phone functions, and maybe use 300-500 minutes, 500 texts a month. The ting mobile plans would save us $1000 a year, the problem is that you have to buy phones straight from them.
According to the Ting support, some of their customers have gotten around this problem by purchasing one of their cheap phones, and then cloning the ESN to their better sprint / verizon phone. Ting encourages this, but I need to figure out how to do it.
Any ideas? Thanks!
I tried to post the link to the ting support staff statement, but apparently I haven't posted on XDA enough yet. So to find the forum post, just highlight this (including the quotation marks) and google it:
"Is it possible to activate ex-Verizon or ex-Sprint smartphone on Ting?"

This is possible I'm sorry I don't have a how to but I'm here to give you some encouragement. This has been done on numerous different wireless carriers so if you figure out how it would be as simple as 1,2,3...
I think flashing to alternative carriers doesn't differ so if you look at the how to flash boost mobile or cricket here on xda and ask them ill link them to ya
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473141
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This is something i would like to know too been trying to find a way to get my GF att phone to work with Verizon but everything ive found says it cant be done because Verizon is CDMA and att is GSM and the 2 technologies arent compatible

Pretty sure you guys are going to get flamed for this discussion or worse.
Isn't messing with esn illegal?
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K3VlN said:
This is something i would like to know too been trying to find a way to get my GF att phone to work with Verizon but everything ive found says it cant be done because Verizon is CDMA and att is GSM and the 2 technologies arent compatible
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Yeah your not going to get anything working there two completly different radio frequecies there bud
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mjben said:
Pretty sure you guys are going to get flamed for this discussion or worse.
Isn't messing with esn illegal?
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Yes but this is flashing to an alternative carrier with an esn they have bought and paid for what your referring to is a ghost esn not esn swapping
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yeah thats what i gathered just trying to find out if there was a way to get around that with out taking the phone apart...i told her to just sell it on swappa i already rooted it so she should get a lil chunk of change for it

mjben said:
Pretty sure you guys are going to get flamed for this discussion or worse.
Isn't messing with esn illegal?
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Really man... you haven't seen the threads on how to do this for boost, virgin, and cricket? Those threads have been here since before I was a member... you're just not allowed to go into significant detail about it... as long as nobody explains how to do the esn switch you all should be alright... (btw there are TONS of guides on how to do this.... its basically the same for every carrier with minor changes here and there...) not hard to do and takes less than 20 minutes once you get it down... also if you would rather metro pcs or have one in your area most of their stores have a rep there that will do this for you... just don't pay them until they get data working!!!!
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Yes but this is flashing to an alternative carrier with an esn they have bought and paid for what your referring to is a ghost esn not esn swapping
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Ah, OK. Thanks for the clarity. I've seen other folks threads get quite beaten up over that sort of thing.
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Should have no problem flashing the phone as long as both phones are cdma phones. Might be difficult getting mobile data and MMS working though. I am running an epic on virgin mobile and everything works except mms. I have gotten mms to send just can't receive it. As for the legality I made sure to zero out the esn on my old phone so both cant be active at same time. Might be a good idea to avoid the risk of being banned.
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Thanks everybody!

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Yes, a Sprint phone on Ting would be easy to do. In your case, the Epic 4G phone by Samsung is incredibly easy to change the ESN on. All Samsung phones are really... especially on Verizon as their SPC codes are 000000. The standard Samsung SPC code unlock password though should work on Sprint Samsung phones. Google around for it.
The problem with all of this though is that you'll have to purchase a Ting phone in the first place. Now maybe you could purchase the feature phone that they have available and use that ESN, but using hundreds of megabytes on an ESN that is supposed to be a feature phone might be suspect in Ting's system. I'm not sure they would care though, but you would stick out like a sore thumb. Buying one of their smart phones seems to defeat the purpose of doing this as you would be left with a unusable smartphone that is probably better than your Epic 4G in the first place. You could take your Epic 4G to Boost. I admit, Ting rocks especially for more than one phone on a plan, but Boost isn't bad.
Don't go to Virgin Mobile. It is the same network as Sprint and Boost, but getting the phone on VM is difficult. You need the A-logins and Passwords that are difficult to get if you don't know what you are doing. Also, VM seems to more actively police their network for this type of use and if you don't have everything exactly copied from the donor phone you'll be noticed. No one really is sure what all needs to be copied over and after about 3 months or so the phone is usually noticed. It is kinda a mystery. I noticed that a person above said he has a phone on VM from another carrier. Might want to inquire with him though he said that he had several phones so maybe the little use of the VM phone is enabling him to skirt under the radar.
For the person looking for AT&T on Verizon... as already mentioned... not possible. I would look into using Red Pocket for AT&T's MVNO. You could also go to Simple Mobile, but would not get 3G data.
Let me know of anyone else has any questions...

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Yes, a Sprint phone on Ting would be easy to do. In your case, the Epic 4G phone by Samsung is incredibly easy to change the ESN on. All Samsung phones are really... especially on Verizon as their SPC codes are 000000. The standard Samsung SPC code unlock password though should work on Sprint Samsung phones. Google around for it.
The problem with all of this though is that you'll have to purchase a Ting phone in the first place. Now maybe you could purchase the feature phone that they have available and use that ESN, but using hundreds of megabytes on an ESN that is supposed to be a feature phone might be suspect in Ting's system. I'm not sure they would care though, but you would stick out like a sore thumb. Buying one of their smart phones seems to defeat the purpose of doing this as you would be left with a unusable smartphone that is probably better than your Epic 4G in the first place. You could take your Epic 4G to Boost. I admit, Ting rocks especially for more than one phone on a plan, but Boost isn't bad.
Don't go to Virgin Mobile. It is the same network as Sprint and Boost, but getting the phone on VM is difficult. You need the A-logins and Passwords that are difficult to get if you don't know what you are doing. Also, VM seems to more actively police their network for this type of use and if you don't have everything exactly copied from the donor phone you'll be noticed. No one really is sure what all needs to be copied over and after about 3 months or so the phone is usually noticed. It is kinda a mystery. I noticed that a person above said he has a phone on VM from another carrier. Might want to inquire with him though he said that he had several phones so maybe the little use of the VM phone is enabling him to skirt under the radar.
For the person looking for AT&T on Verizon... as already mentioned... not possible. I would look into using Red Pocket for AT&T's MVNO. You could also go to Simple Mobile, but would not get 3G data.
Let me know of anyone else has any questions...
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Virgin Mobile isn't hard to do.. I wrote up the guide for us, the only ones having issues are the few who don't use the phone written on the guide, and many who do not bother reading the guide. I have heard boost is actually more tedious.
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Donor phones to flash evo 4g to BM

Hi guys, I'm about to cancel my Sprint account and root the evo to boost, the incognito/rant are no longer on sale except on eBay. Which of the newer cheapest phone from Boost I can use as a donor???? I am afraid to get a used one from eBay thinking it might not work. Thanks in advance.

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Hi guys, I'm about to cancel my Sprint account and root the evo to boost, the incognito/rant are no longer on sale except on eBay. Which of the newer cheapest phone from Boost I can use as a donor???? I am afraid to get a used one from eBay thinking it might not work. Thanks in advance.
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I've gotten mine, always used incognito, from craigslist. Doesn't matter what condition the phone is in as long as it powers up and can connect the usb port. I've done it with the Evo and the E3D. I want to try one of the Galaxy phones next but haven't gotten my hands on one. Good luck.

I've done two now with the incognito and their both working fine.
Technically you could use any 3g phone, it just may be harder to get all the info you need since most of the directions are for those 2...
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Thanks guys, so I won't matter if the incognito has been used as a donor before?? does it has to be an incognito from Boost or any other carries who might have sold it.:good:

It has to be from boost. And it can ONLY be used as a donor once at a time.
Meaning, say a buddy uses it to flash his evo. If he's still using it, you can't.
So if your buying one, make sure its a clean esn and activatible.
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Thanks to all, I think I'm ready now. I did search CL and found a couple near where I am, just need to make sure they're ok. Thanks again

SilverTigre2010 said:
Thanks guys, so I won't matter if the incognito has been used as a donor before?? does it has to be an incognito from Boost or any other carries who might have sold it.:good:
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Just change the phone number on the Incognito it will assign new HA/AAA information.

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Just change the phone number on the Incognito it will assign new HA/AAA information.
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But that doesn't matter. When you clone the info to a new phone, its always going to use the same unique numbers. The HA/AAA are only the passwords needed to access the information.
The esn/meid are unique and only 1 phone has those numbers. Its like a network mac address.
So no, you still can only use a phone once at a time. Otherwise, I could sell just the numbers off my phone all day long.
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I'm not talking about multiple people using the same information.
I'm talking about generating new HA/AAA information so at least he would know there's no way for some else to have it like the guy he bought it from.
By activating the phone you know if its in use or not.
He wouldn't be able to even activate the phone if someone is even using the MEID or ESN.

Can't you just call boost with your evo's ESN and they'll put it on their network? No need for a donor if so.

Some people claim they have but their official policy is against it, most have said they've been denied and I haven't even tried.
They can tell what ESN is coming from where Boost and Sprint ESNs are not considered the same in their systems.

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Can't you just call boost with your evo's ESN and they'll put it on their network? No need for a donor if so.
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To my understanding after reading a few blogs is that you can't do that, it will seem doable because is basically the same network(Sprint) but aparently is not possible therefore the need to flash.

Update
Just to update there are some other phones that can be use see this.
I was able to get a brand new incognito from a Sprint Store in VA, I spoke to one of the managers and they're getting rid off all the old boost mobile phones, I got mine for less than $30 they can even go lower If you buy in bulk, I thought about buying them(they had about 20) and reselling them on CL but didn't do it(not enough cash).
Anyway I completed the flash and now I am using my 4G Evo with boost, I am down to $25/month, I got the Pay as you go plan $.50/day unlimited web + $0.20/minute call. Works great for me since I don't use the phone to make calls, mostly text and web. Running ICS ROM of course with no 4G, I was paying about $93/month with Sprint.