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Which method is the best for rooting?

being that the stock kernel has been out for awhile and things seem to be moving fast, I'm thinking about rooting my ET again.
With that said, which one is people using the most to root there ET's with / the one with less issues...
Bubby323
[ACS][KERNEL] ClockworkMod Recovery v 5.0.2.3 // SD and Internal Storage Mounted
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1287776&page=9
chris41g:
[ACS][Kernel][Odin] eg30Plus Stock, CWM5 and Plus Tweaks (No root & No BB)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1289278
Zedomax
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265429
[GUIDE]Epic 4G Touch Root![9/18/2011][ROOT][ZEDOMAX][ACS]

I followed this method with no problems (after LOS and other problems with other methods) this pretty much gives you stock + root
http://wiki.rootzwiki.com/index.php/Samsung_Epic_4G_Touch
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I just went with this method:
[ACS][Odin]Stock EG30 Deodexed with Root 3.0/Busybox 1.18.4
Really straightforward, just flash it over Odin and done.
I like it because it's as close to stock as possible. As I understand it, it's just stock with the root-related files added, and doesn't touch the kernel at all. I'm really trying to avoid the LOS bug, since I haven't seen it a single time since launch day on stock, so I wanted to stay as close to stock as possible.

manekineko said:
I just went with this method:
[ACS][Odin]Stock EG30 Deodexed with Root 3.0/Busybox 1.18.4
Really straightforward, just flash it over Odin and done.
I like it because it's as close to stock as possible. As I understand it, it's just stock with the root-related files added, and doesn't touch the kernel at all. I'm really trying to avoid the LOS bug, since I haven't seen it a single time since launch day on stock, so I wanted to stay as close to stock as possible.
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How long have you been running this with no problems? I think that the only difference is that you now have a deodexed stock rom with the stock kernel where as I'm fully stock, rom and kernel. Your setup is better because you can theme and mod a deodexed rom. If you haven't had au problems then I think ill flash this also.
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kzoak82 said:
How long have you been running this with no problems? I think that the only difference is that you now have a deodexed stock rom with the stock kernel where as I'm fully stock, rom and kernel. Your setup is better because you can theme and mod a deodexed rom. If you haven't had au problems then I think ill flash this also.
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I literally just flashed it tonight. There are a few people that claim they've had LOS on it, but nothing like the amount I'm seeing in the other ROM/kernel threads. It's few enough that I'm inclined to believe this is either the same level as stock (if it's true that stock really can get LOS like some people say) or maybe it's just user error. Really from what the dev said, this is just stock but deodexed with the root related files added.

How not to brick my phone?

I should be getting my device within the next day and I am going to root, I'm hearing all this stuff about bricking and I would like to know what to do and what not to do to end up in this situation thanks!
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Darrien13 said:
I should be getting my device within the next day and I am going to root, I'm hearing all this stuff about bricking and I would like to know what to do and what not to do to end up in this situation thanks!
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Follow instructions carefully. If not sure what something is or how to do it, ask instead of blindly flashing. Oh, and don't ever use CWM Touch Recovery. Good Luck

Darrien13 said:
I should be getting my device within the next day and I am going to root, I'm hearing all this stuff about bricking and I would like to know what to do and what not to do to end up in this situation thanks!
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I HIGHLY recommend you follow QBKING77's videos on youtube he has videos on how to root(use the latest) he has review videos and how to install videos on every rom on this site. Stick with his video's follow them to a T and you should be good to go. I have had this phone for a good 3 months now and I LOVE it and have never had a problem while following his videos. You will love this phone it is AMAZING!
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stargaterules said:
Follow instructions carefully. If not sure what something is or how to do it, ask instead of blindly flashing. Oh, and don't ever use CWM Touch Recovery. Good Luck
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Yes I can definitely agree with that DO NOT use touch recovery, I soft bricked my phone a couple weeks back using it trying to install Phantom Hackers Blazer rom. AMAZING rom BTW!

1) Don't use ROM Manager to flash anything in its temp recovery while on a ICS kernel
2) Don't use Touch Recovery at all
3) If you want to be as safe as possible, never wipe data while on a ICS + CWM repacked kernel. Anytime you wipe data, make sure you're on a GB + CWM kernel. The EL26 stock CWM repack works nicely, but I trust the EL29 + Rogue CWM repack. Now, I've wiped data on a ICS + Rogue kernel repack twice now and it went just fine, but it does seem that this may be risky. You may never brick doing it, but some have, so it may be better to be safe than sorry.
If you don't plan to flash anything ICS related, you really don't have much to worry about besides possibly #2.

Dchibro said:
1) Don't use ROM Manager to flash anything in its temp recovery while on a ICS kernel
2) Don't use Touch Recovery at all
3) If you want to be as safe as possible, never wipe data while on a ICS + CWM repacked kernel. Anytime you wipe data, make sure you're on a GB + CWM kernel. The EL26 stock CWM repack works nicely, but I trust the EL29 + Rogue CWM repack. Now, I've wiped data on a ICS + Rogue kernel repack twice now and it went just fine, but it does seem that this may be risky. You may never brick doing it, but some have, so it may be better to be safe than sorry.
If you don't plan to flash anything ICS related, you really don't have much to worry about besides possibly #2.
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i was on calks ics rom and wiped everything then flashed his 2.9 rom. everything went just fine.

M1nze said:
i was on calks ics rom and wiped everything then flashed his 2.9 rom. everything went just fine.
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As I said ... I have done the same, as have many others. However, just because it worked once, or twice, or twenty times, there could always be that one time where you brick. Steady Hawkin said he used his kernel repack to wipe and flash CM9 4 or 5 times with no issues, then doing the exact same thing again his phone bricked. Here's the quote ...
Steady Hawkin said:
Here is the story fellas:
I was on CM9 Alpha4, and I was flashing our FB21 rev2 to pull some logs. I had flashed Alpha4 and our kernel about four or five times already without any kind of issue. For whatever reason the next time I went to reflash Alpha 4, I booted into recovery wiped cache and dalvik cache (as I had done four or five times already with the same recovery and rom build) and it just hung at installing update. It was at that time I knew my luck had run out. No Odin (including using the jig I have), no connection to ADB, no nothing, just the blue light of death.
These bricks are concerning for a variety of reasons. The biggest IMO, is that there does not seem to be a single constant. People are bricking on different recoveries, with different roms, with different scenarios each time. TBH at this point I have no idea what is causing it or where to even start. I will say it is possible that these stock kernels from Sammie could play a role in the chaos, but thats just a guess.
Bottom line is, playing with ICS before we have any sort of source is going to be a gamble. If you dont have insurance on your phone I would hold off. I'm going to continue to do my best to try and figure out what is going on, but I cant guarantee anything. With the help of the other dev's I hope we can get this situated so we can move forward. In the meantime Team Rogue will continue to play with fire in a quest to move development forward.
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Whether the extra time it takes to flash back to GB is worth it or not is up to each person.

I would recommend looking at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
I believe it is the intent of the OP on that thread to get it stickied if possible to avoid duplicate threads like this one.
If I may also share some advice given to me last week: Consider just rooting the stock ROM and getting familiar with it before jumping on to other ROMs. This gives you time to become more familiar with the device and stock capabilities as well as hopefully time to fully identify the brick issues and either work around them or resolve the cause.
I would also recommend keeping tabs on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504808
It never hurts to err on the side of caution in this case. Good luck and enjoy your E4GT when it comes in!

Calling all cars...

new to epic touch 4g...well actually its my friends....anyway i rooted it just fine...installed what i thought was the correct CWM...when i got into recovery it looked different than any other CWM ive ever used. Said team rogue or something. Thought i could try to flash in that recovery. Turns out i couldnt lol all flashes aborted. and then i was unable to boot up. Odin back to stock rooted. Which CWM is correct???
EDIT: also tried flashing CWM in rom manager. It boots me to the triangle and thats it

This works well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Option C for Gingerbread or D for ICS

v2.2v said:
new to epic touch 4g...well actually its my friends....anyway i rooted it just fine...installed what i thought was the correct CWM...when i got into recovery it looked different than any other CWM ive ever used. Said team rogue or something. Thought i could try to flash in that recovery. Turns out i couldnt lol all flashes aborted. and then i was unable to boot up. Odin back to stock rooted. Which CWM is correct???
EDIT: also tried flashing CWM in rom manager. It boots me to the triangle and thats it
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Yikes! OK, it all depends on what you are trying to flash. Rogue works great for Gingerbread builds. The Epic Touch has recovery built into the kernel, so you can't really just mix and match. You have to have the kernel with the recovery in it. Read up about which rom you are trying to install before doing anything. The AOSP stuff requires you use the el26 "Stock" CWM. Stock refers to it is an unmodified ClocckworkMod, unlike Rogue. There is also a thread about how to not brick your e4gt, I highly recommend you read that as well. Of course, I've learned that doing anything with anyones phone other than your own will often end in disaster as well lol "Dude, why doesn't blah blah blah work?" Usually a quick fix for those in the know, but if the person can't do it themselves, they just get frustrated and mad at the @$$hole that messed up their phone lol Good luck

Specialksg1 said:
Of course, I've learned that doing anything with anyones phone other than your own will often end in disaster as well lol "Dude, why doesn't blah blah blah work?" Usually a quick fix for those in the know, but if the person can't do it themselves, they just get frustrated and mad at the @$$hole that messed up their phone lol Good luck
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This goes DOUBLE for spouses, TRIPLE if they're not tech savvy. (Personal experience)

garwynn said:
This goes DOUBLE for spouses, TRIPLE if they're not tech savvy. (Personal experience)
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Absolutely! Rooted my wife's evo and put CM7 on it a while ago, learned that lesson very quickly! No matter how much you try to warn them that some things might be a bit weird or might not work, they always be shocked if anything isn't exactly the way they had it before. She has an iphone now ... and I refuse to learn how to jailbreak it

Specialksg1 said:
Yikes! OK, it all depends on what you are trying to flash. Rogue works great for Gingerbread builds. The Epic Touch has recovery built into the kernel, so you can't really just mix and match. You have to have the kernel with the recovery in it. Read up about which rom you are trying to install before doing anything. The AOSP stuff requires you use the el26 "Stock" CWM. Stock refers to it is an unmodified ClocckworkMod, unlike Rogue. There is also a thread about how to not brick your e4gt, I highly recommend you read that as well. Of course, I've learned that doing anything with anyones phone other than your own will often end in disaster as well lol "Dude, why doesn't blah blah blah work?" Usually a quick fix for those in the know, but if the person can't do it themselves, they just get frustrated and mad at the @$$hole that messed up their phone lol Good luck
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I GOT IT!! lol I had to revert back to el26...nevertheless i was able to boot into the ACTUAL cwm after flashing another file through this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728...just installed cyanogenmod on his thank you very much you guys. much appreciated...didnt want to pay my friend money for his epic lol considering the money i just dropped on my Gnexus

I'm new to the rooting game as well for the EG4T. The Rogue part sounds right, it most likely had more to do with the version you used. I made the same mistake once.
My best tip would be to use QBKing77's tutorial videos and follow them step-by-step....he has one for pretty much any situation and explains things very well. They are a lifesaver. Also, since it's your friend's phone, maybe stick to GB ROMs as they seem to require the fewest tweaks and have the least FCs. If you absolutely have to have ICS, my choice on ROM would be Venum's Anaconda ROM, which was just released yesterday. It is nothing short of brilliant. However, once you go to ICS, I believe you need to start from scratch (stock) if you want to go back to GB. I hear it's a big no-no to try and recover GB from an ICS ROM (most likely what you did). Best of luck.

ChiTown29 said:
I'm new to the rooting game as well for the EG4T. The Rogue part sounds right, it most likely had more to do with the version you used. I made the same mistake once.
My best tip would be to use QBKing77's tutorial videos and follow them step-by-step....he has one for pretty much any situation and explains things very well. They are a lifesaver. Also, since it's your friend's phone, maybe stick to GB ROMs as they seem to require the fewest tweaks and have the least FCs. If you absolutely have to have ICS, my choice on ROM would be Venum's Anaconda ROM, which was just released yesterday. It is nothing short of brilliant. However, once you go to ICS, I believe you need to start from scratch (stock) if you want to go back to GB. I hear it's a big no-no to try and recover GB from an ICS ROM (most likely what you did). Best of luck.
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lol i cant believe how much more effort goes into switching a rom on this phone is compared to a nexus...its just flash and go on the nexus. i successfully flashed CM9 alpha 2 but he requested an OC kernel. im on cm9 alpha 2 on EL26...can i just flash anaconda over this with wipe? and what kernel is suggested? thanks guys u have made my day

Specialksg1 said:
Absolutely! Rooted my wife's evo and put CM7 on it a while ago, learned that lesson very quickly! No matter how much you try to warn them that some things might be a bit weird or might not work, they always be shocked if anything isn't exactly the way they had it before. She has an iphone now ... and I refuse to learn how to jailbreak it
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I learned the same thing when the Optimus S had a firmware update - it was later pulled but the damage was done. So I did what I could - found a stable tweaked ROM and put it on there. I've always believed in wiping the phone before flashing - BIG MISTAKE. "Where's my messages? Where's my files?"
Funny thing about this is that they fixed the last FW update with another one that rolls out today. I know I'm going to have to flash this one but I'll be using TB to back up what I can before I flash it. Also have to figure out how to save her SMS, that's the #1 thing that will avoid a mad wife!

v2.2v said:
lol i cant believe how much more effort goes into switching a rom on this phone is compared to a nexus...its just flash and go on the nexus. i successfully flashed CM9 alpha 2 but he requested an OC kernel. im on cm9 alpha 2 on EL26...can i just flash anaconda over this with wipe? and what kernel is suggested? thanks guys u have made my day
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There aren't any kernels that overclock for ICS yet. I am not sure on this but the paid Tegrak Ultimate app allows overclocking of stock kernels we have but I haven't tried it on CM9 yet.
Once we get the ICS kernel source, things will be a lot easier when it comes to flashing. I understand where you are coming from with the Nexus though. I basically wipe everything on my NS4G then flash the Euroskank CM9 nightly and all of my apps install automatically. We don't have it that easy on the Epic Touch but once we have a kernel built from source we will be able to wipe and flash without fear of any residual issues
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JohnCorleone said:
There aren't any kernels that overclock for ICS yet. I am not sure on this but the paid Tegrak Ultimate app allows overclocking of stock kernels we have but I haven't tried it on CM9 yet.
Once we get the ICS kernel source, things will be a lot easier when it comes to flashing. I understand where you are coming from with the Nexus though. I basically wipe everything on my NS4G then flash the Euroskank CM9 nightly and all of my apps install automatically. We don't have it that easy on the Epic Touch but once we have a kernel built from source we will be able to wipe and flash without fear of any residual issues
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gotcha thanks man. Since i have u right here...when i try to reboot into recovery it always takes me to stock recovery...i definitely flashed CWM correctly about an hour ago because i successfully flashed CM9...now it seems to be gone. I went to rom manager and tried flashing CWM again...but no luck. I want to install Anaconda for him and i cant! lol

JohnCorleone said:
There aren't any kernels that overclock for ICS yet. I am not sure on this but the paid Tegrak Ultimate app allows overclocking of stock kernels we have but I haven't tried it on CM9 yet.
Once we get the ICS kernel source, things will be a lot easier when it comes to flashing. I understand where you are coming from with the Nexus though. I basically wipe everything on my NS4G then flash the Euroskank CM9 nightly and all of my apps install automatically. We don't have it that easy on the Epic Touch but once we have a kernel built from source we will be able to wipe and flash without fear of any residual issues
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That's one of the things I like about the cm9 builds lately. I did a fresh install of fd02 just to check it out and when I came back to cm9 it pulls in my setup I had before, right down to changing my wallpaper for me. No backups needed. I still have to go in and put in my username and passwords on some of them and I lose my Cut the Rope game data (Oh darn!!), but I love that my apps from the play store(calling the market the "play store" makes me feel dirty lol) automatically install.

v2.2v said:
gotcha thanks man. Since i have u right here...when i try to reboot into recovery it always takes me to stock recovery...i definitely flashed CWM correctly about an hour ago because i successfully flashed CM9...now it seems to be gone. I went to rom manager and tried flashing CWM again...but no luck. I want to install Anaconda for him and i cant! lol
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OK, first things first. I will suggest you read a lot more before doing anything based on what I bolded above.
ROM Manager is generally discouraged and can cause a brick. Read more here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24318861&postcount=2
Hopefully you got to this in time.
Good luck and once again, please do not be afraid to ask questions before you do something. It's easier than taking your friend's phone to Sprint because it bricked.
Final Edit: Sorry if I'm coming off a little harsh, but there are MANY posts out there - far longer than the ICS brick issues - that have said ROM Manager is a no-no.

v2.2v said:
gotcha thanks man. Since i have u right here...when i try to reboot into recovery it always takes me to stock recovery...i definitely flashed CWM correctly about an hour ago because i successfully flashed CM9...now it seems to be gone. I went to rom manager and tried flashing CWM again...but no luck. I want to install Anaconda for him and i cant! lol
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Like I said earlier, the recoveries are built into the kernel. Get the files you want to flash onto the sd card, then odin the el26 kernel. Before it reboots (ICS won't boot on a gb kernel, so you'll just boot loop anyway), go back into recovery and flash away.

Just whatever you do....dont flash with any Rogue ICS recovery, the source isnt avalable yet so its kinda like playing darts with a blindfold on and your friends are all drunk and not paying attention to whats going on around them.
Personally, I keep Rogue Stock EL29 (Odin version) on my sdcard and just use mobile odin to revert back to that when I need to flash (someone please let me know if this method is a bad one, so far it has worked fine though).
I haven't read up much on it, but I would avoid doing backups and restores of ICS roms via recovery until ICS is finalized (regardless of the recovery your using).
If you wanna play it safe, just stick with an EL29 rom until a final version of ICS is released, frankly I prefer stability over fancy new features and just like to test out the ICS leak for a little before odin'ing back to Rogue EL29 and restoring my gingerbread backup...it quite cool to watch the offical ICS mature and get fixed.

starnostar said:
Just whatever you do....dont flash with any Rogue ICS recovery, the source isnt avalable yet so its kinda like playing darts with a blindfold on and your friends are all drunk and not paying attention to whats going on around them.
Personally, I keep Rogue Stock EL29 (Odin version) on my sdcard and just use mobile odin to revert back to that when I need to flash (someone please let me know if this method is a bad one, so far it has worked fine though).
I haven't read up much on it, but I would avoid doing backups and restores of ICS roms via recovery until ICS is finalized (regardless of the recovery your using).
If you wanna play it safe, just stick with an EL29 rom until a final version of ICS is released, frankly I prefer stability over fancy new features and just like to test out the ICS leak for a little before odin'ing back to Rogue EL29 and restoring my gingerbread backup...it quite cool to watch the offical ICS mature and get fixed.
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I'd probably go with el26 just because it's "stock" CWM and the devs are big on that recomendation.

Specialksg1 said:
I'd probably go with el26 just because it's "stock" CWM and the devs are big on that recomendation.
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so just do the same odin restore back to stock el26 rooted...then it should autoboot into CWM and then flash anaconda...geesh lol

v2.2v said:
so just do the same odin restore back to stock el26 rooted...then it should autoboot into CWM and then flash anaconda...geesh lol
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Don't have to do the whole odin restore. Just the kernel. Won't autoboot. Have to hold vol + and power. Like JC said, this will all become much simpler once we have sauce

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Don't have to do the whole odin restore. Just the kernel. Won't autoboot. Have to hold vol + and power. Like JC said, this will all become much simpler once we have sauce
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got it lol thanks a million man...seriously

Thanks for picking me up there guys!
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after flashing AOKP, no CWM, only Android System Recovery

first time I flashed aokp it was all gravy until I tried to boot into recovery, I got the Android System Recovery. I got scared and I read around and ended up odin'ing back to stock and flashing another rom.
I really like aokp so I wanted to try it again. I made very sure I followed the directions, I did not flash from an ICS recovery. I try booting into recovery to see if it worked this time and sure enough, there is android system recovery again, what am I doing wrong?
I searched for this too and saw that someone said to reinstall the packages and reboot, and do it again or something like that and it would boot into CWM, but that was for a different phone so I wasnt gonna try that.
Can I just run the eg4tauto.zip and isntall el26 with cwm to get recovery back and be good, or do I need to odin?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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first time I flashed aokp it was all gravy until I tried to boot into recovery, I got the Android System Recovery. I got scared and I read around and ended up odin'ing back to stock and flashing another rom.
You need to read the OP in the thread.
I really like aokp so I wanted to try it again. I made very sure I followed the directions, I did not flash from an ICS recovery. I try booting into recovery to see if it worked this time and sure enough, there is android system recovery again, what am I doing wrong?
I searched for this too and saw that someone said to reinstall the packages and reboot, and do it again or something like that and it would boot into CWM, but that was for a different phone so I wasnt gonna try that.
Can I just run the eg4tauto.zip and isntall el26 with cwm to get recovery back and be good, or do I need to odin?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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There is no cwm on aokp codename etc for a reason ....to stop people from bring stupid and bricking ....don't use a ics kernel with cwm for anything .... Use el26 to flash any ROM u need and when you want to go to another use mobile Odin or regular Odin to flash el26 kernel again and boot into cwm .... El26 is a GB kernel and won't boot a ics ROM ....then you can flash anything GB or ics
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thanks for your response, but I think I am more confused, I was trying to flash a different modem. when I am not connected to 4g, my data is terrible, with 4g, I am all good. I was going to try a different modem. In the OP, for modems it says this:
Modems
FC18 Modem: DOWNLOAD
Flash through Stock CWM Recovery OR pull the modem.bin out of the .zip file and flash in the Phone option in Odin(mobile Odin doesnt flash modem)
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You probably should flash back to a touch wiz ROM.....you can Odin the el29 tar or one click from sfhub .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
you can Odin the modem and then update profile and prl in tw then you can flash the el26 cwm http://www.mediafire.com/?hkydca9ob98z89m
and go back to aokp or codename etc
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sorry if this is a dumb questions, but what if I get stuck in a boot loop and I have no recovery? just go into download mode and odin my way out?
one other thing, I started flashing ics roms with venum ice and flashed to mijjz ics and caulks and others and never had a problem, was I just lucky so far? I don't recall mijjz or venum's installation instructions saying I needed to odin back to stock before flashing. Sorry for the noob questions, but I've read a bunch and just trying to piece it all together. I read so I don't brick, but then I end up with more questions.

I'm also wondering about this I've spent a good deal of time trying to put the time line of the et4g together and I think I got most of it....just got my shiny white et4g two days ago my wife has had hers. for about 4 mo. shes much less fearless when it comes to flashing on this phone. (however shes settled in on build 27 of aokp, and I doubts shes gonna be flashing anytime too soon.) I'm coming over from my NS4G which always had clear cut rules to flashing! CWM all day. The only thing(s) I ever had to watch for was is it aosp, or not? An do I do a wipe or not? (I got in the habit of wiping just to be safe, and man I flash with the best of them! At least 2 times a week)
OK, OK sorry about the ramblings of my history my real questions are:
A) So Im sitting on alpha 2 of CM9 (nice piece of work I must Say) I made sure I was in the green, and had everything lined up to flash this one! went smooth of course. It wasn't until after my flash that I tried to make a nandroid....I get why theres no clockwork! but I'm totally clueless on how to back up with out it, or if you even can make one with stock recovery?
Can I keep CM9, and flash a kernel with rouge recovery to the make a nandroid? Or is there another way to go about this (I like to make nandroid often as a easy way to restore data after I play around with stuff and brake Wifi or what have you, and scrap unneeded back ups as I find out what I can and cant do with MY phone.)
I really really love Cryogen 9 (yeah its not as far along as I would like it to be ex- cm7 for the ns4g or kangs aokp builds) But there a team I'm familiar with. An I like there stuff, but I'm really nerves about where I go from here if/when i decide to change to something else.What are the guide lines for flashing from cm9 to say another ICS build? and is CM9 compatible with other kernels or only the one that is came packed with?
B) can someone straight up make a new clean thread with proper flashing tech. and no filler or out dated info then the have a mod stick it and close it>>>>simplify this for those of us that know what were doing....until things go funk for some reason, or another and that leaves ,us we are completely lost!
Well after wrighting my first novel (joke haha) I would like to thank everyone thats put up there time and money to make phones OURS and more powerful then what hit the shelfs an allowing me to get the most customized electronic device I have ever seen with the exception of my PC. Clapping

If you want to backup your system with the stock cm9a2 kernel, just mobile odin/odin el26 kernel/recovery, boot into cwm, flash stock cm9a2 kernel, now while still in cwm do a nand backup. That way it will be a full backup.
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I know I'm a little late, but there is CWM for the AOKP rom. The FC07 BootImg on the e4gtuato.zip file worked fine for me on the older version which was based off of FC15.

faceyourfaces said:
I know I'm a little late, but there is CWM for the AOKP rom. The FC07 BootImg on the e4gtuato.zip file worked fine for me on the older version which was based off of FC15.
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I would try that, but these folks have me scurred about using cwm within aokp. I have flashed between caulks ics/venum ice, anakonda/mijjz goodness,xplod mini and a couple other ICS roms all from cwm with absolutely no issues so far.
I am thoroughly confused right now. I am on aokp build 28 with a few significant issues and not sure what what direction to go next. I know how to get out of aokp safely now, but not sure which rom i want to go to, little issues with each that I dont know how to fix yet.

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I would try that, but these folks have me scurred about using cwm within aokp. I have flashed between caulks ics/venum ice, anakonda/mijjz goodness,xplod mini and a couple other ICS roms all from cwm with absolutely no issues so far.
I am thoroughly confused right now. I am on aokp build 28 with a few significant issues and not sure what what direction to go next. I know how to get out of aokp safely now, but not sure which rom i want to go to, little issues with each that I dont know how to fix yet.
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Read this thread it happens when using ics kernel with cwm .and then tell us u want to use cwm with a ics kernel.....it bricks phones please read it and understand
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
That's why people are using Odin to get el26 GB on their phones to flash with
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krook250 said:
I would try that, but these folks have me scurred about using cwm within aokp. I have flashed between caulks ics/venum ice, anakonda/mijjz goodness,xplod mini and a couple other ICS roms all from cwm with absolutely no issues so far.
I am thoroughly confused right now. I am on aokp build 28 with a few significant issues and not sure what what direction to go next. I know how to get out of aokp safely now, but not sure which rom i want to go to, little issues with each that I dont know how to fix yet.
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If you have been having luck thats fine but I can not see how you have not noticed int eh OP of the ICS roms and the OP of the recoveries it gives you instructions on what to do and what not to do. Also there are quite a few threads in here about the horror stories of the now infamous blue light of death. Once again if you have escaped this then maybe you should tell us your secret to success. Honestly the few extra steps it takes to ensure your phone stays your phone is well worth it.
Like Epix has posted please read up a little just incase something happens to you or anyone else who claims no problems so you know how to help yourself. Hopefully we wont have to see a I Think I just bricked my Phone thread from you.
Odin EL26 CWM and basically everything else stays the same after that... except you would need to either reflash the ICS rom you are using or have a copy of the kernel readily available

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Read this thread it happens when using ics kernel with cwm .and then tell us u want to use cwm with a ics kernel.....it bricks phones please read it and understand
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
That's why people are using Odin to get el26 GB on their phones to flash with
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I've read that, hence the reason for my posts. I am not going to load cwm and start flashing away. From aokp, I will odin back to GB before I flash any new ICS roms. I also won't be flashing between other ICS roms, even ones I have done before with no problems. I odin every time now, but it is putting a serious damper on my flashing addiction.
I could flash 3 roms in the time it takes me to odin back to GB, lol!

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I've read that, hence the reason for my posts. I am not going to load cwm and start flashing away. From aokp, I will odin back to GB before I flash any new ICS roms. I also won't be flashing between other ICS roms, even ones I have done before with no problems. I odin every time now, but it is putting a serious damper on my flashing addiction.
I could flash 3 roms in the time it takes me to odin back to GB, lol!
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I don't Odin to stock all the time I mobile Odin the el26 cwm kernel and then boot strait into recovery as the GB kernel won't boot the ics ROM and then I flash from there but I also u caulks format all too ....
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I don't Odin to stock all the time I mobile Odin the el26 cwm kernel and then boot strait into recovery as the GB kernel won't boot the ics ROM and then I flash from there but I also u caulks format all too ....
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Thus is what I used to do at first myself I would flash the CWM kernel then just nandroid back my old rom and keep it moving. It just basically seems that as long as you do everything in a GB kernel based recovery as long as it is not the Touch recovery you should be OK
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I am gonna look into mobile Odin so i don't have to be sitting at a PC to do work. So if I go back to gb and get my modem biz straightened out then flash an ics rom, my modem changes will stick?
It seems like this issue is isolated to sprint only, right? Much buddy on att is flashing ics over ics like crazy. And he said he hasn't seen anything like this over there.
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I've only used the ICS recovery on AOKP to change modems and flash GB roms because it probably wouldn't work too well with other ICS roms.
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I am gonna look into mobile Odin so i don't have to be sitting at a PC to do work. So if I go back to gb and get my modem biz straightened out then flash an ics rom, my modem changes will stick?
It seems like this issue is isolated to sprint only, right? Much buddy on att is flashing ics over ics like crazy. And he said he hasn't seen anything like this over there.
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UPDATE: It seems that using recovery on Touchwiz-based ICS roms (like Blend ICS) is safe but it is much more dangerous on roms built from stock (like CM9). Your buddy must be using roms based off of leaked builds and not stock AOSP.
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If you flashed back to Gingerbread to change your modems and installed an Ice Cream Sandwich rom over it the modem should stay.

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I've only used the ICS recovery on AOKP to change modems and flash GB roms because it probably wouldn't work too well with other ICS roms.
UPDATE: It seems that using recovery on Touchwiz-based ICS roms (like Blend ICS) is safe but it is much more dangerous on roms built from stock (like CM9). Your buddy must be using roms based off of leaked builds and not stock AOSP.
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If you flashed back to Gingerbread to change your modems and installed an Ice Cream Sandwich rom over it the modem should stay.
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It has nothing to do with that it's the ics kernel and aosp and tw is using the same kernel but with minor changed , because there is no source released there can't be a built from source aosp kernel ....there is no safe ics kernel with cwm when source is released they will fix it, but the note has the same problem
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Epix4G said:
It has nothing to do with that it's the ics kernel and aosp and tw is using the same kernel but with minor changed , because there is no source released there can't be a built from source aosp kernel ....there is no safe ics kernel with cwm when source is released they will fix it, but the note has the same problem
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The recovery that came with Blend ICS worked fine for me though. Trying to flash using recoveries on other ICS roms gave me soft bricks. Would you have any idea how Blend worked for me?

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The recovery that came with Blend ICS worked fine for me though. Trying to flash using recoveries on other ICS roms gave me soft bricks. Would you have any idea how Blend worked for me?
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It is the same recovery and soft bricks ate usually from not wiping right....but use that kernel with cwm and wipe data and your risking a b.l.o.d. It doesn't take much ....the thing is Samsung changed a couple things with how the data partition is handled and they also changed a couple other partitions and sfhub said he thinks it writes over two of the partitions at the same time when wiping and makes both unusable creating a brick
... writers thing is it damages the emmc somehow and makes it even impossible to jtag it .... Which should really never happen
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Epix4G said:
It is the same recovery and soft bricks ate usually from not wiping right....but use that kernel with cwm and wipe data and your risking a b.l.o.d. It doesn't take much ....the thing is Samsung changed a couple things with how the data partition is handled and they also changed a couple other partitions and sfhub said he thinks it writes over two of the partitions at the same time when wiping and makes both unusable creating a brick
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So the best thing I guess would be to just to avoid ICS recoveries all around.

Need direction

Just rooted phone using Odin el29 plus root now I would like to flash an ics ROM AOKP I need to know the latest method to get clock work mod on phone please help,,, please dying for a piece of ice cream
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Search for autoroot + cwm.. would link it but mobile atm..
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kennwoodkenn said:
Just rooted phone using Odin el29 plus root now I would like to flash an ics ROM AOKP I need to know the latest method to get clock work mod on phone please help,,, please dying for a piece of ice cream
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For starters you can use this gb kernel that will directly boot into cwm (won't boot system until something is flashed over it) : here
Then I suggest reading about some of the options available to kernel/recoveries that are safe to use to wipe/backup/restore once in ICS.

New and Need Your Help. Thank you.
Hello. I am brand new to this, but can follow directions really well. I Rooted my Galaxy S II EL29 w/o a problem and followed the directions here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229... to get a ROM version of ICS.
Now, my questions are (After searching through the forum for two days):
What is the BEST and SAFEST way to try and install other leaked ROMs?
I currently have 'Android system recovery <3e>'. Do you recommend something better or stick with what I have?
Also, Which ROM do you believe is the best one that comes close (w/o bugs) to the latest ICS/Jelly Bean?
P.S. ~ How can I add Beats Audio after flashing a ROM?
Thank you in advance for your prompt replies.

So you have stock rooted FF18 Rom and kernel now. You need a kernel with custom recovery to flash anything. The safest way is to go to sfhub's thread where you got ICS tar file and click on the Auto Root link in that thread. That will tell you how to add Clockwork Mod recovery to the setup you have now. It's a script you run on your pc with the phone plugged in. Pretty easy and he explains it pretty thoroughly. After you have CWM, good idea to boot into recovery and backup your phone before you go any further. Hold volume up and power at the same time and hold them until you are in recovery mode. Select backup and let it run.
Once you've done that and want to get on another ICS Rom, flash Calkulin's format all zip made especially for this phone. It will wipe everything except your sd card in the proper order and has never bricked a phone as far as I know. It will clear all your apps and data the same way flashing the FF18 tar file did so you'll have to reinstall all your apps. Get it here.
http://db.tt/sUM1uH72
When the format all its done, flash your new Rom. Wicked Sensations and Agat63's Rom are a couple of my favorites but there are several I haven't tested yet. If you want to try AOKP roms or Cyanogen Mod, better do more reading. They are different animals than the Touchwiz based roms so you have to know what you are doing with the recoveries on those.
We don't have jelly bean for this phone yet and I can't help you with beats audio except I think a couple of Mijjah's roms might have it built in. I don't think you can flash it on top of a Rom but I could be wrong. Good luck
Edit: Wicked Sensations was just updated and has a few elements from jelly bean in it. I plan on trying out over the weekend

I'll second Agats rom as a rock solid product... I also really like m'ics lately.
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What do you suggest... Thank you.
Hello and thank you for your response.
After waiting awhile for a response decided to read and read and read more. Basically doing some more research so I DO NOT BRICK my mobile phone.
This is what I did... I flashed back to EL29 Rooted, installed Clockwork Mod recovery, and installed Team VeNuM Blue Boa v0.2. Everything seems to work fine. I did find and installed 'Beats Audio Mod' an hour ago. Oh yeah, I did do a Backup right after installing CWM.
Now, is it SAFE to flash another ICS ROM, like Wicked Sensations or Agat63's ROM, after flashing Calkulin's Format All Zip? QBKING77 stated that he recommends going back to Ginger Bread and installing CWM before flashing another ICS. He does not recommend going from ICS to ICS. What do you think about that? Also, can you send me the links that has the instructions to install the ROMS you like? Thank you.

You are doing things right by reading up and waiting until you are confident you know what to do. That's why I am more than willing to help. This stuff has all been covered but there are still plenty of new people who are tired of waiting for ICS rooting this phone recently. The Odin method QBking describes IS the safest way and I did it that way quite a few times when the leaks became available. It involves more steps and you need your pc. Since you already know how to use Odin maybe you would feel safer doing it that way. However, many of us have used the format all zip to switch ICS roms and its been done probably thousands of times with no problems. Never heard of a brick yet using it. Also keep in mind most of the custom roms such as Boa already have a custom recovery built in so you won't have to keep using Auto Root to add CWM. Good job