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Ha! funny... most of my colleages in the office carry iphone, if not black berry as their work/personal phone. Guess what, most of their roles are dealing with Windows Platforms daily. As for myself, i am opposite, i am dealing with UNIX platform and the only guy who used HTP TP2 (Which I love it a lot).
They will asked, HTC TP2??? what kind of phone is that?? hahahahahahaha.
Even when i go to IKEA at one time, and happen to snap some pics of the furnitures that I want to buy and then show it to the sales rep, he said oh that a nice Iphone. WHAT!!!! LOL!!!
I guess lots of people out there still dont know what is HTC TP2....so sad.
I guess it is because, iphone does have the reputation and in the market longer than HTC :>
Same here. LOL
I´m sure is not because the iphoney or crackberry, it all depends where are you located.
In America continent those mentioned before has more influence and power on advertising and that´s why everybody wants and almost nobody knows HTC, but if you travel to Europe or Asia windows mobile/HTC is more well known than those mentioned before.
But here is the same, every friedn or co-worker has iphoney, crackberry or Nokia
ON my Universal times back in 2005 it was even more amazing to show off your HTC!!
hahahahahah! lmao
i had a guy (iphone owner) at work ask me if my tp2 was a knock off iphone. i told him yes i couldn't afford to be walled off behind apple walls. so he asks, "what did you pay for it" i told him i wanted to buy an unbranded one for about $700 in may for my birthday but decided to wait and wound up getting one for $300 (plus 2yr extintion to my contract with at&t). he replied with, "why i only spent $99 on my phone?" so i tell him its cuz your iphone SUCKS. i know that was mean but i then explained to him what htc offers with their hardware and how he is limited to what apple allows him to see, use, design, develop, explore, adapt, personalize and so on and so on. he agrees.
LOL, everywhere I go people think I'm holding an iPhone. And since everyone at my school seems to have one, and since I'm known as the computer expert at my school, everyone assumes I'm using an iPhone because it's the "most advanced phone ever".
i am living in China, the mass only know Nokia,but not HTC.
For most people who discovered smartphones when the iPhone came out, they think Apple invented it.
HTC has been around much longer than the iPhone, believe it or not. All those MDA, SDA phones, were manufactures by HTC since 2002! This is why this site is named XDA. Apple introduced the iPhone in 2007.
It's interesting how people call iPhone anything with a touch screen. Recently a relative of my wife came to the states and wated an iPhone for her children. She asked me about my iPhone (actually a TyTnII) and one day said that she had already gotten an iPhone, which turned out to be a Nokia N95.
There are many things that don't make sense in the smartphone world. Most people criticize MSFT for being a monopoly back in the day of the browsers war, but worship Apple who owns every single bit of the iPhone business. People criticize MSFT for being a close platform, but apple and Android won't let you install an app if you don't go through their market place. Apple blocks applications that compete not only with them, but with ATT, such as google voice.
iPhone and Adroid are worshipped for their innovations, but every single feature in the latest versions of both phones have been available to PocketPC users since probably 2000, at least I've been using windows smartphones since 2002 and all of them have had touch screen (albeit resistive), copy and paste, multitasking, MMS, SMS, email (multiple accounts, including exchange, IMAP and POP3), music (supporting a wide arrange of music format), pictures, videos, and you could install any app you want wherever you want. You can swap batteries, you can swap memory cards, and yes, there was a marketplace (actually several) before the Windows Market Place, it's still around and it's call Handango, which also allows you to try he applications before you buy them.
Even phone navigation was available way before the days of integerated GPS, there were many applications available, being TomTom the best known probably. It had turn-by-turn directions, with voice guidance and 3D maps. All you needed was an external wired, or bluetooth GPS receiver. That was before the iPhone was even announced.
It's common for many to complain about the inability to really close apps in windows, but few complain about the fact that the iPhone kills alls apps when you switch, rendering IM impossible, navigation, if you must take a phone call, facebook notifications, etc. I for one always disable the HTC task managet and let the OS handle memory allocation, which in my opinion, windows mobile does very well. Recently a reviewer pointed out (as a negative) that Windows Mobile was running 10 apps at the same time without he knowing it, and I say, that's good! A good proof of a true multitasking OS! I agree that apps should always have an exit button which actually closes the app if you don't want to use it anymore though, but this is an app programming issue, not an operating system issue.
But who cares, let people believe that Apple invented sliced bread and Android will save the world. Ultimately, it's MSFT own fault for neglecting it's own product, allow manufacturers to build, in some cases crappy, underpowered devices, neglect advertising, and forget to refresh the product to keep uo with the times. WM 6.5 was disappointment, and I'm cautiously optimist with 7(not really, it will disappoint). WM has the brain and heart of a smart and athletic 20 years old with the skin of an 80 year old overly exposed to the sun woman.
Ignorance is bliss sometimes. Most people think Mariah Carey composed "Without you". And no, it was not Harry Nilsson either.
Living is easy with eyes closed -JL
The *best* question I got when using my TP2: Is that the new iPhone with a keyboard??
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i am living in China, the mass only know Nokia,but not HTC.
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This is surprising as HTC is made in Taiwan, really close to China. I can understand that here in México so far away but so close to the factory and mass does not know!
Wow!
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The *best* question I got when using my TP2: Is that the new iPhone with a keyboard??
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LOL
That is a good one
nokiadashi said:
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man , not only nokia . .
in fact, people knows dopod so well ,but most of them didn't know dopod is a sub company of htc..
anyway , more and more people use htc phones now.
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The *best* question I got when using my TP2: Is that the new iPhone with a keyboard??
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Should Apple ever intro such a thing, people are going to assume every keyboarded smartphone in existence is an iPhone Pro clone.
The mass market can be so cute sometimes.
Back when I had my MDA...I had it so tweaked and geeked that when the iPhoney came out I named my device the iWiz (HTC Wizard which will wiz all over the iPhone)...everyone I knew jumped on the Apple bandwagon, they were my iPhone this, my iPhone that...I'd sit back and patiently watch, then whip out my iWiz and change their tv channels or remote their pc, or view movies, etc...and they would all have their jaws drop...and regret getting the iPhone. Now I have the Rhodium...and I just got it so it isn't even really tweaked and geeked yet, it still has the stock rom even...and it is still killing the iPhone. I just have a good laugh over it. I figure while the Lemmings play with their crappy iPhone, I'll have a good laugh when mine actually DOES something worthwhile...and look just as pretty as the iPhone, when doing that worthwhile thing!!
Oh, and for the Droid lovers...a friend of mine has the Moto Cliq...she charges her battery 3-4x a day...I use GPS, catch up on Twitter and Facebook, and make a ton of calls...and charge my phone every other day...and as for the open source bit...any awesome XDA chef can make my windows device "open source" too!!
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This is surprising as HTC is made in Taiwan, really close to China. I can understand that here in México so far away but so close to the factory and mass does not know!
Wow!
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AFAIK, that is because they are still being marketed under the Dopod banner (a subsidiary of HTC), while the rest of the world has moved on to HTC.
http://www.dopod.com.cn or http://www.dopod.com/
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Should Apple ever intro such a thing, people are going to assume every keyboarded smartphone in existence is an iPhone Pro clone.
The mass market can be so cute sometimes.
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Doubtful that would happen - heard it somewhere that Mr. Jobs doesn't like the idea of an iPhone with a physical keyboard.
Yeah, a variety of people thought I had gotten the iPhone when they saw me from afar. Then when they saw it up close they were "what's that" and I'd tell them and responded to their comment that they had thought it was the iPhone with all the reasons I don't want the iPhone. One thing I envy the iPhone slightly is the better processor capable of better video. But that is only slightly as the screen res is so much lower that it doesn't matter in the end cause even with a better video file it will look worse. Plus the new gen of Winmo phones had that CPU beat no questions asked.
And it's amazing how much apple and the iphone have trapped people's attention. My previous phone which I bought in Christmas 2005 was a motorola e680i (white version) and when people saw it they were "is that the new apple phone? I had heard they were coming out with one" because it was touch screen and white and sleek like an imac. The bad thing about that phone was the lack of apps and keyboard.
ANd yeah, no one knows what my phone is or recognizes the brand but that's because in Mexico HTC is almost non-existent. Though curiously the other day I went to one of the bigger more central malls in the city and saw this HUGE banner outside the movie theater from Telcel (the dominant carrier) advertising their new HTC phone, the Diamond (not Diamond 2, just Diamond). Mexico is behind on tech in general. I saw the TyTNII just before I bought my TP2, it was going in the store for about a hundred dollars more than I paid for my TP2 despite the age of the device and inferior specs.
When I went into an at&t corp store in late October to look at a TP2, or a dummy phone, to gauge the size, the at&t drone had no idea what I was talking about, but quickly pointed me to the iphone. I said, no thanks, if I wanted a toy, I'd go to Toys R Us.
Same here in Greece. Htc isn't that much advertised, I'd say that it's starting now though. You just spot a diamond2 here and there and an HD if you look thouroughly. I'm on the go a lot, public transport etc and i have only seen only another one TP2 owned by a teenage girl fyi. However you do spot a hell lot iphones.
Anyway the other day i was messing with my TP2 while being at the subway, and there was this guy that tapped me in the shoulder, fascinated prolly, and was like "Wow dude is this a new version of the iphone, or what?"
And I was like "Dude, google htc touch pro2, and figure it out yourself."
I mean c'mon people every phone with a touchscreen is NOT necessarily invented by Apple! LOL
Ha! It's really lots of fun reading everyone here also experiencing with their HTC TP2 get miss-identified with an iphone.
Thanks for sharing your experience on how people react to our HTC TP2.
I guess time will tell .........
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And I was like "Dude, google htc touch pro2, and figure it out yourself."
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So HTC fans are all out orally delivering let me google that for you* addresses in response to questions about their phones? It's a wonder people don't know what it is.
(I kid, I kid)
fortunz said:
So HTC fans are all out orally delivering let me google that for you* addresses in response to questions about their phones? It's a wonder people don't know what it is.
(I kid, I kid)
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Hahahahahaa that is so funny!!!!
I decided to share this commentary here from my WP7 fansite http://www.L337ware.com because I wanted to see how you all felt about the subject and honestly my site doesn't get alot of traffic being a homegrown effort.
"First off I have to admit I may be a victim of my own self imposed hype. Now that I got that out of the way I can’t help being a little bit dissapointed at the Windows Phone 7 news coming out of CES 2011. For example where is the promise of new blockbuster applications such as Pandora, Skype, Hulu, and many more key fixtures available of other platforms? How bout some cool new phones to compete with the flood of amazing Android powered hardware on the way? Maybe some new XBox live features like voice support? Instead we get the somewhat creepy rantings from the queen of the butterfly cult and a lackluster list of future game titles. I don’t really need it to justify my purchase but while Microsoft was all over Kinect sales numbers they seem to shy away from talking about the market performance of their now heavily discounted Windows Phones. Honestly most people are well aware of the features of the more immediate update but talking more about the plans for the later half of the year would have giving early adopters quite a bit of comfort. I’m a pretty avid fan of Microsoft and their products but even I can’t help feeling slightly underwhelmed. While I know Microsoft is in this for the long haul and have seen many times how quickly they can refocus a brand to please it’s users I have to say that CES 2011 is not really get me excited for Windows Phone 7."
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I don’t really need tit to justify my purchase...
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If I'm at a strip club, I need tit to justify my purchase
i like your site! if i can remember , i'll read it!
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If I'm at a strip club, I need tit to justify my purchase
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Thank you so much for catching the random tit. Now that we all know what thoughts I'm surpressing while i'm on the internet we can carry on with our evening.
good thing i didnt jump on the wp7 at first site. i rather had wait to see how the developers would or would not embrace it. also the current phones seem to be outdated after reading the new android phones show cased at ces. the dell venue pro did peak my interest for its portrait slider and large screen but i wanted a front facing camera also. guess ill have to keep waiting for the next best thing
yes no new news for wp7 at ces was dissapointing. they did seem to avoid talking about their phones
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good thing i didnt jump on the wp7 at first site. i rather had wait to see how the developers would or would not embrace it. also the current phones seem to be outdated after reading the new android phones show cased at ces. the dell venue pro did peak my interest for its portrait slider and large screen but i wanted a front facing camera also. guess ill have to keep waiting for the next best thing
yes no new news for wp7 at ces was dissapointing. they did seem to avoid talking about their phones
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Honestly passed the geek **** fight that occurs when we start talking about our toys the Windows Phone has been a great experience so while I won't try to change your mind I will say it's been one of the most comfortable platforms I've used for a mobile device in my lifetime. I have no regrets from picking it up over iOS or Android but like a greedy child I want more and I want it from Microsoft yesterday.
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ok, LMFAO...heh
That was good...anyway back on topic..
As quoted here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10393777#post10393777
Maybe we are waiting for the Mobile World Congress starting on February 14th for new models to hit ?
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Nothing really new.
When an MS rep was questioned, he did say something like (I'm paraphrasing), "We're saving some news for a later date. Only if there was an event coming up dedicated to mobile devices in Barcelona, Spain where we could talk about this..."
Making a not so thinly veiled reference to the Mobile World Congress starting on February 14th.
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Another site for my favs...I'll read it as long as it's updated
Nice site. If you need any casual contributers, give me a holler.
Reflexx1 said:
Nice site. If you need any casual contributers, give me a holler.
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I may definately take you up on that. It's a bit daunting doing all of this by myself and the few Android users I have now as casual contributors act like they will get struck with lightening if they post anything productive on the site.
L337Ware said:
... we get the somewhat creepy rantings from the queen of the butterfly cult and a lackluster list of future game titles.."
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sad but true they need to pick up the pace and satisfy us, their community and costumers. Both the iOS and Android, their competitors, are growing really fast, adding a lot more for our beloved WP7 to catch up with
heh
now that I've cooled down from the shock I can say that most of us put too much of expectation into yesterday announcement, and when it not satisfy our needs most of us (like me) felt like being cheated or thrown out
as for the new models, I just really don't think that it would make difference, since what we want is the change in software, not a 4.5" with Tigra and half-day battery to go along with it
i really like the l337ware site, definitely one for the bookmarks
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as for the new models, I just really don't think that it would make difference, since what we want is the change in software, not a 4.5" with Tigra and half-day battery to go along with it
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Says who ??? Out of all the specs of ALL the WP7 phones, nothing is like WOW. Really, everything on every model has been done already by another maker or platform. I don't think anyone wants a 4.5" display, unless it's a tablet, it does not fit in the pocket too well. MS needs a show stopper, a really HOT WP7 phones, they don't have one. There is nice phones don't get me wrong but, no WOW phones.
I can honestly say CES had some Android phones that were faster and nicer displays, still not WOW but, a very strong Hmmmm. If they were WP7 models, I might get a happy about them.
Still dreaming for a Verizon WP7 phone...and not the Trophy
Agreed. Wp7 still doesn't have a superphone that can compete with you-know-iWho.
i am not sure what ppl were hoping from the CES and microsoft, WP7 was just launched in Oct 2010 and we are still waiting for the first update... adding on new things to the OS before the update will be not a wise thing to do...
come on guys this is CES not Mobile world Forum, and i hope some of you were not hoping for more hardware to be launched 3 months after the initial launch of the OS and 6 devices..
i was only hoping for the update date or week only... any way MS was tight liped with the WP7 and i think they will be tight liped for the update as well...
Here's a bit more info extracted by mobilitydigest:
http://mobilitydigest.com/windows-phone-7-updates-from-ces-2011/
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Here's a bit more info extracted by mobilitydigest:
http://mobilitydigest.com/windows-phone-7-updates-from-ces-2011/
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The indecision on the Skydrive stuff is beginning to p*ss me off.
Well I have to say, that it's probably better off to wait for the MWC in February for phone news, I will wait for that to see whether I should wait for some decent spec'd wp7 devices, or just jump on the android ship.
WP7 is impressive OS but there is no killer WP7 device on the market. Dell Venur pro is one worth buying but I don't like its portrait keyboard. I'll wait for Nokia WP7 phone later this year.
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The indecision on the Skydrive stuff is beginning to p*ss me off.
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Well me too.....
What do your friends think of your device?
I told my friend what device I planned on getting for my upgrade, he had immediate disgust, being a Apple loyalist. He told me I was better off going to Android because its open, he doesn't have reason why open is good. When I finally got my HD7 in the mail he was there to see me unbox it. And it amazed him, which surprised me. Then I was playing with it around a few other friends and they loved it....Especially my girlfriend, she loved how easy it was yo navigate the OS compared to my last device, Cliq with Android.
when introducing my friends to phones, i try and be as neutral as possible. as a result, one of my friends is getting a htc 7 trophy this week.
in the end, those that know the name first think about the old windows mobile, and hence give that response. the best way to get them past that is to have yours at hand, unlock it, and let them play with it.
let the phone do the talking. then end of story.
Coming from WM 6.5
My experience has been similar. My friends and family are used to me with my FUZE and WM 6.5.5 custom ROM. I just hand them my Focus and let them try it, answer any questions, and they are off and running and don't want to give it back to me LOL. Android, Apple, WM users, doesn't matter. The UI grabs them, especially the ease of navigation. When they use the MSN Movies app and watch the trailers, they are blown away.
Same experience here. This girl i know saw me using my focus and asked if she could see it. I hand her the phone and she just fell in love with it. I show her all the different hubs and all she could say was "this is sick..when is verizon getting one" lol. Like JamesAllen said.....the UI really grabs them.
Experience
My most memorable experience was walking into a larger Radio Shack store in NJ and asking for a pouch for the Focus and pulling out the phone. The sales clerk was a girl about 20 years old who grabbed the phone from me, asked what it was (they only sell the LG WP7 phone and that was a model) and immediately began playing with it. She was very technical and moved through the tiles and apps with ease, logged into Marketplace etc. and forgot all about my pouch. It was funny to see a young, technical person latch onto the phone with amazement.
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Same experience here. This girl i know saw me using my focus and asked if she could see it. I hand her the phone and she just fell in love with it. I show her all the different hubs and all she could say was "this is sick..when is verizon getting one" lol. Like JamesAllen said.....the UI really grabs them.
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When you young people say something is "sick" does that mean it is unwell?
3 people have bought wp7 phones after seeing mine, everyone else who has seen it was impressed but at the wrong point in their contract to change phones, although they will now seriously consider wp7 when they renew.
I am such a fan of the WP7 OS that I make a point of telling everyone I know about it. Anyone who sees me use it is impressed. I don't know if I have facilitated any actual WP7 purchases but I have definately opened it up for possibility with people who probably would have remained Android or iPhone fanboys for the near future.
I even make a point of walking into T-Mobile stores to talk about WP7 and to give feedback to them. The reason is because I have asked reps what other people think about WP7 and they usually just say, "I haven't heard much about it." At least it'll plant he seed with the reps to talk up WP7. I feel like an infantry unit for MS haha.
I also get favorable responses when I show the phone. A few fell head over heels for it. The one comment I don't like and should scare Microsoft is the one where the person says, "This is a fantastic phone but...I got my iTunes and Ipod and want everything organized together." I know every platform has hooks to make it difficult for the user to leave. It can be from an electronic device to a bank. Just that Apple has big hooks.
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When you young people say something is "sick" does that mean it is unwell?
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At least in the US, "Sick" is oftentimes used as a replacement word for "Awesome" or "Amazing" or "Rad".
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Just that Apple has big hooks.
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Hooks which suck.
iTunes is the hell on earth. That's why i sync my really old iPod only every 2 or 3 months.
First my friends where like"uhh that's just another Iphone clon (because they are used to everything that has a touchscreen is apple stuff)" then i would say "why is it a clon of apples iphone, tell me one thing that makes it a clon" and they can't answer. This just tells is how "stupid" some people are sometimes.
But as times go my friends are falling in love whit the smooth interface with live tiles, and actually one of my friends are going to buy one because of that.
This comes from a former Iphone and Ipad owner, noe on Omnia 7 and love it <3
It seems that Nokia is putting microsofts money to good use as their marketing of the Lumia is amazing and EVERYWHERE. I live in the UK and everywhere I go I cant fail to see the Lumia presence! theres no way people have not heard of this phone by now. Its a huge marketing push and something, microsoft, or samsung or htc should be doing if they really want to sell windows phones... if this sort of marketing was givent to other wp7 devices, then WP7 would be doing so much better so well done to Nokia for showing the others how it should be done!
Absolutely agree, shame this level of marketing did not happen a year ago.
Have to agree
1 minute i see the Lumia advert, then the HTC radar advert and then followed by that stupid bloke dancing on kinect being filmed by a WP7
What that chap does with his baseball bat is amazing
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I don't think the platform was ready for a real marketing push a year ago. It is definitely nice to see. The next year will be an exciting one.
Being in the UK too I agree that Nokia's marketing is indeed amazing. Hopefully this will translate into sales, we'll see in about 10 days.
Maybe Microsoft was just waiting for someone to do their job for them
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I don't think the platform was ready for a real marketing push a year ago. It is definitely nice to see. The next year will be an exciting one.
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I was about to say this and at last the way MS is handaling WP7 is starting to make real sense. Bring out a slow launch build up an app market and use the first round as a test. If they pushed to hard before the OS was ready ie last year. But having a year in the bag and now some real hardware we are ready for a proper push. I love wp7 and its now time for the rest of the world to see what i have been banging on about
@DroidFreek They said that in the US marketing is the carriers' job. Don't know if that's true but that thinking would never take them too far in Europe.
So, I went to my local AT&T to see if screen protectors were in yet for the Samsung Focus S and also asked if they had the Titan to which the rep replied "No and No." Now, keep in mind that the AT&T wp7 lineup was in the cut of the store hidden within a mass of other Androids. So, being the WP7 hype man I tend to be, I had to have a chat. Below is the convo:
"I really wish you all promoted your WP7 phones more BC they are amazing."
"Yeah, well I HATE the wp7 devices and couldn't wait to get rid of the focus I had," she replied.
"How could u hate it? I had the focus and it was a really great phone. I mean, you can't tell me the features it has aren't pretty freakin cool," I replied while clicking on my wife's tile to show her the immediate options it had.
"Yeah, I know what they do. I just didn't and don't like it. I feel like wp7 is just trying too hard to be like Android. I mean, it doesn't even have close to any of the popular apps that the Android has," she said
"Actually, they have a great selection of many of the most popular apps."
"You're serious? Come on, I mean, they don't even have the most popular app in the world, Angry Birds," she said followed by a smug-filled laugh.
"Uhhh, sorry to be the one to break this to you, but the windows phone got Angry Birds back in June"
"Well, it wasn't there when I had it. Either way, the windows phone will aways be playing catch-up to the iPhone and Android. That's just my opinion."
"It's cool to think whatever you want, but dont you think you should be a little less bias to a particular device when you are supposed to be selling/promoting multiple brands?"
"I'm not bias, sir. I tell every customer about all our phones."
"But, you didnt even know Angry Birds was on wp7, which has been available for almost 1/2 a year. If I were looking to buy my 1st smartphone and told you I liked the Samsung Focus S, but that I would only buy it if it had Angry Birds, you would have diverted me elsewhere based off inaccurate information."
"That's untrue"
"OK...thanks anyways"
And, folks, that's why Microsoft has had so mucn trouble selling their OS. Too many talented (insert sarcasm) wireless reps giving bad info
It's a growing theme, yesterday was launch day for the supposed partner of WP7, yet 80% of the stores didn't have any, 95% of the staff hadn't heard of it (one poster said an AT&T rep told them it was a Verizon exclusive lol), and most still tried to sell people iPhones and androids.
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So, I went to my local AT&T to see if screen protectors were in yet for the Samsung Focus S and also asked if they had the Titan to which the rep replied "No and No." Now, keep in mind that the AT&T wp7 lineup was in the cut of the store hidden within a mass of other Androids. So, being the WP7 hype man I tend to be, I had to have a chat. Below is the convo:
"I really wish you all promoted your WP7 phones more BC they are amazing."
"Yeah, well I HATE the wp7 devices and couldn't wait to get rid of the focus I had," she replied.
"How could u hate it? I had the focus and it was a really great phone. I mean, you can't tell me the features it has aren't pretty freakin cool," I replied while clicking on my wife's tile to show her the immediate options it had.
"Yeah, I know what they do. I just didn't and don't like it. I feel like wp7 is just trying too hard to be like Android. I mean, it doesn't even have close to any of the popular apps that the Android has," she said
"Actually, they have a great selection of many of the most popular apps."
"You're serious? Come on, I mean, they don't even have the most popular app in the world, Angry Birds," she said followed by a smug-filled laugh.
"Uhhh, sorry to be the one to break this to you, but the windows phone got Angry Birds back in June"
"Well, it wasn't there when I had it. Either way, the windows phone will aways be playing catch-up to the iPhone and Android. That's just my opinion."
"It's cool to think whatever you want, but dont you think you should be a little less bias to a particular device when you are supposed to be selling/promoting multiple brands?"
"I'm not bias, sir. I tell every customer about all our phones."
"But, you didnt even know Angry Birds was on wp7, which has been available for almost 1/2 a year. If I were looking to buy my 1st smartphone and told you I liked the Samsung Focus S, but that I would only buy it if it had Angry Birds, you would have diverted me elsewhere based off inaccurate information."
"That's untrue"
"OK...thanks anyways"
And, folks, that's why Microsoft has had so mucn trouble selling their OS. Too many talented (insert sarcasm) wireless reps giving bad info
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Why don't you apply for a job at AT&T Wireless?
You can kill a few birds at the same time, and set an example here - then many of your fellow wp7 fans would follow...
Obviously, *****ing and moaning about it in the forums has little effect, the situation is as dire as it was exactly one year ago when wp7 hit the market.
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....a fandroid has wandered into the WP section again trolling....what a surprise. I guess I should wander over there and say it doesn't matter, Microsoft is pimping ****ty, lagging, hanging, crashing trash that is Android.
Dr.8820 said:
It's a growing theme, yesterday was launch day for the supposed partner of WP7, yet 80% of the stores didn't have any, 95% of the staff hadn't heard of it (one poster said an AT&T rep told them it was a Verizon exclusive lol), and most still tried to sell people iPhones and androids.
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Same thing happened with the focus s launch in chicago and I posted my thoughts about it
And the lack of fanfare for any other place not named new york
http://www.wpsauce.com/2011/11/editorial-windows-phone-art-thou.html
Right now, the advertising budget, the blitz, I see it in Europe and very strong. But in America, it's dryer than...well a dry hump. It's rather bad
Though when you think of it, android had the same thing against iPhone, and in the end popularity won it favor.
I'm sure over time wp7 will have the same thing happen
lqaddict said:
Why don't you apply for a job at AT&T Wireless?
You can kill a few birds at the same time, and set an example here - then many of your fellow wp7 fans would follow...
Obviously, *****ing and moaning about it in the forums has little effect, the situation is as dire as it was exactly one year ago when wp7 hit the market.
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Nice snipe pal, you really are a keyboard warrior.
One question though, are the droid forums really that boring that you have to come here to take pointless pot shots at others? i mean the guy was only trying to make a point about the marketing of a product.................. Mother would be proud.
This type of thing happens all the time, and will continue to until MS, or OEMs start marketing the phone properly. The more people see these commercials and ads the more they will ask in stores about the phones, forcing lazy reps like that one to actually do their homework. At this point, she barely ever has to answers questions about the phone so she has no need to do her job right.
XDA Developer members would make the best Sales reps
At this point, its more than a marketing problem.
lqaddict:
I didn't realize I was *****ing and moaning. But, yeah, great idea. In fact, how about this, I'll drop out of medical school to join AT&T. And, then I'll work hard so that I'm promoted into corporate and then CEO, at which point I'll make sure that whatever new device you personally buy is discontinued just so you can continue to be as angry at the world as you already are at this present moment in your unfortunate existence.
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webbstar842 said:
So, I went to my local AT&T to see if screen protectors were in yet for the Samsung Focus S and also asked if they had the Titan to which the rep replied "No and No." Now, keep in mind that the AT&T wp7 lineup was in the cut of the store hidden within a mass of other Androids. So, being the WP7 hype man I tend to be, I had to have a chat. Below is the convo:
"I really wish you all promoted your WP7 phones more BC they are amazing."
"Yeah, well I HATE the wp7 devices and couldn't wait to get rid of the focus I had," she replied.
"How could u hate it? I had the focus and it was a really great phone. I mean, you can't tell me the features it has aren't pretty freakin cool," I replied while clicking on my wife's tile to show her the immediate options it had.
"Yeah, I know what they do. I just didn't and don't like it. I feel like wp7 is just trying too hard to be like Android. I mean, it doesn't even have close to any of the popular apps that the Android has," she said
"Actually, they have a great selection of many of the most popular apps."
"You're serious? Come on, I mean, they don't even have the most popular app in the world, Angry Birds," she said followed by a smug-filled laugh.
"Uhhh, sorry to be the one to break this to you, but the windows phone got Angry Birds back in June"
"Well, it wasn't there when I had it. Either way, the windows phone will aways be playing catch-up to the iPhone and Android. That's just my opinion."
"It's cool to think whatever you want, but dont you think you should be a little less bias to a particular device when you are supposed to be selling/promoting multiple brands?"
"I'm not bias, sir. I tell every customer about all our phones."
"But, you didnt even know Angry Birds was on wp7, which has been available for almost 1/2 a year. If I were looking to buy my 1st smartphone and told you I liked the Samsung Focus S, but that I would only buy it if it had Angry Birds, you would have diverted me elsewhere based off inaccurate information."
"That's untrue"
"OK...thanks anyways"
And, folks, that's why Microsoft has had so mucn trouble selling their OS. Too many talented (insert sarcasm) wireless reps giving bad info
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Thanks...this is almost the exact same experience I had. Funny that both were girls, because I thought that they'd appreciate the UI even more than most guys (of the six WP7 users that I've converted, 4 of them have been women).
Anyway, mine was over the summer, and she had the Focus and said "I can't wait to get rid of this thing." A particularly weird comment to make to me, a customer who had just walked in and asked to buy a Focus for my wife, no questions asked, because I loved mine so much.
She went on and on about how much Facebook sucked on the Focus, but couldn't even tell me if she was talking about the Facebook integration or the app itself.
I was getting too irritated, and was close to asking for another salesperson (the one who sold me my Focus wasn't there, but he was stoked about WP7 and was excited to buy the Surround for himself), so I didn't pursue questioning her further about why she hated her WP7 so much.
On a side note, my 18 year old stepsister is one of those people I converted, and she hated her WP7 at first too, because it didn't do all the things her friends were doing on Android—custom ringtones, swype, video MMS, etc. etc. Fast forward almost a year, and she absolutely LOVES her Focus and totally stunts it in front of her friends.
vetvito said:
At this point, its more than a marketing problem.
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its a lot of things but many of the issues (carrier biases, lacking promotion, PRICING) is really hurting Windows Phone
Proper marketing can do wonders for any product.
StriderNo9 said:
Proper marketing can do wonders for any product.
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they should be airing that fan made wp7 commercial..
The thing was freaking brilliant
They've been marketing for a year straight, free xboxes, discounted phones, constant ads, tons of sponsorships. What more do you want?
vetvito said:
They've been marketing for a year straight, free xboxes, discounted phones, constant ads, tons of sponsorships. What more do you want?
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I haven't seen a single commercial or ad.
It is amazing and sad at the same time how many ignorant mobile phone sales reps are out there in these stores.
Its almost as if its a plot to gradually wipe the phone out of existence but I don't think there's any stopping this phone.
I have said before, if you go to most carriers website, WP7 products have the highest ratings. We have hit over 1,000,000 likes on facebook, and with Nokia and Samsung getting on the action more, it MUST succeed!
Dr.8820 said:
....a fandroid has wandered into the WP section again trolling....what a surprise. I guess I should wander over there and say it doesn't matter, Microsoft is pimping ****ty, lagging, hanging, crashing trash that is Android.
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You can call me whatever you like, I find it hypocritical to turn your blind eye on and call whoever disagrees with your views fan*
creamy said:
Nice snipe pal, you really are a keyboard warrior.
One question though, are the droid forums really that boring that you have to come here to take pointless pot shots at others? i mean the guy was only trying to make a point about the marketing of a product.................. Mother would be proud.
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As I said, there is more crying about the whole thing than actual actions - it's like MSFT turns back on all of their fans - announce $500 million budget on marketing at launch, and make it a no show.
webbstar842 said:
lqaddict:
I didn't realize I was *****ing and moaning. But, yeah, great idea. In fact, how about this, I'll drop out of medical school to join AT&T. And, then I'll work hard so that I'm promoted into corporate and then CEO, at which point I'll make sure that whatever new device you personally buy is discontinued just so you can continue to be as angry at the world as you already are at this present moment in your unfortunate existence.
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As I said it's the same story as the last year.
You can call me whatever, but I find it pretty hypocritical to not accept outsiders, and not consider their opinion. If you want your platform to succeed you should change the attitude towards outsiders.
A personal revenge, i.e. I'll make sure that whatever new device you personally buy is discontinued just so you can continue to be as angry at the world as you already are at this present moment in your unfortunate existence., will not get your brownie points as a CEO.
In a way I like owning a phone that not everyone and their dog has...
Makes people more impressed when they actually see it, and I don't feel like a sheepie lol