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Whats using data?

Hi Folks,
Just checking my data balance with my operator.. and its showing i am using on average 12 megs per day... seems a little high as i'm on wi-fi at home..
does synching with yahoo mail eat a lot of data? i sync news reader subs on the wifi ini the morning.. and only use browsing a little on the phone.. nothing major..
does google maps use a lot of data?
Just seem a little high.. my current data plan offer 250 megs a month.. so might be a little low!
Cheers,
Mick

Ive noticed this as well. I think it has something to do with google maps. According to my data usage program I have uploaded 15mb and downloaded 5mb today. What on earth is doing all the uploading and why?

i assume this is because of the my location service
if you have this enabled you agree that the service can withdraw these details at any time during the day.
try disabling the my location service from the settings menu and try again.
especially if you have gps disabled in which case it will find your location based on your GSM which will use your phone's connection?
again it's just a theory but this definitely applied to my hD2

Its a shame nobody has written an app to show data usage per application. I`ve searched and found nothing

when you say "a little bit of browsing". it won't take many pages to add up to 12mb these days. on graphics heavy, or just badly made websites this could easily be as few as 10 pages!
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Google maps only stores a limited amount of the map to it's cache and all the rest it pulls from your data bundle to update what you see on your screen. There are a few apps available with the maps downloadable to your SD card. These apps will remove the need for maps to cache if you use it.

I'm having a problem with something using data on my phone. I have the data counter widget and if I havent used wifi or 3g all day then turn one of them on it shows me as downloaded around 20kb. I disabled auto update on the weather and the set the download frequency in the mail app to manual. Can't think of anything else. Anyone got other suggestions?

Bet you've got Latitude enabled.

Whats latitude and how do you disable it?

The part of Maps that tells you where your buddies are and your buddies where you are.
If you don't know what it is, it's probably not enabled.
Open Maps, press menu and tap Latitude, menu again then privacy settings. You disable it there.

paulruk said:
Its a shame nobody has written an app to show data usage per application. I`ve searched and found nothing
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Try 'Spare Parts'. Whilst its doesn't exactly show this you can see Network usage under the battery section. It's by application but am not sure if its really network usage or just battery usage by network functions.

I would also be interested in such application. On my WinMo device I used SPB wireless monitor, which did the job very well.
I am using around 1MB of data per day (gmail-only emails-sync, weather sync 3 hours), but even if I disable everything, there are still some data transfers. This could be a problem when abroad...

slokii said:
This could be a problem when abroad...
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APNdroid...

This is freaking me out. I'm on Wi-fi practically all the time and have still used 80mb in three days!
My frequencies in terms of auto updates for Facebook etc are the same as on my previous hd2 but it didn't chew up anywhere like this amount.
Any ideas? Is it really Google location?
I can't believe that there hasn't been more talk about this. I have a corporate limit of 500mb per month.
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same here.. i switched tariffs yesterday to get a 1gb monthly limit..
you can turn off internet connection via mobile networks.. might be worth trying to save data.. also i'm using the opera web browser as it uses a lot less data.. also turn off background sync altogether.. wont stop your emails etc....
wonderstoat said:
This is freaking me out. I'm on Wi-fi practically all the time and have still used 80mb in three days!
My frequencies in terms of auto updates for Facebook etc are the same as on my previous hd2 but it didn't chew up anywhere like this amount.
Any ideas? Is it really Google location?
I can't believe that there hasn't been more talk about this. I have a corporate limit of 500mb per month.
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wonderstoat said:
This is freaking me out. I'm on Wi-fi practically all the time and have still used 80mb in three days!
My frequencies in terms of auto updates for Facebook etc are the same as on my previous hd2 but it didn't chew up anywhere like this amount.
Any ideas? Is it really Google location?
I can't believe that there hasn't been more talk about this. I have a corporate limit of 500mb per month.
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If the phone goes into standby, by default it turns off WiFi and switches to cellular data. It's in the setup Wireless menus, there's options on when to do this, including never which means all network connectivity will cease when the phone is in standby, so no push email etc.

no, never means that the wifi never turns off and it will continue to use wifi when in standby.
however, if you have it set to 15 minutes, then yes the wifi will turn off and go back to cellular data.

wonderstoat said:
This is freaking me out. I'm on Wi-fi practically all the time and have still used 80mb in three days!
My frequencies in terms of auto updates for Facebook etc are the same as on my previous hd2 but it didn't chew up anywhere like this amount.
Any ideas? Is it really Google location?
I can't believe that there hasn't been more talk about this. I have a corporate limit of 500mb per month.
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I'd install 3gwatchdog (which monitors your data usage, excluding wifi), and then start quitting apps, making whatever changes you want to try and see what's causing it.

Thanks guys, I already had Wi-fi sleep set to 'never'.
Ok today I have no Wi-fi and up to 1600 I have used over 30mb.
These are the apps I believe are drawing data down (28mb is data in).
BBC headlines widget, set to 2hrs
Guardian app, only downloads on Wi-fi
Facebook 2 hrs
Twitter 2 hrs
Google location - allow wireless location
Email for both corporate and hotmail accounts.
I can't think of anything else. This is all consistent with my hd2 but it was using far less. I can't believe there isn't an app that can slice it by app.
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slokii said:
I would also be interested in such application. On my WinMo device I used SPB wireless monitor, which did the job very well.
I am using around 1MB of data per day (gmail-only emails-sync, weather sync 3 hours), but even if I disable everything, there are still some data transfers. This could be a problem when abroad...
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By default, data when roaming is disabled so this should not be an issue unless you are like me where I am roaming from the second I walk out of the office door so need to have this enabled. I must remember to turn this off when I get on a plane

Holy Crap (data usage)!

Before i bought my Omnia, i knew i'll have to switch my subscription model, but i did not know data usage would be this extreme..
problem is, i can't connect to my home wifi until i buy another router (i can't set up pppoe on my current one).
i downloaded some applications, checked out maps and stuff, nothing to special. it generated 10euros on top of my monthly subscription in one day.
Will 500mb data be enough if i manage to fix this home wifi issue, if i download apps exclusively on laptop and refrain from using maps?

I have a 1GB plan and WiFi at home and all around the office, and even so I use about 600MB of data out of my plan.

You didn't mention which apps you downloaded, but some of them are very large (over 10 MB). If you install apps on your phone, you can see the approximate size at the bottom of the description page.
Ironically, if you try to install an app that is over about 20 MB on your phone, it will pause the download until you connect to a WiFi or USB/Zune network connection.

I typically use about 2 gbs a month on my phone, however I think most of that comes from YouTube videos and audio streaming. (Last.FM and Zune Pass)

Quick pro tip; when you download applications + updates, connect your phone to your computer using the USB. (thats if you have a valid internet connection)
As for your PPPOE issue, if you wish, I may be able to help over teamviewer, I am a qualified network specialist with a network+ certification.
But anyway, second month I had my HD7, I didn't use wi-fi for a whole month and only used 427MB.

is there any way to calculate data usage on a WP7 without relying on the network?

I haven't seen anything, at least nothing that is available for all phones. I know that at least some carriers offer apps that allow you to see your current data usage for the month, but that is about it.

Data usage is high on WP7 because of cloud syncing i think.. everytime we take a pic, it auto updtes online, same for vedios(?) and contacts.. i love it..

Purple11 said:
Data usage is high on WP7 because of cloud syncing i think.. everytime we take a pic, it auto updtes online, same for vedios(?) and contacts.. i love it..
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No video upload until Mango. The picture upload to Skydrive can be turned off in camera settings.
Most of my data usage outside my home is for things like emails,twitter, foursquare, google reader so that's not a lot of data usage. I always wait until I'm back home to download an app (best done on PC and I'm back home everyday afterall) and I usually check YouTube on a PC unless it's for a quick search. Think carefully about what you should do over wifi and what is alright for 3G and you shouldn't have too many issues.

Same data plan, same cost but different os = ripoff from carriers
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Peew971 said:
No video upload until Mango. The picture upload to Skydrive can be turned off in camera settings.
Most of my data usage outside my home is for things like emails,twitter, foursquare, google reader so that's not a lot of data usage. I always wait until I'm back home to download an app (best done on PC and I'm back home everyday afterall) and I usually check YouTube on a PC unless it's for a quick search. Think carefully about what you should do over wifi and what is alright for 3G and you shouldn't have too many issues.
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Can you post how can we turn Skydrive off from camera setting?

Purple11 said:
Can you post how can we turn Skydrive off from camera setting?
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Settings>swipe right to applications>pictures + camera>"Auto upload to SkyDrive"

Erm i'm with 02 and I can go to wap.02.co.uk to see my data usage, maybe your network operator has a similar page.

[Q] Monthly data usage?

Hi everyone,
I'm having to get a new contract and am considering the Vodafone Premium £41 Web 24month package, which has 750MB of data included per month.
I've previosuly been on an unlimited data package on T-Mobile, but I don't know if the 750MB is enough!
How much do you guys use on average? I onyl use it for emails/occasional internet, and most of the time I'm within range of wifi.
Are there any apps that can summarise this data expost? My contract expires soon, so I don't have time to wait a month and tests it!

I have a 1000 MB monthly data plan - and usually I use around 850 - 900 MB.
Of course this includes watching Youtube videos and downloading mp3s - which greatly add to consumption.

I don't know of any program, that can do it. However, if occasional is truly occasional, and you don't often download via phone and you don't watch youtube, than 750 MB should be more than enough.
I usually consume between 300-450 MB, with lots of browsing, and app downloads, no streaming
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I use around 450MB a month, but only stream data generally if connected via wifi.

Normally i use between 20 and 30gb per month, as i use the WiFi-Hotspot as my main connection to the internet. My contract includes 10gb per month, and if exceeded, they will only lower the speed (hasn't happened yet ). This month' count is already 11,2gb, but still full speed

My free limit is 150MB (my monthly fee is 1 AUD) and I rarely get charged. I only intentionally use mobile data for email, fb, maps (probably the worst), looking up public transport/movie sessions/restaurants and the occasional RSS feed reading and browsing. Everything else is on wifi at either home or Uni (my most common non-home location).

Data usage
If I only stick to browwsing and IM I normaly use 3-400Mb. On a more heavy usage (youtube, other streaming, downloading apps and stuff) about 6-700Mb. But if you turn your phone in a Wi-Fi hotspot ( which I do some times) it takes 100Mb in a couple of hours easily. Try 3G Watchdog and go with a smaller plan for the first months and you can increse if is not enough. It can vary a lot from person to person.

I have 1000mb packet and i'm usually using a ~600mb of it per month

Wow. £41 a month for 2 years....
Swyped...

I have a 1 GB plan but never use more than 250 megs, usually more in the 100 meg range. I have wifi at home and work, and don't do any streaming while on data. If you plan your data usage (updates & downloads while connected to wifi) you will be fine unless you plan on streaming music while you drive or something like that. My commute is close to an hour each way and I'd love to have unlimited data for streaming.

Try bandwidth monitor or data counter widget. The first shows each apps usage the second shows cell and WiFi usage
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fridgeman said:
Try bandwidth monitor or data counter widget. The first shows each apps usage the second shows cell and WiFi usage
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Thanks for that man, been looking for an app like bandwidth monitor for a while now!
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danmaskell said:
I have a 1 GB plan but never use more than 250 megs, usually more in the 100 meg range. I have wifi at home and work, and don't do any streaming while on data. If you plan your data usage (updates & downloads while connected to wifi) you will be fine unless you plan on streaming music while you drive or something like that. My commute is close to an hour each way and I'd love to have unlimited data for streaming.
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same
on o2
pay £28 a month i think it is for 300min/unl sms/1gb data
i use about 200mb/day from listening to google music beta travelling to/from work
started using 3g watchdog to stop myself from going over
was thinking of the tmobile/3 plans for truly unlimited data
i wish i could trade in my unlimited sms as i probably send 50 text per month!

Obscene Data Usage form Google Music

Google Music has managed to drive my data usage up to nearly 10GB since the 15th with me having only used it to stream a handful songs (less than 30mins) and nothing else! I swapped from the stock ROM to Android Revolution HD about a week ago, and the data usage screen shows the background data for Google Music at just under 2GB since the ROM switch (2GB in approx. 7 days )!
Maybe it has something to do with my 12,000+ song library, but I doubt it. Any clues as to why it is using so much background data when the app as rarely been used?
Side Note: Thank God for unlimited data plans else this would have been costly...
(Please disregard typo in title. Form should be from.)
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Reseting Google Music has stopped the extreme data usage, even with the app's settings re-enabled to what they were before reseting.
Steps taken:
- Clear data for Google Music
- Revert Google Music back to factory version
- Reinstall from the Market
- Reconfigure app settings

If you have "download over WiFi only" unchecked and have told Google Music to to "make available offline" or something has been caching, it could easily pull down gigs of music. Kinda unlikely but its possible if you've checked the right boxes.
Go check your offline only music collection in the app, see if it's cached a lot of it?

martonikaj said:
If you have "download over WiFi only" unchecked and have told Google Music to to "make available offline" or something has been caching, it could easily pull down gigs of music. Kinda unlikely but its possible if you've checked the right boxes.
Go check your offline only music collection in the app, see if it's cached a lot of it?
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Precisely. If you checked "make available offline", then it'll download your complete library.
I've been using Google Music for months now (well, since it came out, actually) and have used it for all of my music now (ie I'm streaming all of my music over Google Music rather than keeping it on my SD card) and have never come even close to 10GB of usage total (or more than about 2GB over a month for Gmusic) and that's with listening for about an hour or 2 each day.

'make available offline' eh?... i've had that checked off since i first started using google music on my old thunderbolt and have never had an issue like this. even now, it's still checked on my nexus and not using crazy gigga's like what he's experiencing. that's bizarre

I do have "make available offline" checked, but I have not told Google Music to make any music available offline besides the recently played cache it keeps. If I toggle Google Music to only display songs available offline, it only shows ten.
Also I used Google Music on my old HTC Incredible, and never had this issue. Maybe I'll try resetting Google Music on the device...

if you have it set to stream high quality, then it will eat up a lot of data - Google Music streams 320Kbps files at high quality.
that adds up.

oscillik said:
if you have it set to stream high quality, then it will eat up a lot of data - Google Music streams 320Kbps files at high quality.
that adds up.
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Even then 10GB is a lot of music. Heck, maybe with FLAC you'd get 10GB a month with reasonable listening, but that's without caching anything and still it's possible but unlikely.

If u have unlimited y r u worrying . Try checking " only download music for offline availability via wifi". That might stop all the background dl. Or check restrict background data when u click music under data usage
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I have had "only download over wifi" checked for the last 24hrs, and Google Music used a additional 0.25GB in that time period. This option should not matter has I never tell Google Music to download any songs for offline use.
The high quality streaming should not be the culprit either since I have opened the app to stream music in the last 24hrs.
The app seems to just be using 0.25GB a day without any user interaction.
As to why I am concerned even though I have an unlimited data plan, I do not like that something is going on with the phone that I cannot understand, and there is the fact the Verizon might start throttling my speeds due to the high usage.
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I hadn't really used google music much at all, literally one drive around town in the car for about 15 minutes and it had used 56 MB. So after reading this I streamed one song and told it to make it available for offline listening. It was 14.35 MB to do that. I would agree, that is a lot of data for a small amount of music. Looks like the thing to do is go through and make it available off line while on wifi.
Now I am curious where the phone stores it and how much memory each song takes up. With the android file transfer MTP program on my mac I cannot find the songs I have stored for off line music. It is not in the music folder or anywhere obvious. I will dig into the phone with Astro and figure this out when I get a chance.

bmolloy said:
I hadn't really used google music much at all, literally one drive around town in the car for about 15 minutes and it had used 56 MB. So after reading this I streamed one song and told it to make it available for offline listening. It was 14.35 MB to do that. I would agree, that is a lot of data for a small amount of music. Looks like the thing to do is go through and make it available off line while on wifi.
Now I am curious where the phone stores it and how much memory each song takes up. With the android file transfer MTP program on my mac I cannot find the songs I have stored for off line music. It is not in the music folder or anywhere obvious. I will dig into the phone with Astro and figure this out when I get a chance.
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I don't think they're stored as normal mp3 files. all renamed, iirc

bmolloy said:
I hadn't really used google music much at all, literally one drive around town in the car for about 15 minutes and it had used 56 MB. So after reading this I streamed one song and told it to make it available for offline listening. It was 14.35 MB to do that. I would agree, that is a lot of data for a small amount of music. Looks like the thing to do is go through and make it available off line while on wifi.
Now I am curious where the phone stores it and how much memory each song takes up. With the android file transfer MTP program on my mac I cannot find the songs I have stored for off line music. It is not in the music folder or anywhere obvious. I will dig into the phone with Astro and figure this out when I get a chance.
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Look in /sdcard/Android/data/com.google.android.music/cache/music -- that's where music I've asked to be available offline is stored as numbered mp3 files, and it's presumably also the temporary cache for recently-played music.

Well reseting Google Music seemed to do the trick. The background data hasn't changed for two days straight now. Must have just been a bug that had the app constantly communicating to the servers.

SuzakuTheKnight said:
Well reseting Google Music seemed to do the trick. The background data hasn't changed for two days straight now. Must have just been a bug that had the app constantly communicating to the servers.
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Figured as much. It may have even been hanging on caching one song and trying over and over. Google Music likes to do stuff like that

this is the prime example of when the cloud services are not really delivering as advertised
reason why the 16GB version is just too small for a media / gaming phone

Hi. Im having same problem with massive data usage. Im kind of new to this- so can someone guide me through resetting Google Music? I cant seem to delete it from my phone entirely. I know you mentioned re installing from the market- but whenever I go there it just gives me the upgrade option- which I did- but still doesnt seem to change anything. Sorry! And thanks to everyone in advance for any help!

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Hi. Im having same problem with massive data usage. Im kind of new to this- so can someone guide me through resetting Google Music? I cant seem to delete it from my phone entirely. I know you mentioned re installing from the market- but whenever I go there it just gives me the upgrade option- which I did- but still doesnt seem to change anything. Sorry! And thanks to everyone in advance for any help!
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Settings > Apps > All > Music > Clear Data & Uninstall Updates
That will reset the app to factory settings and allow you to pull the newest version from the market again. While this stops the problem, it is not a true solution to the issue as we have yet to identify what is actually causing the usage.
Before wiping, could you post your settings for the app? And any information such as library size and the number of songs you have told Music to store locally would be helpful in identifying the cause.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

Thank you! I appreciate the help! What do you need for settings for the app? sorry! Im new to smart phones- so- I need to be walked through alot of this still! But- let me know any info you need and Ill be glad to get it for you. Thanks
That will reset the app to factory settings and allow you to pull the newest version from the market again. While this stops the problem, it is not a true solution to the issue as we have yet to identify what is actually causing the usage.
Before wiping, could you post your settings for the app? And any information such as library size and the number of songs you have told Music to store locally would be helpful in identifying the cause.
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I currently have 7172 songs on Google Music. I have not stored any songs locally so far. Today started my new billing cycle- and I did nothing with my phone except play 1 song- streamed from Google Music. My data went from 0.000 GB to 0.076 GB after only playing 1 song- that lasted probably about 4 and a half minutes. Pretty crazy. Last month- I used up 2 GB of data in 10 days- and maybe streamed about 30 minutes of music during that time. A Verizon rep told me it takes about 30 hours of streaming music to use up 1 GB of data. I dont know if thats true or not. But judging by what others using it are telling me- I have something WAY wrong. So- Im going to try the info from above to reinstall and see what happens. Thank you for all of your help- and let me know if I can be of any help with additional info.
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Ive also wondered if it may have something to do with my settings under music. I have a Razr- and everything is unchecked except "Download Via Wi-Fi- only" and "Cache music-temporarily store streamed music." Those were both already checked with the installation. Should I uncheck the "Cache music" box? Is it pulling down alot more data maybe to temporarily store streamed music? Just wondering about this too! Thanks again!

I were uploading about 2GB of music from my computer to Play Music, and when that was done my phone gave me a warning that the app Play Music had downloaded 2GB of data over 3G, now I can't use my 3G for three weeks... When I take a look at Play Music's data folder there's only about 100MB of songs, as there should be.
I had set the app to only download via WiFi, but stream via 3G. Why could this have happened? Since I only have 2GB of memory on the phone, and the used data hasn't increased, what happened really?
Thanks

looking for a good media players that downloads & caches while connected wireless

Hey everyone - I'm tied to the crappy 2GB data limit with AT&T. While at the gym I like to be distracted and watch movies, and listen to music while walking/running around. However, especially with video, I am always capping out my data limit way early.
I'm looking for good apps that can download video and/or audio and cache while connected wireless, so I can go my merry way and not use cell data. I ran across Slacker Radio for audio - does anyone have opinions about that one, or recommendations on others?
I'm not too hopeful on finding a video player that does this, but I'm ever hopeful. Right now I've just been bittorrent-ing them to my home computer, transferring them to my S3, and that gets around using cell data.
With the AT&T 2GB limit, I can stream only about 2-3 movies before that data is gone - ouch!
Thanks for any thoughts/opinions/whatnot!

Uh, wow, my answer may have just been given! Just ran across this. Guess I may be moving back to T-Mobile, after about an 8 year hiatus.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57497706-94/t-mobile-cuts-the-strings-on-new-data-plan-goes-fully-unlimited/