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For the past few days i have been getting a "H" by the bars instead of "3G". Any ideas, I am hoping its not for "Home" and i am loosing 3G
T-Mobile TP2 With Tmo WM 6.5
what carrier and what ROM?
Tmobile, With the new TMO 6.5
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Read the GOOD news.
http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=16066&news=T-Mobile+3G+HSPA+7.2Mbps+LTE
Yea i know of the upgrade. Dident think it would change the bars.
It's purely cosmetic anyways, I wouldn't worry too much about it. In fact, the setting can be changed in one or more of the tweak utilities. The Tilt 2 has the opposite issue. The stock ROM only shows 3G instead of H.
I'm on AT&T and I get the H all the time. I don't really notice any speed difference though.
donniesd said:
Tmobile, With the new TMO 6.5
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boy that sure would suck if we had to go back to the stock rom to get the"H"
innovator8 said:
boy that sure would suck if we had to go back to the stock rom to get the"H"
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well I jusr installed the new radio and I see no difference. I still show "h" sometimes and 3g other times. when I tether and use speedtest.net I still can't get over 1Mbps.
innovator8 said:
well I jusr installed the new radio and I see no difference. I still show "h" sometimes and 3g other times. when I tether and use speedtest.net I still can't get over 1Mbps.
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Doesnt the H has nothing to do with the radio rom?? it's just in what area you are where the signal is the strongest.. 3G, Hdspa, or Gprs.. In the stupid little pesantville i live i often get only 'G' for gprs,, i only get 3g in the big cities..
you just have 'H' because theres no strong 3G signal in your area
xdadJeroen said:
Doesnt the H has nothing to do with the radio rom?? it's just in what area you are where the signal is the strongest.. 3G, Hdspa, or Gprs.. In the stupid little pesantville i live i often get only 'G' for gprs,, i only get 3g in the big cities..
you just have 'H' because theres no strong 3G signal in your area
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Being in your shoes I would be happy to see H instead of 3G as it is 3.5G rather than 3G ;-)
H stands for the latest standard HSPA (where HSDPA --> High Speed Download & HSUPA --> HS Upload) while 3G is a generic High Speed network of 3rd generation.
With 3.5G one is getting up to 7.2Mbit per second Download and up to 2.4Mbit per second Upload while with 3G it is well below 1Mbit per second in both cases.
Of course, it is UP TO and depends on particular implementation...
Cheers.
ksmm said:
Being in your shoes I would be happy to see H instead of 3G as it is 3.5G rather than 3G ;-)
H stands for the latest standard HSPA (where HSDPA --> High Speed Download & HSUPA --> HS Upload) while 3G is a generic High Speed network of 3rd generation.
With 3.5G one is getting up to 7.2Mbit per second Download and up to 2.4Mbit per second Upload while with 3G it is well below 1Mbit per second in both cases.
Of course, it is UP TO and depends on particular implementation...
Cheers.
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there was an article last week about tmobile upgrading thier network to hspa, theoreticle 7.2Mbps. with the rom that came with my tmo tp2, i never showed the "h", when i went to the energyb rom series, i was often showing an "h" but there was no differance in my speed. it is clear to me that the tmo hspa 7.2 upgrade has not hit here in seattle yet. i just upgraded my radio as i saw that someone in a previous post has the official tmo 6.5 upgrade and he was gettting 4mbps.
i sure do hope that tmo gets this working in seattle soon...
Sorry, this doesn't mean anything usually. If you are running non-stock (aka flashed) then most likely it just is the ROM that changes the 3G to H. I am on ATT and that just is what took place of the 3G icon. It doesn't mean anything else. Now, on stock ROM's it could.
Hello all!
Noob here, first post, so first and foremost please pardon any ignorance. I did search here as well as google without finding any significant results. I appreciate anyone who takes time to answer.
I recently bought an unlocked Galaxy S2x (989D) for use here in the USA on T-Mobile. I went with the 989D and not the 989 because I'm using a grandfathered T-Zones plan.
I rooted/flashed Juggernaut 5.0 through cwm, and the phone is working fine EXCEPT my download/upload speeds are lousy. Consistently 1.5Mbps down / 500Kbps Up MAX with 800-1200 ms ping via speedtest app from various parts of Maryland (Baltimore/DC corridor) and using different servers. My N1 has always tested faster than that in the same area, which is why I'm particularly concerned.
I tried flashing Telus KJ3, T-Mo KID and T-Mo KL1 modems found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426001
But saw no improvement. I've also tried using the stock epc.t-mobile and the old internet2.voicestream APNs, with equally crappy results on both.
Is it just a matter of T-Mo having terrible speed over HSPA in this area, or is it possible that there's something screwy going on with the device/rom/kernel/radio? FWIW, calls and texts are fine, and wifi calling works as well. I've attached a few screenshots in case any of them might be helpful.
TIA!
hmm... you should read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514954
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highest speed i ever got was close to 10 Mbps in Canada 3G/3.5G networks
seems more like the area you live in, have poor Tmo coverage for data
That's disappointing, to say the least, especially since according to the coverage map, I'm smack in the middle of a giant blob of "4G Excellent" coverage. I'm still confused as to why my Nexus One would have better speedtest results. Perhaps HTC/Google FTW.
seriously???
Is this legit? Full 4G signal? I can't imagine how it's THIS slow. Does jugg 5.0 have any build.prop tweaks that could be farking with my data? Just threw my sim card into my N1 to compare and it's way faster.
@JoshD422, Did you ever figure this out?
[Q] Whats the difference between each of the radios?
JoshD422 said:
Hello all!
Noob here, first post, so first and foremost please pardon any ignorance. I did search here as well as google without finding any significant results. I appreciate anyone who takes time to answer.
I recently bought an unlocked Galaxy S2x (989D) for use here in the USA on T-Mobile. I went with the 989D and not the 989 because I'm using a grandfathered T-Zones plan.
I rooted/flashed Juggernaut 5.0 through cwm, and the phone is working fine EXCEPT my download/upload speeds are lousy. Consistently 1.5Mbps down / 500Kbps Up MAX with 800-1200 ms ping via speedtest app from various parts of Maryland (Baltimore/DC corridor) and using different servers. My N1 has always tested faster than that in the same area, which is why I'm particularly concerned.
I tried flashing Telus KJ3, T-Mo KID and T-Mo KL1 modems found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426001
But saw no improvement. I've also tried using the stock epc.t-mobile and the old internet2.voicestream APNs, with equally crappy results on both.
Is it just a matter of T-Mo having terrible speed over HSPA in this area, or is it possible that there's something screwy going on with the device/rom/kernel/radio? FWIW, calls and texts are fine, and wifi calling works as well. I've attached a few screenshots in case any of them might be helpful.
TIA!
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I am also wondering about this same fact with a real Telus phone in Canada. I'm also wondering about the difference between the 3 radios that were provided with the Darkside.UCLE2 Beta 5 ROM. (Don't get me wrong, appreciate all the hard work from these guys, amazing where the T989 dev has come already!)
I tried all 3 radios, and get different speeds with each one. Blazes 4G radio I can't seem to tether, and then the T-mo radios I'm having issues with Bluetooth and even Data.
Could someone if you have a minute explain what the difference is between the radios and maybe suggest what radio would be best for us Telus users in Canada?
Cheers, TIA!
Drew
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JoshD422 said:
Is this legit? Full 4G signal? I can't imagine how it's THIS slow. Does jugg 5.0 have any build.prop tweaks that could be farking with my data? Just threw my sim card into my N1 to compare and it's way faster.
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JoshD422,
I will be the first to tell you living in Toronto, that its completely unpredictable in Canada.
I've had areas if there is high use downtown I will get even worse results than that (seen a ping of over 1000ms ).
At the same time I can redo a speedtest about 200 metres away, and get results up in the 10 Mbps and pings of 45 ms. So I don't believe that part has to do with the radios but more the quality of service, and I'm in whats supposed to have the best service city in Canada.
Your problem definitely seems to be due to the T-Zones plan. I don't have that plan and I'm using an unlocked stock Telus T989D in Maryland and I get 2-4 Mbps down and 0.7-1.0 Mbps up
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Your problem definitely seems to be due to the T-Zones plan. I don't have that plan and I'm using an unlocked stock Telus T989D in Maryland and I get 2-4 Mbps down and 0.7-1.0 Mbps up
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Do you get the "4G" icon?
I am on a stock unlocked T989d in the Atlanta area and get similar speed to you. However, I only see the "3G" icon in my phone.
joe74 said:
Do you get the "4G" icon?
I am on a stock unlocked T989d in the Atlanta area and get similar speed to you. However, I only see the "3G" icon in my phone.
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Yes, only "3g" icon in MD/DC area. I guess maybe perhaps this is not as fast as using the T-Mobile radio software that comes stock in the T989, but it's plenty fast for me. I don't think the "4g" capability is much faster, anyway.
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Yes, only "3g" icon in MD/DC area. I guess maybe perhaps this is not as fast as using the T-Mobile radio software that comes stock in the T989, but it's plenty fast for me. I don't think the "4g" capability is much faster, anyway.
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I think the "4g" icon is purely cosmetic. I have an unlocked Telus T989d on Tmobile and my co-worker has the Tmobile T989 on Tmobile. We both did a Speedtest side to side and we both got ~12Mbps down, ~1.3Mbps up. My phone was showing the 3g icon, while his was showing the 4g icon. Both our networks showed up as HSPA. Both of us in our respective stock, un-rooted ROMs.
While T-Mo roms do tend to be a bit over zelus with the 4G icon, it is much faster than a 3G connection. Where I live in Orlando is a 4G area and I get over 20mbs download speeds and over 2mbps upload speeds..
Side note though.. it is funny that people still use "" or call it 3.5G when the T-Mobile network has been accepted as 4G for almost a year now .. I tried to find the artical but its being illusive today..
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While T-Mo roms do tend to be a bit over zelus with the 4G icon, it is much faster than a 3G connection. Where I live in Orlando is a 4G area and I get over 20mbs download speeds and over 2mbps upload speeds..
Side note though.. it is funny that people still use "" or call it 3.5G when the T-Mobile network has been accepted as 4G for almost a year now .. I tried to find the artical but its being illusive today..
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Officially, 4G is supposed to get 1000mbs peak download. Tmobile uses HSPA+ which peaks at ~80mbs. I think that is why people call it 3.5G or use the "4G" when talking Tmobile.
When I first got my galaxy s3, telus said it would come with 4g lte. It worked well and on the top notification section, it specifically said, 4g lte. Now I'm trying out custom roms and such, and I downloaded CM10. However, on CM10, the icon no longer says 4g lte, but it says H+. When I revert back to my old rom, it says 4G (ONLY 4G, no LTE at the end). Can anyone tell me why my data connection has been demoted, or if it has been demoted at all? Should I just give Telus a call and ask whats up with this?
And yes, LTE is available in my area, I'm in Vancouver.
Thanks
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When I first got my galaxy s3, telus said it would come with 4g lte. It worked well and on the top notification section, it specifically said, 4g lte. Now I'm trying out custom roms and such, and I downloaded CM10. However, on CM10, the icon no longer says 4g lte, but it says H+. When I revert back to my old rom, it doesn't say 4G (i ahven't seen it say LTE at the end yet though). Anyone can tell me why my data connection has been demoted, or if it has been demoted at all? Should I just give Telus a call and ask whats up with this?
And yes, LTE is available in my area, I'm in Vancouver.
Thanks
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I have the same problem: I have ATT, since using custom ROM (TASK ROM) i have lost LTE, even though the APN settings are correct, the only way that i've have gotten LTE back is by going to the store and getting a NEW micro-SIM , then LTE works, and to answer your question, H+ is just HSDPA+ and 4G is LTE.
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I have the same problem: I have ATT, since using custom ROM (TASK ROM) i have lost LTE, even though the APN settings are correct, the only way that i've have gotten LTE back is by going to the store and getting a NEW micro-SIM , then LTE works, and to answer your question, H+ is just HSDPA+ and 4G is LTE.
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Thanks!
And just for clarification: when you got the new micro sim, were you able to combine both the custom rom and 4g lte? Or is it one or the other?
yeah apparently in canadian carriers, they're changing up things, like for example our rom on ics, i get 4g and LTE even tho im on 4g plan but s3 is LTE but some custom roms such as cm9,10,miui,aokp and so forth have things setup to h+ and for example even tho you might LTE speeds on cm10 via toggle of LTE on, it'll still show 4g meaning it is LTE but its just how structure in systemui is setup. eventually we all hope it'll change, best way to find your speeds and confirm what you're getting is Speed test via market and it'll tell u all.. hope it all helps
edit and it'll also depend which towers are setup in which configuration, such as if you're closer to main junction of cities for example Toronto for me, i'll get LTE like whoa but say im in brampton now it might have towers catching LTE but not as frequent hence it'll fallback on 4g.
AOSP ROMs will always be G, E, 3G, H, H+, 4G
G - GPRS
E - Edge
3G - 3G
H - 3.5G down
H+ - 3.5 G up/down
4G - LTE
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AOSP ROMs will always be G, E, 3G, H, H+, 4G
G - GPRS
E - Edge
3G - 3G
H - 3.5G down
H+ - 3.5 G up/down
4G - LTE
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yeah like as i was saying structure is based upon that. the reason why those structures don't change is because vanilla roms aka aosp roms are not just based on 1 type of device but 1000 of devices so you can imagine, doing 1,000 different things, ahh id go nuts haha
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yeah like as i was saying structure is based upon that. the reason why those structures don't change is because vanilla roms aka aosp roms are not just based on 1 type of device but 1000 of devices so you can imagine, doing 1,000 different things, ahh id go nuts haha
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Well it's just a more accurate representation of what you are connected to... Despite what all the carriers say, the stock rom only saying 4g, is NOT 4g... it's 3.5g which is better represented with H, and H+.... Marketing schemes really... True 4G is LTE...
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Well it's just a more accurate representation of what you are connected to... Despite what all the carriers say, the stock rom only saying 4g, is NOT 4g... it's 3.5g which is better represented with H, and H+.... Marketing schemes really... True 4G is LTE...
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yes sir, true it is marketing schemes haha i didn't wanna say it out loud but hey sometimes you gotta do those things to sell =) right ,as carrier perspective if they can sell all the stock for the devices and make the money they're happy, and we're happy lol.
I've noticed with my device that LTE coverage, at least in my local area, is fairly sparse, but occasionally present nevertheless.
If you're not seeing it at all, you might check that LTE is enabled in two places: check Settings -> More -> Mobile Networks -> Network Mode for an LTE setting; and dial *#*#4636#*#* to pull up the Testing menu, go to Phone Information, and check "Set Preferred Network Type" for an LTE setting. Doing both of these allowed my phone to start seeing the LTE network.
Hey all! Ok, so my gf has had this S2 from Koodo (Telus) since January. Out of the box it came with LTE/4G enabled and working fine. However, I rarely leave things alone and right away I installed TWRP, AOKP and I think, Tiberius Kernel. Have been using variations of each since. However, ever since I did that, the 4G hasn't worked. In the phone settings it says LTE/GSM Auto. However if I change it to anything else, like LTE ONLY, for example, it just stays at LTE/GSM auto. Nothing happens. So I am wondering how to get her 4G to work again since I know it is fully capable of it and my area does have working LTE.
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Hey all! Ok, so my gf has had this S2 from Koodo (Telus) since January. Out of the box it came with LTE/4G enabled and working fine. However, I rarely leave things alone and right away I installed TWRP, AOKP and I think, Tiberius Kernel. Have been using variations of each since. However, ever since I did that, the 4G hasn't worked. In the phone settings it says LTE/GSM Auto. However if I change it to anything else, like LTE ONLY, for example, it just stays at LTE/GSM auto. Nothing happens. So I am wondering how to get her 4G to work again since I know it is fully capable of it and my area does have working LTE.
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The t989d doesn't have lte. Doesn't have the hardware for it.
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Ok but my mother has the same phone (got them each one) but I haven't touched that one and it says 4G by the signal bars... Why is that?
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santeana said:
Ok but my mother has the same phone (got them each one) but I haven't touched that one and it says 4G by the signal bars... Why is that?
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4g is the same as H+ on custom roms. And now some say DC. Not sure why they left behind the 4g symbol, but its all the same thing. So if you see H+, DC or 4g, its all actually 4g.
You should be on GSM/wcdma preferred in mobile settings.
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4g is the same as H+ on custom roms. And now some say DC. Not sure why they left behind the 4g symbol, but its all the same thing. So if you see H+, DC or 4g, its all actually 4g.
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Oh ok! Thanks!
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I have sorta the same problem, except I have a tmobile s2 t989. I flashed cm 10.1 nightlies and the newest radio. Phone works good except my phone no longer shows the 4G symbol above the signal bars. It instead says 3G. Before rooting it said 4G above the signal bars. Every once in a while it says DC. Any advice?
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I have sorta the same problem, except I have a tmobile s2 t989. I flashed cm 10.1 nightlies and the newest radio. Phone works good except my phone no longer shows the 4G symbol above the signal bars. It instead says 3G. Before rooting it said 4G above the signal bars. Every once in a while it says DC. Any advice?
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Explained the symbols in posts above. And if you are getting a lot of 3g....that's reception. Your losing your 4g connection and its picking up 3g. Usually for this to happen you'd only be getting about 1 bar on your signal.
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kj2112 said:
Explained the symbols in posts above. And if you are getting a lot of 3g....that's reception. Your losing your 4g connection and its picking up 3g. Usually for this to happen you'd only be getting about 1 bar on your signal.
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I appreciate the info. I live in Orlando and I'm pretty sure we have tmobiles 4g or hspa+. I was just wondering why I'm only getting 3G date speeds instead of 4G speeds. The internet still seems relatively fast but wanted to make sure the phone wasn't slowing down the speeds to 3G speeds.
iMacMane said:
I have sorta the same problem, except I have a tmobile s2 t989. I flashed cm 10.1 nightlies and the newest radio. Phone works good except my phone no longer shows the 4G symbol above the signal bars. It instead says 3G. Before rooting it said 4G above the signal bars. Every once in a while it says DC. Any advice?
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Aosp ROMs run on 3g (umts) until data is called. Once data is called it will pull up h+(hspa+)or dc(dc-hspa) depending on your area. Its a battery saving feature and the stock Samsung ROMs show 4g all the time. Unless on edge or GPRS. I think even touchwiz ROMs went to umts while idle.
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i managed to get my captivate rooted last night and now i no longer have 4g it was replaced by an h+ and my internet only works now if the h+ is visable on the screen witch happens to be like 2 times a day for maby 3 or 4 min. how can i get my 4g back?
well for now im unrooting it and going back tot he stock rom to get my 4g back if anyone knows of the fix please let me know of it
The Captivate Glide isn't capable of actual 4G. The "4G" logo you're seeing is in reality HSPA+. Whatever custom ROM you had just said HSPA+ instead of "4G". HSPA+ is considered "4G" by AT&T.
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The Captivate Glide isn't capable of actual 4G. The "4G" logo you're seeing is in reality HSPA+. Whatever custom ROM you had just said HSPA+ instead of "4G". HSPA+ is considered "4G" by AT&T.
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something was wrong for sure. the stock rom saying 4g even if it is the same the stock rom still did my internet even without the 4g icon present where as the rooted stock rom would only connect online if the h+ was on the screen next to the signal bars. how could i get the internet working better on the rooted rom?
got it. installed cwm anp used a different rom. working great now.