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Hey peeps, well I've jsut got my phone replaced and got it back to how I like it working and loving every minute again lol
So my and swmbo have decided that we'd like to do a little walking\hiking and I was wondering if anyone is running any gps software for hillwalking?
Early days to pick one but would appreciate anyones advice.
have you tried this.. gps software
hi..i do a lot of running and have tried "sportypal " which is a free software for running, cycling, blading, walking, skiing or other workouts involving similar activities...it works for me.......just google ....for it...or try www.freewarepocketpc.net ....works fine on my hd
There's GPSed, which lets you record your route and attach photos at the points you took them (based on the time they were taken, so you can use a camera that doesn't geotag the pics if you want).
http://gpsed.com/
The basic version is free, but the pro version isn't.
Memory Map Pocket Navigator runs on the HD (main program installs on your PC and self-installs Pocket Nav to the phone, with the PC app syncing maps, overlays and routes to the device as required via USB). National maps (OSGB,USGS, etc.) and elevation data sold for most places and you can scan in your own maps. It's far from free, but kinda good.
http://www.memory-map.com/
The only issue on the HD is the footer menu bar icons are a strange color, but they're legible and work fine. As with most GPS apps you need to make sure you've got A-GPS turned off on the HD settings menu (quickGPS can stay on for updates, but A-GPS interferes with the NMEA data and the app continually drops out of lock).
I think you can also give Garmin a shot. If I remember you can get different map types.
I use GPS Cycle Computer v3 when I go hiking in the lakes, it has very good options for saving battery life. It was designed for the Diamond but works perfectly on the HD. Creates GPX & KLM files for importing into Google earth etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424423
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All these recommendations are sub-standard if compared to RunGPS (portable trainer): it is not cheap (you get what you pay for), but it does everything, including taking you back where you left, if you get so much into running or other outdoor activities, and you get lost. All this via voice guidance. Furthermore, the application constantly monitors your parameters as you run and reads these aloud to you, including total distance and burned calories! If you have a supported-heart-beat monitor device, this can be attached, too! Simply the best! You also have online-map support.
Sorry, I am not affiliated to this company, but this application is cool. No offence to other suggestions!
www.rungps.net
For the simplest GPS tracking program, I use NoniPlot. Fairly good for mapless gps tracking.
carola said:
All these recommendations are sub-standard if compared to RunGPS (portable trainer): it is not cheap (you get what you pay for), but it does everything, including taking you back where you left, if you get so much into running or other outdoor activities, and you get lost. All this via voice guidance. Furthermore, the application constantly monitors your parameters as you run and reads these aloud to you, including total distance and burned calories! If you have a supported-heart-beat monitor device, this can be attached, too! Simply the best! You also have online-map support.
Sorry, I am not affiliated to this company, but this application is cool. No offence to other suggestions!
www.rungps.net
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i agree 100% . if you try rungps you'll never want to use any other software!
well I disagree with statements about rungps.. I found run unstable and overpriced, but each to their own..
I much prefer memory map, gps cycle computer and my favourite gpsvp.
I teach DofE award (and bel) in the UK, and memory map works exactlly as needed (for winding up lost pupils, by showing them exactly where they've just walked compared to where they should be walking). The Desktop version is great for showing what contours they are likely to come across and gives a great visual lesson in map interpretation.
GpsVp works great when I'm cycling overseas where OS maps aren't available, and gps cycle computer for generally logging my rides with the minimum of fuss.
fards said:
well I disagree with statements about rungps.. I found run unstable and overpriced, but each to their own..
I much prefer memory map, gps cycle computer and my favourite gpsvp.
I teach DofE award (and bel) in the UK, and memory map works exactlly as needed (for winding up lost pupils, by showing them exactly where they've just walked compared to where they should be walking). The Desktop version is great for showing what contours they are likely to come across and gives a great visual lesson in map interpretation.
GpsVp works great when I'm cycling overseas where OS maps aren't available, and gps cycle computer for generally logging my rides with the minimum of fuss.
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I am sorry, but even looking at the interface (website), I feel as if installing this piece of software would result in my HD (OS) stating that this software was written for an earrlier version of the operating system.
I have both RunGPS and SportyPal (http://www.sportypal.com/) on my X1. Both are great. RunGPS has a few more features... but SportyPal is free.
how is the SportyPal in case of battery consumption? for example, if I want to use it fore 7 hours of recording my skiing or a long bike trip or a whole day hiking...
thanks
I've tried many apps like that but they either don't do what I want or are too complex and I cannot make them do what I want. I'm looking for an app which would:
- display tracks in gpx or kmz format
- let me choose a certain area and download maps for all/selected zoom levels (at least google maps, ideally ordnance survey) for offline use.
I can normally use google maps app which displays kmz (or kml, cannot remember) tracks and obviously lets you see maps, but it works only when I have signal and 9 times out of 10 I do hillwalking where there's no signal whatsoever.
Does anybody know an app which would have at least these 2 features?
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I've tried many apps like that but they either don't do what I want or are too complex and I cannot make them do what I want. I'm looking for an app which would:
- display tracks in gpx or kmz format
- let me choose a certain area and download maps for all/selected zoom levels (at least google maps, ideally ordnance survey) for offline use.
I can normally use google maps app which displays kmz (or kml, cannot remember) tracks and obviously lets you see maps, but it works only when I have signal and 9 times out of 10 I do hillwalking where there's no signal whatsoever.
Does anybody know an app which would have at least these 2 features?
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I haven't tried all the above mentioned gps software but with rungps you can do both.
you can create your own maps and place them in rungps folder for offline use
OK let me be a bit more specific - I want to be able to cache maps from the phone itself, so without a need to use a PC. If this software is able to do this please let me know how, because I've downloaded the trial of rungps and I cannot do any of these things.
Thanks
hm hm hm. i am testing sportypal right now. everything seems ok, but...have do I manage, that recording of my route does not stops everytime when the device turns into sleeping mode (which is automatic). is there any chance to have the device sleep (that helps battery) and still have active recording?
I was today on a 40 km bike trip and what I have found is point A (my home) and point B (place where I stopped the recording) and just a air line between them :-(
I have just one positive recording - when i used car charger and recorded some driving (the device did´t converted into sleep mode).
any advice?
I don't thing is possible to still record your rout while the device is in sleeping mode. It will lose the GPS signal.
During my holiday in spain, i used at the same time rungps and garmin:
- Garmin mobiel XT for its topo map
- rungps for tracking, and for hiking statistics (distance, average speed, ...)
RunGPS is more stable than garmin for reliable tracking.
Full charged battery of the HD (in airplane more) can reach around 5 hours. For bigger duration hikings, i had an external 3000mAh usb battery. During a 8 hours hiking, i plugged the battery after 4 hours (25%) and 4 hours later, my HD was fully charger and the external battery was not empty yet.
Why not give geocaching a go? they have a cool app that works well on the HD called GCzII.
Careful Geocachig is catching, the HD is ideal for it too!!
I'm sure we're all waiting for the 'proper' navigation software to arrive for WP7 (anyone any ideas when Orange Maps will go live?)
But in the meantime, I could do with a very simple GPS tracking app that will allow me to go walking out in the forest, and find my way back to the car.
I've downloaded most of the free or trial apps from Zune, but they all seem to require access to a data connection to display a map. I understand that the alternative is a local cached map (like TomTom) which is a problem, but I need something where the map is optional.
There is very patchy data coverage out in the forest around here (to be honest, the coverage is not great in the villages), but GPS is generally pretty good. I don't see why the app couldn't show your location, and either a plot of your route, or simply a direction and distance back to a saved location (i.e. where your car is). regardless of a map.
I've looked at many 'GPS' apps and 'Where's my car' apps, but all seem to require a data connection (apart from one GPS app that doesn't, but it requires you to enter your target location in degrees mins and secs, and doesn't give you an option to 'save' a current location).
There's one called 'Smartrunner' that looks possible, but all the reviews say it's crap and doesn't actually run on Wp7
Also, I'm guessing that it's the developer's choice to include a trial version of paid software (as not all of them do) - I'm very reluctant to pay for anything at this stage (as so many of the apps don't seem to work that well on all phones). - What does eveeryone else think?
It is in general alot smother, and I have not had it crash once!
The Marketplace is much better, no crashing, its always slick, doesnt hang while loading more apps in the list, and the new way of searching is much better.
(However I cannot find a few apps, I assume they have been removed from the marketplace, for example MusicShark?)
Copy and Paste works quite well, took me a few tries to realise the paste section is where the text correction area is.
Faults I have noted so far are...
1. Not sure if it is just me because I have only tried once so far, but after pairing with my car headunit. My car headunit no longer detects the HD7 as a bluetooth audio streaming device, and only as a handsfree device. Which is very annoying.
2.When pressing search in internet explorer, it no longer loads a web page, but loads the bing application.
Overall, it makes the phone even nicer to use, it just feels that bit more responsive, and it way more stable!
Has anyone else used NoDo, who can confirm the above faults?
I am running it on an O2 UK HD7 with 32gb.
UPDATE: after 1 days usage
Im finding reception better, battery seems to be a bit better too. Still not had one thing crash on me.
Bluetooth audio streaming does work, however its still low quality like it was in 7004/7008, so I cant wait to unlock it again so I can change the registry entry.
Audio streaming still does not work for playing videos.
Push notification seem to work fine all the time now too, I had problems initially getting them to work on some applications (they would work after trying a few times/restarting) but now they just work.
I havent had chance to check for hidden wireless networks yet, the WiFi menu seems identical though (There is nothing to manually type in any settings.)
Overall, it feels now like how I would have expected the phone to feel when I first got it. Everything it does, it does it really well, and it is a pleasure to use.
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2.When pressing search in internet explorer, it no longer loads a web page, but loads the bing application.
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That's how it's supposed to be.
I can remember a branded T-Mobile ROM where you've been redirected to a stupid search website after pressing the search-button but the standard action is opening BING.
We have three devices in this house hold, a HD7, 7 Mozart and a HD2 with Windows Phone 7, obiously the HD2 hasn't been released yet but the other two are much more reliable. I haven't had a single screen tearing on the HD7 since the update and both phones are much more responsive especially within internet explorer where I used to have numerous crashes.
Copy and paste works lovely although on occasion I have to tap a couple of times for it to pop up the option to copy.
Marketplace is more reliable and stable than the original RTM build and the search changes are greatly welcomed.
I haven't really noticed a change in speed loading application, although the only program I have ever had issues with is Bejewelled Live which takes quite a while to load even after the update.
All running nice and smoothly, just missing having Chevron WP7 to copy over my ringtones.
Just tried Bluetooth again, it works fine
I'm glad it shows the bing app instead of Yahoo search like it did before. Its just I expected it to load the bing web page
So all in all I find it perfect now, just need some sideloading back
You Guys receive the Official NoDo update or did you Flash the leak ROM. I'm Glad to hear that its a STABLE Update & Didn't cause any problem, otherwise this general form will be flooded w/ cry babies.
And what about connecting to hidden wifi networks and sound output while playing videos while using a bluetooth headset?
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And what about connecting to hidden wifi networks and sound output while playing videos while using a bluetooth headset?
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Good call - and not just watching video through the headset but using the headset's button to initiate Voice Commands and the headset's microphone to talk the command into.
Just posted a quick update.
I am using the non-goldcard flashed method of getting NoDo, it was nice and easy to do
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Audio streaming still does not work for playing videos.
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After almost half year and MS still can't get this obvious bug to fix. The next update (Mango) will take another half year, and MS is totally silenced when it will get resolve (and who knows if that would be delay too base on MS's current pace). I am totally sick of it and finally have to leave the MS mobile camp after 10+ yrs relationship with MS (my 1st PPC device is iPaq 2210 and my last would be Samsung Focus).
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I have to say one thing, some apps really do load faster!! Max and the magic marker used to take an age to load. Now it seems to load in less than half the time.
I wonder if the delays to the update were due to manufactures including bug fixs for specific phones, which means following updates shouldn't be delayed
Is scrolling in 3rd-party apps better (i.e. not lagging like it is now)?
Not really, I feel like it might have improved slightly... but that might just be because I want it to feel faster lol
i also had some first Impressions of my new nodo
new voice command sound, also understands me very good now.
new htc theme color (nice green)
mozart camera has autofous now (kinda annoying does anyone else have sound feedback, like clicky sound?)
but it does great pictures now, 2 shoots, both perfect, maybe it was luck but it seems it working way better now..
autofocus in video has improoved alot, also recording quallity has greatly improoved in low light and its more stable it seems! yay!
office version 14.0
sharepoint workspace mobile 14 , is that new?
overall its breezing fast, you press it, it opens. awesome!
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After almost half year and MS still can't get this obvious bug to fix. The next update (Mango) will take another half year, and MS is totally silenced when it will get resolve (and who knows if that would be delay too base on MS's current pace). I am totally sick of it and finally have to leave the MS mobile camp after 10+ yrs relationship with MS (my 1st PPC device is iPaq 2210 and my last would be Samsung Focus).
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Where were you when Apple and Apple fanboys were bashing MS non stop. Nowhere. And now all you do is complain.
You should have been more supportive of MS before. You should have help defend then and spread the word.
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The reason some third party apps lag is because they're badly coded, so no OS update in the world will fix this.
$39.99, no trial. Let's just say at least it's a step forward.
http://www.wpcentral.com/garmin-streetpilot-hits-marketplace
...lets hope the European version will follow soon...
Too bad you can't download the full maps, though. You need to download your maps on a "per route" basis.
I am somewhat greatfull that I have t-mobile germany, so I get the Navigon App for "free". Here, I don't need a data volume to navigate.
It's available for the US and Canada.
Is it just a case of a locked API that no one is currently offering a GPS navigation app that has maps pre-loaded?
All these ones that are coming out that need a data connection are pretty useless since i only really use sat-nav out in the sticks where i don't get reception.
I'm not keen on having to pre-download a map each time i make a journey either.
I really miss IGo8 off my old Blackstone
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Is it just a case of a locked API that no one is currently offering a GPS navigation app that has maps pre-loaded?
All these ones that are coming out that need a data connection are pretty useless since i only really use sat-nav out in the sticks where i don't get reception.
I'm not keen on having to pre-download a map each time i make a journey either.
I really miss IGo8 off my old Blackstone
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I do not think it is API problem. They seem to keep storing the maps as you keep using new routes. I think they are using on-demand maps as a DRM method. It is difficult to pirate when the app keeps communicating (and authenticating) with Garmin servers.
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Too bad you can't download the full maps, though. You need to download your maps on a "per route" basis.
I am somewhat greatfull that I have t-mobile germany, so I get the Navigon App for "free". Here, I don't need a data volume to navigate.
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Agreed on the Navigon software; the 3.0 version is outstanding. And looks far more "metro" in style than this $40 software.
I believe the reason we are not seeing any offline gps software (ie with offline maps and offline routing) is because these companies have algorithms and "engines" for planning routes, and they cannot (or don't want to) convert these DLLs to silverlight. MS doesn't allow you to use your own proprietary code and DLLs in the marketplace. So the only proper nav apps with offline routing and maps, such as Navigon, can only exist if they are manufacturer or carrier-supplied (in the same way that HTC can offer compass and flashlight apps).
Pity this is US/Canada only... really after a decent nav app (Turn-By-Turn's (GPSTuner) POI's dont work in Australia!)
It is a shame for those in other regions, but for those of us in North America, it is pretty sweet. My only gripes with the app are the fact that they didn't include a "run under lock screen" option (a must-have option for Focus users), and the voice seems, at times, to be over-compressed, and comes out just a tad fuzzy. By way of comparison the voice on the AT&T Navigator app is crystal clear. But that is about the only advantage it has over Garmin's new app.
Hello,
I think that navigon will be for Europe.
anyway, it is a very good GPS (navigon) I used this program in try v3.
it's great.
I like it. Looks promising. However I would not get it. I already have a gps for that reason.
I picked it up a couple of days and tried it out and was sorely unimpressed.
Issues:
1) It lost the satellite sync a number of times in urban, but not downtown Seattle.
2) It seems to have no sense of correcting the raw data. For example, if I'm travelling along a highway at speed, you'd think that I'd be going in the same heading as the road. It apparently just reads the raw compass data, resulting in the appearance of a perpetual power slide as I drive.
3) When it loses me and recalculates, it treats it like I'm starting a new trip (with the same phrase at the beginning) and may want me to start on a different, albeit nearby road.
4) Position inaccuracy kept it thinking I was moving when I wasn't. This happened a LOT, although clearly it new I wasn't moving much, and reset me.
5) It doesn't have street names like TomTom.
6) It doesn't let me pull from Contacts. Maybe when Mango is released?
The real summary here is that if I hadn't known where I was going, it would have taken me a fairly poor direction as it would lose me, think I was relatively far away, and start calling out instructions from that. I'd rather use Bing Maps (which I think the touching idea is terrible) or TomTom on my iPad. I got the Garmin because TomTom won't, for some reason, allow my traffic subscription to work on the iPad.
There are some things about the app I like:
1) Data entry for the address was nice. I preferred it over the TomTom.
2) Screen layout is nice.
3) Pictures of road changes are amazing!
I haven't experienced the first two issues you described at all, so I can neither confirm nor deny them .
Issue 3 is a minor annoyance (although I've never had it place me on the wrong street), but I hope it is addressed in an update soon.
Issue 4 I have seen a couple of times, but it did correct very quickly.
For issue 5, I have no idea what you mean. My copy always speaks the correct street name as I approach a turn. Maybe it varies by area, but I am in a much more rural area than Seattle, so I would expect that I would experience that problem before you would.
Issue 6 has nothing to do with the app, it is strictly an API issue. No GPS app on the marketplace today can pull from your contacts. But that will come with Mango.
I have not tried this app yet but i have tried and am currently using Navigon Select 3.0 form this thread and i must say that for the 1 day of testing it, it is working great. BTW, i am a bit biased when it comes to Navigon, i have been using it for a long time now on my old Iphone 3G.
Garmin broken?
I recently started having a problem with the Garmin Streetpilot. Every time i run it, it says "Acquiring Satellite" but never seems to acquire the satellite. I've let it go 15 minutes while driving, and no dice.
I remember getting a Samsung software to improve my GPS reception, and assumed it had somehow broken Garmin. Today I restored my phone back to NoDo, and then got the offical Mango upgrade, this time without getting the Samsung App. Installed Garmin, and wham, exact same problem. It just can't acquire the satellite. I went ahead and grabbed the Samsung app and tried it again, but still no dice.
Does anybody have the Garmin working on their successfully? I'm wondering if they put out an update i missed that broke the app.
I've never had that problem on my Focus, although the previous version wasn't very precise in following the road. However, I briefly tried the new Mango version yesterday (which presumably includes compass support), it had no trouble at all.
I'm starting to suspect the problem is that I didn't get a Samsung firmware update, so my compass isn't working. I'm wondering if the Garmin keeps trying to ping the compass and getting stuck because it can't access it?
That's possible, but I don't think the app would report that the satellite could not be acquired if the only problem was a missing compass.
I agree it doesn't make sense, but given what i've seen in software development, it wouldn't be too surprising.
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I recently started having a problem with the Garmin Streetpilot. Every time i run it, it says "Acquiring Satellite" but never seems to acquire the satellite. I've let it go 15 minutes while driving, and no dice.
I remember getting a Samsung software to improve my GPS reception, and assumed it had somehow broken Garmin. Today I restored my phone back to NoDo, and then got the offical Mango upgrade, this time without getting the Samsung App. Installed Garmin, and wham, exact same problem. It just can't acquire the satellite. I went ahead and grabbed the Samsung app and tried it again, but still no dice.
Does anybody have the Garmin working on their successfully? I'm wondering if they put out an update i missed that broke the app.
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I'm having exactly the same problem on Focus (Mango) using StreetPilot 7.5.
Hello, does anyone know if Microsoft has turned off support for Bing Maps and Navigation in the Windows Mobile app? I found that starting late last week, Bing can no longer find anything when searching for addresses or businesses in the maps section of the app.
Searching for an address/business in maps returns the error "Sorry, we can't complete your search. Please check your connection and try again."
Searching for an address or business in the navigation section (Endpoint) returns "Sorry, we couldn't find this location."
Trying to navigate to a favorited address returns the error: "We were unable to generate your route. Try again?"
Using an HTC Touch Pro 2, WM 6.5 App, Sprint is the carrier, Bing Mobile version 5.1.2010.6280
I think everyone including MS is trying to bury WM 6... so this does not surprise me.
As far as navigation I would try and find a copy of Garmin XT. The only reason Im still using my Tilt 2 is because of the no data plan required GPS G-XT. Its truly amazing
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Hello, does anyone know if Microsoft has turned off support for Bing Maps and Navigation in the Windows Mobile app? I found that starting late last week, Bing can no longer find anything when searching for addresses or businesses in the maps section of the app.
Searching for an address/business in maps returns the error "Sorry, we can't complete your search. Please check your connection and try again."
Searching for an address or business in the navigation section (Endpoint) returns "Sorry, we couldn't find this location."
Trying to navigate to a favorited address returns the error: "We were unable to generate your route. Try again?"
Using an HTC Touch Pro 2, WM 6.5 App, Sprint is the carrier, Bing Mobile version 5.1.2010.6280
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I used bing navigation two days ago and it worked fine.
Sounds like you need to do some housecleaning on your device.
Also, I suggest you update QuickGPS then after that soft reset and then after rebooting completely open the bing app and try it.
Obsolete
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I used bing navigation two days ago and it worked fine.
Sounds like you need to do some housecleaning on your device.
Also, I suggest you update QuickGPS then after that soft reset and then after rebooting completely open the bing app and try it.
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might just not be working in his country or region?
bing not working
same problem here.
i get: "Sorry, we cannot complete your search. Please check your connection and try again"
with any search string.
I'm using a HTC Touch Pro2 on sprint.
between opera, Bing, and SERO I really didn't see any need to upgrade my phone. but losing Bing really reduces the functionality of my phone.
Yes, I have re-installed Bing, updated quick GPS.
The same thing has happened to me. I"m using an HTC Touch Pro 2, WM 6.5 App, and Sprint is the carrier. Bing mobile has worked for me for about a year, all of sudden last week the Navigation no longer works, can't find any addresses. The Map works and can "Locate Me", but I'm unable to get driving directions.
I noticed that Navigation is grayed out in Bing Settings. Does anyone know a resolution to all of this? Thanks
Microsoft is really trying hard to eliminate WinMo from everyone's memory...
Have you guys tried Waze...?
Waze seems nice but it keeps crashing sense on exit. If I can find a workaround I'll definitely use it, although I will miss the voice search Bing offered.
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Waze seems nice but it keeps crashing sense on exit. If I can find a workaround I'll definitely use it, although I will miss the voice search Bing offered.
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Waze doesn't have voice search? I guess the voice search I use in Waze is provided thru the OS not Waze itself... Never used Waze on WinMo, only Android and iOS... Sorry.
Have you tried disabling Sense? I know, it's really the only thing that makes WinMo bearable...
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Waze doesn't have voice search? I guess the voice search I use in Waze is provided thru the OS not Waze itself... Never used Waze on WinMo, only Android and iOS... Sorry.
Have you tried disabling Sense? I know, it's really the only thing that makes WinMo bearable...
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using the task manager to kill Waze avoids the problem.
I might give Waze a shot. I've actually been running Android on the phone and using Google Navigation and it has been going pretty well. Voice search works real well, and Google Nav seems just as good as Bing at navigating around traffic. Biggest complaint at the moment is that Qik doesn't work on it, but it hasn't worked on Windows Mobile in over a year, so no big loss.
Android is a bit slow at times, but so far has been pretty damn stable. Most of the apps I've tried run decent enough. No games of course.
The biggest draw back of Android for me so far has been battery life. Some times the phone can easily go overnight without a charge, and other times it eats up the battery in 3 hours of no use. Seems like some of the third party apps don't properly close out when you're done using them and prevent the phone from going to sleep mode. I think I've managed to figure out who the trouble makers are (one was a garage sale app), and haven't noticed any problem with any of Google's apps or the major third party apps (Tapatalk, Facebook, Pandora, Opera).
Overall its been a very positive experience and instead of upgrading to a new phone I'm seriously considering continuing to use my TP2 but with Android as the primary OS for as long as possible.
I just have to keep reminding myself that playing the latest Angry Birds isn't worth $20/mo extra, and that while a better camera would be nice, I don't NEED it.
There are still a lot of Windows Mobile devices out there. In fact some carriers were still selling them less than a year ago. I know Microsoft sent an email out concerning closing the Market Place for Windows Mobile users, but I don't remember getting anything on Bing. It's funny how they don't support their own people and end up driving their long time users to other apps and OS's (ie. Google Maps/Android). Is there anywhere where you can at least ask the question of what the issue maybe and if they plan on fixing it.
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There are still a lot of Windows Mobile devices out there. In fact some carriers were still selling them less than a year ago. I know Microsoft sent an email out concerning closing the Market Place for Windows Mobile users, but I don't remember getting anything on Bing. It's funny how they don't support their own people and end up driving their long time users to other apps and OS's (ie. Google Maps/Android). Is there anywhere where you can at least ask the question of what the issue maybe and if they plan on fixing it.
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You can try tweeting them I guess... Social media has made large companies respond to small issues before.
I don't think Microsoft will really care about any issues with WinMo, they want you to buy a WP7 phone. They continue to support WinMo, they're basically continuing the loss of revenue.
I can guarantee you I will not be buying a Windows 7 Phone based purely on the way MS has treated WM users, especially after promising that they would continue to support WM.
Also, here's a post I made about this at the Bing forums and the response:
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/bingmaps/thread/e0922592-ec17-4a37-8d3d-1e0b70413303
Short answer, MS turned off the token service the app was using.
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Short answer, MS turned off the token service the app was using.
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I figured it was something like this. Thanks for closure, even if it's not the kind you were hoping for...
Android FTW
This is lunacy! Bing mobile was the only reason I still have a WinMo device. Does MS really think by disabling Bing mobile is really going to make me by a Win 7 phone? NOT! Guess where I'll be going next? Not MS because of the heavy hand treatment.
There is no harm in letting an app continue to work. We've all expected no more updates, but disabling = alienating. This is the last straw, bye MS!
With all that said, I've been trying alternatives for navigation and Waze seems to be the best free. Google maps is OK, but the GPS is not accurate and the text is super small to read so not really useful while driving. I found others that seemed promising but just cant get them to work. I'll stick with Waze for now until I get an iPhone or Android.
This is so unfortunate since Bing mobile was by far, better than any navigation app (including TomTom), even on the iPhone (my wife has an iPhone so I've tried others). I have no idea why MS keeps shooting themselves in the foot. Get a clue MS! This is why you are so far behind everyone else! Its not your technology, its your execution!
Try loading Android on your phone. I've been having good luck with Google Navigation, it bypasses traffic like Bing does, and its search is much better at finding destinations.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171052
The release I linked to there is stable and most everything works. The only "trick" I had to learn was to put WM into Airplane mode before launching Android.
shawndoc said:
I can guarantee you I will not be buying a Windows 7 Phone based purely on the way MS has treated WM users, especially after promising that they would continue to support WM.
Also, here's a post I made about this at the Bing forums and the response:
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/bingmaps/thread/e0922592-ec17-4a37-8d3d-1e0b70413303
Short answer, MS turned off the token service the app was using.
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this is crazy, first myphone then marketplace now bing. what the heck. for tyhr first time im actually considering moving to android. ive been playong with waze and it is an awesome idea but the navigation is not comparable to a standalone gps where bing was almost. The fact that i could do voice searches actually made it better then my old garmin. I was gonna update my dad to a smartphone and give him an extra tp2 figuring he could really use a gps. Now that sprint forced us to update too a current plan im gonna try the sprint navigation. I went to see your post and microsofts response but they seemed to remove it. what did they say?
Weird, wonder why they removed it. Guess they were getting flamed by angry people after their response.
Basically someone from MS said that he wasn't familiar with the Bing app for WM, but that they'd recently turned off the "old" token service. So if the old app used those tokens to communication to the Bing servers, it wouldn't work any more.
And again, I'd suggest loading Android on the TP2 and trying out Google Navigation. It has a voice search that seems much better than the Bing app for voice recognition, and much better at finding locations.