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I feel bad but I just un-rooted my regaw_leinad rooted EVO using djR3Z method so I could apply the new update. I know there were other ways of doing it but it just seemed the more sensible way for a noob. I really wanted to root to get rid of that FPS cap anyways. I didn't do one single thing to my EVO while rooted besides download a screengrabber app that I didn't even use... I am still learning all about what is possible with root on Android, and until I find something totally mind blowing I think I'll keep stock.
Can anyone give me any reasons why I should have root besides custom roms??? I love the idea but not the headaches it gives me...
And, if custom roms are the big idea, what benefits will that give? Don't they run a little finicky anyways? Not all features are enabled, e.g. 4g?
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generalExpert said:
I feel bad but I just un-rooted my regaw_leinad rooted EVO using djR3Z method so I could apply the new update. I know there were other ways of doing it but it just seemed the more sensible way for a noob. I really wanted to root to get rid of that FPS cap anyways. I didn't do one single thing to my EVO while rooted besides download a screengrabber app that I didn't even use... I am still learning all about what is possible with root on Android, and until I find something totally mind blowing I think I'll keep stock.
Can anyone give me any reasons why I should have root besides custom roms??? I love the idea but not the headaches it gives me...
And, if custom roms are the big idea, what benefits will that give? Don't they run a little finicky anyways? Not all features are enabled, e.g. 4g?
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Custom ROMs are usually faster and have more features and customizations than the stock ROM. There are also tons of root-required apps that let you do crazy things to your phone like get free wireless hotspot, backup all of your apps with data and Market links, and change the apparent density of your display.
I'm somewhat of a noob and just made the switch.
WiFi tether
Remove some sprint apps
Custom boot animations
Like the above said, custom roms show a performance increase
Love the Quick Boot app
There are a bunch of threads around with more root apps you will most likely like.
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General, the benefit is freedom. if you waited a litttle bit you would already be able to flash the exact same rom rooted which is readily available. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=653
Good luck though.
Also, rooting takes like 2 seconds now that unrEVOked Forever is out.
A rooted phone nets you more options. There's no drawback to it. Why not?
generalExpert said:
I feel bad but I just un-rooted my regaw_leinad rooted EVO using djR3Z method so I could apply the new update. I know there were other ways of doing it but it just seemed the more sensible way for a noob. I really wanted to root to get rid of that FPS cap anyways. I didn't do one single thing to my EVO while rooted besides download a screengrabber app that I didn't even use... I am still learning all about what is possible with root on Android, and until I find something totally mind blowing I think I'll keep stock.
Can anyone give me any reasons why I should have root besides custom roms??? I love the idea but not the headaches it gives me...
And, if custom roms are the big idea, what benefits will that give? Don't they run a little finicky anyways? Not all features are enabled, e.g. 4g?
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Not everyone roots their phone - just the people here So, if you feel no need to root your phone, then don't.
I'm not a power user or speed freak so uncapping the fps isn't a big issue for me. I originally rooted my phone so I could use wireless tether. I'm staying rooted because I can play around with my phone a little more - change the boot animation (and turn off the sound), remove the Sprint apps that I don't use but that turn off automatically, and back up my apps and data and monitor my battery usage.
The custom roms are a quick way for me to accomplish my needs. I don't really like the Sense UI (which surprised me because I always though it was great-looking), so the roms give alternative ways to set up my phone.
Help with OTA
Hey guys. Okay I saw there is a update on xda. I'm using unrevoked3. Do I need to delete Unrevoked or just download the zip file that was released. I'm talking about about the deodexed and rooted.Im still lost on how where to put the updated file at? Please if anyone is in my boat and have had good results please tell me,im a noob,beginner,novice.
There is got to be someone who can explain in plain english lol..
Thanks everyone
Yes, I do feel crappy about it... I wish I was still rooted. I know the rooted update was available, but just thought that the OG update would run a bit better..?.. I guess I wanted to unroot to learn how among other things too. Believe it or not, doing that taught me a lot about hboot and recovery. At least I know I can always root again.
And YES, I HATE SENSE!!! But, I was reading on Cyanogen that CM6 had problems with the 4g and had a few bugs. But that vanilla android look is what I want!
Also, when non-rooted, is there no recovery? I clicked back into it just to check and it gave me a red exclamation mark over a phone...
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Custom ROMs are usually faster and have more features and customizations than the stock ROM. There are also tons of root-required apps that let you do crazy things to your phone like get free wireless hotspot, backup all of your apps with data and Market links, and change the apparent density of your display.
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Hey, thanks for the info... But along with all of the "Customness" and features aren't there also, bugs that go along with it? Like random reboots, and battery issues, and some other stuff?
Yes I love hacking stuff and know that this is all part of the fun, but I think I just need to research a little more. If you can't tell already I'm kind of paranoid about screwing things up. I rooted and really wanted to flash CM6 but didn't have the balls to. Maybe in a month or so i'll redo it.
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Hey, thanks for the info... But along with all of the "Customness" and features aren't there also, bugs that go along with it? Like random reboots, and battery issues, and some other stuff?
Yes I love hacking stuff and know that this is all part of the fun, but I think I just need to research a little more. If you can't tell already I'm kind of paranoid about screwing things up. I rooted and really wanted to flash CM6 but didn't have the balls to. Maybe in a month or so i'll redo it.
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Most of the custom ROMs are very stable and have better battery life than the stock ROM. As long as you make a nandroid backup there is ZERO risk to flashing a new ROM (assuming you don't like pull the battery out while flashing or something), so you can try one out for a few hours, and if you don't like it you can instantly go back to what you had before. Simple as pie. Give the major ones a whirl and see what you like. I know that there are some HTC ROMs themed to look like CM6 that have working 4G.
I also avoid cm6 because of the lack of 4g. Instead I use Vaelpak because it has minimal sense but enough so I can have my 4g. I'm thinking of trying Virus' mostly senseless rom.
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But that vanilla android look is what I want!
Also, when non-rooted, is there no recovery? I clicked back into it just to check and it gave me a red exclamation mark over a phone...
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When you mention the vanilla android look, what exactly are you referring to?
Is it the Vanilla theme and icons? -De-Odex roms would allow for custom themes that give the vanilla android look i.e. MrPuffin's Vanilla AOSP and Vanilla theme for Sense UI
Is it the android launcher? -Launcher Pro and ADW launcher are quite nice replacements to the Sense launcher
I'd think that if you didn't like the HTC Sense look, you would have kept root and just themed your phone to look Vanilla. Then again, it all comes down to what you believe provides the best user experience.
And regarding recovery, I believe Clockwork and Amon Ra require root.
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When you mention the vanilla android look, what exactly are you referring to?
Is it the Vanilla theme and icons? -De-Odex roms would allow for custom themes that give the vanilla android look i.e. MrPuffin's Vanilla AOSP and Vanilla theme for Sense UI
Is it the android launcher? -Launcher Pro and ADW launcher are quite nice replacements to the Sense launcher
I'd think that if you didn't like the HTC Sense look, you would have kept root and just themed your phone to look Vanilla. Then again, it all comes down to what you believe provides the best user experience.
And regarding recovery, I believe Clockwork and Amon Ra require root.
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Yes, by Vanilla Android i'm talkin Nexus One. Those themes look pretty good though. I'm already jonsen for root again and it's only been a half day.
Launcher Pro? Doesn't that just overlay Sense and therefore cause a bit of a slow down, use more memory, and possibly more battery. (probably not noticeable though..)
Yes, Clockwork and Amon_Ra require root. I was just wondering if there was a recovery in NON-ROOTED. When I'm in a non-rooted EVO at hboot, and select Recovery I get that red Exclamation mark over the phone and have to pull the battery.
Thanks for all your help!
Whoa thr new kernel allows up to 53 fps but std is 8+... on netarchys' kernel it was about 54 - 56 with a std of 4... at least that is how it behaves on mine.
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A rooted phone nets you more options. There's no drawback to it. Why not?
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there may be security drawbacks to those that are not cautious with the apps they install.
generalExpert said:
I feel bad but I just un-rooted my <EvO>.
I really wanted to root to get rid of that FPS cap anyways.
I didn't do one single thing to my EVO while rooted besides download a screengrabber app that I didn't even use
Can anyone give me any reasons why I should have root besides custom roms??? I love the idea but not the headaches it gives me...
And, if custom roms are the big idea, what benefits will that give? Don't they run a little finicky anyways? Not all features are enabled, e.g. 4g?
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- why feel bad?
- if the next statement is true, then the FPS cap must not have been an issue; else you would have done a google search on the issue and corrected it.
- if this statement is true, why feel bad?
- i dont find the need for so many custom ROMs (not like back when i was running on WinMo6). once you have 'root', adding/removing apps is straightforward and most of the ROMs are just a "here is my theme and apps, it's built on someone else who did the low level tweaking". custom ROM just makes it easier to get closer to what YOU want for an applist and themelayout. i like cm6 and dont' like theme's so life is easy for me.
- CM6 is AOSP. this means they will not use propriarty code (like Sense). for the EVO it also means the 4G radio software has to be written from scratch since there is no opensource 4G stuff to use yet. if you pick a Sense based rom (ie: anythign that doesn't refer to itself as CM6 or AOSP based).
Note: AOSP Like means that it is a Sense based ROM but it's been made to look/act similar to the CM6 or AOSP ROMs. 4G and Radio and such should work normally.
enjoy the free time associated with being Root-less.
Well, I'm re-rooted. Used the unrEVOked method. It was just so easy, there was no reason not to. Really want to get on cyanogen but waiting for the 4g.
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Hey guys I am a serious beginner to the android world. I just upgraded to the Nexus from a Blackberry. I am looking to root and add a rom to get the best performance from my phone. I have looked at a lot of threads and websites but because of my newness to this world, some of the instructions are not clear to me. I have a Mac and just want some step by step instructions that I can understand so I won't do anything wrong. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!
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Hey guys I am a serious beginner to the android world. I just upgraded to the Nexus from a Blackberry. I am looking to root and add a rom to get the best performance from my phone. I have looked at a lot of threads and websites but because of my newness to this world, some of the instructions are not clear to me. I have a Mac and just want some step by step instructions that I can understand so I won't do anything wrong. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!
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I will offer my opinion and you can do with it what you will.
First off I have no information about how, specifically, you root with a Mac.
Secondly, my advice is think hard about why you want root. I started rooting back with my HTC EVO and it was pretty cool - until the problems started. When I say problems, I should probably say bugs. I tried several roms and most were pretty good but all had their shortcomings, random reboots, force closes, etc. I finally ended up with Cyanogenmod (arguably the best rom out there) but even then I had problems. No autofocus in in video, no HDMI out and something else I can't put my finger on now - but really annoyed me.
In short, rooting is kind of a give and take between fun stuff and more bugs - IF you are using custom roms which most everyone does. The factory roms are written by the guys who make the phones and the custom roms are written by guys who are reverse-engineering the hardware/software so expect some problems. (Cyanogenmod even had a list of things that didn't work on their webpage). The Nexus is stock AOSP so the roms may be better but there is still the issue of custom kernels, radios, etc. If you don't get it JUST RIGHT you can have compatibility and stability problems.
My Nexus is still stock and is waiting for the official 4.0.4 OTA (over the air) update. It runs much more stable than my EVO with Cyanogenmod (or any other rom). If you want the best performance and don't NEED any of the functionality of root I'd personally just keep it stock. I've thought about rooting again, but ultimately I don't really need it. My friend switched from iOS to Android and rooted but kept having reboot issues on a couple roms and ultimately restored to stock and was fine. Same story with another friend who is currently (read: STILL) using a gen1 Droid.
Don't get me wrong, rooting is great - if you will really use it. But I wouldn't root just for the hell of it unless you don't mind the hassles.
YMMV
Good luck!
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I will offer my opinion and you can do with it what you will.
First off I have no information about how, specifically, you root with a Mac.
Secondly, my advice is think hard about why you want root. I started rooting back with my HTC EVO and it was pretty cool - until the problems started. When I say problems, I should probably say bugs. I tried several roms and most were pretty good but all had their shortcomings, random reboots, force closes, etc. I finally ended up with Cyanogenmod (arguably the best rom out there) but even then I had problems. No autofocus in in video, no HDMI out and something else I can't put my finger on now - but really annoyed me.
In short, rooting is kind of a give and take between fun stuff and more bugs - IF you are using custom roms which most everyone does. The factory roms are written by the guys who make the phones and the custom roms are written by guys who are reverse-engineering the hardware/software so expect some problems. (Cyanogenmod even had a list of things that didn't work on their webpage). The Nexus is stock AOSP so the roms may be better but there is still the issue of custom kernels, radios, etc. If you don't get it JUST RIGHT you can have compatibility and stability problems.
My Nexus is still stock and is waiting for the official 4.0.4 OTA (over the air) update. It runs much more stable than my EVO with Cyanogenmod (or any other rom). If you want the best performance and don't NEED any of the functionality of root I'd personally just keep it stock. I've thought about rooting again, but ultimately I don't really need it. My friend switched from iOS to Android and rooted but kept having reboot issues on a couple roms and ultimately restored to stock and was fine. Same story with another friend who is currently (read: STILL) using a gen1 Droid.
Don't get me wrong, rooting is great - if you will really use it. But I wouldn't root just for the hell of it unless you don't mind the hassles.
YMMV
Good luck!
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This is good info but... There are other reasons to root a device other than just running custom ROMS such as the ability to use Titanium Backup (for backing up your apps / device), AD Free (for getting rid of ad's in free apps) along with other great apps that you can only use when your device is rooted.
I am running a custom ROM and you are correct, I have / had some bugs with it so in this case for a NOOB the OP may be best to stay stock for the time being but there are other reasons to root.
OP - All I can say is READ, READ, READ and the READ SOMEMORE... Good luck and welcome to ANDROID!!!
As a fellow noob/semi noob I can highly recommend using youtube instead of text guides if available. There are a surprising amount of video guides that are alot easier to follow..
For me the posibility to do full and partial backups of my phone is the main reason i rooted.
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This is good info but... There are other reasons to root a device other than just running custom ROMS such as the ability to use Titanium Backup (for backing up your apps / device), AD Free (for getting rid of ad's in free apps) along with other great apps that you can only use when your device is rooted.
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Right. He mentioned rooting for performance so I assumed he meant he wanted to use a custom rom/kernel/radio. I rooted mostly for roms (HTC Sense, sigh) and tethering but titanium backup was awesome (although less useful if you don't switch roms every week lol). Adfree was alright but I don't notice much of a difference. Overclocking was fun, too - but except for benchmark scores I didn't notice much of a difference either.
If I root again it will be stock ASOP and only for tethering --- but only if I can find a 100% stock rom with just the carrier-tethering-tracker file removed.
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As a fellow noob/semi noob I can highly recommend using youtube instead of text guides if available. There are a surprising amount of video guides that are alot easier to follow..
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+1!
Youtube videos are much nicer than written guides. Just watch and follow along step-by-step seeing how everything is supposed to go.
I actually made a how to video for the nexus s 4g on a Mac. And did it the same way on my galaxy nexus. Only thing u would have to do different is make sure u type in the right clockwormod recovery image but here's the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m3ypr4J5Gc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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You couldn't really pick an easier phone to root, I would do a lot of reading before having at it though. I was able to find a guide fairly quickly by doing a google search. I would link it but apparently I'm still a noob myself.
root causes random reboots?
LOL
I found this method to be the easiest, at least for me.
I was in the same situation a couple weeks ago, didn't know a thing about rooting but now I'm flashing custom roms and testing kernels
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352413
good luck and have fun
Firstly, just use the device. Get used to Android before trying everything else. For all you know it might do exactly what you want it to without rooting.
If, after a week or 2 of using it, you want to explore rooting then read the rooting guides available online or in the Dev forum. Then give some ROMs a try! Better to find out for yourself which work for you than asking for a recommendation as what works for one user might be **** for another.
Also, learn how to use adb and fastboot as they'll come in handy in future (not enough people have any idea what to do). Try and do things manually as opposed to using one-click tools so you have the confidence to know what you're doing
Hello guys !
Im a newbie and i have a question. Which is more secure and stable ? A Custom Rom or Stock Rom ?
Which do you use an recommend, Stock or Custom Rom ? Its not a question about which Custom Rom ;-)
If there is already a similar Thread, i apologize...
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Hello guys !
Im a newbie and i have a question. Which is more secure and stable ? A Custom Rom or Stock Rom ?
Which do you use an recommend, Stock or Custom Rom ? Its not a question about which Custom Rom ;-)
If there is already a similar Thread, i apologize...
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The stock rom is probably what you want to stay on for stability. if you want really cool customization and tweaks go with a custom rom, but remember if you are on a custom rom you cant take OTA updates from google.
I know that, but I think also about, is it really possible, that maybe 10 people can make a better Rom? Google has many employees which working on this for long time. Sorry my english isnt perfect, I hope you understand what I mean.
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I know that, but I think also about, is it really possible, that maybe 10 people can make a better Rom? Google has many employees which working on this for long time. Sorry my english isnt perfect, I hope you understand what I mean.
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You have to remember that the majority of people probably dont want a phone which they can customise in any which way that they want. Google need to cater for the masses and create an OS that is at least relatively simple.
Individuals on forums such as these however, feel differently and love the chance for customization. The developers working on after market ROMS create those options and customizations for people that really want them. And their ROMS are based on the source code provided by Google and their many employees - so nothing is lost in that sense.
This is what I think any way!
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I know that, but I think also about, is it really possible, that maybe 10 people can make a better Rom? Google has many employees which working on this for long time. Sorry my english isnt perfect, I hope you understand what I mean.
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Are they all "better"? No. Do they offer more features/customization? Yes. Do these features/customization often break something that already works? Yes.
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I know that, but I think also about, is it really possible, that maybe 10 people can make a better Rom? Google has many employees which working on this for long time. Sorry my english isnt perfect, I hope you understand what I mean.
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Sometimes it's only one "dev" kanging code.
Regardless, we have some VERY talented devs here. And it's not like they are creating android from scratch, they are using the code that Google has open sourced, so all of the custom roms are essentially STOCK + unique features not part of AOSP. This also makes them not as stable as stock android, pick your poison
That was a good answer !
Thats where is my point, di
oes it really make sense...all time Full-Wipe...backup..flash gapps...then something doesnt work..
but on the other side it looks awesome ! Its just, what do they really change ? Is it stil safe for me as user ?
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I think custom roms can often be more stable because bugs are constantly found and fixed on a daily basis. A stock rom may have a bug but will take months for the next update from google.
Also custom roms are just stock roms with additions, so its the same code base anyway.
its mostly about the tweaks that Google didn't put in .. all roms are the same to me since they all base off 4.0.x unless someone builds a sense or Touchwiz rom.
The only thing that makes roms different is the feature list and kernel
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That was a good answer !
Thats where is my point, di
oes it really make sense...all time Full-Wipe...backup..flash gapps...then something doesnt work..
but on the other side it looks awesome ! Its just, what do they really change ? Is it stil safe for me as user ?
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It's all very easy once you do it a few times. Customization is awesome. Like the full screen mod getting rid of the softkeys so anything that your doing (game, videos, etc) that keeps the softkeys there, will now be full screen without the softkeys. Just little things like that plus much more than make custom roms better than stock.
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I think custom roms can often be more stable because bugs are constantly found and fixed on a daily basis. A stock rom may have a bug but will take months for the next update from google.
Also custom roms are just stock roms with additions, so its the same code base anyway.
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Bugs are constantly found for custom ROMs because they've not been tested so much compared to stock before they are being released. (Not saying that stock is bug free but each official version has gone through aggressive testing)
If stability and security are your top concerns then stay stock - this is a no-brainer. Custom ROMs are for people who are more adventurous and want to have more fun with their phones.
So there are more people on Stock or on Custom Roms ? I heard that many people say its a "developer phone", but on the other Hand people say they bought it because they dont want to flash anymore C-Roms.
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Many people want different things, that's why there are custom roms
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So there are more people on Stock or on Custom Roms ? I heard that many people say its a "developer phone", but on the other Hand people say they bought it because they dont want to flash anymore C-Roms.
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Of course there are way more people on stock than rom flashers. People like my mom got the phone to use it, not to flash ROMs.
When people said 'it's a developer phone', it doesn't mean the phone is not suitable for daily use or only developers know how to use it. On the contrary, it's a phone that showcases how the latest OS SHOULD look and feel like. It serves as a reference point to how developers should design their apps.
Good answer !
I read a lot of problems like massive battery drain or FCs etc. etc. also I read about speed improvements and great battery life. I can change already a lot of things with a different Launcher.
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Good answer !
I read a lot of problems like massive battery drain or FCs etc. etc. also I read about speed improvements and great battery life. I can change already a lot of things with a different Launcher.
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The thing with all product discussion forums is, people will only post/seeking help if they ran into problems. (Will you go to a Samsung forum and start a thread with 'my TV/camera is working as intended?' ) So these forums are always filled with error reports/complaints. Sometimes it's hard to see if it's really error by design or just the unlucky few with defective devices.
XDA makes it even more complicated because this is a modding community. Half of the complaints are probably just human errors - bad flash, wrong radio, incompatible apps the list goes on...
Long answer short, you DON'T have to mod your phone to reap all its benefits. You are not missing out things if you don't want to customize it.
I completly agree, thats why I also started this thread. I was talking with some people about it. Its nice to customize, but do i need these small things with the possibility to get issues
Are you on Stock ?
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Brother man its all about what you want and love. I could nit would not run stock. I have way more fun with custom roms. But to each there own. I must say, I would never have my mother run a custom from. First I would be her tech support, next its not what she needs. But you keep having fun with what you need / do.
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Bugs are constantly found for custom ROMs because they've not been tested so much compared to stock before they are being released. (Not saying that stock is bug free but each official version has gone through aggressive testing)
If stability and security are your top concerns then stay stock - this is a no-brainer. Custom ROMs are for people who are more adventurous and want to have more fun with their phones.
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I was actually talking about bugs in stock. Its much quicker to fix them in custom roms since the fix will be rolled out in a few days, but we'd be waiting months to get the same fix from google in an update.
Sure new bugs from custom roms may appear too from the new additions. But its still all the stock code base anyway...
ROMs are usually the result of tweaking, prodding, removal to enhance the phone's ability to function. Some things aren't necessary, and some things can be made to cater to a specific user. Obviously, google cannot cater to individual needs, but that's why so many ROMs exist, you can found out what you like and stick to it!
That's why I switched to android from my iPhone 4s. I love messing with my phone, and android is the platform that encourages this
My friend has a rooted note 2 and swears by tht damn thing so I jus rooted my t-mobile galaxy sIII T-999 v. 4.1.1. And the only thing I have found was Lmt I'm not sure what apps I should have or where to find them ....... feel absolutely noobish
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Well, if he likes his rooted phone so much, its probably because he installed a custom ROM. This changes your whole phones experience, usually for the better. It's a lot more complicated than just rooting your phone though, and I wouldn't recommend it before doing some research on the different types of ROMs, and how to make backups with custom recoveries.
If you just want to mess around with your stock rooted phone, then maybe start with these apps:
AdAway - Gets rid of most ads, including ads in apps. Really good stuff. Make sure to run the app after you download it, and hit "download files and apply" so that it starts working.
SetCPU - Lets you set your CPU's MIN+MAX Ghz so you can improve battery life, or improve performance.
Titanium Backup - This is more for if you start trying out custom ROMs, but its always nice to have a backup of all your apps anyways.
Hi everyone. I've been a lurker here for some time and I finally signed up. 1st off, I have to say that all you guys do an amazing job.
I used to have the Tmo gs4g and always managed to get all my questions answered just by searching enough.There was one thread that was particularly helpful to noobs. It was a basic walkthrough for your first root and rom flash. It even offered up a few kernals and ROMs that were good for your 1st flash.
Now I have the Tmo sgs3 and there just seems to be so much to sift through. I've been at this for the past 2 days straight and while I've learned quite a bit, I just don't feel like I'm confident enough to take the plunge. I've bricked a couple of the sgs4g.
I've managed to root my gs3, get CWM to stick by flashing it through ROM manager (still says I'm living in 1970 but I can live with that) and flashed the adrenaline injector.
I think I'm ok with the stock ROM. The only thing that really bothers me is waiting for the keyboard to popup when I want to type something. It probably takes about 5 seconds to come up but it feels like forever. I'd really like a kernal or a ROM that's close to stock that will improve battery life and give the CPU a kickstart, if that's possible.
Some of the ROMS look pretty cool (like Liquidsmooth and Darthstalker) and what they can do, I'm just a little worried I might get a little over my head with how complex they seem.
If any of this rambling makes sense to you, I'd appreciate it if someone could share the links of what I might be looking for.
nataku199 said:
Hi everyone. I've been a lurker here for some time and I finally signed up. 1st off, I have to say that all you guys do an amazing job.
I used to have the Tmo gs4g and always managed to get all my questions answered just by searching enough.There was one thread that was particularly helpful to noobs. It was a basic walkthrough for your first root and rom flash. It even offered up a few kernals and ROMs that were good for your 1st flash.
Now I have the Tmo sgs3 and there just seems to be so much to sift through. I've been at this for the past 2 days straight and while I've learned quite a bit, I just don't feel like I'm confident enough to take the plunge. I've bricked a couple of the sgs4g.
I've managed to root my gs3, get CWM to stick by flashing it through ROM manager (still says I'm living in 1970 but I can live with that) and flashed the adrenaline injector.
I think I'm ok with the stock ROM. The only thing that really bothers me is waiting for the keyboard to popup when I want to type something. It probably takes about 5 seconds to come up but it feels like forever. I'd really like a kernal or a ROM that's close to stock that will improve battery life and give the CPU a kickstart, if that's possible.
Some of the ROMS look pretty cool (like Liquidsmooth and Darthstalker) and what they can do, I'm just a little worried I might get a little over my head with how complex they seem.
If any of this rambling makes sense to you, I'd appreciate it if someone could share the links of what I might be looking for.
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The keyboard lag is probably due to all the stock bloat. I suggest buying TitaniumBackup. Not only to back up your app data, but it can (amongst other things) also disable the system apps that you can't disable through the built-in app manager. I love ROM Toolbox, but I've been noticing some problems with it lately. It's kind of a bug fest. Anyhow, use TiBu to freeze the garbage you don't want.
Make a nandroid with CWM, then:
Download Ashaman (debloater) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732039. It's easy to use (flash with recovery), and safe. There is another debloater in our section, but it's a bit over aggressive imo.
If you want to stay stock, that's fine, but I recommend a couple things, one is flashing a kernel, like this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291368. You want "Touchwiz JB (4.1.1 & 4.1.2) VERSIONS:" from post 2.
If you have other specific questions, you can get me on Hangouts with the same name.
I did use titanium backup to get rid of some of the apps I knew I didn't need but I'll check out Ashaman (debloater) and see what else I can get rid of. Thanx for that.
Hey man i came from the GS4G too! I felt the same way and asking questions and plenty of reading is what led me to where i am today. If you're interested you should flash a custom rom+kernel. With a custom kernel, you can adjust how you want your CPU and other stuff to perform. And with custom rom, you'll get the best out of your phone, in my opinion. I'm running LiquidSmooth right now and I'm waiting for the Illusion update. If you need any help, feel free to ask, there are plenty of people here to help. If you like stock tw, you should try flashing a tw rom such as wicked, darthstalker, imfamous or any other 4.1.1-4.1.2 roms. If you like a pure google experience, flash a AOSP rom like LS, Cyanogenmod, or another 4.2.2 rom. It's up to you honestly but if you want to take the dive, always read the OP and ask questions if you're confused! Best of luck!
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TheKucho said:
Hey man i came from the GS4G too! I felt the same way and asking questions and plenty of reading is what led me to where i am today. If you're interested you should flash a custom rom+kernel. With a custom kernel, you can adjust how you want your CPU and other stuff to perform. And with custom rom, you'll get the best out of your phone, in my opinion. I'm running LiquidSmooth right now and I'm waiting for the Illusion update. If you need any help, feel free to ask, there are plenty of people here to help. If you like stock tw, you should try flashing a tw rom such as wicked, darthstalker, imfamous or any other 4.1.1-4.1.2 roms. If you like a pure google experience, flash a AOSP rom like LS, Cyanogenmod, or another 4.2.2 rom. It's up to you honestly but if you want to take the dive, always read the OP and ask questions if you're confused! Best of luck!
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So if I decided to go with the darthstalker rom or liquid smooth, how do I know which kernal would b best for me? Trial and error? I've been reading up on them but I'm not always sure about what's compatible with what.
nataku199 said:
So if I decided to go with the darthstalker rom or liquid smooth, how do I know which kernal would b best for me? Trial and error? I've been reading up on them but I'm not always sure about what's compatible with what.
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Most people seem to like ktoons kernal.
The two roms you've mentioned are very good ones but also very different.
Just know with liquidsmooth or any AOSP rom, your files in your internal sd card will get sent to a /0 folder and you won't have touchwiz features smart stay, camera, palm screenshot, nor wifi calling etc.
If you flash this it's fine(I've used LS, loved it) but just know if you don't like it, I recommend to Odin. Going from 4.2.2 to 4.1.2 through recovery has always given me fc's and reboots. I'm speaking from my personal experience, others may tell you different which is fine.
I'm just giving you a heads up before you flash liquidsmooth and think it wiped your internal storage, ask where's wifi calling, etc.
I wouldn't mess with kernels if everything is working fine.
Stockorama, Wicked, Liquidsmooth, Illusions, etc. All fantastic roms. Read OP's and replies just to make sure you know exactly what to expect.
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Before messing with kernels, I'd start by getting used to some of the custom roms first. Try a few out for a few days each and choose the one you like best.
As stated, Darthstalker and Liquid Smooth are both popular choices around here. There's also the tried-and-true CM 10.1, if you feel more comfortable with it.
Personally, I'm using CarbonRom nightlies and its been pretty stable for the SGH-T999 d2tmo (T-Mobile SGS3).
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IXChicharitoXI said:
Just know with liquidsmooth or any AOSP rom, your files in your internal sd card will get sent to a /0 folder and you won't have touchwiz features smart stay, camera, palm screenshot, nor wifi calling etc.
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So wifi calling doesn't work with any AOSP roms or just liquidsmooth? I'll read up on any rom I choose but I use wifi calling a lot and if that's the case then this just saved me a ton of reading. We've been having reception problems at our house so I've been forced to used wifi calling while at home. Tmobile claims it's my phone (they're sending me a new one this week even though I told them it's not the phone and that I really didn't want a new one) even though 3 out of the 4 phones in the household suddenly have lousy reception.
Since I'm getting a new phone this week, that brings me to my next question-restoring. Since you guys are constantly wiping your phones, what's the fastest way to restore it? I mean, restoring all the little settings like ringtones, homepages, etc... Let's say I flash a rom. Now Titanium Backup should take care of my apps but what about all the settings? Can I just go into CWM's advanced recovery and hit recover data? Is there anything else under advanced recovery I would want to hit?
Wifi calling is in touchwiz based roms only.
If you had several phones all of a sudden suffer signal problems, it will most likely be a network issue. Or they may be upgrading your area. Give it a few days to a week to see if it improves.
TiB can back up your settings too. Or you can just restore a nandroid backup and be done with it. Never heard of data recover options in recovery. Nandroid is the option you probably want.
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nataku199 said:
So wifi calling doesn't work with any AOSP roms or just liquidsmooth? I'll read up on any rom I choose but I use wifi calling a lot and if that's the case then this just saved me a ton of reading. We've been having reception problems at our house so I've been forced to used wifi calling while at home. Tmobile claims it's my phone (they're sending me a new one this week even though I told them it's not the phone and that I really didn't want a new one) even though 3 out of the 4 phones in the household suddenly have lousy reception.
Since I'm getting a new phone this week, that brings me to my next question-restoring. Since you guys are constantly wiping your phones, what's the fastest way to restore it? I mean, restoring all the little settings like ringtones, homepages, etc... Let's say I flash a rom. Now Titanium Backup should take care of my apps but what about all the settings? Can I just go into CWM's advanced recovery and hit recover data? Is there anything else under advanced recovery I would want to hit?
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If you need wifi calling, stay away from AOSP roms then. There's plenty of great touchwiz roms to try though so don't worry.
I use nova launcher so I make a back up of my home screens through nova.
I restore everything the way it was before after I finish restoring apps/data from titanium backup.
I only use nandroids(cwm backups) if something is broken. Otherwise I don't touch it.
Titanium restores your apps and data with apps if you choose so. I always restore game data, alarm settings, notes I've written, etc.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Wifi calling is in touchwiz based roms only.
If you had several phones all of a sudden suffer signal problems, it will most likely be a network issue. Or they may be upgrading your area. Give it a few days to a week to see if it improves.
TiB can back up your settings too. Or you can just restore a nandroid backup and be done with it. Never heard of data recover options in recovery. Nandroid is the option you probably want.
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Go into CWM, hit recovery, advanced recovery, hit which ever backup you want then it brings you to a screen that says restore boot, restore system, restore data, restore cache, restore sd-ext. I'm assuming you can use that if you only want to restore certain things.
Correct
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Well after much consideration and research I decided to start out with Wicked rom. It was a tough decision between Wicked and Darth Stalker but Wicked seemed like it might be a little more noob friendly (not to mention it has some really cool themes).
This is really exciting for me. I really get off on this kind of stuff. My gf always thought it was weird that I'd get excited every time an update was released. :victory:
Anyway, Thanx to everyone for their patience and help.
nataku199 said:
My gf always thought it was weird that I'd get excited every time an update was released.
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Lol, well, you're not alone, and I think you came to the right place! Good luck and have fun!
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nataku199 said:
Well after much consideration and research I decided to start out with Wicked rom. It was a tough decision between Wicked and Darth Stalker but Wicked seemed like it might be a little more noob friendly (not to mention it has some really cool themes).
This is really exciting for me. I really get off on this kind of stuff. My gf always thought it was weird that I'd get excited every time an update was released. :victory:
Anyway, Thanx to everyone for their patience and help.
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Great choice. Wicked v9 was my first rom I ever flashed, got to the rooting scene two or three months ago.
It's a brilliant rom and so much better than stock.
Enjoy!
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