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[Q] Do I need to update to 3.70?

So my evo currently has software version 3.29 and this past weekend I rooted it with unrevoked3. I noticed that there is an update available (3.70), is there any reason for me to update this? I tried updating but while it was updating it crashed (I think because of the unrevoked).
And another question. I want to run new themes, etc. I used titanium back up to back up my apps and used Rom Manager to back up my system settings. Was it necessary for me to use 2 different programs to back up my phone and is there anyway to test to see if everything on my phone is backed up?
Thanks.

Ok 1. Never accept an OTA --over the air update after your rooted. It'll kill your root.
Do what i did pick a ROM from here thats based on 3.70. You'll have a new rom + all the updates.
2. No you didnt need 2 backups. Titanium has a batch button that says "Backup sytem data and user apps" thats the ONLY one you need!!!
Hey dont take it from me tho....always nand & try things for yourself!!!!

Phillysphinest1 said:
Ok 1. Never accept an OTA --over the air update after your rooted. It'll kill your root.
Do what i did pick a ROM from here thats based on 3.70. You'll have a new rom + all the updates.
2. No you didnt need 2 backups. Titanium has a batch button that says "Backup sytem data and user apps" thats the ONLY one you need!!!
Hey dont take it from me tho....always nand & try things for yourself!!!!
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I did try to OTA install but in the middle of installing the OTA program showed an error and stopped. My root is still there though.
Could you please direct me to where I can find 3.70 roms and what I need to launch them with?
I backed up using both programs any harm in this besides taking up more space on my microsd?
Thanks again.

evosq said:
I did try to OTA install but in the middle of installing the OTA program showed an error and stopped. My root is still there though.
Could you please direct me to where I can find 3.70 roms and what I need to launch them with?
I backed up using both programs any harm in this besides taking up more space on my microsd?
Thanks again.
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use mikfroyo or avalaunch or myns, all three great sense roms that are constantly updated, z3 is zippiest as of now

Go here for all the latest ROMs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/ROMs

[Q] Cannot update to 15R from 15Q...and more

I cannot get my N7 to accept the 15R update. I have tried OTA, have also tried flashing the zip and sideloading the zip through ADB..always get an error that looks to be a mismatch of the hash. So ultimately I will end up wiping and re-installing...but my question is more than just that. My N7 is rooted with NRT but with no other modifications. The only reason I rooted was so that I could use Titanium backup. I hear people constantly concerned that they will lose root after an OTA update. I don't understand this because re-rooting is so easy and takes only a couple of minutes. I am much more concerned with not being able to update and having to wipe the device. This requires lots more time and effort...even getting my wireless password into the device (63 digits) takes longer than re-rooting. I have to temporarily change the password on my router to something that I can type in, then change it back after cutting and pasting in my real password, which is too long and complicated to type.
What am I missing and also, is there anything else I can do to get 15R into the device? (I have SuperSU 1.65 already.)
Thanks for helping a newbie.

Something changed after you rooted. It may not have been explicitly something you changed. It could have been one of the root apps you started using. For example stickmount will often result in the hash for debuggerd to fail.
If you post the exact error someone can probably guess what you installed that caused the hash failure. I assure you it only happens if a file was modified or deleted (unless you are one of the unfortunate with suspect eMMC memory that is corrupting on its own)
The quickest way to get JSS15R is to just use this post in JSS15R discussion thread. Use the nowipe factory option and it will preserve your data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45671279#post45671279

sfhub said:
Something changed after you rooted. It may not have been explicitly something you changed. It could have been one of the root apps you started using. For example stickmount will often result in the hash for debuggerd to fail.
If you post the exact error someone can probably guess what you installed that caused the hash failure. I assure you it only happens if a file was modified or deleted (unless you are one of the unfortunate with suspect eMMC memory that is corrupting on its own)
The quickest way to get JSS15R is to just use this post in JSS15R discussion thread. Use the nowipe factory option and it will preserve your data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45671279#post45671279
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Thanks for the response...I will get into that thread suggested. For the future, if an app screws things up, will uninstalling it fix things or not? You mentioned Stickmount, which I have installed. I went ahead and uninstalled it, but results are the same.
When trying to flash the 15R zip, I get:
skipping MD5 check
no MD5 file found
assert failed-apply patch check [zip name]
error executing updater binary
error installing zip
this is all while booted temporarily into TWRP....I have stock recovery on the unit.
Could freezing useless apps (some system like Google Books and useless keyboards) with Titanium Backup cause the update to fail? I tried unfreezing everything that I had done...still no luck. I'm just trying to get a feel for what to do and not do in the future...
Thanks much!!

OK...followed your thread ...read everything and since I saw an error about debuggered somewhere on my N7, I used your debuggered update, flashed it with TWRP and then was successful in flashing the 15R update.zip. So it must have been as you said...Stickmount was the problem and it messed up the debuggered file. I'm still wondering if freezing apps with Titanium backup will mess up an update or if I did not need to defrost everything before trying to flash the zip???
Thanks so much for the help...another success story and noob learning more and more about what the heck is going on in Android.

CCT1 said:
I'm still wondering if freezing apps with Titanium backup will mess up an update or if I did not need to defrost everything before trying to flash the zip???
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It has nothing to do with freezing apps. Freezing apps won't have any negative effects on your ability to use an OTA successfully.
Stickmount backs up debuggerd, makes some changes to it, then restores the backup, but sometimes it gets out of sync. When it gets out of sync, your original debuggerd is lost even though there is a backup file because the backup is of the wrong file.
Uninstalling stickmount wouldn't have fixed this issue because it already made the modification to debuggerd.
Keep in mind, normally it isn't root that causes the OTA to fail. It is the use of those capabilities root gave you, to modify or remove files, either directly or indirectly through a 3rd-party app that causes the OTA to fail.

Gotcha...thanks for the help...your debuggerd script fixed everything...I've put it away for possible future use. Titanium Backup and Stickmount are the only apps I have that require root...I will keep this in mind. To a lesser but similar extent than in Windows, I like to keep a system lean and mean....I think Android can benefit from this also.

Remove bloatware and ota update

I've just rooted my device (bootloader still locked) and now I'm wondering if I remove apps I don't use, will an ota update still work? I remember I had problems in the past with it (Asus transformer). After I removed some standard apps, the update function didn't work anymore. I know I can freeze apps with titanium backup but I prefer to remove them.

No one..? I'm talking about apps like Google+,hangouts, etc.

Boes40 said:
No one..? I'm talking about apps like Google+,hangouts, etc.
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Never tried it honestly... But I think it should work... I already tried extracting an ota update of Sony before and theres nothing there about checking firmware contents. Regardless though I suggest you create a backup first.

Thanks for your reply. I've got a backup so I just go ahead and see if it's works.

AT&T Update Help

I received the notification to update this morning to 4.4, however the update started to apply, it kicked it out with a suspected root error. Before applying the update, I had already uninstalled Xposed and unrooted my phone, so I am not sure what set off the root checker. I was wondering what my options were at this point. I know I can flash back to stock, but I would like to avoid this if at all possible. Are there any alternatives, or will I be forced to flash back to stock?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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marksman81 said:
I received the notification to update this morning to 4.4, however the update started to apply, it kicked it out with a suspected root error. Before applying the update, I had already uninstalled Xposed and unrooted my phone, so I am not sure what set off the root checker. I was wondering what my options were at this point. I know I can flash back to stock, but I would like to avoid this if at all possible. Are there any alternatives, or will I be forced to flash back to stock?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I'm having exactly the same issue. I used the one click root method and have unrooted using full unroot in SuperSu.
But it appears full unroot per SuperSu is not enough? I tried root checker in Play Store and it says I am not rooted.
When I run the install it takes a long time to download and gave 0x13e error after the reboot while upgrading.
I also tried the LG PC Suite but it says my phone has the most current version, that is weird...
This OTA seems to be very picky as I was able to update in January 2014 fully rooted....
I wonder if I need to flash the IOT and go through the hassle of reinstalling all apps and config....that's a lot of hassle...

View92612 said:
I'm having exactly the same issue. I used the one click root method and have unrooted using full unroot in SuperSu.
But it appears full unroot per SuperSu is not enough? I tried root checker in Play Store and it says I am not rooted.
When I run the install it takes a long time to download and gave 0x13e error after the reboot while upgrading.
I also tried the LG PC Suite but it says my phone has the most current version, that is weird...
This OTA seems to be very picky as I was able to update in January 2014 fully rooted....
I wonder if I need to flash the IOT and go through the hassle of reinstalling all apps and config....that's a lot of hassle...
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It is very strange but if I try update recovery it says my battery does not have enough charge. (but battery is at 100%).
I even bought a new battery. I did disable carrier iq spying service before I unroot.
Do I have to enable carrier iq spy in order to upgrade?

View92612 said:
It is very strange but if I try update recovery it says my battery does not have enough charge. (but battery is at 100%).
I even bought a new battery. I did disable carrier iq spying service before I unroot.
Do I have to enable carrier iq spy in order to upgrade?
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Your phone needs to be 100% stock in order for OTA updates to work. This means:
no custom recovery (CWM, TWRP, etc)
all bloatware must be present
you can't be rooted
all system services must be like stock (this includes carrier IQ, so yes, it needs to be reenabled).
If you can't get the OTA to update after fixing everything, try flashing this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760895
This IS the ATT stock ROM, but mildly debloated. The creator only debloated things that could be installed via the Play Store though (like Google Music, Newstand, Books, etc), so there isn't anything like the remote app or something missing.
I flashed this version because I'm too lazy to try and return my phone to pure stock just to get the OTA and then have to reflash root and a custom recovery. Too much work for me.
EDIT: I'm not too sure what's going on with your recovery... I hope someone else can answer that for you.

The easiest thing to do is just flash the 4.4.2 Rom found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760895
This route saves allot of time having to flash back to pure stock, wait for your phone to receive the update again, and your phone taking forever to download said update.

spexwood said:
If you can't get the OTA to update after fixing everything, try flashing this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760895
This IS the ATT stock ROM, but mildly debloated. The creator only debloated things that could be installed via the Play Store though (like Google Music, Newstand, Books, etc), so there isn't anything like the remote app or something missing.
I flashed this version because I'm too lazy to try and return my phone to pure stock just to get the OTA and then have to reflash root and a custom recovery. Too much work for me.
EDIT: I'm not too sure what's going on with your recovery... I hope someone else can answer that for you.
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Thanks a lot. This is my wife's phone so she'd rather not to update if a data wipe is required. She's actually quite happy with 4.1.
Anything extra would only be a "good to have". I think I'll keep it on 4.1 until she switches to another phone.
I did download the slightly customized stock rom so that it could be updated in the future.
In fact, I still have stock recovery and the only reason I rooted was to disable carrier iq because it was doing funny things with the GPS, very annoying.
There is no other way to disable carrier iq without rooting...unfortunately...

View92612 said:
Thanks a lot. This is my wife's phone so she'd rather not to update if a data wipe is required. She's actually quite happy with 4.1.
Anything extra would only be a "good to have". I think I'll keep it on 4.1 until she switches to another phone.
I did download the slightly customized stock rom so that it could be updated in the future.
In fact, I still have stock recovery and the only reason I rooted was to disable carrier iq because it was doing funny things with the GPS, very annoying.
There is no other way to disable carrier iq without rooting...unfortunately...
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If you flash that ROM over her current stock ROM, it should act just like an OTA update and replace the JB OS with the KK OS. It should also replace JB version Google apps with KK ones too.
If you decide to do this, you will need to do 3 things:
1) Make a backup just in case, but then copy the backup to your PC
2) Backup the internal SD to a PC and then format the internal storage. (see *2 below as to why)
3) After the flash, you will need to install the apk from the following thread and use it to install a Kitkat compatible CWM. If you don't while in recovery at any time, you may get stuck in what's called the Recovery Bootloop. Basically, every time you try to reboot the phone into the system (whether from a powered off state or from recovery), you will always go back to recovery.
The only bad thing about this recovery is that it can't read external SD cards, so anything you want to flash/backup will need to be stored on internal storage.
*2) Kitkat uses a different directory system for internal storage. If you were to not wipe the internal SD and managed to get the OTA working, it would wipe the drive for you automatically (which means all your data would be gone!).
However, with this flashable stock ROM, what will happen instead, is that all your data will remain, but will be hidden from view/access. If you have root, you can get it and move it, but it's a pain. Otherwise, your files are hidden from you, yet the system reads X amount of your internal storage as being occupied by "Miscellaneous" files, yet shows that nothing is there.
So just backup the files, then format the internal storage (which will leave her apps alone) before updating. Then flash that ROM and then copy the files back over.
All this is up to you and your wife as to whether or not you deem it to be worth the effort.

New update?

Is anyone else getting prompted for a system update? I'm rooted so I don't want to install. Update is 154.6 MB.
UPDATE: DO NOT install the update if you don't have stock recovery. You will end up in a boot loop.
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Lol I just created a thread myself! I am rooted and custom rom so I am totally waiting.

i just got it too, it said android update but I'm not entirely sure what it's for

InsaneJester17 said:
Is anyone else getting prompted for a system update? I'm rooted so I don't want to install. Update is 154.6 MB.
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I also did, I am on sky rom and it probably won't work, but I don't want to try to install it.

Well its quite a small update at 154 mb

Installed update
Hey guys I just installed the update and it broke my root :cyclops:

Were you able to root again?

Apparently it's D85110m update. So it's updating from D85110c to m. The person that I saw that updated hadn't rooted so no clue on the rooting thing.

Count me in the group with system update notification. I got rid of it by installing xposed module GravityBox, going under status bar settings - ongoing notification blocker - Google Play services (picture looks like that of update) - reboot.
I don't know what other notifications this may block, but for now, it gets rid of that. Also of note, I would NOT take the OTA. Usually it breaks root and/or bootloops you.

HELP
So in my half awake brilliance, I installed the update. My phone is now boot cycling to the TWRP recovery. Any ideas?

zcgofaster said:
Were you able to root again?
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I haven't tried to re-root yet. I was rooted with stump root earlier. Stump root doesn't work again because it thinks that my phone is already rooted. I'm going to do some light battery tests before trying to root again, this time with purple drake.

Maybe i might restore the slimkat alpha and hide there until this gets sorted out

I decided not to update to fear my bootloader/root so I tried to extract this with file manager and kept crashing. I can only post the name of the file but above users are correct contains 10m from 10c hopefully devs can find out exactly what's in the update. b1847cae892006ffa11c6822a408fe8528142a54.D85110c_00-D85110m_00_update.zip

thiefinthenight said:
So in my half awake brilliance, I installed the update. My phone is now boot cycling to the TWRP recovery. Any ideas?
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I would try and follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2818667

Wonder if i could do a restore and keep wifi off so it won't download

hawkstwelve said:
I would try and follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2818667
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Will this reset the phone? Will I lose all data?

thiefinthenight said:
Will this reset the phone? Will I lose all data?
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I believe so yes. But if you are truly bootlooping, I don't believe you have many (if any) other choices than wiping clean and starting fresh.

I'm all stock so I upgraded.
It is in fact D85110m
I've only had it up and running for a few minutes and I already noticed two things.
- There is a slider feature added to the lock screen to instantly open the camera.
- I didn't think the phone was sluggish or laggy out of the box but I immediately could tell it runs smoother now with transitions between screens/apps. e.g. There used to be a bit of lag when opening the Recent Apps. Not anymore.
We'll see how it goes.

The IR blaster works better for me now. I guess the update made it more powerful somehow.

if you have twrp installed or have modified /system you should not take this OTA. if on twrp things will get weird(as evidenced above..) and if removing/modding any default files in /system the zip will most likely fail.. as it checks for all original files first before the OTA update gets patched in.
as for the twrp issue.. I can only assume that it's due to the update/phone expecting stock recovery... and not getting it. there are flags set in the phone that tell the phone what mode to boot into... since you dont have stock recovery the phone is confused. check out this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2451696
the fota and misc partitions are tied to this... try to zero out fota first. if that alone doesnt let you out of twrp... you may need to wipe misc. be sure to backup any partition to computer(dont just save on phone sdcard.. never know when it could get wiped..) before erasing anything.
as for this update(10m)... anyone taking it should be careful that the bootloader/downgrades have not been locked/blocked. I'll be waiting for others to take that risk first before even considering taking the ota.
*update* can confirm update is safe.. bootloader is not locked.. still rootable.
as for root... I doubt purple drake is blocked.. but is possible. I'm very sure Stump is still available as an option(tho app may need update).
if you got the update and dont want to take it.. and want the notification gone you should be able to use a file explorer to delete the update zip from the the /cache directory... as well as rename the LGFOTA.apk file in /system to LGFOTA.apk.bak.
I can also confirm that disabling OTA updates in the hidden menu works. the moment I set it back to "on" (i set mine to off day 1) and rebooted the update came in.
d851 hidden menu > wlan test > ota setting > off > reboot (if you have been notified of an available update do NOT reboot until you have deleted the ota zip first)