Let's say I was running a Sense Rom...
and I did a Titanium backup where I would back up all apps and system data...
And let's say I'm like, screw it, the Sense Rom is too slow, and I flashed a CM7 ROM.
And then let's say I restored everything via Titanium back up, including all the system data.
Would the system data from my sense ROM be compatible with the CM7 ROM?
No. Never restore system data period. And don't restore system apps that are sense onto a non-sense rom(different fframework)
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How do I know which ones are system apps and which ones is system data? How do I restore normal App data without restoring system data? Is there a batch function for backing up app + app data without backing up system app + system data?
convolution said:
How do I know which ones are system apps and which ones is system data? How do I restore normal App data without restoring system data? Is there a batch function for backing up app + app data without backing up system app + system data?
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"Restore missing apps with data" and "restore all apps with data" are the two batch jobs that resore just the apps and the data belonging to the app (ie. saved games).
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Stay away from any options that say "system," and if possible, like in the case of apps that are simple to reinstall, I'd suggest doing so from the Market (or where ever you download from). Occasionally an app+data will not work properly after a TiBa restore. I've never had an issues restoring games (apps) with scores (data), but to reduce the risk of problems I always cleanly reinstall those apps that don't take too much time.
This is just my opinion, of course.
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Ok when I flash a new ROM and want to do so with a clean slate/wipe, I have titanium backup to back up all my apps, but I'm still kinda unsure of the full procedure as obvious as it may seem... When I did my first wipe, I had to go back and redo all of my information for everything on the phone. Is this typical? What I mean by that is I had to input all my google account info, set up my home screens, set up my facebook app...and turn off all of my sync's...
if you don't wipe, do you have to do all of that? Does a titanium backup on apps/system data allow you to not have to do this?
is this the proper step by step:
1.Titanium backup - apps/system data
2. Rom manager -download rom w/ wipe and back up
3. load rom
4. titanium restore - apps/system data?
Just apps or apps+user data. System data varies from ROM to ROM. Plus, you have no need of multiple copies of system data.
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when i flashed to virtuous and did a wipe, i did a backup before of just apps and when i restored apps+user data, it really didn't do anything. I still had to change all the configurations for everything to not sync and to put in username/password...
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Just apps or apps+user data. System data varies from ROM to ROM. Plus, you have no need of multiple copies of system data.
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was shaky on this as well....what is the difference between user and system data? Just would be a pain to lose all layouts and wifi passwords.
I've been doing apps+system data each time and havn't really had any major problems to speak of
my titanium backup doesnt have an option to back up apps+user data... just apps and apps+system data
My bad on an unclear response.. When restoring from TB, it's apps+ user data. You do not want to restore system apps from a different rom. In the scheduling section of TB, There are different configurations you can choose.
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any way to keep home screens and such in place?
Should be the restore desktop htc sense in TB/Restore missing apps+ all system data. That's the only 1 you should pull from there for this.
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I just did a restore myself with user apps+data and it had me click 'install' for every app, pain in the ass, anyway to click and go?
Thanks
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SR3TLAW said:
I just did a restore myself with user apps+data and it had me click 'install' for every app, pain in the ass, anyway to click and go?
Thanks
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Get the paid version.
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I have a quesition about TB Pro. Today I flashed the CM6 ROM onto my DINC. When I reinstalled the TB Pro app onto the phone from my appmonster folder on the SD Card and opened it up to restore my apps in batch mode, TB Pro would FC whether I was trying to restore apps only, apps+data or even individual apps (not batch mode). Am I doing something wrong, am I misunderstanding how TB Pro is supposed to function, is there an incompatibility?
Try the problems button in titanium and clear its data in the application menu.
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I am having some weird issues with the nightly CM7 builds and wanted to do a wipe, start fresh. I have all my apps installed to SD. If I do a wipe of just the phone memory, and I re-flash CM7 will I still have my app data safe on the SD card and would be retrievable after I flash? I'm not really that concerned with anything except contacts data and of course that will be safely on Google, but was just curious.
If you wipe you'll lose app data even on sd. Part of the wiping process includes the android-secure secure folder which is where the app data us stored. You're best bet is to use Titanium to backup you're apps.
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Titanium Backup helps backup app data as well, so it should be fine!
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Titanium Backup helps backup app data as well, so it should be fine!
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Yep, this is what I use. The paid version (which I bought) offers batch restore, so just hit the button to restore your apps when you flash your new ROM, and let it go for a few minutes, and everything will be back the way you left it.
Whenever I install a new rom, can restoring the saved data from apps bring along bugs and problems from the previous rom? The TB site says that is not the case, but would like to hear the opinion of other people. I almost always restore the data, is it better to restore just the apps once in awhile?
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It depends on the rom. Usually it says on the rom info if it is ok to restore. If it dosent say then usually its ok to restore data. Also if your just upgrading the rom to a newer version restoring data usually doesnt wreck the rom. But you should do a full wipe before flashing a new rom
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I have never seen a rom say anything about titanium backup. I see them talk about maybe a nand data restore, but I'm pretty sure that is different than a titanium backup app+data restore. A nand data backup/restore just backs up and restores the entire data partition. A tb backup only backs up the data that is attached to each installed app.
Just to make sure I'm clear to everyone I'm talking only about APP data. I know you can backup and restore system data with tb but I'm not interested in messing with that. It takes 5 min to configure system settings.
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Restoring App data can cause issues, and if you want to be safe just do a nandroid backup before restoring all of the apps+data just to be sure. You should have no problems though.
The big thing to avoid is restoring system data. This restores things like settings etc. and is very dangerous unless you're re-flashing the same exact type of ROM as your Titanium Backup (i.e. fresh install of CM7 after being on CM7 prior).
Titanium Backup never wreked my instalation of new roms.
is there any backup app that doesn't make it FC?
mybackup pro, titainium backup, rom manager all give me FC's when restoring data, app are ok it just the data, when i put a new rom on i always wipe, davlik and battery but i alway get FC after restoring data, is there a way to get around this?
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is there any backup app that doesn't make it FC?
mybackup pro, titainium backup, rom manager all give me FC's when restoring data, app are ok it just the data, when i put a new rom on i always wipe, davlik and battery but i alway get FC after restoring data, is there a way to get around this?
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It depends what you mean by 'data'. If you're talking about system data then there's no app in the world that'll stop the problems caused by taking data from one system and sticking it into another. Just don't do it, because it's never going to work.
If you mean application data, then it's most probably an issue with an individual app. For example, data restored to games never caused me any issues, but if I ever restore data to SwiftKey when moving between ROMs I get FCs all over the place. Safest way is to only restore data to apps which had something saved locally (on the data partition), like games. Anything that stores on your SD card or in the cloud it's pointless restoring because it's either already there or you only have to log in to get it.
Or, if you've got the time/patience, restore each app individually with its data to see which one's causing a problem.
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is there any backup app that doesn't make it FC?
mybackup pro, titainium backup, rom manager all give me FC's when restoring data, app are ok it just the data, when i put a new rom on i always wipe, davlik and battery but i alway get FC after restoring data, is there a way to get around this?
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You should only restore certain system data, like mail, if you are flashing the same base. For apps that are part of the framework, I would recommend not doing any restore at all. If you are flashing to a rom with a different base, you should only restore user apps and data.
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I heard that titanium backup should not be used when changing to a new ROM.
Is it true? If so, why?
Another question, if I don't use titanium backup to backup everything but just a few user data(like the save of games), and I don't backup the app, just simply the user data, is it okay then?
It doesn't matter if you are changing roms or whatever it just backs up apk files and data folder so it will work on every rom without any problems.
It's better to take the 'app' from playstore after flashing a new Rom..sometimes titanium can get stuck at 'Restoring app data'..happened with me with twice..
Where did you read it shouldnt be used?
I regularly backup all user and system data.
When you go to a new ROM though, its quite fine to restore ALL user apps+data
But when it comes to system apps, I always go through them individually and restore what necessary - some system apps/data may conflict with the new ROM system apps/data.
This is my experience...could be bull**** lol
Alright, thx all of you
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The best way is restore apps without data, reboot then restore data. I've been doing it that way since my x10 running donut...
If changing to another rom only restore user data/apps. Don't restore system apps data as it may cause probs.
I use titanium backup on my arc and n7 tablet have the same apps etc and always send titanium data between the 2 devices with out any issues.
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