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Ehi guys!
I hope to write in a good english, because i'm italian.
I have an Xperia Arc and i'm not so Happy about it.
I'm going to explain why :
Before receiving this Arc, I had a htc hd2.
I was pretty happy, I had no problems whatsoever.
But now, with this Arc'm having a relationship not too happy because it is slow!
I installed several rom, The Arconium ics V5, V8 the ginger, the SEMC and other.
But I always have the same problem, as I listen to music, the phone slows down significantly, and if I try to run 3 apps simultaneously as WhatsApp, Music, Browser, the phone lags and becomes UNUSABLE.
If I get a call it, the screen remains black and I can not answer.
Well, maybe it's a ram problem?
Becomes really impossible to use, slow and I have to restart the phone.
also with the supercharger, is not good.
the phone has no hardware problems, so do not know what to think ..
If any of you could give me his opinion, I would be happy.
Thanks, I hope I was understandable.
What can I say, apparently HTC's programmers are far better than SONY's. I have my Arc S and I'm not fully happy with it either.
Ive never had a problem like that.
Are you using the latest software provided by sony ?
Tried overclock ?
From my sexy LT15i
Try V6 Supercharger
Sell it and buy another phone
Mine runs ok, not good but ok, looking forward to S III
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then try something which is not stock
i was on CM7 the experience was quite good
now on ICS beta.. waiting CM9
i'm an arc user, installed the latest fw (4.0.2.a.0.62).
everything is stock. got around 130mb free ram on idle.
i have no problem doing wifi+music+facebook/download or 3g+music+browser(m.facebook). and i do this everyday.
I'm with Squalldua on this. I'm also an Arc user with stock rom / all bloatware remove / more or less changed some initial system apps to what I like and I get great speed and memory usage. I haven't seen lag or slowdown from opening and switching application.
There has to be other underlying issues with what some of your are experiencing. I can listen to music, browse online, facebook opened and gmail and it's running smooth and the music doesn't skip.
The question is what aren't you telling us? Worst case, SELL IT get a new one.
How much apps do you have?
I have ~100 apps and a lot of stuff running, updating and syncing
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I had galaxy s before Arc, I liked the Arc more but I miss the super amoled screen.
try oc'ing and supercharging with CM7.2
squalldua said:
i'm an arc user, installed the latest fw (4.0.2.a.0.62).
everything is stock. got around 130mb free ram on idle.
i have no problem doing wifi+music+facebook/download or 3g+music+browser(m.facebook). and i do this everyday.
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Im 185mb on idle
From my sexy LT15i
hello,
I left the X10 community few days ago & am currently settling here.
I just bought my new ARC S yesterday.and playing with it till now.its very sexy & cool.loving it so far.But i am a bit curious about the ICS update which was released for ARC S .Android version 4.0.4.
I would like to update to ICS.but am really afraid if something goes wrong.I just want some genuine opinion from people who have used ICS 4.0.4 on ARC S.
Is there any issues after the update?
I hear some networking issues ppl facing after update, is it true & also for ARC S ?
how is the performing speed & smoothness of the UI ?
any Issues relating to ICS update to 4.0.4 is welcome.
I am not referring to 4.0.3.
Thank U ... U R feedback's will be most helpful to me.....
First of all Welcome to the sexy Arc s world
Secondly, Wrong section...This is general section..questions goes in Q&A Section
Well 4.0.4 is really good...compared to buggy laggy 4.0.3..
It doesnt have any network issues if u flash right baseband
My advice to get smooth and lagfree performance is to root your phone..then remove all crappy bloatware..then supercharge your phone..
for best performance use custom kernel..and to flash custom kernel you need to unlock the bootloader..
How about you read the ICS discussion? It's a sticky right on this very thread!
I know you asked for the 4.0.4 part but you'll find it in that thread.
Give the whole thing a read. It's worth it. It should give you all what you asked plus a little extra.
Swyped from my SE Xperia arc (LT15i) using Tapatalk 2
4.0.4 is a lot better in comparison to the earlier release of 4.0.3
Better WiFi, improved battery backup, less lag. But it still contains the LED bug and the Dialpad lag.
The best thing that you could do is what Xtacy! suggested already. Read the ICS discussion thread. It should help a lot.
And BTW, wrong section
auni said:
4.0.4 is a lot better in comparison to the earlier release of 4.0.3
Better WiFi, improved battery backup, less lag. But it still contains the LED bug and the Dialpad lag.
The best thing that you could do is what Xtacy! suggested already. Read the ICS discussion thread. It should help a lot.
And BTW, wrong section
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what LED bug? i don't have any LED bug
OverLo4d said:
what LED bug? i don't have any LED bug
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The LED doesn't notify upon receiving a text msg while the screen is off. It notify only once. But in GB it used to notify after certain interval so that we can understand that a msg was received.
Users were complaining about it also in SONY Forum.
Hello all!
Usually I strut about the Android Development forum only, but I've a question for you Arc (S) owners.
I own an Arc S, and I'm quite ok with it. One thing is bugging me though, and I want to know how you are doing with it to know if it's supposed to be like this or not.
Whenever I run a game such as Corby (great game, bought full content and also worked normally on my old HTC Desire), it goes crazy after a couple of minutes of playing. This happened on stock Gingerbread, stock ICS (though even quicker) and all custom ROMs I tried.
Going crazy here means: not accurately registering touch at all, or not at all, or at random, on and off. The game keeps on running, but the touch input is ignored at most, severed at best.
As Corby has a couple of levels to try for free, and as it's fun enough to play for say 15-30 minutes, I was wondering:
Could any of you perhaps install and play it and let me know how/if it works for you, and what setup you have? With setup I mean:
Phone: Arc / Arc S
ROM: Stock ICS/Stock Gingerbread/Custom, being...
Kernel: Stock ICS/Stock Gingerbread/Custom, being ... with ... governor and ... IO, on clock speeds ... to ...
Game: HD graphics/low graphics (switchable in game settings)
I want to know because if it does run properly for any of you, I'm going to return my phone and get another one back as it's still under warranty for me, though I won't bother the hassle if you all have the issue.
I'd really, really appreciate your help!
Oh, and here's a link to Cordy in Play Store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.silvertree.cordy&hl=nl
Arc, Stock rom (v6 supercharged) & stock kernel (1ghz, deadline), HD graphics - i've played the game for about 10 minutes and i had no problems.
Just do full wipe and reinstall rom with pc companion, changing phone is a bad idea
Questions go in the Q&A section
Works fine, no lag, no errors.
Even with 1 Ghz. Settings: HD, smartassv2, sio
mando508 said:
Arc, Stock rom (v6 supercharged) & stock kernel (1ghz, deadline), HD graphics - i've played the game for about 10 minutes and i had no problems.
Just do full wipe and reinstall rom with pc companion, changing phone is a bad idea
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Changing as in replacing my possibly faulty Arc S with a normally working Arc S, a bad idea?
PS: Stock as in Gingerbread or ICS?
Believe me your Arc is not damaged ;p. I'm on gingerbread, on ICS i've got too many performance issues like yours here.
If you mean bugs like holding a button that I am not anymore holding, I have them as well in many games. It's almost like the game freezes, but without the graphics and sound freezing - no input is being registered for a few seconds, but game is "running" normally.
I explained this to myself by assuming it's when the phone runs out of RAM, but not sure..
mando: problem is, I have had it on gingerbread to, both Stock and Arconium...
matus: that's exactly what's happening, although, if my knowledge on Android's memory management is correct, that can't be the cause. If anything the entire game should close, not just the input. Also while you say for a few seconds, with my Arc S it's more: once it's gone it stays gone. Doesn't come back until reboot, and not for long either.
Anyone else got issues like this?
guys , i've tried several ics roms over few months and they are either buggy or laggy , so my question is : is there a rom for arc that doesn't laggg.
i've already tried JJ's in addition to some other roms , it always starts nice and smooth at first , but after a while it gets laggy
currently using JJ's Hybrid 3.1 with about 140 mbs on internal ram (using link2sd). and overclocked at 1.4 GHz
so is there anything that will work or should face the inevitable and revert back to Gingerbread
also : do you guys think , that jellybean roms , by any chance are(will be) smoother than ics
None, i tried all of them, from custom to stock. They seem fast and responsive at first, then i siwtch between a few apps then try to use the keyboard .... BAM, 10-20 secs lag.
All the ICS roms lag like hell in the moment when i need my phone the most (write a note, call a number, answer a call).
I am back to GB until CM10 goes a little stable, if it keeps the same lag as ICS then i will go back to GB forever on this device.
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None, i tried all of them, from custom to stock. They seem fast and responsive at first, then i siwtch between a few apps then try to use the keyboard .... BAM, 10-20 secs lag.
All the ICS roms lag like hell in the moment when i need my phone the most (write a note, call a number, answer a call).
I am back to GB until CM10 goes a little stable, if it keeps the same lag as ICS then i will go back to GB forever on this device.
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yeah , that's what i thought :|
i feel you bro , i think i'll go ahead , switch back to GB and finally , .. admit that my single core arc is too crappy for ICS.
DAMN YOU sony ,if it weren't so sexy , i would never have bought it.
Oh THE IRONY , back when i bought it , the ugly S2 was like "70$ only" more expensive than the arc !!!!
I would never go for S2 over Arc S, if I could choose again. But yes, Gingerbread runs much smoother than ICS, but I think that new ICS update is not that terrible, and I never had any "few seconds" lag, no matter how many apps I start one after another...
@ningen90: lol at the "DAMN YOU SONY, if it weren't so sexy" haha sorry, i was also victimized by its sexiness I also tried to scout for an ICS candidate, but there are always comments that it lags, so im running GB at the moment. some people say its ok, but most of the replies are about lag damn you sexy arc... hahaha
Actually ICS wasn't optimized for performance ...it is going to lag from time to time even on A high end devixe ...try Jelly Bean ...it is the evolution of ICS to performance .
Sent from my Xperia Arc S using Tapatalk 2
Any of you tried arconium? I know some ICS roms lag, but with arconium im pretty happy
I got an S2 too btw
Try Jelly Sandwich, mate. With XArc kernel, of course.
Sent from my CM9'd Galaxy Tab 2 10.1
no chance of any smoothness of ICS on ARC
ICS was meant to run properly on devices with ram greater than 512mb. With only 512mb of ram it can only hold the necessary system applications of ANDROID. SO while running ICS on arc it RUNS SMOOTHLY FIRST but afterwards the apps get CACHED it starts lagging
REALLY LIKE HELL (with only 100-150mb ram gets left what do you expect its PERFORMANCE).SO i don't think that there is any possibility of running ICS smoothly forever on ARC.:crying:
JELLY BEAN on the other hand will also be requiring HIGH SPEC DEVICES..SO don't expect it also run without any lag on arc.
I don't know why SONY ERICSSON only put 512mb of ram in all it's 2011 xperia devices while also assuring to RUN OUT THE ICS UPDATE knowing the fact that ICS requires a higher RAM value.
I like the INTERFACE of ICS but to use it on the ARC IS TO GIVE UP the speed and performance.I used it for a month(tried every ics and cm9 rom)
but was too too UPSET. SO gone back to the GINGER BREAD ROM(it's best for the xperia arc).:good:
TO USE ICS SMOOTHLY I SUGGEST TO BUY ANOTHER DEVICE WITH HIGH END SPECS.
Jellybean
ningen90 said:
guys , i've tried several ics roms over few months and they are either buggy or laggy , so my question is : is there a rom for arc that doesn't laggg.
i've already tried JJ's in addition to some other roms , it always starts nice and smooth at first , but after a while it gets laggy
currently using JJ's Hybrid 3.1 with about 140 mbs on internal ram (using link2sd). and overclocked at 1.4 GHz
so is there anything that will work or should face the inevitable and revert back to Gingerbread
also : do you guys think , that jellybean roms , by any chance are(will be) smoother than ics
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Jellybean rom is far better than ICS. No laggy....butter smooth. :laugh:
I installed FXP's CM10. It was awesome experience. But the rom is in alpha stage....but we can use it as daily rom. :good:
Hope we will get jellybean stable version early.
Go thru this link for more details on FXP's Jelly bean - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780316
Hit thanks if I helped you.
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Rooted/Unlocked BootLoader
Running JellyBean FXP132/CM10
The lagging is down to free memory - FYI I had terrible lag on GB too before I realised. You really need to be careful what you allow to run in the background.
Basically, you need to make sure there's somewhere around 100 MB free ram most of the time to guarantee a lag-free experience. You can use ES Task Manager to see what apps are consuming memory, and the 'running' tab in Manage Apps to see the services. Bear in mind widgets can be very memory hungry, particularly if you have 5 screens full of them; it's often best to use something like Beautiful Widgets which allows you to have various different widgets running, but they consume the same memory as one.
Just like on Windows, some apps pointlessly run at startup, consuming your system resources even when they're not being used - LivewareManager is one example. Worse still, these apps often restart automatically if killed. You can use SystemCleanup and/or Autorun Manager to stop this behaviour.
You may find alternatives to apps that need to run in the background also. For example, there's a taking caller ID app called eCID which needs to run all the time and consumes about 30 MB. I switched to a very similar app, Spoken Caller ID, and that just starts when the phone receives a call, and stops after it has done its job. The same is true of antivirus apps and others.
Some apps need to run as an "accessibility service", which is also always running in the background. Lightflow is an example of this, as is Tasker and some SmartWatch notification apps. Work out if you really need these. For example, I quickly realised that Tasker could effectively do the job my battery saver app and lightflow were doing all by itself.
If you use an alternative keyboard, the regular one keeps running in the background. Also, if you've replaced the TTS engine with one that sounds less robotic, it might be the case that one app is running for each installed voice. The solution here is to 'freeze' those using Titanium Backup or SystemCleanup.
I don't have any lag on my Arc, thanks to reducing what apps are running all the time to just the ones I actually want.
KartzXDA said:
Jellybean rom is far better than ICS. No laggy....butter smooth. :laugh:
I installed FXP's CM10. It was awesome experience. But the rom is in alpha stage....but we can use it as daily rom. :good:
Hope we will get jellybean stable version early.
Go thru this link for more details on FXP's Jelly bean - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780316
Hit thanks if I helped you.
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yeah , i've been keeping my eyes on CM10 for a while now , but it's still far from complete , i think i'll wait a lil' bit more, thanx anyway
amankumar2508007 said:
ICS was meant to run properly on devices with ram greater than 512mb. With only 512mb of ram it can only hold the necessary system applications of ANDROID. SO while running ICS on arc it RUNS SMOOTHLY FIRST but afterwards the apps get CACHED it starts lagging
REALLY LIKE HELL (with only 100-150mb ram gets left what do you expect its PERFORMANCE).SO i don't think that there is any possibility of running ICS smoothly forever on ARC.:crying:
JELLY BEAN on the other hand will also be requiring HIGH SPEC DEVICES..SO don't expect it also run without any lag on arc.
I don't know why SONY ERICSSON only put 512mb of ram in all it's 2011 xperia devices while also assuring to RUN OUT THE ICS UPDATE knowing the fact that ICS requires a higher RAM value.
I like the INTERFACE of ICS but to use it on the ARC IS TO GIVE UP the speed and performance.I used it for a month(tried every ics and cm9 rom)
but was too too UPSET. SO gone back to the GINGER BREAD ROM(it's best for the xperia arc).:good:
TO USE ICS SMOOTHLY I SUGGEST TO BUY ANOTHER DEVICE WITH HIGH END SPECS.
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Totally Disagree.
just Have a Look on CM9 & CM10.
They Do not Lag.
Its A Problem Of Sony,Because Sony Did Not Optimised The ICS Rom.
So They Lagged.
Our Xperia Arc.Can Run It Smoother.:silly:
Only Thing It Requires A Good Rom Dev. Like Fxp.
Latest 587 firmware is far better, but yes, you always need to freeze unwanted services. It's not always Sony fault, when you use maps and quit the app, there is part of it that stay in background, like location service, same for the store.
Those Google apps are among the worse thing, they dont quit, stay in background, eating memory and cpu.
Another cause of laginess is the constant log writing, everything is log, i use CM7 on a Desire and there is much less logs. I don't know if there is a means to stop logging, i read a lot about logcat, but nothing useful.
And remember to always quit an application by the menu, if there is one or by return. using home simply put it on background.
ningen90 said:
i've already tried JJ's in addition to some other roms , it always starts nice and smooth at first , but after a while it gets laggy
currently using JJ's Hybrid 3.1 with about 140 mbs on internal ram (using link2sd). and overclocked at 1.4 GHz ...
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ram and internal storage are two very different things, you seem to be confusing them - link2sd gives you more free internal storage, it does nothing for your ram. I'd bet your problem is free ram.
now i'm using JellySandwich 3.3 with infamous kernel, with link2sd and a lot of apps installed, the HTC keyboard (i kind of love it), and the perfomance it's good, so as the battery life (about 10 hours with heavy usage, games, wifi browsing...) the only thing with this rom, it's the scrolling on some heavy web pages (like phonearena), it's not so smooth like stock rom, or another ones that i try.
My Xperia Arc has ~220MB free of ram with locked bootloader and it's un-rooted, and I'm on ICS 4.0.4 with firmware 4.1.B.0.578.
I use stock rom, and stock kernel, and I'm using Apex launcher
Did you try this??'
adrianom said:
Guys,
The Vendor folder exist on both devices, but on LT15 Firmware the vendor is a partition and include apps, different from LT18 where the folder is only for configuration and is inside SYSTEM partition.
Because of this is that LT15 has a small SYSTEM partition when flash the LT15 firmware.
What I did was flash LT15 firmware, make a backup of SYSTEM and VENDOR folder with ADB and TAR, and then flash LT18 SYSTEM and USERDATA partition only (with FlashTool). This remakes the partition table and resize SYSTEM and DATA partition to ~400mb.
Than after flash SYSTEM and USERDATA from LT18, I format the SYSTEM partition and restore both SYSTEM e VENDOR backup that I make, placing the configuration files of VENDOR partition in folder VENDOR of SYSTEM partition, and moving the APKs from APP folder in VENDOR to APP folder on SYSTEM root.
This worked perfectly, and now I have all APKs in SYSTEM/APP and the partition size of LT18 firmware with LT15 firmware.
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I did it on my arc and it runs fine and have 420 mb for apps, no llags, no frezess, and i think more batery life... try it!, but i didn't instal any tweak, or external widget manager or apps for beautify, i'm very happy with it.
hey guyz,
i am using sony ericsson xperia arc s (LT18i). current OS android gingerbread 2.3.4. when i connected to pc companion it showed an update. but i heard that ICS is not suitable for xperia arc s. there are some prb with updating arc s to ICS. i mean after updating arc s to ICS there occurs some bugs related or other problem after updating xperia arc s. so can anyone tell me in details. lyk wat are the disadvantages of updating arc s to ICS.
thank u.....
samveer said:
hey guyz,
i am using sony ericsson xperia arc s (LT18i). current OS android gingerbread 2.3.4. when i connected to pc companion it showed an update. but i heard that ICS is not suitable for xperia arc s. there are some prb with updating arc s to ICS. i mean after updating arc s to ICS there occurs some bugs related or other problem after updating xperia arc s. so can anyone tell me in details. lyk wat are the disadvantages of updating arc s to ICS.
thank u.....
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Actually..there is no problem with ics for arc s,
It is fast, and stable for daily use as it is official
But for hard gaming, it is sometimes laggy (but don't worry it is the same in gb)
All i can say is update your phone and amaze yourself for new
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bluestricker_21 said:
Actually..there is no problem with ics for arc s,
It is fast, and stable for daily use as it is official
But for hard gaming, it is sometimes laggy (but don't worry it is the same in gb)
All i can say is update your phone and amaze yourself for new
Features
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haha GB same than ICS for gaming, are u kidding me? GB is and will be the best for gaming + smoothness
If you like gaming stay in GB. In ICS you will have to make tweaks to run them smoothly.
Example (its for Arc but it applies to ArcS too since its a memory issue):
Dungeon Defenders: Second Wave worked ok in GB but on ICS it crashes after a while but when I use a Ram swapper (uses sd for RAM), its ok.
Try those new JB adreno drivers too.
samveer said:
hey guyz,
i am using sony ericsson xperia arc s (LT18i). current OS android gingerbread 2.3.4. when i connected to pc companion it showed an update. but i heard that ICS is not suitable for xperia arc s. there are some prb with updating arc s to ICS. i mean after updating arc s to ICS there occurs some bugs related or other problem after updating xperia arc s. so can anyone tell me in details. lyk wat are the disadvantages of updating arc s to ICS.
thank u.....
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If you like playing all games that can be played on arcs gb than stay on gb.ICS has camera recording issue,laggs.I have flashed 5 times ICS in hope i will find a ROM stable for playing,recording,but i come back to GB.The best in ICS is the UI it's very nice Rom but it's laggy and i don't like laggy.
Sent from my LT15i using xda premium
at the moment, ICS on the arc is still buggy. the firmware has not matured enough not to have glitches. so far, the most annoying things I noticed are the terrible battery life, glitches like unexplained FC, and the network mode bug which resets your preferred mode after reboot. even sotck based custom roms are not immune to these problems since they practically use the same base software
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1983559
I have an Arc lt15i and i recently updated from GB .62 to ICS .587.
I found ICS visually better than GB, but otherwise not too much difference.
Bad points:
- LED notification doesn't work for received SMS
- System/user apps use more memory
- The phone gets damn near hot when downloading thru 3G, watching video, browsing internet.
LED not a bid deal for me. There's a menu in Settings called Developer Options which allows you to control the number of background processes. I set it to no background processes and kept my free memory up around 160-190MB instead of 50-60MB in standard setting. And the heat coming from the back/top-half of the phone was what bothered me, because it felt like it was going to damage the phone from overheating.
Good points:
- Phone Dialer a lot better to use
- Music player controls on lock screen
- Ability to 'disable' system/user apps when they can't be uninstalled.
I just found out today how to downgrade firmware and that's what i've just done. I'm now back to GB .42 and rooted.
In my opinion, try ICS out, cos if you don't like it just flash the old firmware back.
If i can get those 'good points' into GB, i'd be happy.
So long as you're using a custom ROM then ICS should be fine. I found stock ICS to be very laggy.