Rom, Kernels, and Themes...Oh My - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Now, I have been reading and watching videos (qbking77 made some great ones) trying to understand everything before trying to change my phone. Now from what I understand, you need to root your phone, install a kernel, install CWM (preferred method of installing items), install a ROM, and then you can install a theme.
Qbking77 posted a video on "How to root and clockworkmod the Samsung Epic Touch 4G" but in this video it has links for a combined zip that will also install the eg30plus kernel. I have read that this kernel can have a LOS, so people have recommended the LoStKernel. So I take it I need to do individual steps? First root the phone? Then install the LoStKernel? Then install CWM? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Next question is regarding ROMs. There are so many of them, I get confused. Which is good? Is it a matter of which fits best with how people enjoy their phone? If so, I like having as pure of an Android experience as possible (I think that is called AOSP?) with great battery life. I hate bloatware, and want to install the stuff I want on my phone rather than what Sprint puts on it. I also dislike the layout, email, MMS, etc. that Samsung has put on the phone. Suggestions?
Lastly, themes. There are a bunch out there. I have seen some great ones such as brkear1967 ICS one. Though I am unsure. On my HP Touchpad I am using the Honeycomb 3D - SB theme (Awesome Theme) using Theme Chooser since CM7 was ported to it, but I know CM has not done a CM7 for this phone yet, which will probably come after they start rolling out ICS. Anyway, any suggestions when it comes to Themes would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks so much for any and all information people may give. it's really appreciated.

I guess, I am supposed to do Odin with the eg30plus kernel, then I can Odin to the LoStKernel?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

I was not rooted and all I did was odin the lostkernel and I gained root with cwm. From there you can flash whatever you want through cwm. Hope that helps.
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Thanks so much!

I would follow that video you watched.It comes with CWM. Then install this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1304600
It comes with the Lostkernel and is AOSP kinda. Then you can theme to what ever you please.
I recommend to start with this theme:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315232
great ICS theme.

Akradroid said:
I would follow that video you watched.It comes with CWM. Then install this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1304600
It comes with the Lostkernel and is AOSP kinda. Then you can theme to what ever you please.
I recommend to start with this theme:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315232
great ICS theme.
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That is exactly the theme I wanted to install, but when I went to go install the ROM I kept getting Force Closes of everything. I couldn't even see my screen, only the force closes of the status bar, MMS, etc.
So, I had to take the battery out, and boot into CWM to restore my backup of just the LoStkernel.
Steps I took:
1. Copied zip to my phone.
2. Booted into CWM.
3. Factory Reset / Wipe.
4. Clear Cache.
5. Clear Davik Cache.
6. Install.
After I restored, I applied the SB Rom then put on the Nothin But Honey Theme. A very nice Theme and Rom, but really wanted to try that Theme you had suggested. I think my problem was, since I did these steps for applying the Starburst Rom, that I did a Factory Reset / Wipe instead of:
1. Format System under Mounts and Storage.
2. Wipe Data.
3. Clear Cache.
4. Clear Davik Cache.
5. Install.
I am not sure though. I think I could always, boot into CWM and restore back to just the LoStKernel, then do the steps above for the AOSP Rom then the ICS Theme. But again, not entirely sure.
Thanks!

Also, another thing...since installing the above SB Rom and Nothin But Honey Theme, I went from 94% Battery down to 66% Battery in a matter of an hour. That does not seem normal to me.

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Q: what should I do?

Hi, so I'm super green but itching to load custom kernel and rom... So my Evo is rooted and have seen some pretty sweet roms, lol, kinda scared to flash and not sure what roms go with what kernals, do I even need a new kernal? What I really want is a kernal I can overclock to 1198mhz, and a rom build based on honeycomb and or gingerbread that is 100% stable or as close as I can get... Help? Lol...
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hahah exited aren't you... welcome to the root world!
you asked for hc/gb. google hasnt released hc source code yet, probably not until ice cream, so there is none of that. you can however download cyanogen(mod) 7, which is almost totally stable.
http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=supersonic
there's the mirror link. download either rls4 or nightly 33. nightly 33 is a bit funky bcuz cyanogen is pulling an april fools prank saying he sold cm to teh duck revolution, and the rom is now called 'teh duck uber distro'. so maybe rls4 or just wait for the next nightly.
everything works. 4g (with one bug that there is an annoying fix for), hdmi (download hdmwin from the market) gps (with a fix) and everything else is perfect. it is still in beta/nightly stages, but should be done soon. it is my daily driver, as well as many other peoples. this rom is crazzzy popular. try it for sure.
start with stock kernel, but i'd try both savaged-zen and tiamat kernels on it. they will both give you much better battery. tiamat tends to give slightly better performance/quickness but savaged-zen (on custom SAVAGEZEN governer) gives fantastic battery. try them both!!!
again, welcome to the community. hope this helps.
Where do I get the kernals? And what process do I use? I have clockwork premium... I just don't wanna miss a step a jack myself
Also, is it gonna wipe my phone, do I need to wipe it? No issues with that though as I do it all the time... And thank you so much for the feedback BTW, still a little confused...
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ok, first of all, clockworkmod isn't the recovery you want to be using. download amon-ra's recovery here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026 make sure you get the pc36img.zip. put the pc36img.zip on the root of your sdcard (that means not in any folders) MAKING SURE IT IS NAMED EXACTLY PC36IMG.ZIP. aka just dont rename it. then power off your phone, and once it is off, hold power and volume down. you will see a white screen with scateboarding droids at the bottom. this is your BOOTLOADER SCREEN also known as hboot, and you see it quite often. so hboot will scan your sdcard, and find the pc36img.zip. hit volume up to accept the 'update'. then once it is done, volume up again to reboot.
you can download kernels from the evo android development subforum right here at the xda.
so first flash your rom. you can either boot up into it, or just flash the kernel right away. flash the kernel just like you would a rom, but without wiping.
enjoy.
any other questions, ask away.
dkdude36 said:
ok, first of all, clockworkmod isn't the recovery you want to be using. download amon-ra's recovery here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
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100% agree. Amon Ra imo is the much more stable & user friendly recovery
Alright, so, can I do all this just from my phone? Is a pc recommended? Will my stock kernal overclock? Never flashed a rom before, I'm an electronic/computer tech so I pick up shniz pretty quick but still don't wanna b---- this sucker...
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you can do it all from your phone if you want. i perfer downloading on my pc and transferring from there in case i want to modify anything, but you can always just dload on phone. make sure the pc36img.zip isnt in download folder or anything if you do. it needs to be on the root. your stock kernel can't overclock sadly. if you have never flashed a rom before, then cm7 will be crazy different than stock rom. most custom rom's are based off the stock htc software, just modded. cm7 is aosp, which means it is stock GOOGLE software. htc spends quite a few months modifying htc sense into google software, so the speed and memory increase is very noticable. just wipe data, cache, and dalvik cache when switching roms. you might want to backup your apps and their data using titanium backup. just dont backup system data, that can cause problems. then flash the rom after wiping, flash any kernel or addons you want (dont forget to flash gapps if it is an aosp rom, bcuz if you dont u wont have the market or anything) and reboot. for any other mods you install after that on the same rom, just wipe cache and dalvik cache and then flash away. wiping data between roms is always reccomended. if you want to stick with the cm7 nightlys, then all you need to wipe is cache and dalvik. there is never much of a problem with just flashing one over the other without a data wipe.
and forgot to mention, you cant control amon-ra recovery with rom manager. but then again, rom manager is just a touch screen version of recovery. you get used to the volume/power keys pretty quickly.
ok, im freaking out now, my phone is locked in the cm little surfer droid with the arrow circling around been constantly running for about 45 mins, im fuct, really fuct without my phone!!! its my only internet too!!! PLEASE HELP!!!
Did you do a factory wipe, Clear the cache & wipe Dalvik?
Sounds like it just wasn't a good install. Do the above in recovery & reinstall your ROM
ya did you wipe? doesnt sound like it. make sure data, cache, and dalvik cache are all wiped successfully. also make sure you are using amon-ra recovery. cwm can sometimes give you problems.

How do I upgrade rom (to cyanogen 7) after previously rooting with AutoRoot v2.4

Hello,
I think the subject says it all. I currently have android 2.2 (can't even remember what ROM I flashed) after rooting using Autoroot 2.4. Now I'd like to update my ROM to cyanogen 7. How do I go about doing this?
It appears that if I go to power down and choose reset -> recovery that Android System Recovery loads w/ Build "RA-supersonic-v2.3 - HAUS MOD rev.A" -- I presume that this is the key to flashing cyanogen 7?
What I think I do is:
Put cyanogen 7 image (zip file) in root folder of SD card
Boot into recovery mode
Make backup (NANdroid)
Select Wipe, then Wipe data/factory reset
Select Flash zip from sdcard.
Select the CyanogenMod update.zip.
Reboot
and I'm done???
But I would appreciate some more or less brick proof direction.
Thanks!
Personally, I would suggest Deck's or SalvageMod instead of CM7. Both are optimized and fly!
Well you would need whichever CM7 you want to flash (stable, nightly, etc). Also, you will need GAPPS. Probably want a custom kernel too, I suggest Tiamat 4.1.0 SBC.
Download and put on SD card. Boot into recovery.
Wipe cache and dalvik. Then nandroid, select everything you want. I typically keep on backup on my card.
Wipe everything except for SD card twice. Navigate to Flash Zips. Flash the ROM, then GAPPS, then mount data in "Mounts" then flash Tiamat kernel. Reboot. Let it sit, then reboot. Then do the setup
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Thanks for the help. I installed cyanogenmod 7 and it seems to be working. I'm now restoring my backups. I don't really like the default skin and much preferred my old rom. I wonder if just changing the theme will help (I think I like the more factory setup... is that called sense?)
What is the advantage of installing tiamat kernel?
Thanks for the help!
The default skin is just a default. Take a look at my setup, picture in my signature). It doesn't look anything like the default setup for Cyanogen.
exluke said:
Thanks for the help. I installed cyanogenmod 7 and it seems to be working. I'm now restoring my backups. I don't really like the default skin and much preferred my old rom. I wonder if just changing the theme will help (I think I like the more factory setup... is that called sense?)
What is the advantage of installing tiamat kernel?
Thanks for the help!
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Tiamat kernel has different governors, has HAVS, and SBC. There is a sticky at the top of Q&A discussing kernels, it is really helpful.
Are you talking about the theme or launcher? You can always install another launcher from the Market. I have grown fond of Launcher 7. Themes, there are many options. Check Evo Themes and Apps section. You can also download themes to use in Theme Manager from the Market too.
OR, have you heard of UOT Kitchen? Google it, watch a tutorial. You can make your own flashable theme!
And yes, HTC's software is Sense. I suggest MikG, it has 4G and everything, much more functionality than stock software. It is Sense to
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Thanks for all the info!
I'm trying to install the theme "HTC.Elegance-CM7-Theme v4.5.1"
To do so I've gone into the recovery menu
then I wipe cache and dalvik cache
then I load the HTC elegance theme zip file like I did to flash the cm7 mod and
reboot
however, it keeps booting into the default theme. What could I be doing wrong here?
Also, is there a graphical app that will allow quickly changing themes w/o multiple reboots?
Thanks!
CM7 seems quite slow. I may bail on this one and try something else. My last rom was sprintlovers and believe it or not I liked it a lot. Would MikG provide a similar experience or is something else similar recommended?
Thanks!
exluke said:
CM7 seems quite slow. I may bail on this one and try something else. My last rom was sprintlovers and believe it or not I liked it a lot. Would MikG provide a similar experience or is something else similar recommended?
Thanks!
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I guess you'd get a similar experience, its sense based, with all his extras. So if you lik sense, go ahead and try it.
Thanks again for all the tips. I ended up restoring my phone w/ NAND and then installing latest sprintlovers to get me up to 2.3. That's all I really need at this point, hopefully it does everything I need it to do.
exluke said:
Thanks for all the info!
I'm trying to install the theme "HTC.Elegance-CM7-Theme v4.5.1"
To do so I've gone into the recovery menu
then I wipe cache and dalvik cache
then I load the HTC elegance theme zip file like I did to flash the cm7 mod and
reboot
however, it keeps booting into the default theme. What could I be doing wrong here?
Also, is there a graphical app that will allow quickly changing themes w/o multiple reboots?
Thanks!
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Flashing the theme just loads it into your phone. Once you've flashed it you need to go into your app drawer and select the app called "Theme Chooser." When that opens you can scroll through the various themes loaded onto your phone. Select the one you just flash and hit "Apply." Bam! You're all themed up!

[Q] Flashing Themes

Every time I try to flash a theme it never works. I have rooted my phone using ACS recovery and I'm running the Legendary 2.1 ROM. I follow the instructions that come with the theme such as wiping cache and dalvik cache but that still doesn't work. The theme can be located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227858 and
Does the zip flash? Does it says install completed, reboot phone?
Maybe u should Odin ur phone. That should get rid of any issues
My phone besides being EPIC its also LEGENGDARY!!
Is any theme you try to flash? Or just this one? You may be catching a bad download...also try flashing 2x, I don't believe its necessary, bit I seem to have better/more solid flashes when I do it twice. Also, you could try flashing something more simple, like a battery mod or app mod. I'm afraid to say it, but if its just not a bad dl, you may need to Odin and try again. I suggest checking out QBking77's 'how to' videos on YouTube for this process. He will provide links for everything you need, and is very good at showing you all the steps needed. Good luck!
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Try the theme flashing app Metamorph. Marcusant just told me about it. I used it long ago for fonts but now allows you to store and switch themes either entirely or by component.

*NEWBIE* Just Rooted My Epic 4G Touch, Have a few questions?

Yes i just rooted my epic 4g touch yesterday. Looking for where I should go from here. I did only root it so Im going to go home and do the option "c" on the automated script tool so i can flash it with EK02+CWM so I have the CWM to flash roms. My questions are: I am currently on android 2.3.6 on EK02 Kernel. Should I stay on that kernel or should I do something different? Something newer or better? Also Once I have the kernel with CWM installed, can someone give me proper EASY instructions how to flash a rom? or theme? Also is there any recommended combination of a kernel/ROM/Modem i should install? I don't want something that has several bugs. The least, the better! ;-) Please any information would help. I'm a Newbie lol
Any Rom you flash will have a kernel built in. For the sake of you being new to this, I would just use the kernel the Rom comes with right now and worry about playing with kernels later.
The Modem will not flash with the ROM and needs to be flashed separately. Again, you might want to just stay with what you have right now. Any combination of the ROM, Kernel, and Modem will work. There is no science to what combo works best and is all a matter of personal opinion and experiences.
Once you install CWM, you can flash a ROM. Just download the ROM and add put it on your internal SD Card that phone has. Then boot into CWM. An easy way to do this is to download quick boot from the market and you can boot into CWM.
When in there wipe all system data (will remove all you apps from your phone.), cache, and dalvik cache (in advnaced).
Then go to install file from sd card. Choose internal, then go to the zip file that is the ROM. Click on it and install. After it is done, reboot the phone from CWM and you will now have a custom ROM.
Most of the ROMs you would want to install are on the 1st page of the Dev section. I currently running UnNamed ROM as it is extremely stable and has been giving me good battery life. I am on EL29 Modem and running the kernel the ROM came with.
There are other ROMS that offer more theming if you would like but sometime do not offer the same stability as some other ROMS.
For themes, make sure they are compatible with whatever ROM you are running. To flash a theme, you would do it the same way as a ROM except no need to clear system data. Just wipe Cache and Dalvik so you do not lose your info and then flash the zip. Also, if the ROM you are using is updated you usually do not need to clear system data either but if you jump to a totally different ROM you will need to clear everything.
A good app to get is Titanium Backup. I totally recommend purchasing the Pro version but you can get away with the free one. You can backup the apps you have on your phone and then reload them on the new Rom. Make sure to only put back the apps you downloaded and not apps from the system. You can a batch save and restore instead of doing each one individually. Click the settings menu, then batch.
Hope this helps you get started. Sorry, if any of this is confusing as sometimes I just ramble on as I type...Any more questions just ask away...We have a good group of people here.
If you like the color blue you should install Strongsteve's odexed ROM. If you don't like the color blue you should still install his ROM. Not only is it a beautiful to look at set up, it's also very stable and fast. Constant improvements are always being made as well. And you will soon be a fan of all things blue
There are other ROMS on the developers page. Some are tweaked for long battery life, some are themed but all are worthy of a look. It just comes down to personal preference.
As for the modem you will need to flash that separately. Try a few different ones and see which gives you the best performance.
Ok cool. Thanks guys. So if i want to stay on this modem I am on now. I could basically just flash the rom I want and this modem will stay on my phone right? I don't need to re flash it?
Yes.....you are correct. Now that you're rooted let the fun begin!
powerstroke said:
Ok cool. Thanks guys. So if i want to stay on this modem I am on now. I could basically just flash the rom I want and this modem will stay on my phone right? I don't need to re flash it?
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correct.
I don't think any ROMS flash with modems except for the EK02 sprint official Over-The-Air update.
Awesome. One last thing lol, sorry for all the questions. I am currently on EK02. I am going to flash Strongsteve's odexed ROM. After I flash that rom, will I need to then flash again the EK02 Modem or is flashing the ROM all I need to do?
My advice stay on EK02 at least for couple days so you can compare with other setup. EK02 and EL13 have good results for me, everything else gives me bad battery life.
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lol i would like to stay on it and that's fine. I'm just wondering if after i flash this rom, my modem will stay on there? Or do i need to re flash the EK02 modem?
Your modem will stay
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roms and mods

What exactly does modding mean in the smartphone world? Does it mean taking bits and pieces from other roms and putting them into another? How do you do this?
Galaxynote1234 said:
What exactly does modding mean in the smartphone world? Does it mean taking bits and pieces from other roms and putting them into another? How do you do this?
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No an expert but yes.
Most developer will put different mod for small things like. Icons, status bar, removing the sprint, or something more complicated like a 3 way boot to a rom that will allowed you to boot into recovery once you hold the power button..
Most required root or a special rom running to allowed the tweek or mod to work. Mainly you will need root access or super user access to apply the majority of little tweeks available.
Is not taking from anything is a change to the rom or feature enabling you to do something that your rom did not let you do before
Simple I guess
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redline57 said:
No an expert but yes.
Most developer will put different mod for small things like. Icons, status bar, removing the sprint, or something more complicated like a 3 way boot to a rom that will allowed you to boot into recovery once you hold the power button..
Most required root or a special rom running to allowed the tweek or mod to work. Mainly you will need root access or super user access to apply the majority of little tweeks available.
Is not taking from anything is a change to the rom or feature enabling you to do something that your rom did not let you do before
Simple I guess
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Thanks. I'm just curious as to how I install the different tweaks. Say I wanted a notification task bar from one rom onto the rom i already have installed. How do I go about doing that?
Galaxynote1234 said:
Thanks. I'm just curious as to how I install the different tweaks. Say I wanted a notification task bar from one rom onto the rom i already have installed. How do I go about doing that?
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Is not as easy as to get a specific part of a rom. Is what is available from the developer for your rom.
Sometimes they are tweeks available to most rom in general. You would find that in the developers forum as well on themes.
In general the person providing the tweek will let you know in the first post how to installed or flash the tweek. You would need to read and see if it work on your rom.
Sometimes the best tweeks are apply to a whole rom in general, making that rom the best choice. Making the choice easy as to just flash that rom from the developer. That's when you start following your favorite themer or developer.
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redline57 said:
Is not as easy as to get a specific part of a rom. Is what is available from the developer for your rom.
Sometimes they are tweeks available to most rom in general. You would find that in the developers forum as well on themes.
In general the person providing the tweek will let you know in the first post how to installed or flash the tweek. You would need to read and see if it work on your rom.
Sometimes the best tweeks are apply to a whole rom in general, making that rom the best choice. Making the choice easy as to just flash that rom from the developer. That's when you start following your favorite themer or developer.
MIUI Jellybean 2.8.31 B2
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Thanks for the help! Really appreciate it. Had another question about roms but I didn't want to start another thread. Lets say I'm currently running the blazer rom and I wanted to start using the jellybomb domination rom. How do I do this. What are the steps because I've read a lot of threads and they just say to do a wipe first then install. So do I just put the file into my external sd storage, do a wipe/factory reset and then install the rom?
Galaxynote1234 said:
Thanks for the help! Really appreciate it. Had another question about roms but I didn't want to start another thread. Lets say I'm currently running the blazer rom and I wanted to start using the jellybomb domination rom. How do I do this. What are the steps because I've read a lot of threads and they just say to do a wipe first then install. So do I just put the file into my external sd storage, do a wipe/factory reset and then install the rom?
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Assuming you know how to flash and work with clockworkmod.
Make a folder on your internal SD called Root or whatever just to be organized. Place the rom inside the folder. This allowed you to be organized to what you are flashing keeping stuff separate to minimized flashing the wrong file.
What I do before a flash (make sure to reset wallet if you had setup before flashing)
Boot into recovery
Wipe user/data 3x
Wipe cache 3x
Wipe Dalvik 3x
Then look for the zip or installation file on the folder you save it.
Hit flash and you are golden.
Repeat steps for new rom.
Now if you are updating the same rom to a higher versión. The dev. Might tell you just to wipe cache and Dalvik and then flash.
Also there is a advance restore allowing you to just restore your data from a previous version. That way after you flash the update your phone boots with all your apps and setting you had before.
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redline57 said:
Assuming you know how to flash and work with clockworkmod.
Make a folder on your internal SD called Root or whatever just to be organized. Place the rom inside the folder. This allowed you to be organized to what you are flashing keeping stuff separate to minimized flashing the wrong file.
What I do before a flash (make sure to reset wallet if you had setup before flashing)
Boot into recovery
Wipe user/data 3x
Wipe cache 3x
Wipe Dalvik 3x
Then look for the zip or installation file on the folder you save it.
Hit flash and you are golden.
Repeat steps for new rom.
Now if you are updating the same rom to a higher versión. The dev. Might tell you just to wipe cache and Dalvik and then flash.
Also there is a advance restore allowing you to just restore your data from a previous version. That way after you flash the update your phone boots with all your apps and setting you had before.
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Thank you!! That clears things up a lot. I think I'll begin by installing Paranoid Android's new Rom and go from there. If I have any other questions I'll just post them in this thread or search for my answer. Thank you again!
Or a PM
Will do
You also need to be aware of whether a ROM is Odexed, or Deodexed. They are not compatible with each other.
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DrgnRebrn said:
You also need to be aware of whether a ROM is Odexed, or Deodexed. They are not compatible with each other.
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S3, running strongsteve's OdexedBlue ROM, using xda-developers app
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How does that effect flashing? I'm going to flash paranoid android so after I flash that say I want to begin using a different rom. How do I know if it's odexed or deodexed?

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