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Where next?

I'm in a quandary and I wanted to find out where people are going after the Desire. For me it is pretty much the perfect phone, this is down to build quality and developer support.
I don't know if i can move to a phone that doesn't have as much support, what will i do without all my flashing?!
Anyway, the SGSII is plastic and the Sensation isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination (it isn't the 'new Desire' in terms of changing the game).
What are others upgrading to? I've got 6 months on my contract, do i buy myself out and upgrade or wait it out?
All thoughts very welcome!

Now that the bootloader is unlocked im going with the sensation but a lot of people seem to be going with the galaxy s II

i would wait to see what the nexus 3 will be like, it is coming out with ice cream sandwhich and is proberly going to have a tegra 3 processor and google phones always have loads of development.

theyau said:
i would wait to see what the nexus 3 will be like, it is coming out with ice cream sandwhich and is proberly going to have a tegra 3 processor and google phones always have loads of development.
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What's the lead time on that? Are we expecting it this year? That will also depend on manufacturer for me too... can't deal with plastic phones!

This might be some sort of sacrilege but I would to see an Android device with the same design ethos as the iPhone 4.
HTC Sensation looks closest but I'm done with Sense.
Galaxy S2 would edge it for me at the moment though.
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Maix27 said:
What's the lead time on that? Are we expecting it this year? That will also depend on manufacturer for me too... can't deal with plastic phones!
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it is expected in time for xmas or in january it is also going to be made by htc or lg, google hasn't desided yet

A friend of mine has the HTC Incredible S and it's really nice, the only problem is, it still has the locked bootloader and I'm not sure how easy rooting it would be.

FlareHeart said:
A friend of mine has the HTC Incredible S and it's really nice, the only problem is, it still has the locked bootloader and I'm not sure how easy rooting it would be.
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With locked bootloader it is practical impossible to install a custom rom.
Maix27 said:
Where next?
I'm in a quandary and I wanted to find out where people are going after the Desire. For me it is pretty much the perfect phone, this is down to build quality and developer support.
I don't know if i can move to a phone that doesn't have as much support, what will i do without all my flashing?!
Anyway, the SGSII is plastic and the Sensation isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination (it isn't the 'new Desire' in terms of changing the game).
What are others upgrading to? I've got 6 months on my contract, do i buy myself out and upgrade or wait it out?
All thoughts very welcome!
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Although you do not want it, a very good review of sgsII:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
The lg optimus speed p990 seems to be good, too.
If i were you, i would buy the sgsII or wait until the next htc-phone with as of now again unlocked bootloader releases and buy this one.

Good-bye (and thanks for all the fish...)

After yesterday's disapointing release I finally bit the bullet and got a new 'phone from my network operator. I was offered a choice between the HTC sensation and the Samsung Galaxy II and I went for the latter mainly because I was not impressed with the HTC approach to the GB update. I will move to reading their section in xda.
To all those that have helped me either through lurking on their threads or by answering my questions I just wanted to say thank-you!

Enjoy your new phone! Although I didn't think Samsung are any better at updates lol
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Laters!
if you want updates you need to go Nexus really.
Samsung are flavour of the month for the moment - but remember their FroYo release? It took about 3-4 months after HTC's release...
Failing that you just need to go AOSP with a custom rom - which you can do on almost any handset.
Perhaps you should address your goodbye to HTC directly

here you are
Flashlight

Have you heard of custom roms?

Mates just let him be

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mates just let him be
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Good luck with your samsung things, grass isn't always greener and better in next door!

Well update to Gb which HTC released is in my opinion great cause they just do everything they were able to port GB to desire and than just released it for developers. For some time we will have great custom roms with official Gb, alreadywe have SuperNova by Droidzone.
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killerofsniper said:
Good luck with your samsung things, grass isn't always greener and better in next door!
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The greener the grass the more s*it it contains

I love my Desire
I love the my Desire, and pretty sure it is going to be the Android phone I would use for at least 1.5 years.
The main reason being there are so many Desire users, the ROMs just keep coming and getting better.

Like op i've moved from a desire to a sgs2 for many reasons, mainly my contract was up and I didn't like the lag on the sensation screen! But what gets me is how many people keep going on about custom roms for the desire. Of course there are loads the phone is old in tech year's, I'm sure the same will happen to the sgs2 in about 6 months, but to be honest I don't find much difference between the 2 apart from never having to think about how many applications I can have. Ie running out of memory! As they say you pay ya money and make ya choice.
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I was thinking of selling my desire and buy a Sensation but when I read all those user comments about all the issues I changed my mind, sensation still have that nice look, but when we talk about software I cant say the same of what I hear, now I dont know what to do to keep desire and wait until they release some new phone wich will work normal, or give up of HTC and buy some other brand with android.

Lothaen said:
Samsung are flavour of the month for the moment - but remember their FroYo release? It took about 3-4 months after HTC's release...
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True, but Samsung didn't promise Desire users Gingerbread and a new version of Sense and failed to deliver.
I got the Desire based on this, and know I feel they flipped the finger, so I can't really blame OP for ditching HTC.

I'm surprised google didn't have a word with them since google set out a baseline for all phone manufacturers that each handset should get at least 18 month's of updates? Therefore google is saying the max size each version of android is gonna be and the processing power requirements! It's like the htc wildfire this will never see gingerbread as it has the same if not less memory and power than the desire! Yet its a newer phone than the desire! Or is it google just doesn't care? And is letting phone manufacturers get away with it?
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helterskelter said:
True, but Samsung didn't promise Desire users Gingerbread and a new version of Sense and failed to deliver.
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Afaik Gingerbread was delivered 6 hours behind the schedule and Sense 2.1 was never mentioned by any credible source of information, but as it seems you collect your info from the same people who scream that release on their page is beta I kind of understand where you got that.
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to give up of HTC and buy some other band with android.
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I think this would be the most plausible choice.

lordjester said:
I'm surprised google didn't have a word with them since google set out a baseline for all phone manufacturers that each handset should get at least 18 month's of updates? Therefore google is saying the max size each version of android is gonna be and the processing power requirements! It's like the htc wildfire this will never see gingerbread as it has the same if not less memory and power than the desire! Yet its a newer phone than the desire! Or is it google just doesn't care? And is letting phone manufacturers get away with it?
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If I remember Google said 18 months where hardware allows....
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Enjoy your next phone. I will also change my desire for the new SGSII. I have many problems with the desire´s motherboard.
Ciao

I love when people talk about companies "promising" something and then moan when it doesn't happen. Reminds me of the old days in the school playground...
From what I can see, HTC did thier best to deliver, but unfortunately the constraints of the device stopped them being able to do more. What do people expect them to do, come over and upgrade the memory in each phone?
Some people just want the moon on a stick.

Note to OP, it's 'so long' not 'good-bye'

Well, Just bought myself a Galaxy Nexus

Finally. I ordered a Galaxy from EBay and now I have to wait 5-6 days for it to come. So I was wondering what has happened in the Galaxy Nexus community.
Oh I got the Sprint Galaxy Nexus (Toroplus I believe)
Also I was wondering if there were any good fast and stable Jellybean Roms.
So glad to become part of the Nexus Family.

Jimlarck said:
Finally. I ordered a Galaxy from EBay and now I have to wait 5-6 days for it to come. So I was wondering what has happened in the Galaxy Nexus community.
Oh I got the Sprint Galaxy Nexus (Toroplus I believe)
Also I was wondering if there were any good fast and stable Jellybean Roms.
So glad to become part of the Nexus Family.
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how much did you buy it for? i looked at ebay and buy now price is 50-100 bucks more than what the play store offers
right now im on the amaze 4g.. and the development is horrible... it has good hardware but oh my lord HTC refuses to release kernel source for the darn device. i dont know if HTC does that for the rest of their device ughhhhhh so im reluctant to buy another device from them. should i join you fellow gnex owners?
what device did you come from? ive been looking through the dev thread for the gnex and paranoid rom looks very enticing.

itsmarkxd said:
right now im on the amaze 4g.. and the development is horrible... it has good hardware but oh my lord HTC refuses to release kernel source for the darn device. i dont know if HTC does that for the rest of their device ughhhhhh so im reluctant to buy another device from them. should i join you fellow gnex owners?
what device did you come from? ive been looking through the dev thread for the gnex and paranoid rom looks very enticing.
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Make the switch, you won't regret it. The specs on the Nexus are not only better (aside from camera and lack of sd slot) but development is light years ahead of the Amaze. There will of course be a new Nexus in the next 3-4 months, but it won't be $350 that's for sure. I came from an Amaze, and a T-Mo S2 and don't regret it one bit.
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itsmarkxd said:
how much did you buy it for? i looked at ebay and buy now price is 50-100 bucks more than what the play store offers
right now im on the amaze 4g.. and the development is horrible... it has good hardware but oh my lord HTC refuses to release kernel source for the darn device. i dont know if HTC does that for the rest of their device ughhhhhh so im reluctant to buy another device from them. should i join you fellow gnex owners?
what device did you come from? ive been looking through the dev thread for the gnex and paranoid rom looks very enticing.
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I come from the Evo 3D, came to Galaxy Nexus due to HTC not releasing the Kernel Source. Now development is dead. Oh and I got it off of eBay, it cost me $255USD with shipping. Clean ESN, light use, comes with everything that comes. The headset, the Charger, everything.

Jimlarck said:
I come from the Evo 3D, came to Galaxy Nexus due to HTC not releasing the Kernel Source. Now development is dead. Oh and I got it off of eBay, it cost me $255USD with shipping. Clean ESN, light use, comes with everything that comes. The headset, the Charger, everything.
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im not surprised with what you just said..
ugggghhh its just so irritating. they release phones with awesome specs but then you cant developed for it....
i hate it when people say "oh we'll get the latest update from cyanogen xx.xx...."
which is BULL****... considering half the time cyanogen wont ever be as refined or close to being complete on said device considering the lack of kernel source/lack of support from the manufacture... people buying non nexus devices are just being delusional. i have come to that conclusion. maybe manufacturers need to beef up the specs of their nexus device in the upcoming years
i believe the only non nexus device that i believed had a blossoming of development is the T-mobile G2\htc vision (i personally had that phone and had lots of fond moments flashing roms in)
other than that nexus all the way. i just wish htc makes the next nexus or there would be 5 of them in the future

HTC is becoming like Apple at the moment... Their One S .. non removable battery and no SD card slot.. and They won't release their damn Kernel Sources.. they discontinue any device and take a whole lot to update them. Not to mention that if you ask and tell them that there is something wrong with your device they say "Hello we are sorry to hear. If you want to try to stay up to date and see if your phone will be able to be fixed join our completely ****ty Twitter or Facebook, because we don't give a **** about you guys, you gave us money , we don't care and we just want to get more popular."
Their support is ****.

Jimlarck said:
HTC is becoming like Apple at the moment... Their One S .. non removable battery and no SD card slot.. and They won't release their damn Kernel Sources.. they discontinue any device and take a whole lot to update them. Not to mention that if you ask and tell them that there is something wrong with your device they say "Hello we are sorry to hear. If you want to try to stay up to date and see if your phone will be able to be fixed join our completely ****ty Twitter or Facebook, because we don't give a **** about you guys, you gave us money , we don't care and we just want to get more popular."
Their support is ****.
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Which is why I sold my beloved Inspire and got a Play Store Nexus. I have had it a week and LOVE IT. No more HTC for me. Ever.

itsmarkxd said:
im not surprised with what you just said..
ugggghhh its just so irritating. they release phones with awesome specs but then you cant developed for it....
i hate it when people say "oh we'll get the latest update from cyanogen xx.xx...."
which is BULL****... considering half the time cyanogen wont ever be as refined or close to being complete on said device considering the lack of kernel source/lack of support from the manufacture... people buying non nexus devices are just being delusional. i have come to that conclusion. maybe manufacturers need to beef up the specs of their nexus device in the upcoming years
i believe the only non nexus device that i believed had a blossoming of development is the T-mobile G2\htc vision (i personally had that phone and had lots of fond moments flashing roms in)
other than that nexus all the way. i just wish htc makes the next nexus or there would be 5 of them in the future
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Have to disagree with you on the "blossoming of development" part.
Have had the captivate. Which to this day. Is still going strong. And had a jellybean port before the gs3.
I had the epic touch 4g and the att gs2. Which are both still amazing phones going strong. And I am now onto the gs3 which isn't even 2 months old. (U.S release) and the number of ROMs and support for it is overwhelming.
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You guys are making me inpatient. My Galaxy Nexus won't be here until 5-6 days. So all this reading is making me happy and impatient. I really want the Galaxy nexus :'3

I actually am getting a nexus on Tuesday, coming from a Droid Incredible which has working ports of - Jelly Bean, Ice Cream Sandwich and Sense 4.
Its a device that won't die with great devs still, sense 3.5 roms were last developed by Newt/Joelz/Wildstang/Puremotive.
We had an amazing dev and community spot, its dying down as others are upgrading.
bOx Stash - https://www.box.com/shared/d8a46b7252c38069deb1

Yeah, I can see most people getting a Gnexus are HTC.

Jimlarck said:
Yeah, I can see most people getting a Gnexus are HTC.
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Like me, for example

Anyways, whats a good Rom for the Galaxy Nexus Toroplus. (sprint)
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Jimlarck said:
Yeah, I can see most people getting a Gnexus are HTC.
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High development and seems to be a great and strong community plus the nexus will be my second android phone.
I don't wanna say the nexus is the pinnacle of android phones per-say but its the one fellow nerd lovers and rioters alike will rejoice in a happy community thanks to Google and Samsung.
I honestly cannot wait to start enjoying this phone! Its big enough for my hands, my 3'7 incredible.. my hand swallows this phone and I needed a big phone.
Ahh I'm ecstatic!!!
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+1 on that bro, I can't wait for it to be here. And for fun's sake I even spent all night watching an Unboxing video. The only time I have ever touched the Galaxy nexus was in a Sprint store. I looked at the Gnex Screen, then back at mine. Mine looked ****ty compared to the Galaxy Nexus' Gorgeous Screen Resolution. It looked so beautiful. Messed with the UI and felt so smooth. And that was ICS. They say Jellybean is 5x Better than ICS. The moment I get the phone I'll root it and install a good JB Rom.
What's a good Sprint Galaxy Nexus Jellybean Rom?
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I don't know about the Sprint variant but with the Verizon version I have had great luck with Euroskank CM10 ROM.
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5 days to go
I also noticed that the people in the Nexus Community are cheerful and don't throw you off for saying something wrong. They're actually polite. Some people in the Evo 3D threads answer questions with sarcasm. As if they're perfect.
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For your first jelly bean ROM I recommend going with Bug less Beast. I'm running it right now and it is as stable as anything and I'm about three releases behind (7/19 version.) Its my first rom and its making me a root believer!
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I just got a nexus today the unlocked version. I'm debating whether I should root it since I have the stock jelly bean. I came from an iPhone 4s. This will be my second android phone though . My first was a skyrocket. I'm liking what I see so far though.

Of course you should root! The development is astounding I personally have spent many hours molding and tweaking mine and loved every minute of it. We have some of the best and most generous devs in the world
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Upgrade to a galaxy nexus?

I'm coming from an incredible 2 and was wondering if i should buy a Galaxy Nexus out right for 239$ or upgrade to a Droid DNA.
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andrewk7750 said:
I'm coming from an incredible 2 and was wondering if i should buy a Galaxy Nexus out right for 239$ or upgrade to a Droid DNA.
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Droid DNA all the way. I want one so bad. The question is really wether you want sense or AOSP.
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Just my opinion....go Nexus. No more waiting for mythical updates :/
I would expect the DNA to be just like the Inc2.....the best device upon release, but a year later its a forgotten device. Nexi are guaranteed 2 OS version updates.
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The thing i want the most is alot of dev support like the inc2 had but i heard that the DNA might be like the Rezound on the support end.
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The thing i want the most is alot of dev support like the inc2 had but i heard that the DNA might be like the Rezound on the support end.
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Understood, although, the Rez didn't have nitsuj17. The DNA will.
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I really want a DNA
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I'd wait and see if some devs hop on the DNA...

Well, I guess i'm gonna go with the Droid DNA, I'm sure it will have great dev support seeing that TeamandIRC has an unlock on it already
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Good pick

andrewk7750 said:
I'm coming from an incredible 2 and was wondering if i should buy a Galaxy Nexus out right for 239$ or upgrade to a Droid DNA.
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The DNA has non removable battery and memory.
I need way more than the 16 gigabyte it comes with.
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wmsforties said:
The DNA has non removable battery and memory.
I need way more than the 16 gigabyte it comes with.
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Well they both don't have microSD slots so you would have to spend more for the 32gb nexus
I'm so fresh you can suck my nits...

I ended up buying a Nexus. I never have really cared about the latest or greatest spec'd phone, but updates and roms are what make a phone in my opinion. I previously had an OG droid which was awesome for that. I was kind of let down with the inc2 since I got it late in the game and most developers had jumped ship already. The Nexus has a great community behind it with fast updates. Feels like home again.

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I ended up buying a Nexus. I never have really cared about the latest or greatest spec'd phone, but updates and roms are what make a phone in my opinion. I previously had an OG droid which was awesome for that. I was kind of let down with the inc2 since I got it late in the game and most developers had jumped ship already. The Nexus has a great community behind it with fast updates. Feels like home again.
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Join the club!

I recently had a Dinc2 and bought a GNex outright for 200 new. Best decision ever.
I wont buy HTC ever again, just because they dont update phones as fast. I dont know how much longer the GNex will be supported, but at least it officially runs 4.1.1 and there is no need to hack bootloaders and such.
I also prefer AOSP and love that there is minimal bloatware on the phone.
The DNA is new which is nice, but no sd card (probably all phones will go to this setup) and no removable battery. On a 4G phone? No thanks.
Oh, and I kept my unlimited data...which I dont even use that often (maybe 1 GB) but I dont like Verizon telling me to spend more and get less.

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I recently had a Dinc2 and bought a GNex outright for 200 new. Best decision ever.
I wont buy HTC ever again, just because they dont update phones as fast. I dont know how much longer the GNex will be supported, but at least it officially runs 4.1.1 and there is no need to hack bootloaders and such.
I also prefer AOSP and love that there is minimal bloatware on the phone.
The DNA is new which is nice, but no sd card (probably all phones will go to this setup) and no removable battery. On a 4G phone? No thanks.
Oh, and I kept my unlimited data...which I dont even use that often (maybe 1 GB) but I dont like Verizon telling me to spend more and get less.
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This screams me. I just wish there was a newer phone like the Galaxy Nexus.
I could go on and on about how I feel about Android phone hardware...but that is for another place, another time.
---------- Post added at 07:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:40 PM ----------
(I'm not attempting in any way to hijack this thread)
A lot of people have posted their upgrade decisions with reasons in this thread.
I've started a thread over in General that is similar to this.
It can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2017081
I would appreciate if you could post your upgrade decisions there.
I want to 'index', if you will, upgrades from the Incredible 2.
This may help people with their decisions.
Also, congrats to OP on his/her new phone!
Thanks,
[::AP::]

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This screams me. I just wish there was a newer phone like the Galaxy Nexus.
I could go on and on about how I feel about Android phone hardware...but that is for another place, another time.
Lol...it screams you?
Yeah, I dont even care if the device is a year old now. When I got my Inc2 after its year old date it was still...slow. Just not a sense fan, but the phone was free...so I win. lol.
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Coming from Sensation to SGS3

I don't think I ever been so anxious to get a phone as much as I am to get the Galaxy S3 later on this month. When I first laid my hands on it during the summer, I already knew I wanted it. I'm coming from the HTC Sensation, one of my favorite phones. Anything I should know about the Galaxy (I've done my research,know how to flash/root,etc.)?

That it's awesome, any more brain busters?
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Skip-Breezy said:
I don't think I ever been so anxious to get a phone as much as I am to get the Galaxy S3 later on this month. When I first laid my hands on it during the summer, I already knew I wanted it. I'm coming from the HTC Sensation, one of my favorite phones. Anything I should know about the Galaxy (I've done my research,know how to flash/root,etc.)?
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I just made the exact same transition. No firmware to match with ROM's, just have to match up the radio.
One of the biggest differences for me was just how thin the phone was compared to the sensation. It's tough to hold the Sensation now.

Just make sure to back up your IMEI number as soon as you get the phone and have fun there's a lot of stuff to flash here. Your in luck too, cyanogen him self owns this phone and is getting ready to release 4.2 jelly bean nightly soon.

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Just make sure to back up your IMEI number as soon as you get the phone and have fun there's a lot of stuff to flash here. Your in luck too, cyanogen him self owns this phone and is getting ready to release 4.2 jelly bean nightly soon.
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Back up the IMEI number...how to do that?

Skip-Breezy said:
Back up the IMEI number...how to do that?
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check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29461950

I made this same change just a month ago and I love the s3. One of the biggest difference is changing radios is MUCH easier, no more going into the bootloader and flashing the radio, with the s3 they are called "modems" and you flash it just like you do with a rom. Bigger screen obviously, but also better sound and volume through the speaker. WAY faster in general use, even rooted and overclocked my sensation was still slower than my underclocked s3. There are just as many if not more custom rom's for the s3 and everybody makes accessories for it.

I'm getting the GS3...just waiting to find a good holiday deal on it

Skip-Breezy said:
I'm getting the GS3...just waiting to find a good holiday deal on it
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The Sensation was a great phone though. Ahead of it's time. I was sad when I sold mine.

se1000 said:
The Sensation was a great phone though. Ahead of it's time. I was sad when I sold mine.
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as did i. but i did get pretty good resale value out of it, paid 250 and sold it for 200 after 9 or 10 months. was a really good phone but honestly, if you enjoyed your sensation you will LOVE the s3:good: