Ringer Volume, Vibrate, Silent...annoying by design? - Windows Phone 7 General

Here's a paraphrase from my wife, who is using Mango on a Samsung Focus. I couldn't answer her question, so maybe someone else can?
So I usually have my phone on vibrate, and I just turn the volume all the way down to enable vibrate.
Question is, how do I switch to completely silent?
When I use the volume button, the volume bar appears, and I can tap the icon on the far right to switch between ring, vibrate, and ring+vibrate. Where's silent?
If I go to Settings > Sounds & Ringtones, I can switch from vibrate to silent. Now, turning my volume all the way down puts the phone in silent mode, and tapping the icon on the volume bar switches between ring and silent.
Seriously? Must it be that tedious? Is there no way to have vibrate and silent both concurrent options? Can someone PLEASE explain this to me? It's driving me nuts.
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As she already discovered, you can set it in settings. I don't see why it's tedious. If you do have more choices, it wouldn't be an one click switch. As far as I can tell, my Android phone does exactly the same thing.

"Question is, how do I switch to completely silent?
When I use the volume button, the volume bar appears, and I can tap the icon on the far right to switch between ring, vibrate, and ring+vibrate. Where's silent?"
Your wife is totally right.
This is the kind of stupid details that make WP7 so annoyning on a daily basis.
You will also notice later:
- that you cannot edit forwarded emails
- that you cannot select and send a PDF document
- that you cannot delete a bunch of pictures in the picture hub
- that you cannot add 2 mobile phone numbers to a same contact
- that you cannot paste a number into the phone dialer,
etc, etc, etc....
"Annoying by design" is a good definition of WP7 indeed...

species5618w said:
As she already discovered, you can set it in settings. I don't see why it's tedious. If you do have more choices, it wouldn't be an one click switch. As far as I can tell, my Android phone does exactly the same thing.
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You're kidding right? How about each press takes you to ring -> vibrate -> silent? That's what I call not tedious! And it's still a one click switch!

arturobandini said:
"Question is, how do I switch to completely silent?
When I use the volume button, the volume bar appears, and I can tap the icon on the far right to switch between ring, vibrate, and ring+vibrate. Where's silent?"
Your wife is totally right.
This is the kind of stupid details that make WP7 so annoyning on a daily basis.
You will also notice later:
- that you cannot edit forwarded emails
- that you cannot select and send a PDF document
- that you cannot delete a bunch of pictures in the picture hub
- that you cannot add 2 mobile phone numbers to a same contact
- that you cannot paste a number into the phone dialer,
etc, etc, etc....
"Annoying by design" is a good definition of WP7 indeed...
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Dang, Arturo. And here I thought you were gonna say something good about Windows phone. Man, am I disappointed.

Peew971 said:
You're kidding right? How about each press takes you to ring -> vibrate -> silent? That's what I call not tedious! And it's still a one click switch!
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This would be ideal. Hopefully this gets implemented.

Thanks, all.
I just noticed that there is a WP7 Q&A forum. I apologize if I posted in the wrong forum...feel free to move this thread if necessary, mods.
species5618w said:
As she already discovered, you can set it in settings. I don't see why it's tedious. If you do have more choices, it wouldn't be an one click switch. As far as I can tell, my Android phone does exactly the same thing.
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This very tedious…why aren't silent and vibrate both options up front? Basically, for my options I get to have ringer and just ONE non-ringer. I can have "ringer or vibrate" OR "ringer or silent." And I have to go to settings in order to choose between those two options?
arturobandini said:
Your wife is totally right.
This is the kind of stupid details that make WP7 so annoyning on a daily basis.
You will also notice later:
- that you cannot edit forwarded emails
- that you cannot select and send a PDF document
- that you cannot delete a bunch of pictures in the picture hub
- that you cannot add 2 mobile phone numbers to a same contact
- that you cannot paste a number into the phone dialer,
etc, etc, etc....
"Annoying by design" is a good definition of WP7 indeed...
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Whoa, bro. Me, my wife and 4 other extended family members have made the switch to WP7 without looking back. I have very few gripes about the OS, and those I do I'm pretty forgiving of, new as it is. I haven't been bothered by any of those things that you were, but I can understand how they might frustrate some. I, for one, am happy to give them a little more time, because the OS experience in general WAY more than makes up for it.
This particular issue, the vibrate vs. silent issue, just seemed so obvious, that I was honestly hoping I was just being clueless and someone had an answer for me.
Peew971 said:
You're kidding right? How about each press takes you to ring -> vibrate -> silent? That's what I call not tedious! And it's still a one click switch!
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Right. Weird that this isn't already the case.
Wyn6 said:
Dang, Arturo. And here I thought you were gonna say something good about Windows phone. Man, am I disappointed.
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I take it Arturo is a notorious naysayer.

I think the killer thing is the ringer volume and media volume cannot be separated....
Normally,I set my alarm to the highest volume for the morning. Then, I'll bath and go to school.
On the way to school,I basically use headphone to listen to music...and Crap,the volume on the headphone almost hit me to deaf....

Peew971 said:
You're kidding right? How about each press takes you to ring -> vibrate -> silent? That's what I call not tedious! And it's still a one click switch!
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That's two clicks to go from ring to silent, not one. Right now, for people who don't need vibrate, it can be done in one click. You also can't go from vibrate to ring in one click. Right now, for people who don't need silent, it can also be done in one click. So basically you are punishing people who needs either vibrate or silent just so that you can go from vibrate to silent in a single click. What if I want ring and vibrate, should I have a forth choice?
I am not saying one way is necessarily better than the other, but you are making a different compromise that may not please everybody either.
Android also chose to have a two choice switch rather than three choice switch. There maybe some apps that would allow you to do it differently via a widget though.
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sylau90 said:
I think the killer thing is the ringer volume and media volume cannot be separated....
Normally,I set my alarm to the highest volume for the morning. Then, I'll bath and go to school.
On the way to school,I basically use headphone to listen to music...and Crap,the volume on the headphone almost hit me to deaf....
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Totally agree about this one. I find myself adjusting the volume all the time.
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drokkon said:
This very tedious…why aren't silent and vibrate both options up front? Basically, for my options I get to have ringer and just ONE non-ringer. I can have "ringer or vibrate" OR "ringer or silent." And I have to go to settings in order to choose between those two options?
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Unfortunately, as far as I know, that's how it stands right now.

species5618w said:
That's two clicks to go from ring to silent, not one. Right now, for people who don't need vibrate, it can be done in one click. You also can't go from vibrate to ring in one click. Right now, for people who don't need silent, it can also be done in one click. So basically you are punishing people who needs either vibrate or silent just so that you can go from vibrate to silent in a single click. What if I want ring and vibrate, should I have a forth choice?
I am not saying one way is necessarily better than the other, but you are making a different compromise that may not please everybody either.
Android also chose to have a two choice switch rather than three choice switch. There maybe some apps that would allow you to do it differently via a widget though.
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Totally agree about this one. I find myself adjusting the volume all the time.
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Unfortunately, as far as I know, that's how it stands right now.
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Have you tried emailing the author of Toggle to see if it can be added to his app? (Assuming the relevant API is available)

species5618w said:
That's two clicks to go from ring to silent, not one. Right now, for people who don't need vibrate, it can be done in one click. You also can't go from vibrate to ring in one click. Right now, for people who don't need silent, it can also be done in one click. So basically you are punishing people who needs either vibrate or silent just so that you can go from vibrate to silent in a single click. What if I want ring and vibrate, should I have a forth choice?
I am not saying one way is necessarily better than the other, but you are making a different compromise that may not please everybody either.
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So you're saying that my solution is worse than having to go to settings everytime you want to toggle vibrate and silent?
You're crazy.

Peew971 said:
So you're saying that my solution is worse than having to go to settings everytime you want to toggle vibrate and silent?
You're crazy.
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I am not saying it's worse, I am saying it's a different compromise and not necessarily a better compromise. Personally, I prefer ring and vibrate, which is not even supported in your solution unless you have a 4 choices option.
My preferred solution is to open up the APIs to developers and make the OS customizable. Unfortunately, I think that's too Android for Microsoft.

sylau90 said:
I think the killer thing is the ringer volume and media volume cannot be separated....
Normally,I set my alarm to the highest volume for the morning. Then, I'll bath and go to school.
On the way to school,I basically use headphone to listen to music...and Crap,the volume on the headphone almost hit me to deaf....
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As far as I can tell, the alarm volume is separate from the the other phone volume settings. Regardless of the volume settings, it seems to start off relatively quiet and get progressively louder as you let it go. Even with the phone on silent or vibrate, the alarm still goes off.

species5618w said:
I am not saying it's worse, I am saying it's a different compromise and not necessarily a better compromise. Personally, I prefer ring and vibrate, which is not even supported in your solution unless you have a 4 choices option.
My preferred solution is to open up the APIs to developers and make the OS customizable. Unfortunately, I think that's too Android for Microsoft.
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Um...4 choices (ring, ring+vibrate, vibrate, silent) is the ONLY way it should exist, as far as I'm concerned. I could care less whether all you use is ring and silent; if all I use is ring+vibrate and vibrate, ALL 4 options should be exposed ALL the time. You cannot convince me that allowing 4 options at a time inconveniences people so much that other people should be inconvenienced completely.

drokkon said:
Um...4 choices (ring, ring+vibrate, vibrate, silent) is the ONLY way it should exist, as far as I'm concerned. I could care less whether all you use is ring and silent; if all I use is ring+vibrate and vibrate, ALL 4 options should be exposed ALL the time. You cannot convince me that allowing 4 options at a time inconveniences people so much that other people should be inconvenienced completely.
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So you will need to click three times to go from ring to silent? Not to mention you will have to remember which comes after which. How is that any easier than click setting->ringtone->vibrate?
If you have to have 4 options, then either have two buttons (ring/silent, vibrate on/off) or have a drop down list. Either would require only 2 clicks at worst to jump between options.

species5618w said:
So you will need to click three times to go from ring to silent? Not to mention you will have to remember which comes after which. How is that any easier than click setting->ringtone->vibrate?
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Why do you have to remember which comes after which (and I don't think that would be very difficult in any case)?
I would also like to see it work this way.
Scott

species5618w said:
So you will need to click three times to go from ring to silent? Not to mention you will have to remember which comes after which. How is that any easier than click setting->ringtone->vibrate?
If you have to have 4 options, then either have two buttons (ring/silent, vibrate on/off) or have a drop down list. Either would require only 2 clicks at worst to jump between options.
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All Ring/Vibrate/Silent options should be exposed, all the time. PERIOD. You should very VERY rarely need to go into settings, and certainly not to switch between two commonly used modes.
Counting "steps" is a valid way to talk about complexity. For example, someone could say "WP7 only requires one step, long pressing the camera button, to go from standby to camera. iPhone and Android require at minimum 2 steps: unlocking the phone and tapping the camera icon."
This cannot be applied to what I'm asking for, however! Tapping up to 3 times in the SAME PLACE to toggle between 4 ring modes is NOT 1 "step" more complicated than tapping 2 times to toggle between 3 ring modes! That's like saying that the volume rocker is poorly designed because you have to click it 30 times to get from the highest volume to the lowest volume!

I'm dissapointed by options in mango. I liked far more the prvious ringer or vibrate. I'mean why should i ever want an option to ring without vibrate. Thats a personal choice and let it be sationary, it belongs into settings menu.
About sound levels, I agree, that ringers / notifications should have sepperate controll, sth like nokia phones have, like 5 levels and thats it. And they should fix the bug if there is appointment notification in calendar then alarm clock does not work...

It's the little niggles that annoy people the most
Fortunately they're probably the easiest to fix
Hopefully this will be changed in an update, like saving camera settings was. I'd like to be able to click the icon when you press the volume rocker to go Ring and Vibrate, Vibrate AND then Silent.

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[Q] Where did my Silent go!

Ok so I know my way around a phone or too so I think this should be obvious but please if you can help me out here. I recently purchased the HTC Surround which I am beyond happy about, fantastic phone. However this seems to be an OS question more than phone.
I haven't found a simple way to have the Silent mode on without going to settings and disabling the Vibrate function. With Vibrate turned on if you hold down the volume key until 0 it switches to vibrate and there is no way of getting to full Silent mode. Can anyone help me with this if I am just missing something obvious here.
Thank you in advance
i don't think there is a silent mode as of yet. also, when you hit volume, you don't have to bring it all the way to 0, you can merely tap the icon on the right and it will flick between ring and viberate. though the problem with doing this i've found is that when you go into a game, the game still utilises the sound which i found a bit strange.
jewill00 said:
Ok so I know my way around a phone or too so I think this should be obvious but please if you can help me out here. I recently purchased the HTC Surround which I am beyond happy about, fantastic phone. However this seems to be an OS question more than phone.
I haven't found a simple way to have the Silent mode on without going to settings and disabling the Vibrate function. With Vibrate turned on if you hold down the volume key until 0 it switches to vibrate and there is no way of getting to full Silent mode. Can anyone help me with this if I am just missing something obvious here.
Thank you in advance
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It's a bit annoying, but you'll have to go into ringtones and sounds in the settings and turn vibrate OFF. Then, when you go down to 0 it will be silent. You'll have to change vibrate back to ON when you want it back.
is there a way to set text messages and emails to vibrate? i haven't seen this in the emulator.
nat1 said:
is there a way to set text messages and emails to vibrate? i haven't seen this in the emulator.
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if you set the phone's profile to viberate, it quiets all the OS' built in notifications and typing and that. it does not however quiet apps/games sounds. only way to do that is drop the volume itself.
what i mean is on the normal volume profile can i sent a ring tone for calls, and vibrate for texts and emails?
not at present. it's still very simple on/off stuff for most, hopefully MS really goes through each section of the OS and brings it to the level of what is expected in high end phones.
Not an answer to the ops question, but if you press the down volume button, you can then click the "ring" icon and it will cycle between ring and vibrate (I would have expected silent there too)
Gordon.

Jelly Bean & vibrate for notifications

Has anyone else noticed volume settings are even worse then they were for ICS? Not only are ringer + notification volumes still linked, Google even linked the system volume to them now as well. And more annoying: how on earth does one disable vibrate for notifications? The only setting to control vibrate I seem to have is "vibrate when ringing" in the sound menu. Unchecking this one does nothing for notifications.
I use Audiomanager Pro for my sound profiles, and the vibrate options you can set for each profile have no effect. The only way to disable vibrate seems to be to enable silent mode. But I don't want that, when I'm at home my GNEX lies on my desk in the room and I simply do not want it to vibrate for ringer & notifications.
Or am I somehow overlooking something really obvious here?
It is a pain in the a$$ but I found a pretty cool solution. Might not be what you were looking for but "easy profiles" in the market will let you unlink all those. It has a 2 week full trial. You can even reinstall the trial again if you want. Plus it allows all kinds of triggers and rules etc. Almost like tasker ... except for notifications.
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So, if you're looking to control the vibrations for each app, any application that supports notifications should have a setting inside it with semi-fine-grain controls for notifications. These controls will generally allow you to specify whether you want a sound or vibration notification, and when to initiate them. For example, in Gmail->settings->[your email]->vibrate & ringtone there is a setting called "vibrate" in which you can specify if you would always like a vibration, only while in silent mode, or never. Hopefully this answers your question.
pinke123 said:
So, if you're looking to control the vibrations for each app, any application that supports notifications should have a setting inside it with semi-fine-grain controls for notifications. These controls will generally allow you to specify whether you want a sound or vibration notification, and when to initiate them. For example, in Gmail->settings->[your email]->vibrate & ringtone there is a setting called "vibrate" in which you can specify if you would always like a vibration, only while in silent mode, or never. Hopefully this answers your question.
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Thanks for the reply but it doesn't I'm afraid. I know you can control notification settings per app, but doing so for 10+ apps every time I want to temporarily disable notification vibrate sort of defeats the purpose. What I want is a Gingerbread like setting for vibrate for notifications: one setting to disable/enable vibrate for notifications that overrides individual app settings.
I'm beginning to think Google simply does not want to allow such settings any more, but I'm surprised not more users are annoyed by this. Linking volumes was a bad call, but removing control regarding vibrate settings is an even worse one imho.
Petrovski80 said:
Thanks for the reply but it doesn't I'm afraid. I know you can control notification settings per app, but doing so for 10+ apps every time I want to temporarily disable notification vibrate sort of defeats the purpose. What I want is a Gingerbread like setting for vibrate for notifications: one setting to disable/enable vibrate for notifications that overrides individual app settings.
I'm beginning to think Google simply does not want to allow such settings any more, but I'm surprised not more users are annoyed by this. Linking volumes was a bad call, but removing control regarding vibrate settings is an even worse one imho.
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I just updated my Nexus S to Jelly Bean and was very sad to discover this problem. Previously, I could use Audio Manager Pro to control whether notifications vibrated or not (both with volume on and off). Now, Audio Manager Pro's vibration settings seem to do nothing. I have to go into the individual app's notification settings to choose whether it vibrates or not. As you said, with multiple apps, this is unacceptable.
I emailed the Audio Manager dev to point this flaw out. I'm not sure if it is an unfixable Jelly Bean deficiency or if the Audio Manager app just needs to be updated. But I surely hope it is the latter and not the former.
I have to hand it to RIM... one thing they had right was notifications profiles built into the OS that were vastly superior to anything I've seen on Android or iOS. And the notification LED. It still blows my mind that more Android devices don't have a bright, visible notification LED.
chrikenn said:
I just updated my Nexus S to Jelly Bean and was very sad to discover this problem. Previously, I could use Audio Manager Pro to control whether notifications vibrated or not (both with volume on and off). Now, Audio Manager Pro's vibration settings seem to do nothing. I have to go into the individual app's notification settings to choose whether it vibrates or not. As you said, with multiple apps, this is unacceptable.
I emailed the Audio Manager dev to point this flaw out. I'm not sure if it is an unfixable Jelly Bean deficiency or if the Audio Manager app just needs to be updated. But I surely hope it is the latter and not the former.
I have to hand it to RIM... one thing they had right was notifications profiles built into the OS that were vastly superior to anything I've seen on Android or iOS. And the notification LED. It still blows my mind that more Android devices don't have a bright, visible notification LED.
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Yes I totally agree regarding the profiles you can set on BlackBerry devices. I also emailed the dev of audiomanager, hopefully the jelly bean API still allows more control over vibrate than the Android settings menu suggests.
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AUGH I just clued into this tonight after weeks on JB. I can't find any way to globally disable all vibrations at night. What the hell was Google thinking? Now I might have to put the damn thing on airplane mode just to get some freaking sleep.
Yeah it looks like we need need to live with this or flash a ROM that has modified sound/vibration settings to a normally usable level (read: the Gingerbread implementation).
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For now, my compromise is to set Tasker to disable account sync when the phone is both face down and plugged in. Since Gmail is the most common source of vibration, it should do the trick. In the morning when I flipped it over and woke it, my e-mails came in about 5 seconds.
cmstlist said:
For now, my compromise is to set Tasker to disable account sync when the phone is both face down and plugged in. Since Gmail is the most common source of vibration, it should do the trick. In the morning when I flipped it over and woke it, my e-mails came in about 5 seconds.
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Wtf was Google thinking? First linking ringer and notification volumes. Now making it near impossible to control vibration globally with a profiles app.
Google is really moving backwards in this area and I can think of no reasonable explanation as to why.
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chrikenn said:
Wtf was Google thinking? First linking ringer and notification volumes. Now making it near impossible to control vibration globally with a profiles app.
Google is really moving backwards in this area and I can think of no reasonable explanation as to why.
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Exactly. It's a mystery what problem the Google devs think they needed to fix. Gingerbread handled volumes and vibration just fine. Don't fix what isn't broken.
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chrikenn said:
Wtf was Google thinking? First linking ringer and notification volumes. Now making it near impossible to control vibration globally with a profiles app.
Google is really moving backwards in this area and I can think of no reasonable explanation as to why.
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They were asked about this at Google I/O, supposedly it was too confusing for some users. They basically avoided a response when it was brought up how it is now impossible to set, for example, navigation and music to both have comfortable volumes at the same time. It's like they know it sucks but they still won't fix it, it kind of pissed me off when I was watching it.
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They were asked about this at Google I/O, supposedly it was too confusing for some users. They basically avoided a response when it was brought up how it is now impossible to set, for example, navigation and music to both have comfortable volumes at the same time. It's like they know it sucks but they still won't fix it, it kind of pissed me off when I was watching it.
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Would it be possible for a custom ROM, say AOKP or CM10, to revert the vibration and volume behaviours back to being more like they were in GB?
pfmiller said:
They were asked about this at Google I/O, supposedly it was too confusing for some users. They basically avoided a response when it was brought up how it is now impossible to set, for example, navigation and music to both have comfortable volumes at the same time. It's like they know it sucks but they still won't fix it, it kind of pissed me off when I was watching it.
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Oh I somehow missed that. Bad argumentation imho. If you can understand how 3 volume sliders (ICS/JB) work, you don't suddenly get confused if there are 5 sliders (GB). All this does is annoy people who want to control individual volumes. Restricting them by linking is *not* a usability improvement because it's less confusing.
"Three sliders? Ok, I got it". "Five sliders? ZOMG I'm confused!"
Google should have made it at least possible to unlink in 'advanced settings' or something. Heck I'd be happy to edit a bulky.config file if that would unlink.
cmstlist said:
Would it be possible for a custom ROM, say AOKP or CM10, to revert the vibration and volume behaviours back to being more like they were in GB?
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AOKP and CM have the volumes unlinked, according to the specs and users on XDA. I'm guessing it's also possible to get the 'old' vibration behavior back as well. However I'm very happy with vanilla android, and flashing a custom rom just to get this one issue fixed always seemed overkill to me. But as soon as CM10 gets in a more stable state, I just might flash it.
turn off vibrate alerts in Jellybean - I fixed it
dunno how I missed something so simple but I service provider was able to help me fix the problem of the vibrate settings being on for all alerts and ringtones. for the ringtone, its in advanced settings and you can uncheck vibrate there. for the other apps, you have to go into the settings via the app not via the phone settings>apps and do it for each app, so for example, I use go chat for text messages, so I had to go into the app itself and then go to its settings and then turn off vibrate, same for email and facebook. and it worked, its fixed.
Yeah but that's still useless for those of us who just want to toggle all vibration at once, especially with an automated program like Tasker.
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Yeah but that's still useless for those of us who just want to toggle all vibration at once, especially with an automated program like Tasker.
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Have you tried Sound Manager from the market? It allows you to set vibrate for all notifications via the advanced menu.
I have to be honest that I only tried this in cm10 and in stock ics. I expect it to work in stock jb too.
Mr_Q said:
Have you tried Sound Manager from the market? It allows you to set vibrate for all notifications via the advanced menu.
I have to be honest that I only tried this in cm10 and in stock ics. I expect it to work in stock jb too.
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No it does not work in stock JB. CM10 must have put back what Google got rid of. There is no more global vibrate toggle in stock JB.
I'm a little late on this one...
- slide down the "notification bar" from the top
- 3rd icon from the left ("speaker")
- this button has three states (ringtone / no ringtone + vibration / no ringtone + no vibration)
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another option:
- keep the power button pressed
- select one of the above mentioned sound options at the bottom
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schemo
schemogroby said:
I'm a little late on this one...
- slide down the "notification bar" from the top
- 3rd icon from the left ("speaker")
- this button has three states (ringtone / no ringtone + vibration / no ringtone + no vibration)
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another option:
- keep the power button pressed
- select one of the above mentioned sound options at the bottom
regards,
schemo
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Sorry what you're describing has nothing to do with the feature Google removed. This is about the ability to globally disable vibration, independently from sound. None of the options you listed include "sound on, vibrate off".
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Help! Can't seperate Ringer and Notifications volumes

Under settings / sound / volumes. I have "use ringer volume for notifications" un-checked, but whenever I make a change to either one, they both change. It's really annoying as I don't want to be woken up at night just because someone texted or emailed me. Any help is greatly appreciated. Just to add... I can move the sliders independently, but as soon as I tap "done" and use the volume button to change volumes or go back into settings the ringer and notification sliders are matched up again. I'm on stock ,s-off, unlocked.
Why don't you just use the 'do not disturb' switch or set the profile to 'silent'?
ashyx said:
Why don't you just use the 'do not disturb' switch or set the profile to 'silent'?
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because I still need the phone to ring during the night. Also during the day I keep the ringer volume at full, but having notifications at full vol gets annoying pretty quick. I just want to know if HTC has tied them together even tho that particular box is uncheked.
No, it works ok here.
jcp2 said:
because I still need the phone to ring during the night. Also during the day I keep the ringer volume at full, but having notifications at full vol gets annoying pretty quick. I just want to know if HTC has tied them together even tho that particular box is uncheked.
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I don't know why it doesn't seperate the two, it works fine on my phone, but the Do not disturb isn't such a bad idea.
If you need it to ring during the night(For whatever reason, emergency?) why not add the numbers allowed to call you during the DnD period to the exception list, that way it'll ring through even if you have DnD on?

HTC 10 and Wear silent mode not dnd

So I've just received my HTC 10. Got it as a gift and it's an upgrade from my Galaxy S6. There is a lot to like, but I've found some very annoying things that I seem unable to solve. Like not being able to edit the Quick Settings and the reason for opening this thread: no way of turning off sound AND vibration while using a an Android Wear watch.
On my S6 I was able to simply turn down the volume until it went to vibrate and then press volume down again. That way the phone was entirely silent and only my watch would vibrate. Not so with the 10. It'll either vibrate or it goes to Do-Not-Disturb mode meaning my watch doesn't vibrate anymore either.
It's extremely annoying as I'm often in meetings with my phone on the table in silent mode. That way I get notifications on my wrist while the phone is silent. Now I'm forced to put everything to silent and miss calls and messages as a result. It totally defeats the purpose of having the watch for notifications.
As I got the phone from HTC I wanted to hold off from rooting it, but it looks like it's either that or going back to the S6. Am I doing something something wrong/not finding the right settings or did HTC just forget?
Thanks in advance for your reply!
Thijsvr said:
So I've just received my HTC 10. Got it as a gift and it's an upgrade from my Galaxy S6. There is a lot to like, but I've found some very annoying things that I seem unable to solve. Like not being able to edit the Quick Settings and the reason for opening this thread: no way of turning off sound AND vibration while using a an Android Wear watch.
On my S6 I was able to simply turn down the volume until it went to vibrate and then press volume down again. That way the phone was entirely silent and only my watch would vibrate. Not so with the 10. It'll either vibrate or it goes to Do-Not-Disturb mode meaning my watch doesn't vibrate anymore either.
It's extremely annoying as I'm often in meetings with my phone on the table in silent mode. That way I get notifications on my wrist while the phone is silent. Now I'm forced to put everything to silent and miss calls and messages as a result. It totally defeats the purpose of having the watch for notifications.
As I got the phone from HTC I wanted to hold off from rooting it, but it looks like it's either that or going back to the S6. Am I doing something something wrong/not finding the right settings or did HTC just forget?
Thanks in advance for your reply!
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Yeah, this is weird from HTC. On previous devices the silent setting would work exactly like the Galaxy S6 one. It's strange that in the 10 it goes straight to DND mode.
As a workaround, if you don't want to root, you can tweak DND Mode to allow every notification through and get it on the smartwatch as well. This is not ideal, especially if you want to use DND mode for what it's meant...
VictorC said:
Yeah, this is weird from HTC. On previous devices the silent setting would work exactly like the Galaxy S6 one. It's strange that in the 10 it goes straight to DND mode.
As a workaround, if you don't want to root, you can tweak DND Mode to allow every notification through and get it on the smartwatch as well. This is not ideal, especially if you want to use DND mode for what it's meant...
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Thanks
Unfortunately I also use DND often so this is not an ideal solution, but it'll have to do for now
HTC uses the same idea as Nexus device now, since HTC A9, which means the sound profile has only : normal, vibrate, and DND, no silent mode anymore; and the notification panel also followed Nexus, but don't worry, in Android N you can change quick settings in notification panel, just need to wait for 5 months.
Also, you can set up some apps, treat them as priority, so that they may go through. I don't use smart watch so I could be wrong. But this is just a problem about habit, once you get used to it, everything's fine.
Thijsvr said:
..this is not an ideal solution, but it'll have to do for now
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What about such not an ideal solution as setting ringtone Silent.. hmm.. ??
Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..
jauhien said:
What about such not an ideal solution as setting ringtone Silent.. hmm.. ??
Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..
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The phone also vibrates on messages and emails. There are multiple work arounds, but none as quick as just turning down the volume and have your phone be silent. I don't want to dive into settings everytime I walk into a meeting.
Thijsvr said:
The phone also vibrates on messages and emails. There are multiple work arounds, but none as quick as just turning down the volume and have your phone be silent. I don't want to dive into settings everytime I walk into a meeting.
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you don't need to dive into the settings,
1: drag down the quick settings and tap on DND, only 2 steps;
2: press and hold volume down button, when switched to vibrates mode, tap on the bell icon, also only 2 steps.
Alpert3 said:
you don't need to dive into the settings,
1: drag down the quick settings and tap on DND, only 2 steps;
2: press and hold volume down button, when switched to vibrates mode, tap on the bell icon, also only 2 steps.
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I meant to do the settings where you change the priority mode settings each time you want the phone to be silent, but don't want DND on etc.

Notifications get stuck on silent

I put my Note 10+ on silent at night and it's on vibrate when I'm at work.
When I put it back on sound via the pull down panel, often the notifications do not go back to full sound which is rather annoying.
Is this a known issue?
Personally, I use "Bixby Routines" to set the locations where phone is on silent/vibration and on sound.
The volumes stay as they were when it changes and it works seamlessly.
Like you said, at workwhere I need it silent, it uses GPS to determine where I am and changes to vibrate , when I walk through the door at home it turns all sound back on.
Neat little feature that is hidden on the phone like soooo many awesome things...
ultramag69 said:
Personally, I use "Bixby Routines"
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Thanks for the tip. I will definitely explore this. I have a lot to learn after 3 years with Huawei.
Walton_Melb said:
Thanks for the tip. I will definitely explore this. I have a lot to learn after 3 years with Huawei.
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LOL, it's a new feature exclusive to Note 10/10+...
Tried to install Bixby Routines onto the Note 9 but it fails...
To find little nuggets of information and awesome features, youtube is your friend... 90% you may already know but there are always little surprises there too, like how to send an sms at a certain time even if you don't have your phone with you. Good for espionage... Also you can set a reminder from a received sms to sound at a certain time and the message will show up on the screen again.
Always learning....
I have this same problem. It's rather annoying
I have a similar issue, but, in my case ALL notifications sound, except gmail, I've been trying anything that I could think of to no avail, I finally gave up and made a macro to sound when a gmail arrives, it's just a work around, but works
Same issue when using Volume buttons and Bixby Routine
Please let me know when someone figures this out. It is rather frustrating! So when I use Bixby Routine it knows the location of my workplace and automatically changes my phone to vibrate mode and when I leave work it changes the sound to turn back on. The only issue is that everything goes back to normal (ringtone, media, system, Bixby voice) except for notifications!
Even if I adjust my phone using just the volume buttons instead of the Bixby routine it would change everything to vibrate but when I change it back the notification sound is the only thing that stays silent while everything else goes back to the setting I originally had it at.
Ugh... I already cleared my cache with the physical button I thought it worked but it went back to doing the same thing...

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