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hi all
i recently asked a retailer about the price for the arc and acr S recently ( dunno why but o have the urge to do so and i did ) he said the price for ARC is RM1000 and ARC S is RM 1300 which is surprisingly cheap ..and i do love the phone ..never seen anyone used it but i looks gorgeous in videos ...i just bought a galaxy ACE about a month ago and i am planning to change one at the end of the year at december ...so should i get the arc ? i know it have some crappy processors and low ram but i want to hear some opinion for the users ...is it worth the RM 1000? and i do expect the price to drop to RM800 at the end of the year ...
Look wise, the arc is top tier, hands down. I guess it really ties down to what you expect out of your phone. Personally, a phone to me is to remain a phone and not a mini laptop, so the specs of the Arc S is good enough for me. It's fast enough to do everything that I want; stream videos, browse the internet, call/email/text etc. All those hype about new phones, dual cores and etc, what is the purpose exactly? It loads a page faster in 1 sec? Ridiculous. Didn't mean to rant haha, but yeah. If you want a phone that stands out and looks good and is good for everyday use, I would recommend getting the Arc/S. Not to mention, the Camera is awesome.
Hey tohno,nice seeing u here brick guy. Im using arc s rite now n lovin it. Anyway i bought mine from a guy who just used it for two months at rm900. Its used but the guy is new with android n havent mod anything yet so i think its fair if i said that it come fresh from the shop
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I say it doesn't worth it, now you have new Sony phones, hTC and many.
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A medium-high performance phone, with excellent camera and versatile multimedia functions, paired with large high resolution phone for low price? Damn yeah it's worth it!
Buy Arc S
Buy Arc S ...
Great phone ...
Bought one on the launch date itself ...
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sweet! then i think i will eye for the arc s then!
oh hi malice!
I bought mine 'cause it was on Special + 50€ cash back. So i got it for 350€ in last July.
Love it except the screen which is too weak. And now it is quite weak for new apps.
I'm looking to get a Nexus in a couple of month. But since i unlocked my bootloader I really enjoy it more.
This is definitely not a waste of money.
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Love it except the screen which is too weak. And now it is quite weak for new apps.
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Screen is strong enough and there are no new apps that I am aware of that require a certain screen strength...
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Screen is strong enough and there are no new apps that I am aware of that require a certain screen strength...
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My screen has a broken line on the left side. It has been always carried in a leather holder.
Try to play GTA3 with the arc.
It is a good phone but it is (a bit) outdated.
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Please don't buy neither Arc nor Arc S, you will face some very depressing problems with these phones, as Arc user I don't suggest this phone because of very poor quality of the phone. You maybe extra careful with your phone but you won't avoid housing crack, scratched screen and body damages. Housing crack appears on almost all Xperia Arc phones, as for screen I would say, its very bright and high quality but, it is not gorilla glass, and you can scratch it by mistake for example when cleaning, as I did. As for body I would say that design is very sexy but you will notice small dots around the screen, and on the back panel, paint gets peeled. My advice, hold the phone in vacuum or wait for Xperia S!
MAX--K said:
My screen has a broken line on the left side. It has been always carried in a leather holder.
Try to play GTA3 with the arc.
It is a good phone but it is (a bit) outdated.
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Ah, so you need an enhanced durability screen because you are a passionate GTA3 player... Ok, got it!
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I still prefer the thinner look of the arc...
(is that a racoon above me ??? !!!)
giorgobiani554 said:
Please don't buy neither Arc nor Arc S, you will face some very depressing problems with these phones, as Arc user I don't suggest this phone because of very poor quality of the phone. You maybe extra careful with your phone but you won't avoid housing crack, scratched screen and body damages. Housing crack appears on almost all Xperia Arc phones, as for screen I would say, its very bright and high quality but, it is not gorilla glass, and you can scratch it by mistake for example when cleaning, as I did. As for body I would say that design is very sexy but you will notice small dots around the screen, and on the back panel, paint gets peeled. My advice, hold the phone in vacuum or wait for Xperia S!
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Remove the shutter proof thing.
Did it 3 months ago and no scratches!
@ OP:
If you want it, get it now!
By the end of the year it will be totally outdated, well, it is already somehow.
Looking forward to the Galaxy S III or a Sony with Snapdragon S4 as the Arc gets too slow after a few days of uptime
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Great phone!
This phone is great! In poland he cost 1300 PLN, this is not too big price for that phone. He have great camera (720p Video [i record a video with friends and that camera have really good quality, better than both normal cameras]).
I did, I removed but as I said scratched with cleaning cloth
giorgobiani554 said:
Please don't buy neither Arc nor Arc S, you will face some very depressing problems with these phones, as Arc user I don't suggest this phone because of very poor quality of the phone. You maybe extra careful with your phone but you won't avoid housing crack, scratched screen and body damages. Housing crack appears on almost all Xperia Arc phones, as for screen I would say, its very bright and high quality but, it is not gorilla glass, and you can scratch it by mistake for example when cleaning, as I did. As for body I would say that design is very sexy but you will notice small dots around the screen, and on the back panel, paint gets peeled. My advice, hold the phone in vacuum or wait for Xperia S!
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Really? I didnt know...cause i have dropoed my arc so.many times...i have slept over it, i aint using a screen protector, still the screen is fine! Its quite durable mate! The only problem is..it gets really slow sometimes! So even i wouldn't suggest to purchase arc. But i still love it <3:-D
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well i am actually of buying this phone cause of the relatively cheap price...i just got my ace just a month ago but seeing the arc's cheap price i just can't resist to buy it...and by the end of the year i think arc s will be below RM1000 by then it's a sure buy ..i cant afford high end phones ( expensive ones at least ) like S2 ( it's too common!! ) , sensation etc ...
If I were you, I would buy LG Optimus 2X instead. It has Tegra 2 chipset and a dual-core processor. That makes it much better phone. Cons are it doesn't have as good camera, and the screen is a bit smaller(4.2 > 4.0).
Here in Switzerland it is even cheaper.
I've my arc s for close to 5 months and I do not regret it. It's camera is one of the best among the smart phones for the price of it. When my friend who own the iPhone 4 took the same night scene with my arc, the arc's capture the scene very well, not too bright or too dark -- like what the iPhone does.
Responsiveness is reasonably fast even though it's not rooted. Depending on how you handle the phone, mine is still scratch-free and beautiful. No cracks. The factory screen does trap specks of dust quite easily, but this can be avoided if you apply another matte filter over it.
The phone is light and still able to fit into my pocket despite it's 4+ inch screen. The big screen makes it comfortable to browse webs, watch videos and play games.
What I find a nuisance in the arc is the small internal memory capacity, which means you'll have to be selective in the apps you store in the phone.
Definitely worth buying & keeping if you're a light to medium-usage user.
Good luck in your choice!
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I will post this in both Galaxy s3 sections because people need to know. This is a good read to know about their misleading advertising that their employee uncovered (unintentionally?) for me.
I am sorry I do not have any photos, because my camera just cant pick up the issues correctly...
I suggest to stay away from this product. It is not like the original invisibleshield.
It is very smooth, which is better than the original, but IT IS NOT DURABLE! The slightest pressure by my fingernail left an indent that has not gone away. I tried the same thing on my brother's original invisibleshield on his HTC Desire and it would not even leave an indent in the first place. If it flexed a little bit, it would heal itself right away.
My screen looks like I have been using the phone for 2 years! and I BABY the phone. Has always been in a case (which does not touch the screen), never shares my pocket with anything else, is face down in my pocket, hasnt been dropped yet (knock on wood) and have not bumped anything into the screen. I do not use a stylus.
I have had the protector on since June 27th and there are many indentations on the screen! It dents extremely easily and it does NOT HEAL.
I have been going back and forth with a Zagg employee in customer service and I will show the correspondence here, but I will remove his/her name.
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I have a new Samsung Galaxy s3 and I am wondering what the difference is between the regular invisible shield and the HD. I bought the HD and have had it installed for about 4 days now. It is very smooth which I like, but my brother has a standard invisibleshield on his HTC Desire and although it is not quite as smooth, it does not show any scratches.
The InvisibleShield HD shows scratches quite easily. I applied very light pressure with my fingernail to the corner and there was an indent. It still has not gone away since 3 days. On my brothers device, there is no indent shown as all with the same amount of pressure from my fingernail.
It seems to be less durable and more prone to damage, yet a higher price.
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Thank you for contacting ZAGG, where we are Zealous About Great Gadgets! My name is Luis and I appreciate the opportunity to assist you.
Thank you for the purchase of the invisibleSHIELD. I'd like to confirm that the HD is a thinner than the original, which helps with the smoothness and clarity. However, due to the same fact, it does not absorb impact or scratches as well as the original invisibleSHIELD. It still has the original's ability to repair itself but it will take longer to do so. Furthermore, we normally recommend not to asses the quality of any invisibleSHIELD until after a couple of weeks from installation, if it was successful. This is because the adhesive is still curing on to the surface of your phone and may be more prone do damage. If the adhesive is disturbed while it's drying, it will most likely stay that way.
I would recommend to allow an extra week to determine whether or not your invisibleSHIELD will need to be replaced, which is very likely due to the curing procedure your invisibleSHIELD has endured. If so, you may place a warranty request to have a new one sent to you.
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I don't really see with what the surface of the screen protector has to do with the adhesive. The indents left in the screen protector are from absolute minimal pressure. I don't see how you are charging a premium for this product when in 2 weeks the screen will look horrendous being covered in indents.
Making it thinner but HIGHLY susceptible to indents is a terrible idea. I have also looked online briefly and I'm not the only one with this issue with the HD.
Zagg is generally known with quality products but this is crazy. A SCREEN PROTECTOR that can't withstand the smallest of pressure/contact/impact. Can you imagine if someone uses a stylus on here? I it would look like an ice rink after a week of crowds skating on it.
This product was not well thought through and I hope it is either redesigned or not made any more. My brand new phone and screen protector looks like I've owned it for over a year. (and I baby my phones. They never share a pocket with anything else, always use a case) for I have no idea how these marks could have even managed to get on there with that being said. I know only one I made on purpose to test it and it's at the bottom away from the screen, but there are many other marks on the screen. I hope it's not the COTTON FIBRES from my pocket making them...
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I am sorry to hear that you feel this way. However, it is unreasonable to compare different products and expect them to perform the same as others when they are in a different category. Different products are introduced to the market to satisfy different customers and provide a wider range of protection products. There will never be a "one-size-fits-all" product from any company.
To further elaborate on the adhesive part, if you were to remove part of the adhesive, you will see a noticeable line/scratch on the bottom (adhesive) side of the invisibleSHIELD because the adhesive has been removed/disturbed/stretched. As mentioned, the invisibleSHIELD is more vulnerable to damage while it is still drying.
We have also been selling the HD invisibleSHIELD for the iPhone 4/4S and iPad 3 (3rd Gen) with great success. In the iPad 3, it is not uncommon for customers to use fine stylus, such as the JOT stylus, which has a fine point.
I believe that the reason why you are not completely satisfied with the invisibleSHIELD you own is because you are comparing it to other products, as stated. However, if you are not happy with it, I would recommend seeking assistance from the retailer it was purchased from and inquiring about their return process.
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First off I want to address your comment of "There will never be a "one-size-fits-all" product from any company. " I guess you have not heard of SGP? They Flex HD wet applicator is incredibly clear and smooth..and THIN. There are many products that are just as smooth and "glass-like" as the HD, without warping to the slightest contact. Also many other screen protector brands are excellent, from Rearth, to Ghost Armour, and on, and on.
Your interpretation seems to be that, there is no "one size fits all" because your new HD is very weak and you pretty much admitted that when you said, "Thank you for the purchase of the invisibleSHIELD. I'd like to confirm that the HD is a thinner than the original, which helps with the smoothness and clarity. However, due to the same fact, it does not absorb impact or scratches as well as the original invisibleSHIELD."
Also, this insults me even more when you tell me that, " it is unreasonable to compare different products and expect them to perform the same as others when they are in a different category"
I am surely not comparing products in a different category and I'm shocked to even see you write that... They ARE in the same category unless Zagg is magically creating their own category. It is in a wet application screen protector category. ACCORDING TO YOU though, the difference is that... its weaker... because its thinner.
That is even more interesting and let me tell you why.
Here is a link to ZAGGs post on THEIR website - http://www.zagg.com/community/blog/...-for-iphone-and-ipad-with-an-invisible-video/
Look familiar?
"We took the original invisibleSHIELD, improved the clarity, and added a glass-like surface."
Ive spent over an hour searching online through various sources and nowhere does it mention the fact that it does not absorb impact or scratches as well as the original IS. Yes the fact that is is thin is mentioned, but that fact alone should not lead someone to assume that this MORE EXPENSIVE and new product is any WEAKER than the original. If its weaker but clearer/smoother... it should be the same price!
ON SECOND HAND lets take a look at my box for the invisibleshield HD !
"THE invisibleSHIELD HD DELIVERS THE SAME PATENTED, AWARD-WINNING, AND VIRTUALLY INDESTRUCTIBLE PROTECTIVE FILM AS THE ORIGINAL PATENTED invisibleSHIELD, WITH PREMIUM FEATURES INCLUDING ADVANCED CLARITY AND A GLASS-LIKE SURFACE."
Wow, I may have just stepped on my own toes there, it does not even mention that it is thinner! Also in HUGE letters above that it says "THE ORIGINAL, MILITARY GRADE FILM NOW IN HD"
It says its the SAME FILM as the ORIGINAL, but with PREMIUM features (clarity, smoothness). This is misleading advertising at its best.
Keep in mind I purchased the shield based on reading the box in the store, and now after the fact I am searching online and still doesn't really help ZAGGs case.
What else does it say on the box? SCRATCH PROOF
It also mentions that if its ever damaged, it will be replaced for the life of the product. I think scratches/indents are considered damage and since my first email, this thing has nearly twice as many issues with it now.
I laugh at the same "nano-memory technology" on this packaging which is what you advertised on the original IS as well because NONE of the marks have gone away.
Also, interestingly enough, there is no mention of what you told me, "This is because the adhesive is still curing on to the surface of your phone and may be more prone do damage. If the adhesive is disturbed while it's drying, it will most likely stay that way."
Seriously? You dont mention that to the consumers? So this terrible screen protector will always look terrible now, You want us to leave the phone is a protective box for over a week allowing it to cure? That never happened with the original IS. This is the worst advertising for a product.
This is nothing against YOU because you did not manufacture or create the product packaging and advertising (that I know of), and you did shed some light on the misleading nature of this product for me, but don't tell me this is in a different category and that its not fair to compare to your original IS. Thats insulting my intelligence. I can read the packaging of the product sitting here in front of me that claims, again, ""THE invisibleSHIELD HD DELIVERS THE SAME PATENTED, AWARD-WINNING, AND VIRTUALLY INDESTRUCTIBLE PROTECTIVE FILM AS THE ORIGINAL PATENTED invisibleSHIELD, WITH PREMIUM FEATURES INCLUDING ADVANCED CLARITY AND A GLASS-LIKE SURFACE."
It CLEARLY says its the same, original film, but with added features. That would mean its in the same category, or if you want to play the category game, it would be in a premium category BASED ON THE PACKAGING AND ADVERTISING since it does not mention that it is weaker.
I was going to just return this to BestBuy and get them to refund the difference and just go with the original invisbleshield, but because of our correspondence which has made me look closer at the brand and its advertising for this product, I refuse to support this product. I will get a refund and purchase a better, wet protector applicator with glass like smoothness, military grade, great clarity, at a better price, and that will not indent like play-doh - and trust me, there are enough choices for this CATEGORY of screen protector on the market.
ps. this is not an isolated incidence, I have a friend who also purchased this and agrees with me.
pps. Your comment about your Apple products - if they have the same HD material that the Galaxy s3 has, I find it hard to believe that theirs arent weak as well. Although at the same time, people I know with Apple products dont really complain about any accessory they buy for them even when they break in the first week or have other faults.
I will be making these issues publicly known and voicing my displeasure with the brand and product.
Thank you and have a good day.
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Well this is an interesting post I just read through the whole thing and I have an Inivsa HD on my SGS3 and I have loved it. I just tried to rape it with my fingernail and it rubbed right out so I don't know where your coming from but if that did happen it would be very frustrating indeed. Where did you buy it from by chance?
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Well this is an interesting post I just read through the whole thing and I have an Inivsa HD on my SGS3 and I have loved it. I just tried to rape it with my fingernail and it rubbed right out so I don't know where your coming from but if that did happen it would be very frustrating indeed. Where did you buy it from by chance?
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I bought it from Best buy and even had them install it.
Because I had them install it, I have 30 days warranty on it, where they will just remove it and re-apply for me if anything is wrong with it.
I will be going and getting him to do that, and if it happens again, refund for me.
Maybe a bad batch came to Canada?
At least you can understand my frustration. It looks like I used a stylus on the shield, and I dont even own a stylus... lol
I thought everyone should know the unadvertised claims for the product at least! Its apparently thinner and weaker, and thats coming right from a Zagg employee!
EDIT: the fact that yours is fine actually frustrates me even more because he pretty much said that its perfectly normal that mine is dented. Which is clearly not true because yours is not. They cant admit a defect in even ONE film?
I had one on my GS2 and it acted the same. Never buy from them again. Over priced and feel horrible.
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wow you pretty much owned them. +++ for this
personally i think under normal usage you will never need a sreen protector. a tpu case is more than enough.
pnda said:
wow you pretty much owned them. +++ for this
personally i think under normal usage you will never need a sreen protector. a tpu case is more than enough.
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Thanks for that comment, I just had to take some frustration out on them. Its not fair to compare their invisibleshield HD to their invisibleshield? haha... come on!
I just like to take the extra step to ensure that if anything sharp comes in contact with the screen, it will not damage it. I put screen protectors on the screens of my digital cameras too.
Well you should be a lawyer or soething,because you sounded very smart lol.
Id end up just telling them to fu** off and want my money back haha.
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Well you should be a lawyer or soething,because you sounded very smart lol.
Id end up just telling them to fu** off and want my money back haha.
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Haha thanks a lot.
I will be getting my money back through Best Buy anyway, but I needed to say something to these guys about their misleading claims.
Who doesnt want a product that is as good as the original, PLUS smoother and clearer?
Well... if that was only the truth!
I'm not sure why you had such a bad experience, but I love Zagg products. I even have a Droid Razr Maxx with a Gorilla Glass screen with a Zagg InvisibleShield.
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I'm not sure why you had such a bad experience, but I love Zagg products. I even have a Droid Razr Maxx with a Gorilla Glass screen with a Zagg InvisibleShield.
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Those would be the original Invisibleshields. My brother has one on his HTC Desire and its great, but this HD one on the s3 is terrible.
Make a tl;dr for this?
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I bought it from Best buy and even had them install it.
Because I had them install it, I have 30 days warranty on it, where they will just remove it and re-apply for me if anything is wrong with it.
I will be going and getting him to do that, and if it happens again, refund for me.
Maybe a bad batch came to Canada?
At least you can understand my frustration. It looks like I used a stylus on the shield, and I dont even own a stylus... lol
I thought everyone should know the unadvertised claims for the product at least! Its apparently thinner and weaker, and thats coming right from a Zagg employee!
EDIT: the fact that yours is fine actually frustrates me even more because he pretty much said that its perfectly normal that mine is dented. Which is clearly not true because yours is not. They cant admit a defect in even ONE film?
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Honestly man the reliability of there sheilds from batch to batch is horrific. I work at Best Buy and every time I have to install a sheild I will go through at least 3 of them to find one without a defect. Sounds like an exaggeration but its the truth I write off more Invisasheilds than anything else and its not because of me boching the install its because of them seriously having a defect. Once you get a good one though they are pretty nice.
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Honestly man the reliability of there sheilds from batch to batch is horrific. I work at Best Buy and every time I have to install a sheild I will go through at least 3 of them to find one without a defect. Sounds like an exaggeration but its the truth I write off more Invisasheilds than anything else and its not because of me boching the install its because of them seriously having a defect. Once you get a good one though they are pretty nice.
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The guy seemed like he did a good job, he did it right infront of me. So I guess I will try my luck on another one since I wont be paying.
They dont care that you go through that many? How much is Best Buys cost for 1 invisibleshield?
I didn't read most of this thread, or even the OP, BUT, I had an evo lte for a few weeks with the new zagg on it, hated the screen protector. Exactly what OP says about scratches and indents staying indefinitely. After 2 weeks it just looked like crap.
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The guy seemed like he did a good job, he did it right infront of me. So I guess I will try my luck on another one since I wont be paying.
They dont care that you go through that many? How much is Best Buys cost for 1 invisibleshield?
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No they don't care man they know that most of them are defective. The cost on the HD ones is around $6 if my memory serves me correctly its not bad but still we just send them bag to Zagg.
Very interesting to hear from a best buy guy I'd love to know what kind of defects you're talking about, and so I can look out for them when I go to get mine installed. I have a zagg booth in the mall near me, would you recommend that I get it done there, or at the best buy across the street?
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thanks for the heads up to the community. I think market is the cheapest thing to sell, rather than a good resolved product which delivers what it promises. it takes a good lot of effort to check and double check if they sold what they are saying, and i think you've done that for us regarding this brand~
ironically, bad marketing goes twice as far and three times as fast =)
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I will post this in both Galaxy s3 sections because people need to know. This is a good read to know about their misleading advertising that their employee uncovered (unintentionally?) for me.
I am sorry I do not have any photos, because my camera just cant pick up the issues correctly...
I suggest to stay away from this product. It is not like the original invisibleshield.
It is very smooth, which is better than the original, but IT IS NOT DURABLE! The slightest pressure by my fingernail left an indent that has not gone away. I tried the same thing on my brother's original invisibleshield on his HTC Desire and it would not even leave an indent in the first place. If it flexed a little bit, it would heal itself right away.
My screen looks like I have been using the phone for 2 years! and I BABY the phone. Has always been in a case (which does not touch the screen), never shares my pocket with anything else, is face down in my pocket, hasnt been dropped yet (knock on wood) and have not bumped anything into the screen. I do not use a stylus.
I have had the protector on since June 27th and there are many indentations on the screen! It dents extremely easily and it does NOT HEAL.
I have been going back and forth with a Zagg employee in customer service and I will show the correspondence here, but I will remove his/her name.
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I can attest to this gentleman's claim!
I bought the same product and had the exact same problem. The material is almost rubber like and gets indented extremely easily. I just thew mine away after a week. Dont buy!
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I can attest to this gentleman's claim!
I bought the same product and had the exact same problem. The material is almost rubber like and gets indented extremely easily. I just thew mine away after a week. Dont buy!
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I take back all my previous claims the Invisasheild HD on the SGS3 is terrible. I am experiencing the exact same "skating rink" look and feel now after moderate use. I baby my phone like crazy and I get all of these marks on it that will not go away. My sheild was good for the first week as said but now it is like this. Not to mention I went through 3 Invisasheild HD's at my store to find this one and it turned out like this after 2 weeks. I have now gone to the Matt finish Anti-Smudge sheild and couldn't be happier. This is a real problem that Zagg has to look at. I will update with some pictures in a little here once I get my macro lens to work.
@GamerMYJ, the only advantage in my experience is BestBuy isn't afraid to go get another shield and write it off for you, well at least I'm not and it shouldn't be an exception at another store & I speak on behalf of my store in Canada.
I also have this problem my question is though if just the screen protector is damaged or is this actually also damaging my phone screen?
Hi folks
I'm considering getting the S III but am not sure about the screen durability as i've heard a lot of mixed reviews. How durable is it? Looking at some break tests on youtube suggests that the screen is a lot more sensitive as compared to other phone. Is that true?
btw, what is a good case for this device ?
Thanks!
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Hi folks
I'm considering getting the S III but am not sure about the screen durability as i've heard a lot of mixed reviews. How durable is it? Looking at some break tests on youtube suggests that the screen is a lot more sensitive as compared to other phone. Is that true?
btw, what is a good case for this device ?
Thanks!
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I dunno if this counts, but I keep dropping mine and the only damage so far is a little scratching on the corner of the outer plastic bezel when I dropped it once pretty hard on some rough tar. I haven't seen any other blemishes on the case, and so far no scratching at all on the glass. I loved my Nexus One, but the glass on that scratched pretty easy just sitting in my pocket. Not so with the SIII, no scratches at all on the glass in the 3 mo I've had the phone.
I don't have a case for it.
Bigger the screen... The easier its going to break. Simple.
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Bigger the screen... The easier its going to break. Simple.
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+1 but on the flip side I always baby my phones and with the sgs3 its slim and fits in the pocket just fine. So no issues here for me and this awesome screen.. I highly recommend it to you.
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The gorilla glass on this phone is garbage. ive never dropped a phone and a couple of weeks ago i slid it into my pocket and my pocket was broken. It fell like 2 inches from the ground on to pavement and wrecked the display and the bezel is all dinged up. gonna fix the display and get rid of it
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The gorilla glass on this phone is garbage. ive never dropped a phone and a couple of weeks ago i slid it into my pocket and my pocket was broken. It fell like 2 inches from the ground on to pavement and wrecked the display and the bezel is all dinged up. gonna fix the display and get rid of it
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Similar experience...phone dropped from my pocket while sitting, landed on the corner, cracked screen...probably hit the weak spot on the phone, regardless, shouldn't break that easily IMO..
It is not durable at all compared to my previous phones (gs2, hd2) if you drop it there will be serious cosmetic damage. The plastic is extremely soft.
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Get an Otter Box, you pay that much for a phone then spend an extra 50 bucks to keep it safe.
Get a case if your gonna pick up the GS3... its a beautiful phone but you need to make sure you can protect it... I dropped my phone 4 times since I got it and thank God I bought a case for it. If I didn't have one, then my screen would have been shattered already
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Op, keep in mind all these guys who broke their displays are a small percentage of a whole.
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yea that's why i'm hesitant in buying it (3 actually). The issue seems widespread and if it is a case of bigger screen then it is a serious design flaw or maybe a manufacturing flaw. At this point im probably going to put off buying this phone but let's see if things change
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Get a case if your gonna pick up the GS3... its a beautiful phone but you need to make sure you can protect it... I dropped my phone 4 times since I got it and thank God I bought a case for it. If I didn't have one, then my screen would have been shattered already
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What case did you buy? What do you like and dislike about it?
Do not have it yet, but Im going for the otterbox defender. Only negative I have heard from some is that the built-in screen protector lacks a bit in terms of looks on screen. Can always remove that tho.
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What case did you buy? What do you like and dislike about it?
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I just bought the generic case from T-Mobile store... its grey. I mean its okay. It gets the job done but I'm looking to get the seidio case with kickstand. I just found that on the top left hand corner of my phone, I have a tiny dent on the side... its irritating the hell outta me but I only see it when I take the case off... guess it could be worse...
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Do not have it yet, but Im going for the otterbox defender. Only negative I have heard from some is that the built-in screen protector lacks a bit in terms of looks on screen. Can always remove that tho.
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The built-in screen protector makes the display look cheap.
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I feel like the S II was way more durable. But that's why I bought insurance for this phone. Never had insurance on any other device. And the fact that I have an extended battery and there really aren't any good cases for extended batteries made me get the insurance.
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It's a phone and it uses glass, it doesn't matter what phone it is if your looking at Youtube and their hitting it with a hammer or dragging a razor over the screen then it's gonna do as expected. It's almost comical that people do these tests considering you spend money on the phone you should be responsible for it and take care of it. Accidents happen and the carriers know this so instead take care of your property, it doesn't matter who made it or what some moron with a hammer says.
all that is fine but generally speaking one does expect some level of durability for a device that costs upwards of $700 dollars, specially if the company is touting the latest and greatest gorilla glass 2 as one of the main features of the phone. Cellphones break when dropped, everyone should know that. But the amount of complaints i've come across regarding the S III and the different ways the screen is getting damaged is quite abnormal to say the least.
Anyway, i'm still debating whether i should pass on this phone or go for it. Anything new coming up in the coming weeks?
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all that is fine but generally speaking one does expect some level of durability for a device that costs upwards of $700 dollars, specially if the company is touting the latest and greatest gorilla glass 2 as one of the main features of the phone. Cellphones break when dropped, everyone should know that. But the amount of complaints i've come across regarding the S III and the different ways the screen is getting damaged is quite abnormal to say the least.
Anyway, i'm still debating whether i should pass on this phone or go for it. Anything new coming up in the coming weeks?
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You never hear the whole story either when people give these reviews, "I had it in my pocket and the screen cracked" turns into I was drunk and fell down the stairs.
I still have all of my devices in perfect shape and it all comes down to how well someone takes care of their things. If your gonna carry the phone in your pocket with your car keys then its gonna happen, I see it all the time and like you said at $700.00 you should act like it's worth it. You want an honest opinion on the device? It's worth every penny but the one thing that would make me warm and fuzzy about it is if HTC built the body. It still feels solid but theres nothing like a well built frame like you would find on the One S or X. No other device comes close to the functionality and multitasking that this one does and I own 8 myself (different devices not all cells.)
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yup the One X is really nice too. Too bad t-mobile doesn't carry it.
I'm going to call t-mobile again and see if i could get a better deal on the S iii's than what they offered me ($179 per phone)
I just paid $325.00 for a note 2 on ebay. The seller stated that the phone was hardly used, looked and operated like new. Besides the fact that i got no charger or box which was in the picture, the phone has a 1 inch wide deep scratch on the bottom part of the screen. I REALLY want to keep this phone but man i feel like i just got had and im ticked off. I already ordered a screen protector from SGP and my question is, would this help diminish the look of a scratch? Ive asked for a full refund but maybe im thinking i could deal with it if he is willing to give a partial refund and i can mask most of this scratch some how. What would you guys do?
jd14771 said:
basically you have no options other than buying a new screen or trying to "fill" the scratch but that would never work. you would really have to know what your doing to do it right without making that portion of the screen inoperable.
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How much does it generally cost to replace the front glass?
I advise against getting the glass replaced.. The Note II screen is like many new phones these days fused together with the digitizer.. Sure it can be done but I wouldn't attempt it myself.. When I was using my Note 2 I got a scratch on the display and bought a replacement lcd/digitizer on ebay. It was around $200 but replacing it myself was simple.
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I advise against getting the glass replaced.. The Note II screen is like many new phones these days fused together with the digitizer.. Sure it can be done but I wouldn't attempt it myself.. When I was using my Note 2 I got a scratch on the display and bought a replacement lcd/digitizer on ebay. It was around $200 but replacing it myself was simple.
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Thanks for the advice. I'm not really sure what I'm going to do at this point. Maybe it's best I try to get a full refund....not really sure what to do
I'd get a full refund and find another one in better shape if the scratch bothers u. Its gonna be alot of money to fix that scratch.
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If you get an anti glare screen protector it will diminish the scratch of the glass and make it somewhat smooth when you use your s pen... You won't feel a thing and you will most likely notice the scratch a little less... But this things are annoying as heck. Knowing it's always there, screen replacements are expensive because of the digitiser... But I think you can just buy the glass instead of the whole thing... You won't be able to do it yourself without damaging something though.
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something like this is what you'd need..Seems a lot cheaper than a few months ago these things were almost $300
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...e_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item3a80d934e3
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...e_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item417369e114
Depends how deep is a scratch and how much patience you have, you could wet sand and polish the screen. I did successfully sanded out scratches from smartphones. I started with 1000 grid sand paper, followed by 1200, later 1500 and 2000. Polished with fine compound using dremel and buffing pad and looked like new. Just remember to mask area around scratch and make sure that water will not go inside phone.
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Keep the phone and ignore the scratch.
Unless the scratch is worth $300 more to you. In that case don't.
Or you can google "remove scratch gorilla glass" and see how to grind and polish the whole screen down.
Or you can order a screen and take your chances doing the surgery.
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Here's a pic of the scratch. Upon turning this phone on, I've noticed a much smaller but oddly more noticeable scratch in the middle. It's very shallow so I'm sure a screen protector would mask majority of it. Of course the buyer is not answering my messages.
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Here's a pic of the scratch. Upon turning this phone on, I've noticed a much smaller but oddly more noticeable scratch in the middle. It's very shallow so I'm sure a screen protector would mask majority of it. Of course the buyer is not answering my messages.
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Aren't you the buyer? If the seller isn't answering messages take it up with eBay. They usually get you your money back. If the seller won't answer ebay they will ban him from making anymore sales
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Replacing the screen by itself is extremely hard to do and you risk cracking the AMOLED, too. I repair Note 2 cracked screens/AMOLED by simply replacing the whole housing with a new one. They're expensive however. They can run over $100 in ebay.
Easiest thing to do is get a full refund if you can't stand the scratch. Complain to ebay or credit card company if you used a credit card in paypal. Or just put a screen protector to mask the scratch out a little bit.
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Pic of scratch on screen as requested by seller.
You could try lens repair compound. It won't risk damaging the screen like wet sanding can, but it may not bond although it should without any problems. Its a polymer you rub into the scratches and it backfills them to make them less visible to almost invisible and makes them smooth again. It's usually around $20 for a small kit but it lasts a long time since you only use a few drops per scratch. I'm not sure where to buy it in a brick and mortar but it's pretty easy to find online. Its almost identical to the cracked windshield stuff they sell but is more viscous since it's for scratches and not cracks. The best ones are the ones used for eyeglasses. Some of the others aren't as optically clear if they're for glass objects and not glass used for viewing. I've used it on everything from eyeglasses to high end wristwatches without any problems except one item I used it on it didn't bond so the scratch remained after the compound peeled off.
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I just paid $325.00 for a note 2 on ebay. The seller stated that the phone was hardly used, looked and operated like new. Besides the fact that i got no charger or box which was in the picture, the phone has a 1 inch wide deep scratch on the bottom part of the screen. I REALLY want to keep this phone but man i feel like i just got had and im ticked off. I already ordered a screen protector from SGP and my question is, would this help diminish the look of a scratch? Ive asked for a full refund but maybe im thinking i could deal with it if he is willing to give a partial refund and i can mask most of this scratch some how. What would you guys do?
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I do a lot of business on eBay and worst case scenario is to return as it wasn't described as received......
EBay resolution is very good with those things
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I just paid $325.00 for a note 2 on ebay. The seller stated that the phone was hardly used, looked and operated like new. Besides the fact that i got no charger or box which was in the picture, the phone has a 1 inch wide deep scratch on the bottom part of the screen. I REALLY want to keep this phone but man i feel like i just got had and im ticked off. I already ordered a screen protector from SGP and my question is, would this help diminish the look of a scratch? Ive asked for a full refund but maybe im thinking i could deal with it if he is willing to give a partial refund and i can mask most of this scratch some how. What would you guys do?
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I would try to get partial refund and deal with the scratch. Other than that your other option is put a screen protector and maybe that will cover it a little otherwise file a claim with eBay for full refund. Depending on the description of the eBay ad you may have a case. Remember that eBay will pay your shipping back to seller. This is one reason I , are there any scratches on screen before I bid, eBay will use these questions in case anyone ever files a claim. And this is another reason why I now use swappa.com to buy and sell all my phones.
In the end if scratch really bothers you first contact seller to arrange a return. If they say no or want to make you pay shipping back to him then you'll have to file a claim. Good luck. Any questions let me know. I sell alot on eBay and have recently sold 2 phones with another up for sale on swappa.
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Here's a pic of the scratch. Upon turning this phone on, I've noticed a much smaller but oddly more noticeable scratch in the middle. It's very shallow so I'm sure a screen protector would mask majority of it. Of course the buyer is not answering my messages.
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If seller doesn't answer then start the resolution process. If they don't respond within an alotted time you automatically win the case.
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The seller has agreed to refund me part of the money to go towards a new digitizer. Hopefully the phone activates without any problems.
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The seller has agreed to refund me part of the money to go towards a new digitizer. Hopefully the phone activates without any problems.
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Just wondering if anyone in Canada can verify if the Fold 4 comes with front and internal protectors? I received mine this morning and I would say the front does not but not sure about the internal. I read somewhere that they are using a better glue to stop the internal protector from peeling but I just can't tell if there is.
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Internal does, you can just about see it if you look, front doesnt
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Internal does, you can just about see it if you look, front doesnt
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Thanks very much for your reply...I was able to run my nail along the edge and feel it. Why on earth does such an expensive phone not come with a front screen protector. In principle it's almost worth returning this phone just because of that...Samsung is getting way to greedy.
imapfsr said:
Thanks very much for your reply...I was able to run my nail along the edge and feel it. Why on earth does such an expensive phone not come with a front screen protector. In principle it's almost worth returning this phone just because of that...Samsung is getting way to greedy.
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Think it's because full screen protector can get in the way of the cases, why most the 3rd party ones aren't full screen and leave an area around the edges for that
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Thanks very much for your reply...I was able to run my nail along the edge and feel it. Why on earth does such an expensive phone not come with a front screen protector. In principle it's almost worth returning this phone just because of that...Samsung is getting way to greedy.
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All manufacturers are cutting cost where ever they can. OnePlus cut screen protectors a few generations back for US phones. They used to give a case too.
Don't forget that chargers are all but gone as well....
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Why on earth does such an expensive phone not come with a front screen protector.
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One contributing factor may be the desire of retailers to sell us overpriced aftermarket screen protectors. And Samsung's desire to appease the wishes of their retailers.
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One contributing factor may be the desire of retailers to sell us overpriced aftermarket screen protectors. And Samsung's desire to appease the wishes of their retailers.
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and how about the loyal purchasers eh skriefal...well maybe someday they will learn that if you keep poking the bear....
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One contributing factor may be the desire of retailers to sell us overpriced aftermarket screen protectors. And Samsung's desire to appease the wishes of their retailers.
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The thing is that this truly is the nicest Fold yet without question and I don't think I could return it even though I am getting that disgusted by Samsung shady business practices.
I doubt that it'll matter too much considering that other manufacturers are also removing - or have removed - preinstalled or in-box screen protectors, cases, chargers, and other accessories. As with so many things it's a race to the bottom. "Hey XYZ has removed screen protectors on their phones. Whoopee - now we can do it too!" Next to go will probably be the in-box USB cable. And the retailers will love them for it.
Waiting for them to remove the SIM card removal tool and tell us to use a safety pin . Best Buy, Verizon, and T-Mobile will be happy to sell the tool for $1.99...
I ordered the front screen protector with the preorder bonus money. Easy $14 protector for free and figured it wouldn't come with one
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The thing is that this truly is the nicest Fold yet without question and I don't think I could return it even though I am getting that disgusted by Samsung shady business practices.
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Is this the reason they are doing what ever they want. They know once anyone uses a fold they won't be going back to normal phone
I myself Never going back to ultras or iphones unless they have a foldable too
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