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Can anybody extract an installable wifi calling apk file on G2 (if any)?

I'd like to see whether it exists and can anybody extract it out and I'll try to install on nexus one to see how it works.

mingkee said:
I'd like to see whether it exists and can anybody extract it out and I'll try to install on nexus one to see how it works.
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It's not on the shipping rom...

You should be able to pull it from the dumped euro rom if I'm not mistaken.
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rUsTyRuSs said:
You should be able to pull it from the dumped euro rom if I'm not mistaken.
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Lol what.no
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http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-g2-wont-have-free-tethering-may-have-wifi-calling
doesn't come installed yet- from what I've read, it will be included in an OTA

It is not installed got mine this weekend in austin at the android bbq from the tmobile pr rep

Wonder if G2 will be support for the wifi application and service ?

Sounds awesome, but no body is discussing price. Do WiFi minutes use your normal minutes, or is there a separate cost (has to be for international), or is (National) WiFi calling completely FREE?
If I can save minutes using WiFi at home and have no additional costs, that would be awesome.
...also, I assume the phone cannot receive calls (from your normal number) over WiFi, can it? It would be even nicer to be able to make and receive calls with the cellular network completely turned off. Imagine the battery life!

rpmccormick said:
Sounds awesome, but no body is discussing price. Do WiFi minutes use your normal minutes, or is there a separate cost (has to be for international), or is (National) WiFi calling completely FREE?
If I can save minutes using WiFi at home and have no additional costs, that would be awesome.
...also, I assume the phone cannot receive calls (from your normal number) over WiFi, can it? It would be even nicer to be able to make and receive calls with the cellular network completely turned off. Imagine the battery life!
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Price will most likely be free like uma. On my wife's bold, wifi calls are free. The cellular radio will not need to be active as that would defeat the purpose. However, the new system doesn't do wifi to cellular hand-off. So if you leave the range of your wifi network, the call is dropped. also, I'm not sure how this is going to pan out, but the system apparently connects to the towers via the internet and the towers connect the call. I'm not sure if this means you need to be in a serviceable area or not, but it seemed rather odd to me.

In regards to the wifi calling app. The service (ability to make calls over wifi) will be free, making phone calls will deduct from normal minute buckets. T-Mobile states that they have it use your minutes because while it doesn't use a local tower it still goes through their system (ie call gets routed through web to tmobile switch and then is sent through a landline, which of course tmobile still pays the owner for, using @home only cuts the use of the one tower and base station, you still register on the network so you can use your normal # and receive calls. Which brings me to my last point...) you should be able to receive calls just fine.
One thing to keep in mind, wifi signal is degraded more heavily by the way you hold the phone than cell signal, if you download an app that monitors cell and wifi signal, you can see this for yourself. Something to keep in mind if you notice your calls are dropping a lot on wifi or you are missing calls.
In regards to needing to be in a servicable area, the service will work as long as there is wifi. Even in other countries.
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But no free min via wifi, even for incoming? Lame and usless unless you have poor voice signal where you are.
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But no free min via wifi, even for incoming? Lame and usless unless you have poor voice signal where you are.
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True enough. In the past you could add unlimited calling over wifi for $10 per line or $20 for up to five. This feature was discountinued in 2008, with tmobile claiming only a tiny percentage of consumers used the service and that it would remain fir business customers (albeit at a higher price.)
If enough people request it, maybe tmobile will come out with the feature sooner. If you really want something like that, request it at @tmobile on twitter, ask on facebook, post on the support forums or call customer care. If enough people want it, it will happen.
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Skype????????

I wonder how this will work on corporate plans.
we have about 150 blackberrys with wifi calling and we have a deal where it does not deduct from our minute pool

I really hope it comes out as an OTA.
Not because I'm concerned with wifi calling, I'm concerned with an OTA coming out... one that can help those many times smarter than I get root.
..That said bring it up to tmo at any chance!

so let me get this straight, so if i have the unlimited wifi (which i do) then when the wi-fi calling gets here (hopefully soon) then it will NOT be deducted from my minutes bucket right ?

Use skype........

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so let me get this straight, so if i have the unlimited wifi (which i do) then when the wi-fi calling gets here (hopefully soon) then it will NOT be deducted from my minutes bucket right ?
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It will still use your minutes.
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jasonvieira said:
I wonder how this will work on corporate plans.
we have about 150 blackberrys with wifi calling and we have a deal where it does not deduct from our minute pool
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tl;dr
In short, no idea yet
In the billing system your calls from uma phones (and @home phones) get tagged as being a hotspot call (you see this on your paper or net bill with a letter designation.) The free uma calling service relies on the tag to make the calls free. If calls from the wifi calling app get this tag (it should show even without the free calling feature) the the calls will be free from the wifi calling app through the unlimited uma calling feature, otherwise no.
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so let me get this straight, so if i have the unlimited wifi (which i do) then when the wi-fi calling gets here (hopefully soon) then it will NOT be deducted from my minutes bucket right ?
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no, it won't be deducted from your minutes if you're already grandfathered & paying the monthly fee for unlimited uma/hotspot minutes (that's directly from the tmo techs' wifi calling training doc)

Wifi tether and sprint hotspot

I am currently running latest bonsai rom and am looking at swapping to acs rom 1.0.2. I keep reading about using the sprint hotspot app for wifi tether. Does this enable sprint to bill for tethering? Can't really afford it if it does. Can't search too well due to pc being down and xda app is hard to search on so sorry if repeat topic.
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The Sprint Hotspot app is Sprint's service. You pay $30/month to turn your phone into a wifi hotspot so that other devices can use your internet connection. Wifi tether does the same thing, except it's free. Sprint does not like that.
On a sidebar, AT&T is aware that customers with jailbroken Iphones are doing this (using a wifi tether service) and have sent notices to the users saying that they will automatically be signed up for AT&T's service package if they do not stop by March 30 (or somewhere close to that date). I wouldn't be surprised if Sprint followed suit.

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The Sprint Hotspot app is Sprint's service. You pay $30/month to turn your phone into a wifi hotspot so that other devices can use your internet connection. Wifi tether does the same thing, except it's free. Sprint does not like that.
On a sidebar, AT&T is aware that customers with jailbroken Iphones are doing this (using a wifi tether service) and have sent notices to the users saying that they will automatically be signed up for AT&T's service package if they do not stop by March 30 (or somewhere close to that date). I wouldn't be surprised if Sprint followed suit.
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Is there a way for a carrier to prove it one way or the other? I know that our phones are supposed to be more data intensive anyway.

ficjay said:
Is there a way for a carrier to prove it one way or the other? I know that our phones are supposed to be more data intensive anyway.
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Of course. Any Internet connection that's not explicitly encrypted is easily sniffable. I think most providers pay attention to the HTTP user-agent string which give away your browser and OS version, but that's often faked on phones anyways to get "desktop" versions of websites in a mobile browser (and thus, if you get a notice and not tethering, worth complaining over).
But if you play WoW, or stream Netflix, or do something over a tethered connection that can't be done on the phone itself, that's another giveaway.

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Is there a way for a carrier to prove it one way or the other? I know that our phones are supposed to be more data intensive anyway.
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Yeah, it's really easy for a carrier to pinpoint an exact user and see how much data he/she is using and how he/she is using it (i.e. 3g, 4g, wifi). Additionally, it is easy for them to spot users that have hacked into their hotspot service. I probably wouldn't worry about it until I got a threatening letter from Sprint though.

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The Sprint Hotspot app is Sprint's service. You pay $30/month to turn your phone into a wifi hotspot so that other devices can use your internet connection. Wifi tether does the same thing, except it's free. Sprint does not like that.
On a sidebar, AT&T is aware that customers with jailbroken Iphones are doing this (using a wifi tether service) and have sent notices to the users saying that they will automatically be signed up for AT&T's service package if they do not stop by March 30 (or somewhere close to that date). I wouldn't be surprised if Sprint followed suit.
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Sprint seems to be a bit more relaxed towards it, just like tmobile is until att buys them out. I don't think sprint would do it as anymore than a warning. Tethering on sprint phones has been around for many years back to an old sanyo brick I had. They had tethering plans back then but didn't enforce them. They would help you get around the tethering bill on national phone support. They also have free apps like pdanet that allow you to tether in the marketplace without root so the whole thing with android is you don't need to "jailbreak" your device to tether free. Before I rooted and romed my epic, hero, evo I always used pdanet and never had issues so for them to step on androids toes would take more balls then simply saying the only way on an iphone is to break in and make it do this.
TL;DR. Iphone and android are different things in all ways.
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[BOUNTY(?)] WiFi calling

Not really sure how to properly start a bounty thread, and direction is appreciated. Also don't know if this is even possible as I know porting wifi calling has proven to be nearly impossible on other devices, e.g. Nexus S. However, doesn't hurt to ask and I know it was done on Nexus One. Am using Galaxy Nexus on TMo, if that makes any difference.
Really, desperately need wifi calling for reception purposes in my apartment. Left TMo's Galaxy S2 for the Galaxy Nexus, love everything about it except lack of reception in home.
I know I can utilize Google Voice, but I need to be able to use my TMo number for both incoming and outgoing calls as well as texts, and not interested in porting my mobile number to Google.
I'm willing to fork over $100 for working wifi calling, if anyone is up to the challenge... if even possible...
Also, if anyone has alternate suggestion (not Google Voice, something that utilizes TMo mobile number, would be GREATLY appreciated!!

If this is possible that would be awesome. But I believe UMA is strictly a tmo thing
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I use Groove IP app exclusively for calls, both over wifi and 3G/HSPA+. I am on the T-mobile $30/unlimited data/100min plan, so it is a must for me. It works great! and only a few bucks on the market. You will need a Google Voice account, and to set it to ring Google Talk, and maybe a little other setup, but it is pretty simple.

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I use Groove IP app exclusively for calls, both over wifi and 3G/HSPA+. I am on the T-mobile $30/unlimited data/100min plan, so it is a must for me. It works great! and only a few bucks on the market. You will need a Google Voice account, and to set it to ring Google Talk, and maybe a little other setup, but it is pretty simple.
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Thanks for suggestion but I really need my TMo mobile number to work, and I'm not looking to port it to GV...

lp1527 said:
Thanks for suggestion but I really need my TMo mobile number to work, and I'm not looking to port it to GV...
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I will match whatever contribution you make. I want to see the WiFi calling in the ways of the HTC Glacier (MT4G)...

Verizon has a network extender that plugs into your home internet connection. It gives you a cell signal in your house and routes it over the internet back to Verizon. There is no monthly fee just a charge of the device. $250 i think. Maybe TMo has a similar device.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=gotoFemtocell

pharpe said:
Verizon has a network extender that plugs into your home internet connection. It gives you a cell signal in your house and routes it over the internet back to Verizon. There is no monthly fee just a charge of the device. $250 i think. Maybe TMo has a similar device.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=gotoFemtocell
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GSM, on T-Mobile
But thanks for the suggestion...

pharpe said:
Verizon has a network extender that plugs into your home internet connection. It gives you a cell signal in your house and routes it over the internet back to Verizon. There is no monthly fee just a charge of the device. $250 i think. Maybe TMo has a similar device.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=gotoFemtocell
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TMo does have a signal booster device, but it cannot be implemented in shared-wall structures (i.e. apartment buildings). Also, have many places, such as family homes, with lousy in-door coverage where wi-fi calling makes all the difference in the world.

i called tmo last month i fact complaining of a low signal in my town home. they sent me a signal booster for free.. from 1 bar downstairs to now 5 bars

BiGMERF said:
i called tmo last month i fact complaining of a low signal in my town home. they sent me a signal booster for free.. from 1 bar downstairs to now 5 bars
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That's awesome! Unfortunately they're not allowed in apartment buildings so won't help me.
I desperately need wi-fi calling!!!

lp1527 said:
That's awesome! Unfortunately they're not allowed in apartment buildings so won't help me.
I desperately need wi-fi calling!!!
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Yeah, the cops might hall you off!

lp1527 said:
That's awesome! Unfortunately they're not allowed in apartment buildings so won't help me.
I desperately need wi-fi calling!!!
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Who's going to stop you..?
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jyames said:
Yeah, the cops might hall you off!
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Who's going to stop you..?
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Well I'm not scared of the signal booster police!
Unfortunately they check your address to verify. NO, I don't know if/how they can verify ALL shared wall structures, but for someone like me with "Apt. 5J" attached to my address it's not difficult. The issue is you need to register your address in case of emergency, as 911 cannot definitely and accurately determine your address if making a call using signal booster. So the issue is that if a neighbor picks up your signal without knowing and makes an emergency call, 911 may not be able to identify address. I know it's a long shot but it's not MY rule. And afaik, you cannot lock the signal to exclude others as you can with wifi.

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Yeah, the cops might hall you off!
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Oh, and hall = haul when referring to carrying someone away. Just saying

I think the booster is tied to your cell account... so you might have a fun surprise.
The wifi calling was awesome but ultimately its property of T-Mobile and doesn't work on ICS. T-Mobile must update it before even attempting to porting it over.
CM team has used it a ton. Maybe they'll implement it in their CM9 rom. But I suspect they'll be busy just ironing out the bugs for a while.
Plus T-Mobile is doing away with wifi calling as we know it. I BELIEVE they're implementing a new system and probably going to charge for it.
Hopefully T-Mobile gets this working on some ICS (Nexus?) when it releases.
-Galaxy Nexus
-Asus Transformer

player911 said:
I think the booster is tied to your cell account... so you might have a fun surprise.
The wifi calling was awesome but ultimately its property of T-Mobile and doesn't work on ICS. T-Mobile must update it before even attempting to porting it over.
CM team has used it a ton. Maybe they'll implement it in their CM9 rom. But I suspect they'll be busy just ironing out the bugs for a while.
Plus T-Mobile is doing away with wifi calling as we know it. I BELIEVE they're implementing a new system and probably going to charge for it.
Hopefully T-Mobile gets this working on some ICS (Nexus?) when it releases.
-Galaxy Nexus
-Asus Transformer
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You're correct that wifi calling is very proprietary to T-Mobile and from what I understand (I'm not a developer whatsoever), is extremely difficult to impossible to port. I've been watching them try it on Nexus S since its release a year ago.
Unfortunately T-Mobile won't make it available to a non-branded TMo phone so unless Galaxy Nexus is released directly by TMo (which I doubt will happen), it won't happen even when they update it for their own ICS devices.
ALso, TMo did in fact change the implementation of their wifi calling- it's already been released on new devices such as TMo Galaxy S2 and HTC Amaze. However they are not and will not be charging for it (in fact they've again enabled free calls that don't use plan minutes when calling on wifi), it has just changed the way it's handled (better performance). Little to no noticeable change to end users.
Would be great if CM team get it working on Galaxy Nexus!
Good thoughts, thanks!

lp1527 said:
You're correct that wifi calling is very proprietary to T-Mobile and from what I understand (I'm not a developer whatsoever), is extremely difficult to impossible to port. I've been watching them try it on Nexus S since its release a year ago.
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The problem on the Nexus S has nothing to do with the Wifi Calling app (which is actually made by Kineto), the problem is the radio interface layer (from Samsung) which is a binary blob. It does not support what the Wifi calling software requires to work (authentication calls mainly). Kineto blames Google for not "requesting" this feature from Samsung.
Getting the Kineto app up and working was really not that difficult. The only thing that needed to be changed was an audio library because the constructor was changed from Froyo to Gingerbread. That had nothing to do with the Kineto/Wifi calling software other than it used that constructor.
lp1527 said:
Unfortunately T-Mobile won't make it available to a non-branded TMo phone so unless Galaxy Nexus is released directly by TMo (which I doubt will happen), it won't happen even when they update it for their own ICS devices.
ALso, TMo did in fact change the implementation of their wifi calling- it's already been released on new devices such as TMo Galaxy S2 and HTC Amaze. However they are not and will not be charging for it (in fact they've again enabled free calls that don't use plan minutes when calling on wifi), it has just changed the way it's handled (better performance). Little to no noticeable change to end users.
Would be great if CM team get it working on Galaxy Nexus!
Good thoughts, thanks!
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I believe there is also a hardware component to it now (SIM based).
If anyone wants to try this I can give you the necessary info to get started.

krohnjw said:
The problem on the Nexus S has nothing to do with the Wifi Calling app (which is actually made by Kineto), the problem is the radio interface layer (from Samsung) which is a binary blob. It does not support what the Wifi calling software requires to work (authentication calls mainly). Kineto blames Google for not "requesting" this feature from Samsung.
Getting the Kineto app up and working was really not that difficult. The only thing that needed to be changed was an audio library because the constructor was changed from Froyo to Gingerbread. That had nothing to do with the Kineto/Wifi calling software other than it used that constructor.
I believe there is also a hardware component to it now (SIM based).
If anyone wants to try this I can give you the necessary info to get started.
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Well you clearly know much more than I do about it! Like I said, I'm absolutely no dev and have only 'average' knowledge of these things. Thanks for the info! Any idea if the GN has what would be necessary to make it happen?

I use my own asterisk box, but I'm sure a pbxes account would work for you. Just use the built-in sip client on the galaxy nexus.
https://www1.pbxes.com/index_e.php

nomisunrider said:
I use my own asterisk box, but I'm sure a pbxes account would work for you. Just use the built-in sip client on the galaxy nexus.
https://www1.pbxes.com/index_e.php
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Checked out the link but I still have NO clue what this is ... can you elaborate please? Thanks!

Wifi Calling on Family Mobile

A really close friend of mine has the Galaxy S II (T-mobile) and is on Walmart's Family Mobile plan. It does come with WiFi Calling, but it says "Invalid SIM Card ERO5".
From what I remember, Family-Mobile runs through T-mobile's network and WiFi Calling does not cost T-mobile anything to provide us with Wi-Fi Calling. Any insights or solutions are greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Your sim card must be of a certain kind to allow the WiFi calling feature to work. For example, if a T-Mobile customer bought the s2 when it came out in 2011 and had an old/incompatible sim card, they would have to activate the new sim card that came with the purchased phone in order to be able to use the WiFi calling feature.
So a reasonable conclusion would be that the sim card you have currently in your device is NOT compatible. Unfortunately, I don't know the specifics, such as the name or kind of sim card you need, if u were to ask customer service for one. A description of your issue should suffice to let them know what it is that you need.
Hope I'm clear. Good luck.
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bzlik88 said:
Your sim card must be of a certain kind to allow the WiFi calling feature to work. For example, if a T-Mobile customer bought the s2 when it came out in 2011 and had an old/incompatible sim card, they would have to activate the new sim card that came with the purchased phone in order to be able to use the WiFi calling feature.
So a reasonable conclusion would be that the sim card you have currently in your device is NOT compatible. Unfortunately, I don't know the specifics, such as the name or kind of sim card you need, if u were to ask customer service for one. A description of your issue should suffice to let them know what it is that you need.
Hope I'm clear. Good luck.
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This is correct though the newer SIMs have been out since the first Samsung galaxy (vibrant) hit tmobile. I will say sometimes when I used to use ics ROM with Wi-Fi calling that some times it would throw an error and I would have to restart to get it running. You also need to usually login to the customer portal or call customer service and set the E911 address before it fully enables on the phone.
Wi-Fi calling is not that great, plenty of lag and other issues that make the call quality pretty bad even on great internet connections.
Especially with tmobile doing the $50 everything unlimited with no contact plan (and similar plans for contract phones), it's worth just going that way (tmobile even accepts customers with pretty bad credit so don't let that stop you).
If you want to stay with Wallys World for whatever reason I bet they also have a similar deal.
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Hello, I am a former Family Mobile service user and i am sorry to inform you that Family Mobile does not offer WiFi calling.

I had a Galaxy S 4G with wifi calling, and when I upgraded to the T989 a couple months ago, wifi calling wouldn't work with my sim card (though everything else worked). I went to the Tmo store and they gave me a new SIM for free, and now everything works.
So if FM does support wifi calling, you may just need a newer sim card.
and wifi calling works great for me. clear, and no echo. It's actually better than every other voip app I tried on the market. I'm on unlimited, but I have a very weak signal at home, and therefore must use wifi calling

I have WFMobile and it seems to keep ER05 on my phone beeps and rings it's annoying. I have WiFi calling turned off. I don't know how to get away from it.

Many retail mobiles have "Wifi Calling" function but not any menu entry to enable , There is a APP can check the hidden function and enable it if can use.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.widget7.wifi.calling

Wifi Calling With AT&T on N900-T Unlocked...Possible or not?

As I have experienced first hand, T-Mobile's wifi calling feature works amazing on my Note 3. The problem is, where I live, work and play we do not get any T-Mobile service above 2g, and mostly nothing at all. I'm actually confused as to why local stores are even selling the service. It simply doesn't work here. Anyhow, I had purchased a month of prepaid service with them because I don't get ANY service from any provider at my home (except Verizon, who comes in at 5 bars in my basement). The wifi calling feature was amazing for this one reason. I never missed a call, or text and life was good. Of course, the moment I left the house my $800.00 Note 3 turned into a very expensive makeup mirror for my wife because, like I mentioned, we don't get T-Mobile here, at all. I still have 2 weeks of the service active, and put the sim into my i-747 S3 for testing.
I'm currently running Hyperdrive RLS3.1 (NB4) on AT&T Go-Service on my Note 3.
What I'm asking is simple, or maybe it isn't -
I would like to know where I could find info on a REAL wifi calling service. Not these 3rd party apps that give you a new free #, etc. I'd like something that integrates into the phone, like TM Wifi calling does. After searching this topic on XDA, I found a few threads on SIP VoIP. I'd even be willing to give that a shot. If I have to invest a few dollars, that is also ok. Has anyone else successfully done this? Any better idea's or suggestions? I'm tired of not being able to make calls from my cell phone at home. I have looked into repeaters, extenders, etc, but that is for another thread, I suppose.
I know that the native wifi calling on my Note 3 will not work with AT&T, but there must be something that can work....
Thanks for any info or help anyone can provide.

Real WiFi calling has to be supported on the back end by the carrier.
You are going to be limited to a 3rd party solution.

That's what I use. I have to use magic jack.
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Pajar0913 said:
That's what I use. I have to use magic jack.
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I also started using magicjack on my phone. After trying out several voip SIP services with the native android app, I realized that it would never have the sound quality I needed.
This is all null and void now though. I retired my N900T and bought the Verizon Note 3 and never drop signal or lose LTE, even in my basement.

100% not possible. It relies on servers at T-Mobile's end. Plus the settings in the Wifi Calling app are set to T-Mobile's servers on top of that.