Gorilla Glass Not So Tough? - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

So I was wiping down my screen ad noticed the tiniest of a scratch on it. I've only dropped the phone twice and definitely not on anything like concrete, cement, or asphault. Infact, I think the hardest surface was tile. What gives?
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Scratch resistant didn't mean scratch proof. U only got a small scratch, if U dropped an evo on tile it would have between worse
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Sand... It makes little scratches on the screen and is basicly the only thing thatscratches it... Other then it being smashed lol...
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gmap516 said:
So I was wiping down my screen ad noticed the tiniest of a scratch on it. I've only dropped the phone twice and definitely not on anything like concrete, cement, or asphault. Infact, I think the hardest surface was tile. What gives?
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Why didn't you use a screen protector?
Next time you drop it on tile, this little scratch may become a weak point which ends up cracking the glass.

a piece of average sand will show your Gorilla Glass who's boss.
Use a screen protector...sure, the sand will eat that for lunch too, but, it's gotta do that before it'll get to your screen.
...and just cuz it's gorilla glass doesn't mean it won't break just as easy.

I do construction and tile is just as hard as concrete. I'm suprised the phine survived. Go sammy!

gmap516 said:
So I was wiping down my screen ad noticed the tiniest of a scratch on it. I've only dropped the phone twice and definitely not on anything like concrete, cement, or asphault. Infact, I think the hardest surface was tile. What gives?
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I can't believe you're shocked by this. You're lucky it was only a scratch.
"I only dropped my phone twice and now it's scratched, what gives?"
lmao

I've actually dropped my phone in the garage, twice, from about 3 1/2 feet off the ground...surprisingly not a single scratch on the glass. Unfortunately for the case itself, a couple micro dents, but nothing serious.
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It isn't bullet proof but it is pretty close. Never had a protector on my og epic not going to on this one either. Had my epic for a year and it always ended up in my pocket with keys etc. had a few minor scratches but not enough to affect
the look.
Unlike my wifes nexus that has a screen I would compare to butter.
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DexterDawg said:
It isn't bullet proof but it is pretty close. Never had a protector on my og epic not going to on this one either. Had my epic for a year and it always ended up in my pocket with keys etc. had a few minor scratches but not enough to affect
the look.
Unlike my wifes nexus that has a screen I would compare to butter.
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Only enough to affect the resale value, I think I'll stick with my protector

Bleh. I'm 100% anti screen protector. I dropped my old Epic many many times, and never had any problems. I work outside, not in an office all day, and beat my phone up pretty good, and never had any scratches. When I dropped my Epic in the toilet and had to send it in to assurion, we did a fun little test with a key on the screen. I couldn't get it to scratch, break, nothing, and I beat the crap out of it.
I've only dropped my Epic Touch once, and that was down two concrete steps at a TB Rays game. It exploded, with the battery and case going opposite directions, the crowd gasped... yet it came out like a champ. Still looks brand new.
I do hear a lot of people getting tiny scratches, I just don't know how. I guess like someone said, it's scratch resistant, not scratch proof.

jirafabo said:
Bleh. I'm 100% anti screen protector.
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Let me guess, you also don't believe in evolution and global warming?

I keep mine without screen protector or case. But I understand the benefits of having one. I'm super careful with my phone. Don't wanna mess with awesome samoled by covering it with plastic.
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I have a couple very tiny scratches that are only noticeable when you hold it at a certain angle and look at it. I'm gonna use the insurance and get it repaired when I have time.... just sucks that I have to send the phone off (Best buy insurance), but at least I'll get a loaner phone.

I don't believe in screen protectors either. I just can't stand the feeling of the "stickiness" of the screen condom...lol.
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I agree. I have a holster so my screen is always covered. When I bought my Evo I had the screen protector pre-installed. I never thought twice about it until I removed it 6 months later because of bubbles. WOW, the screen seemed so much brighter without it and my fingers just felt like they glided better.
I love this screen and wouldn't want anything on it that would make it less sharp.

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Let me guess, you also don't believe in evolution and global warming?
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Ha. Maybe I just don't like a piece of plastic thats going to look like **** in two months on my screen. I don't know,just never been a fan.
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have any of you tried the sgp ultra crystal screen protector?
everyone i talked to says they are amazing and that they feel like glass and are crystal clear.
just something to think about for those of you who don't like typical screen protectors.

jirafabo said:
Bleh. I'm 100% anti screen protector. I dropped my old Epic many many times, and never had any problems. I work outside, not in an office all day, and beat my phone up pretty good, and never had any scratches. When I dropped my Epic in the toilet and had to send it in to assurion, we did a fun little test with a key on the screen. I couldn't get it to scratch, break, nothing, and I beat the crap out of it.
I've only dropped my Epic Touch once, and that was down two concrete steps at a TB Rays game. It exploded, with the battery and case going opposite directions, the crowd gasped... yet it came out like a champ. Still looks brand new.
I do hear a lot of people getting tiny scratches, I just don't know how. I guess like someone said, it's scratch resistant, not scratch proof.
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the metal of the key is softer than the glass, try that with a handful of sand if you want to be underwhelmed with that gorilla glass.
I only say it repeatedly because, well, it's true... I have a friend who got a work-issued dInc, no screen protector. he was all "gorilla glass" this and that. Well, he plays volleyball once a week...He is notorious for making his cellphone screens unreadable...he blames it on change in his pocket. So he said for this phone he will keep his keys and change in the other pocket.
Two weeks later that dInc screen is SO trashed...I mean, I've had some cellphones for 3+ years of "I don't give a fnck" use that didn't look anywhere near as bad.
Got another friend who works in masonry...he's on his 3rd iphone4...he now uses an otterbox...which is trashed. He only replaced the first 2 cuz you couldn't even read anything on the screen anymore.
If no screen protector works for you, cool. I honestly don't see a brightness difference with it on or off....but then again some people use some pretty horrible screen protectors. I also want to assure that I get my $350 trade in for it when it's time to upgrade...which it is in another month or two.
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jirafabo said:
Ha. Maybe I just don't like a piece of plastic thats going to look like **** in two months on my screen. I don't know,just never been a fan.
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I dunno...the one the Radioshack guy put on my Evo didn't get replaced until a week before I traded it in for the Evo3D in June...and it still looked nearly perfect except for a tiny flap in one corner that just developed that month.

SirWise23 said:
I agree. I have a holster so my screen is always covered. When I bought my Evo I had the screen protector pre-installed. I never thought twice about it until I removed it 6 months later because of bubbles. WOW, the screen seemed so much brighter without it and my fingers just felt like they glided better.
I love this screen and wouldn't want anything on it that would make it less sharp.
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Actually those HTC screen protectors from sprint stores are horrible. They have always been.
These samsungs are pretty good though. They are oleophobic (or so it seems) and very clear.

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Biggest turd I have ever owned.

Coming from a evo. This Samsung is no match. The screen is easily scratched, crappy 3g, an over all pos. Of course its fast and the screen is huge and pretty but that is about it.
Sell it and go back to the evo. Problem solved.
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Thanks for trolling.
Reported.
I don't know how you treat your phone but I have a pretty good idea because it is an incredibly durable phone. How much are you dropping your phone and if you're that clumsy, why don't you have a durable case like Ballistic? I just don't really understand the point of your rant. The answers lie within.
How many turds have you purchased? Lol.
It's the same glass as the Evo, it's the same 3G service as the Evo (I was a launch-day-rooted-in-the-parking-lot-5-minutes-later Evo hardcore enthusiast)...the radio might not be as strong, but, I thought the same of my Evo3D...then I returned it and got back to my Evo and realized that's not the case....YMMV based on region, time of day and expections.
So, to sum it up...you left a legendary phone (The Evo4G) and had expectations through the roof. After getting this phone you decided that the same Gorilla Glass that was on your Evo4G wasn't as strong on a Samsung branded device, the Sprint 3G service that got destroyed by the Evo a year and a half ago was no longer as awesome as it was as when the Evo came out and those two factors make this the worst product ever sold for money....
oh yeah, I can't tell why, but, U MAD.
No case since October and I have no scratches. No dust under the screen, my speaker works,my volume rockers don't look like a 4yo put the phone together,my screen isn't seperating,and I pull about -5 dbm better signal than my buddies 3rd Evo. Sprint's 3g sucks....the phone has nothing to do with that.
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yruugly said:
Coming from a evo. This Samsung is no match. The screen is easily scratched, crappy 3g, an over all pos. Of course its fast and the screen is huge and pretty but that is about it.
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Tell 'em why you mad son... Tell e'm why mad...lol
Go back to the Evo then.
poppygt said:
No case since October and I have no scratches. No dust under the screen, my speaker works,my volume rockers don't look like a 4yo put the phone together,my screen isn't seperating,and I pull about -5 dbm better signal than my buddies 3rd Evo. Sprint's 3g sucks....the phone has nothing to do with that.
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...hahahahaha, as a launch-day Evo owner you just gave me a flashback of what the forums were like for the first month. I lucked out and got a perfect Evo that never had any of those problems and never had any single problem with any rom experimental, nightly or otherwise....nothing......but, holy crap, I remember the *****fests you just described. lol.
Very true, and most of them for the E3D launch as well....just add in crooked screens, yellow screens, broken battery covers and "won't turn back on"....
never owned a htc phone. never have. Never will. and always rock samsung. Even Google agrees there top of the line.
Somebody is PMSing...
yruugly said:
Coming from a evo. This Samsung is no match. The screen is easily scratched, crappy 3g, an over all pos. Of course its fast and the screen is huge and pretty but that is about it.
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Your the biggest turd on xda
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hmmm, its very hard to scratch glass (why do you think people take keys to their phone and people remove window tint with razors)
So obviously you're a troll because unless you're keeping diamonds in your pockets that screen isn't scratching
The OG evo is a great phone btw, I loved it after I got my 2nd one due to glass separation. Mine took a large beating of drops and what not the only this g wrong g with it after a year was a few nicks and the battery was horrid. This phone is nicer in almost every way. People complain about the plastic chassis but its so well put together it doesn't matter. Plus plastic is lighter and flexible
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yruugly said:
Coming from a evo. This Samsung is no match. The screen is easily scratched, crappy 3g, an over all pos. Of course its fast and the screen is huge and pretty but that is about it.
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I know you're a troll but I'll bite. I had the EVO myself and while it was a good phone, that phone is a MUCH bigger POS than the E4GT and it's not even close. Light leaking, phone cracking near the power button, and the phone looks like it is almost about to splitting in half! I barely had the phone for a year and I baby my phones (never dropped it once).
The E4GT is a much better phone in EVERY single way and it is not even close.
You know how many defects and cracked screens the evo suffers from? I would know as a sprint tech see it all.
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Evo4g is a dinosaur turd.
Well I own an evo and its far from a pos, yet it is getting old. That being said I came over to this forum to ask what's the average battery life is for the e4gt before root and after root with applied tweaks or scripts. I was thinking of picking one up in the next week or two. I just don't see my self waiting a whole other year until my upgrade. Anyway thanks in advance.
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Battery life is great, myself coming from a long line of HTC's I was very impressed.
bbedward said:
hmmm, its very hard to scratch glass (why do you think people take keys to their phone and people remove window tint with razors)
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Well....yes and no.
As long as you have something on the Mohs scale that is harder than what is doing the scratching you will be fine. Gorilla glass is impervious to damage from pretty much everything except diamonds and sand.
Sand.
SAND.
If you have no screen protector and dusty pockets you will eventually scratch your gorilla glass. Silica is harder than gorilla glass...it will tear it to shreds. I have a friend with a Droid Incredible....Gorilla Glass....plays a lot of volleyball. It took him, oh, 2 weeks? Tops? Maybe not even that long....the phone looked years old. Keys? sure, scratch the fnck out of your screen with keys....metal is always going to be softer than glass.
Any One ever think that the e4gt is the love child of the evo 4g, galaxy nexus and epic 4g?
Just sayin.
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To screen protect or not screen protect...

To all my fellow HTC One X owners - are you using protection? LOL
I'm simply asking because I was wondering if anyone is going commando with the phone, and whether the screen has shown any scratches as a result? I know the phone is supposed to be sporting the all-powerful Gorilla Glass 2, but I don't trust it yet and so have put a screen protector on the front. This dulls the lustre of the screen a bit, so I am thinking of removing it.
How about yourselves? What has been your own personal choice?
you never know.
I got mine protected.
i saw a post about someone having scratches already. Then I viewed the crazy video of the gorilla glass2 scratch test performed by one *FINE* lady here in xda.
I decided to protect it then. the screen protector doesn't protect the whole screen though.
Edit: have to rephrase she's here now.
Sybregunne said:
i saw a post about someone having scratches already. Then I viewed the crazy video of the gorilla glass2 scratch test performed by one crazy lady here in xda.
I decided to protect it then. the screen protector doesn't protect the whole screen though.
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Heres the crazy lady - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1590172
I used to have a screen protector on my sg2, then took it off after a year and it looked like a brand new phone, felt like i was missing out on the beautiful screen. I was going to get one for the one x, but I have extra insurance included in my phone contract against any kind of damage, accidental etc.. and it seems like it'll be hard to completely cover the glass, especially on the sides as I've seen on the forums that some people have had issues getting it to stay stuck.
I treat most things like they are a new born child when I first get them, then after a while, you get comfortable. I don't want to have this sexy looking phone and cover it with screen protectors and back covers - even if it did cost a lot of money.
one crazy lady here!
nah i'm not going to bother with a screen protector after my test i think....only thing i'm really concerned about is that camera lense. Would like to know what it's made of and how i can protect it (without sticking gel cases on the back etc)
It's funny that on these scratch tests the device never has any issues.
But reading on the forum some people do have scratches etc. just because they have keys and phone in same pocket... Makes you wonder, what kinda test did the scratchtester do with there HaitchTC One eX (Hahaha you crazy british people).
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It's funny that on these scratch tests the device never has any issues.
But reading on the forum some people do have scratches etc. just because they have keys and phone in same pocket... Makes you wonder, what kinda test did the scratchtester do with there HaitchTC One eX (Hahaha you crazy british people).
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My right pocket on any kind of clothing is my dedicated phone pocket. I put nothing in there with it aside from my smooth leather wallet. If you put keys in there and other sharp stuff, then it's your own fault in my opinion! You don't throw your house keys at your television or computer do you? So why throw them on your pride and joy mobile phone! hehee
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one crazy lady here!
nah i'm not going to bother with a screen protector after my test i think....only thing i'm really concerned about is that camera lense. Would like to know what it's made of and how i can protect it (without sticking gel cases on the back etc)
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Why not get a screen protector and cut a small circle out of it and stick it over the camera?
Just got mine in the post, I'm going bare back!
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craftycarper1 said:
Why not get a screen protector and cut a small circle out of it and stick it over the camera?
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i think someone else did that and it didn't stick too well...also degraded image quality a little i think
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xmoo said:
It's funny that on these scratch tests the device never has any issues.
But reading on the forum some people do have scratches etc. just because they have keys and phone in same pocket... Makes you wonder, what kinda test did the scratchtester do with there HaitchTC One eX (Hahaha you crazy british people).
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LOL i attacked it with keys....as a test before i filmed i actually attacked it with a pair of nail scissors to make sure keys would be fine . Trust me i have been totally obsessing over the possibility of scratches...but nobody i have shown it to, and myself cant find a mark on it!
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i think someone else did that and it didn't stick too well...also degraded image quality a little i think
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LOL i attacked it with keys....as a test before i filmed i actually attacked it with a pair of nail scissors to make sure keys would be fine . Trust me i have been totally obsessing over the possibility of scratches...but nobody i have shown it to, and myself cant find a mark on it!
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I'm not balming you. But same **** happend to me with HD2, DHD, SGS2.
Gorilla Glass my ass...
After owning the phone for like 6 months, check the screen again, can garantee you, you will find some small sand scratches.
You'll probably end up with scratches due to sand particles that somehow end up in your pockets. Basically metal won't scratch the glass, but sand will. I won't bother with a screen protector, but I do expect to see at least a couple of microscratches at some point in the near future.
To be honest the first one is the only one that hurts. After that it's bearable.
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To be honest the first one is the only one that hurts. After that it's bearable.
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So true!
I dunno - technology these days. Screens can stand up to an assault from nail scissors. What's it going to be for Gorilla Glass 3? Attacks from ninjas armed with samurai swords?
I did
I got the original HTC screen films from an O2 shop yesterday. Went on easily and did not degrade the image quality or the touch sensitivity.
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So true!
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@moo what's with your avatar. Put some clothes on :-D
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SORF said:
I got the original HTC screen films from an O2 shop yesterday. Went on easily and did not degrade the image quality or the touch sensitivity.
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I have the HTC branded screen protector on my Desire. It's been on since the day I got the phone around 18mths ago along with a case-mate Tough. The protector still looks like new, with one small scratch on it.
Having said that, I'm still on the fence about the One X screen. I'll probably go for another case-mate Tough as it has been worth the money on the Desire for the protection.
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@moo what's with your avatar. Put some clothes on :-D
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That's mee showing my muscles xD
SORF said:
I got the original HTC screen films from an O2 shop yesterday. Went on easily and did not degrade the image quality or the touch sensitivity.
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I didn't like the official screen protectors, stuck onto the piece of card with some adhesive, by the time i had pulled them off (as carefully as possible) it left a dint in my screen protectors, both ended up with a horrible air bubble where the adhesive had warped the film.
I might just get a nice case and stick with it.
I'm just waiting to see whether i'm keeping it or selling it, i've been appalled by the battery life so far, but the screen seems to be the culprit, at minimum brightness, the screen eats 1% of the battery for ever 5-10 minutes it is on, hopeless when you're playing games, anyone know any solution to this apart from never playing games on the phone?
Wat screen protectors do you guys use?
I have the official HTC ones on mine. but they dont wrap around the edges. Which causes it to sort of "meh". The problem is that the edges of (my) official screen protector dont connect with the screen.
So I am wondering if there are any other brands that do not have this problem and I can order on ebay/amazon or some other website (I live in belgium )

Scratched Already!

UUUUGH
I woke up this morning in a rush, threw my phone in my pocket. Ran out the door to class.
Realized after class when a friend wanted to look at my phone they were with my keys! There are all these little microscratches and a few bigger ones DEAD CENTER.
It isn't too noticeable until light his it from a certain direction.
But I cannot freakin believe that I let that happen. I usually am completely OCD about these things, and I normally put screen protectors and cases on my phone the MINUTE I open the damn thing.
Hell - I do it for all my devices. My laptop, Vita, my gaming consoles, I have protective stuff for everything!
The Note 2 didn't have a Zagg yet, and they list it on their page but it isn't featured or "imaged". The last time I did that with Zagg, the damn thing came to be unpunctured - aka I had to manually cut the material out with a knife (hard as hell to do, near impossible without stretching!)
So I waited one day too long it seems. Screw me right?
I'm so annoyed and bothered now. Brand new phone, brand new scratches. First phone screen scratch issue I've had in over 4 years.
Does anyone know any real solutions (aka not toothpaste -.-) that I could try to buffer them out?
Return it for another color if u dont mind it.
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Return it for another color if u dont mind it.
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Have you returned phones to ATT before? Im not familiar with the process and how easy it may or may not be.
If you get a replacement, they do sell the Zagg Shields for the Note II at Best Buy. When I first bought my Note 2, I immediately drove to Best Buy and picked up the HD version of the Zagg Shield for it! It definitely looks good on the phone. They had the smudge free version of the shield but I'm not sure if it lowers the clarity...
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Have you returned phones to ATT before? Im not familiar with the process and how easy it may or may not be.
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If you're within your 14 day return window, they will just charge you $35 restock fee and give you a new one. Or .. just suck it up.. slap on a screen protector now and you won't even notice the scratches.
Damn, what the hell are your keys made of? Steel can't even scratch tempered glass let alone gorilla glass 2.
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Damn, what the hell are your keys made of? Steel can't even scratch tempered glass let alone gorilla glass 2.
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Hate to say it - I had the SAME issue.. This is more like spider monkey glass, nowhere near as strong as they say it is.
Mine has a couple small scratches from being in my pocket as well..
pirgulation said:
Hate to say it - I had the SAME issue.. This is more like spider monkey glass, nowhere near as strong as they say it is.
Mine has a couple small scratches from being in my pocket as well..
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+ 1 got the flip cover as soon as I could. Got it now and now I dont need no interfering screen protecter
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Happened to me the 2nd day I had my Note.
I put it in my backpack for less than 15 minutes in the afternoon. THAT NIGHT I got my new screen protectors in the mail and as I was going to apply the screen I noticed the scratches all over the screen.
The glass is NOT scratch proof by any means just because it is gorilla glass. Sure typical metal wont scratch the screen but just about anything else will.
I took it back to ATT and they switched it for a new one, no questions asked for the restocking price of 35 bucks.
I slapped a screen protector on my new Note the minute I opened the box.
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Have had phone for a month now and just noticed a 1cm scratch thats barely visible with the eye but can be felt with my fingernail. No idea what caused is ive been babying this. Thats what I get for believing in gorilla glass. Ordered JLG today to prevent future occurences
If it makes you feel any better I cracked the glass completely... I'm also very careful with my phones. It took a 3 foot fall onto pavement (hands not used the size yet) and the glass is completely shattered... it wasn't even 24 hours old. Now I am waiting fr the repair place to get the full lcd+touch+glass screen back in stock - will cost me over $300 to have it fixed.
Sooo - little scratches on your screen...
I'm not sure what kind of glass Sammie is using on the Note 2 but it seems pretty fragile. My original galaxy and moto Atrix handled much worse falls without any damage whatsoever.
OmegaNemesis28 said:
UUUUGH
I woke up this morning in a rush, threw my phone in my pocket. Ran out the door to class.
Realized after class when a friend wanted to look at my phone they were with my keys! There are all these little microscratches and a few bigger ones DEAD CENTER.
It isn't too noticeable until light his it from a certain direction.
But I cannot freakin believe that I let that happen. I usually am completely OCD about these things, and I normally put screen protectors and cases on my phone the MINUTE I open the damn thing.
Hell - I do it for all my devices. My laptop, Vita, my gaming consoles, I have protective stuff for everything!
The Note 2 didn't have a Zagg yet, and they list it on their page but it isn't featured or "imaged". The last time I did that with Zagg, the damn thing came to be unpunctured - aka I had to manually cut the material out with a knife (hard as hell to do, near impossible without stretching!)
So I waited one day too long it seems. Screw me right?
I'm so annoyed and bothered now. Brand new phone, brand new scratches. First phone screen scratch issue I've had in over 4 years.
Does anyone know any real solutions (aka not toothpaste -.-) that I could try to buffer them out?
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plemen said:
If it makes you feel any better I cracked the glass completely... I'm also very careful with my phones. It took a 3 foot fall onto pavement (hands not used the size yet) and the glass is completely shattered... it wasn't even 24 hours old. Now I am waiting fr the repair place to get the full lcd+touch+glass screen back in stock - will cost me over $300 to have it fixed.
Sooo - little scratches on your screen...
I'm not sure what kind of glass Sammie is using on the Note 2 but it seems pretty fragile. My original galaxy and moto Atrix handled much worse falls without any damage whatsoever.
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Supposed to be gorilla glass 2
The GN2 Gglass debate has already taken place.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1958329
It scratches on every device its been used on so screen protector up or Flip cover to avoid screen damage.
hehe I got lucky on my Epic Touch 4G no scratch ,ding or dents.
GN2 screen is larger more prone to damage so I'm using flip cover protection on it.
I recommend the Tridea case - http://www.amazon.com/Black-Samsung-Premium-T-Mobile-Unlocked/dp/B009SNTHPO/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Yeah I'm sure it's not the phone but just having more screen to scratch/crack etc. I always go caseless and without screen protector but I am buying a coat off armour for this sucker once it's repaired
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The GN2 Gglass debate has already taken place.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1958329
It scratches on every device its been used on so screen protector up or Flip cover to avoid screen damage.
hehe I got lucky on my Epic Touch 4G no scratch ,ding or dents.
GN2 screen is larger more prone to damage so I'm using flip cover protection on it.
I recommend the Tridea case - http://www.amazon.com/Black-Samsung-Premium-T-Mobile-Unlocked/dp/B009SNTHPO/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
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I have also scratched my screen and do not know how it happened, everyone beware(be aware?)...
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Have you returned phones to ATT before? Im not familiar with the process and how easy it may or may not be.
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I think if you are within 14 days you can still exchange it. I did it from bestbuy, I had 60 days though (silver member)
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Iv had the phone for alomost a month ....bare back no scraches
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If you get a replacement, they do sell the Zagg Shields for the Note II at Best Buy. When I first bought my Note 2, I immediately drove to Best Buy and picked up the HD version of the Zagg Shield for it! It definitely looks good on the phone. They had the smudge free version of the shield but I'm not sure if it lowers the clarity...
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It makes the pen drag significantly, the anti smudge ones I mean. I had to take it off and return it, it was too annoying.
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722ish said:
It makes the pen drag significantly, the anti smudge ones I mean. I had to take it off and return it, it was too annoying.
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I think you just answered a question I had in another thread...you were able yo return your zagg to best buy with no problems?
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You might try one of these. I have never used them but they claim to fill in 95% of the scratches on your screen and they do have one for the note 2.
http://xoskins.com/

Oil/fingerprints on your screen (about 8 months into use)

Hi!
Particularly to people who've owned their GS3 for a number of months: has your screen become a oil/fingerprint magnet? It didn't used to be one in the beginning, but now I get it all the time (I got it in July 2012).
Sometimes, I get that odd rainbow effect when the oil just kind of "sits" on the screen. Disgusting, I know, but my hands aren't that oily...it just seems to pick up a lot more of it than it used to!
I just wipe it on my pants (lol): what do you guys do, if yours has this issue?
I think that's a property inherent to every touchscreen. Good thing about this one, though, is that it's very easy to clean.
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the oleophobic coating has probably worn off
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Hi!
Particularly to people who've owned their GS3 for a number of months: has your screen become a oil/fingerprint magnet? It didn't used to be one in the beginning, but now I get it all the time (I got it in July 2012).
Sometimes, I get that odd rainbow effect when the oil just kind of "sits" on the screen. Disgusting, I know, but my hands aren't that oily...it just seems to pick up a lot more of it than it used to!
I just wipe it on my pants (lol): what do you guys do, if yours has this issue?
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I have a zagg HD invisible skin. Super easy to clean. Don't even know its there.
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Its developed micro scratches that are holding in the oils more.
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@CZ Eddie
If I tilt just right in the light, I do have some faint tiny scratches on the screen, but the "finger smears" are all over the screen (i.e. not localized to the scratches). But, I can see them playing a small part...
@dLo GSR
The oleophobic coating! That actually makes a ton of sense, as it just attracts oil like crazy. I Google'd it and it's a known problem with Apple iPhones and iPads (even the iPhone 5's manual says the coating will wear off!). Samsung's manual is worthless in this regard, but I don't think they've got anything better than Apple.
@KorGuy
Yeah, I think I have two options: screen protector (which will also protect against scratches) or re-apply the oleophobic coating (as stated through this iFixIt guide). Hmm...I need to sleep on this (the screen protector looks a lot simpler, haha).
~Ibrahim~
ikjadoon said:
Hi!
Particularly to people who've owned their GS3 for a number of months: has your screen become a oil/fingerprint magnet? It didn't used to be one in the beginning, but now I get it all the time (I got it in July 2012).
Sometimes, I get that odd rainbow effect when the oil just kind of "sits" on the screen. Disgusting, I know, but my hands aren't that oily...it just seems to pick up a lot more of it than it used to!
I just wipe it on my pants (lol): what do you guys do, if yours has this issueOTE]
Yea man mines the same way. When I first got it, it was very resistant to fingerprints now one text message and it's nasty! Have you used any cleaners? I asked my gf to clean my screen and she used windex and I think that may have assisted in taking it off Now I'm using Spigen Ultra Nano Clear and it's great! Anyway, keep me updated if you reapply oleophobic coating. Would like to know how it works!
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Wilcox12 said:
ikjadoon said:
Hi!
Particularly to people who've owned their GS3 for a number of months: has your screen become a oil/fingerprint magnet? It didn't used to be one in the beginning, but now I get it all the time (I got it in July 2012).
Sometimes, I get that odd rainbow effect when the oil just kind of "sits" on the screen. Disgusting, I know, but my hands aren't that oily...it just seems to pick up a lot more of it than it used to!
I just wipe it on my pants (lol): what do you guys do, if yours has this issueOTE]
Yea man mines the same way. When I first got it, it was very resistant to fingerprints now one text message and it's nasty! Have you used any cleaners? I asked my gf to clean my screen and she used windex and I think that may have assisted in taking it off Now I'm using Spigen Ultra Nano Clear and it's great! Anyway, keep me updated if you reapply oleophobic coating. Would like to know how it works!
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Oh, HOLY SNIPPETS. I totally forgot; about a month ago, I used a lens cleaner on the screen! I just checked it....90% alcohol. That probably made this a little premature. Shucks. Whale, that's not the worst thing to happen, haha.
Totally! It might be a few weeks until I get everything, but I'll deliver with either the screen protector I chose or how the reapplying of the coating went.
Cool beans. Thank you, mates!
~Ibrahim~
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dLo GSR said:
the oleophobic coating has probably worn off
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This is exactly what has happened. For this reason, I don't clean my screen unless absolutely necessary.
you have two options, buy this http://www.amazon.com/Anti-fingerprint-Oleophobic-SmartPhone-necessary-yourself/dp/B008HVBU9O
or just apply RainX, it will make it more easy to clean.
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you have two options, buy this http://www.amazon.com/Anti-fingerprint-Oleophobic-SmartPhone-necessary-yourself/dp/B008HVBU9O
or just apply RainX, it will make it more easy to clean.
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I used to have Ghost Armor, but after it got all yellow and orange peely, I threw in the trash. Now I use a super cheap screen protector that came with my really nice case, but its a fingerprint magnet.
Can I just apply RainX to it and it will be better? I have RainX in my garage.
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you have two options, buy this http://www.amazon.com/Anti-fingerprint-Oleophobic-SmartPhone-necessary-yourself/dp/B008HVBU9O
or just apply RainX, it will make it more easy to clean.
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Right...I didn't know about RainX working here (wouldn't it stop hydrophillic things, like water, but not hydrophobic things, like oil?), but it also only lasts 3-4 months on a car (http://www.rainx.com/tips-information/faqs/), so maybe 1 year on a phone? How do you know it's safe to use on the phone?
Yes, the Fusso I listed above; it again only lasts for 3-6 months. Here's a review posted last week of someone using it on their iPad: generally positive, but a commenter also mentions some car waxes as cheaper alternatives.
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the oleophobic coating has probably worn off
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I didn't think the GS3 had an oleophobic coating.
Is there any way to prevent this? or should I just keep cleaning it?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003WQMYN0/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/180-5840696-1177505?tag=vglnk-c1061-20
Cleaner that adds a finger proof coating
Hesitant to try a product intended for Apple products...
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003WQMYN0/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/180-5840696-1177505?tag=vglnk-c1061-20
Cleaner that adds a finger proof coating
Hesitant to try a product intended for Apple products...
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Since iPhone also uses gorilla glass I wouldn't think it would be a problem. But I'm still waiting on someone to try these products first!
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Is there any way to prevent this? or should I just keep cleaning it?
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From what I've read the best way to clean your screen is to use distilled water and a microfiber cloth. Supposedly the toxins in tap water can be harmful to your screen. You can get a gallon of distilled water at the grocery store for like 70cents, which is what I've been doing since I bought my screen protector and so far oleophobic coating is still intact!
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Unless you're living somewhere where the tap water is not treated, there shouldn't be any toxins in your tap water. If there are, you've got much bigger problems than oily smartphone screens... There will be some minerals in there and maybe fluoride. I doubt there's anything in tap water that would damage your screen, not that there's anything wrong with using distilled water. In either case, a damp microfibre cloth or a drop of water on your screen wiped with a microfibre cloth should be very effective at cleaning the screen and probably much safer than alcohol or solvent based cleaners (although the literature I've read on Gorilla glass suggests it's resistant to alcohol, acetone and a number of other chemicals, but maybe over time they do wear down the coating).
In any case, I'm really responding to this thread because I recently discovered this product:
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/HOW-TO-COAT-Anti-Fingerprint-Oleophobic-Coating-by-yourself/9682/
Purchase at: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008HVBU9O?tag=ifixitam-20
Here's one with a few reviews: http://www.amazon.com/API-Fingerpri...&ie=UTF8&qid=1361976179&sr=1-1&keywords=fusso
I personally wouldn't put a lot of faith in anything from Monster (maybe they're better now but to me they will always be the company selling ludicrously overpriced HDMI cables and suing anyone with "monster" anywhere in their name regardless of context). But this product looks interesting. It seems to be similar to the original coating used on Gorilla and similar glasses.
I'm wondering if it adds scratch resistance and reduces visibility of existing scratches. If so, I think I'd prefer adding a coat of this every 3 months than using a screen protector. I have a semi-broken HTC phone with the original Gorilla Glass which happens to have a small but visible scratch on it. I think I'm going to order one of these and use the HTC screen to test it on. If it works well I'll try in on my S3 which has a much bigger scratch. I suspect it will be very difficult to photograph but I'll post results when I get it.
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I didn't think the GS3 had an oleophobic coating.
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or just apply RainX, it will make it more easy to clean.
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I like that Rain-X option...
I'll probably even try some Aquapel on my good ol' GS1 next time I treat my windshield! :good:
Wouldn't it be simpler to put on a screen protector? I've had a screen protector on mine since day 1 (not even costly, I think I got like 3 for less than $10), and its still going strong... hard to say its even there

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I recently got the Tech Armor Nexus 7 (2nd GENERATION) Tablet Premium High Definition (HD) Clear Screen Protector in the mail and immediately applied the screen protector to my screen only to find myself having severe sensitivity problems. I am forced to press the screen with force and that also sometimes does not work. This makes the screen unresponsive to touch and makes the Nexus 7 a hassle to use. The moment i took off the protector, i recovered normal touch capabilities.
I SERIOUSLY RECOMMEND YOU DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY ON THIS LIKE ME! :crying:
EDIT: Took a video of my nexus 7 with the tech armor screen protector
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To save time and to give a quick response, I rooted my nexus 7 and flashed the new update to my tablet. I realized that it was not the screen protector but it was a software issue with the tablet itself. I wish to apologize for making such a rash remark about the screen protector by jumping to conclusions by blaming it.
Screen protectors are a thing of the past anyway. I've gone 8 months with my Nexus 4 without a screen protector and it doesn't have even the slightest scratch. Even my 2012 Nexus 7 lasted a full year and was flawless when I sold it. I don't baby my devices either. A case I can understand for drop protection, but screen protectors are just silly these days.
sn0warmy said:
Screen protectors are a thing of the past anyway. I've gone 8 months with my Nexus 4 without a screen protector and it doesn't have even the slightest scratch. Even my 2012 Nexus 7 lasted a full year and was flawless when I sold it. I don't baby my devices either. A case I can understand for drop protection, but screen protectors are just silly these days.
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What a silly response. just because YOU didn't get them doesn't mean others won't. read the threads on the gs4 forum, with its "gorilla glass" of people who have scratches after one day.
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This device also doesn't have gorilla Glass it has scratch resistant glass which is a step down. I for one would rather be safe than sorry and I can't recommend bestskinsever enough. No touch sensitivity problems with bse screen protectors :thumbup:.
>^.^< Sent from meow HTC One which is like catnip to me atm
I never use screen protectors either... Except for this device.
After a few days of just using it at home, I noted some micro scratches forming. Got a screen protector that same day. So yeah, I don't think a screen protector is silly at all.
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I don't see the reason for screen protectors unless they actually protect your screen from things like a brick being dropped on the scree. I've owned a rooted & ROM's NookColor, Nexus 7 OG, Nexus 7 '13 and 5 smart phones including my current Samsung S4. I have not used a screen "protector" on any of them and haven't gotten a scratch on a single one of them. Now granted I put my tablets/phones in a case when not in use and I don't when finished using them sling them toward the couch like a Frisbee but I use my devices probably as hard if not harder than most.
Screen "protectors" to me just seem like a way for companies to put your money in their wallet.
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I don't see the reason for screen protectors unless they actually protect your screen from things like a brick being dropped on the scree. I've owned a rooted & ROM's NookColor, Nexus 7 OG, Nexus 7 '13 and 5 smart phones including my current Samsung S4. I have not used a screen "protector" on any of them and haven't gotten a scratch on a single one of them. Now granted I put my tablets/phones in a case when not in use and I don't when finished using them sling them toward the couch like a Frisbee but I use my devices probably as hard if not harder than most.
Screen "protectors" to me just seem like a way for companies to put your money in their wallet.
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For me Speigen ultra crystal are always good. No problems with responsiveness or messing up the look of the screen and then i know when im ready to sell my device there are no scratches anywhere. I'm glad you havent gotten any scratches, but its just too easy to get micro scratches not to spend a few dollars to make sure things stay nice.
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Screen "protectors" to me just seem like a way for companies to put your money in their wallet.
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Got it in one! Screen sticky-back-plastic is the 21st Century equivalent of snake oil.
And how do these 'companies' advertise? By posting to forums such as this one. So some little shill bleats he has a scratch and all the sheep follow his lead and cover a beautiful piece of kit with tacky-back-plastic.
If you're really a clutz get a full case.
I noticed my screens sensitivity declined when I installed my official Asus SP. I actually went through 2 cause one was dented the first time out of the box.
Both caused the issue BUT after a few hours it was back to normal. Might just have to set.
Wet apply is a big one that needs to set... typically 24 hours. Capacitive screens run off electrical signals from your body to detect touch. Needless-to-say, water and electric don't mix. Once it cures it will be use able.
Make note that the official Asus is a dry apply and it also affected touch sensitivity for a few hours. Applied at night and woke up good.
Also, this thread is not about whether you prefer a SP or not. I personally sell my devices off for Like New. I'm not going to risk a scratch ruining $50 in my pocket next year. Plus Matte screen protectors are fingerprint resistive and anti glare. They also have a great tactile "paper" feel that I prefer. No having to wipe it down every 5 min and I don't feel embarrassed handing it over to a coworker. Different Strokes.
Back to topic. Go
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Until screens are scratch PROOF (gorilla glass is scratch resistant) I will use a screen protector. The couple dollars they cost are worth at least the piece of mind knowing you don't have to worry about sand or something else causing a hairline scratch in your screen, especially since I usually sell my devices and screen condition is a major factor in resale value.
Anyways, back on topic, has anyone else got a TA protector and had the same experience? Other than the review on Amazon which is probably this same user, the others don't have this problem, just issue with installation or alignment. I've got one on my GS3 and haven't had any issues.
Installed Tech Armor SP yesterday
I got my tech Armor protectors yesterday. I haven't noticed any sensitivity problems. It is kind of "sticky", but that seems to be getting better with a little more use. Overall I'm happy with the Tech Armor screen protectors. I use a stylus pretty regularly so wanted something on the screen *just in case*. It's very clear, no rainbowing that I've noticed and fit wasn't an issue on mine. I used the "screen door" method and a can of air, it went on clean and clear.
If I notice any problems later, I'll update my post
I got my "snake oil" for a buck at dollar tree. Really happy with it, too. Hasn't affected my screen sensitivity in the least, and I was surprised to find out I prefer the matte finish it gives the screen. And no more micro scratches
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In my opinion, the only people who say screen protectors aren't needed are either
1- extremely rich, and just toss out their device if it gets a scratch
2- don't care how their devices look
3- not capable of putting one on properly, and just say they're not needed simply because they aren't capable of the install
Anyone with the intelligence of at least a 4th grade level knows that gorilla glass or "scratch resistant" glass can easily be scratched, even during light use while you're trying to be careful. Screen protectors are just an easy and cheap way to keep your devices looking pristine!
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stanglifemike said:
In my opinion, the only people who say screen protectors aren't needed are either
1- extremely rich, and just toss out their device if it gets a scratch
2- don't care how their devices look
3- not capable of putting one on properly, and just say they're not needed simply because they aren't capable of the install
Anyone with the intelligence of at least a 4th grade level knows that gorilla glass or "scratch resistant" glass can easily be scratched, even during light use while you're trying to be careful. Screen protectors are just an easy and cheap way to keep your devices looking pristine!
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1) The entire device is $230 ($200 with a discount from online retailers). It's not exactly a Porsche. Anyone with a GF/wife knows that a single night out can easily equate to this amount.
2) I am more OCD than you can imagine. A noticeable scratch really would bother the hell out of me.
3) This is somewhat accurate. I'm terrible at installing them perfectly and in my past I've gone through upwards of $50 for screen protectors for a single device. After spending probably $100+ on screen protectors alone over the years, I'd rather just leave that money in the bank and buy a new device if I really feel that it gets scratched to the point that I can't bare to look at it. And you have to keep in mind that even with some screen scratches you could easily sell it for 70%+ of what the device is worth brand new, which would greatly offset the cost of a new one.
I have a tendency to throw my phone in my girlfriend's purse with keys etc. and lay it face down on wood, granite, and metal counters and tables. The silver bezel of the phone is scratched up like crazy and the back glass has a few big scratches too. But the screen is still flawless after 8 months.
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Anyone with the intelligence of at least a 4th grade level knows that gorilla glass or "scratch resistant" glass can easily be scratched, even during light use while you're trying to be careful.
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Let's keep it friendly!
I must say I wonder about the bona fides of any one so passionate for a cause. A purveyor of snake oil one wonders?
Well I still picked up a TA protector, it will arrive tomorrow and I will report back on how well it works. Assuming it doesn't actually cause sensitivity issuea, its still the best deal compared to what else is out there - $6 for 3 protectors that come with free lifetime replacements (that don't require you to send the old ones back).
And for the guy who said he's wasted $50+ trying to get protectors installed perfectly, go to a Best Buy or a mall and have them install it for you. You'll pay a little bit more but if they put it on wrong it comes out of their pocket. Plus if it ever gets scratched up you can take it back there and get a new one put on for free usually.
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Let's keep it friendly!
I must say I wonder about the bona fides of any one so passionate for a cause. A purveyor of snake oil one wonders?
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How was that unfriendly? You mean to tell to tell me that there are adults with smartphones/tablets who think their screen is unscratchable?!? I don't think so. That makes me a believer of snake oils!!?? I think not. I just have common sense...
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croques said:
...So some little shill bleats he has a scratch and all the sheep follow his lead...
...If you're really a clutz get a full case...
Let's keep it friendly!
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I lol'd. Practice what you preach, brother. I believe the first one in this thread calling people names was you
I also have historically not used a screen protector for most of the reasons listed here... Especially that, in my experience, I simply have never needed one. Usually keep my phones for close to a year, and have never ever had a noticeable scratch. But that doesn't mean I never saw the value in them for people that needed them. As soon as I realized that the screen on my shiny new n7fhd had a couple of slightly noticeable scratches(it's my real experience, regardless of if anyone feels the inexplicable need to call me a shill), I snagged one up.
It's kind of sad how something as mundane as whether a device needs a screen protector or not can get people at each other's throats.
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shinkinrui said:
It's kind of sad how something as mundane as whether a device needs a screen protector or not can get people at each other's throats.
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What is sad is that Joe Public fails to recognize that opinion formers with their pay-masters agenda post to web sites.

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