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Is it possible to listen to mp3's via the bluetooth headset?

I searched the forum but didn't find an answer.

No, But nokia9500 can

There is a possiblity...
I have found a software company that has developed a bluetooth audio redirector that will send all audio to the bluetooth headset (at least that is what they indicate). Unfortunately they are an OEM outfit only, so don't sell retail, nor is their product available thru any normal source. I have made a case to them to allow me to test thier product and if it works, then see how we can make it available to the members of this forum. The salesguy I talked to seemed to think that a way might be found to make this happen.
My desire is to be able to hear my GPS navigation prompts via the bluetooth headset rather than having to rely on the speaker or putting on a wired headset, but the goal is the same...get ALL audio on the PPC to a BT headset.
I will update when I know more
David

Go David!
Make our dreams become tue!

Re: There is a possiblity...
dtidmore said:
I have found a software company that has developed a bluetooth audio redirector that will send all audio to the bluetooth headset (at least that is what they indicate).
David
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I hope this is not an external dongle that is attached to the Audio port. I think there are quite a number of this type of devices out there already.
Personally, I am still hopeful that the BT chip in our device is adequate and all that we need is the software and a good stereo BT headset.

I posted this already in other threads, but thought you might be interested.
I have no idea how this should work.
Atinav’s Bluetooth Audio Driver is also available for Windows CE for use in Pocket PCs and handheld devices. It enables any legacy audio application on the Pocket PC/Handheld device to communicate with a Bluetooth headset, eliminating the use of a wired headset and sound card driver in the Pocket PC/Handheld device
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Works over any SCO-enabled Bluetooth card
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http://www.avelink.com/Bluetooth/Products/AudioDriver/index.htm

Re: There is a possiblity...
dtidmore said:
I have found a software company that has developed a bluetooth audio redirector that will send all audio to the bluetooth headset (at least that is what they indicate). Unfortunately they are an OEM outfit only, so don't sell retail, nor is their product available thru any normal source. I have made a case to them to allow me to test thier product and if it works, then see how we can make it available to the members of this forum. The salesguy I talked to seemed to think that a way might be found to make this happen.
My desire is to be able to hear my GPS navigation prompts via the bluetooth headset rather than having to rely on the speaker or putting on a wired headset, but the goal is the same...get ALL audio on the PPC to a BT headset.
I will update when I know more
David
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Please do let us know if you hear anything.
thanks
nya

Not a dongle
The product is totally software and yes, it is the avilink BT Audio for Windows CE as mentioned in this and another thread. I found the company previously, but like I said, their business model is to OEM the software for integration with other packages, NOT sell retail or a standalone product. They are NOT setup to support the product at a retail level. They don't even have a way to sell directly to anyone. In talking, they clearly indicated that if a market existed then a way would be found to support it, so that was an indication that they might reconsider their OEM only stance. I do NOT have a committment from them to even test the product, but the discussions have been encouraging. I don't think that everyone blasting them with requests will help at this point, especially given the business model they currently employ. We did discuss pricing and all I will say is that they think highly of their product and while not astronomical, it is out of line with other PPC non-application software by a significant amount. I would be curious as to what this group thinks would be a fair price for the capability?
David

their product works only on ipaq.. i installed it on pda2k and it said this is not ipaq~!!!

I have seen that in the Ipaqs, to enable the Bluetooth Headset for the applications, all we had to do was to change 2 registry values:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Widcomm\BtConfig\Services\0005\Auto Change the value from 0 to 1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Widcomm\BtConfig\Services\0005\Enabled Change the value from 0 to 1
But in the PDA2K, the Services go up to 0004.... any ideas?

Perform a test?
heliod said:
I have seen that in the Ipaqs, to enable the Bluetooth Headset for the applications, all we had to do was to change 2 registry values:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Widcomm\BtConfig\Services\0005\Auto Change the value from 0 to 1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Widcomm\BtConfig\Services\0005\Enabled Change the value from 0 to 1
But in the PDA2K, the Services go up to 0004.... any ideas?
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What if you include a new service 0005?

zohaer21 said:
their product works only on ipaq.. i installed it on pda2k and it said this is not ipaq~!!!
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Can you upload their product files?

Re: Perform a test?
henrylim said:
heliod said:
I have seen that in the Ipaqs, to enable the Bluetooth Headset for the applications, all we had to do was to change 2 registry values:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Widcomm\BtConfig\Services\0005\Auto Change the value from 0 to 1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Widcomm\BtConfig\Services\0005\Enabled Change the value from 0 to 1
But in the PDA2K, the Services go up to 0004.... any ideas?
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What if you include a new service 0005?
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The question would be what would be the values of the other keys. All services in the device are groups of registry entries with some 10 different keys and values. I will take a look in an Ipaq to see what are the values they have there for Service 5 and for the other services, to be sure everything fits.
Another question that could bring problems: what would be the level of interference between the phone and the PDA Bluetooth service if each one manages the headset independently.

Bluetooth Headphones Problem

I have an O2 XDA Mini S and have just purchased a pair of Motorola HT820 Bluetooth headphones. I have paired the two; however, I only get the Hands Free service (which works) but NO Wireless Audio. I have not installed any other software / drives and I am using WMP 10 Mobile to play the music.
Any help with this problem would be very much appreciated.
Thanks, Harold Clements

...Ok, I have been on this for about 4 hours now and I am starting to get a bit annoyed.
I clicked on Motorola HT820 and then went ‘Refresh’ and up popped ‘Headset’ so I ticked that and saved. I then clicked (and held) on Motorola HT820. The options that I get are Edit – Delete – Set as Hands Free. I think I should also have ‘Set as Wireless Stereo’ or something, but I don’t.
Please, has anyone any ideas?
Thanks, Harold Clements

Wirless Audio Hacks
I really could do with someone’s help!
I have read about the ‘hacks’ (zoad2p.cab, Tornado asdp, AKU2.6) but I am unsure:
a) if this is a solution to for problem / PDA.
b) what a hack is and why is it needed?
Please can someone help!

I don't know wich kind of PDA you have, as you can see everyone here calls their PDAs by their HTC's code name (mine is a universal), go to look the pictures of all the PDAs, find yours and search directly inside there, it will be much easier for you to find an answer.
One simple comment, your PDA has to have the Bluetooth high quality audio (is called be some PDAs in this way), see if your PDA does contain such feature, you have to activate it if you want to hear stereo audio, generally when you pair your phones for the first time, your PDA will show you the option already ticked, if you haven't see it, chances are that something is missing in your bluetooth profiles, go to your PDA's specific part of this forum and read, with patience and some luck, I'm sure you'll find whatever you need to get your PDA's stereo audio to work.
Most of the cases, are just the lack of the profiles or even installing another BT stack.
good luck

Thanks...
Thank you very much for your advice / reply, it was very much appreciated. It seems that my PDA is a Wizard. I will indeed search that part of this forum.
Thanks again,
Harold Clements

I don't think your phone supports A2DP profile. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Neither do i know if his phone supports it, I use to have an Ipaq 6340, it suppose that it didn't supported A2DP but with an BT stack extracted from another PDA (don't remember wich one) it worked, it didn't worked very well, it dropped audio more or less each 30 seconds for 2 seconds, someone said at that time that was processor lack of power -I didn't agree with this-, but I did no further investigation.
As far as I've understood, the main bottleneck for stereo profiles (or any deamanding profile in BT) is the radio, of course, if We don't have access to the manufacturers good information, good tools, much time and even more will is very hard to find a solution to anything, most of us do not spend lots of time with this things -it's not easy for anyone with a "normal" life-, and I'm not complaining!
It's just fine for me, the whole thing it's quite enjoyable like this, some more time spent in this way and it would become a second work.
So, may us have fun and keep an excellent forum up.

haroldjclements said:
I have an O2 XDA Mini S and have just purchased a pair of Motorola HT820 Bluetooth headphones. I have paired the two; however, I only get the Hands Free service (which works) but NO Wireless Audio. I have not installed any other software / drives and I am using WMP 10 Mobile to play the music.
Any help with this problem would be very much appreciated.
Thanks, Harold Clements
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on the front page not 2 rows (at the moment) below this thread in really big bold letters
MOTO HT820 SKIPPING SOLVED! NEW FIRMWARE INSIDE!
which covers the issues and varioius fixes (if any) for most phones.

To be truthful, I know very little about what I am trying to do. All I know is that I can’t get the music side of the Motorola headset working.
As I said in my previous post: I have an O2 XDA Mini S (Wizard) and have just purchased a pair of Motorola HT820 Bluetooth headphones. The two paired but I only get the Hands Free service but NO Wireless Audio. I clicked on Motorola HT820 and then went ‘Refresh’ and up popped ‘Headset’ so I ticked that and saved. I then clicked (and held) on Motorola HT820. The options that I get are Edit – Delete – Set as Hands Free. I think It should also have ‘Set as Wireless Stereo’ but It don’t.
I have read about the ‘hacks’ (zoad2p.cab, Tornado asdp, AKU2.6) but I am a) unsure if this is a solution to my problem, and b) what a hack is and why is it needed?
I just really want to know how to fix my problem.
Thanks for your help,
Harold Clements

a hack is getting a device which dont support a feature to do it anyway
if htc dident make your device to support a2dp == bluetooth stereo
you maybe be able to get it to do it anyway using a hack
if any hacks works for your device
as it differs
bluetooth support is never support for all profiles bluetooth have
plus there are bluetooth version 1 - 1.1 - 1.2 and 2.0

haroldjclements said:
To be truthful, I know very little about what I am trying to do. All I know is that I can’t get the music side of the Motorola headset working.
As I said in my previous post: I have an O2 XDA Mini S (Wizard) and have just purchased a pair of Motorola HT820 Bluetooth headphones. The two paired but I only get the Hands Free service but NO Wireless Audio. I clicked on Motorola HT820 and then went ‘Refresh’ and up popped ‘Headset’ so I ticked that and saved. I then clicked (and held) on Motorola HT820. The options that I get are Edit – Delete – Set as Hands Free. I think It should also have ‘Set as Wireless Stereo’ but It don’t.
I have read about the ‘hacks’ (zoad2p.cab, Tornado asdp, AKU2.6) but I am a) unsure if this is a solution to my problem, and b) what a hack is and why is it needed?
I just really want to know how to fix my problem.
Thanks for your help,
Harold Clements
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The zoia a2dp hack (zoa2dp.cap) is what you need, it will give you "Set as wireless stereo" but be prepared for pretty bad skipping, that has not yet been solved for all of wizards.
Also if you flash to a custom rom (Like Molski's 2.26 it'll have the patch automatically.)

a2dp on Official WM6 (ANZ)

Does a2dp need to be enabled somehow on the official ANZ WM6 rom? or is it enabled by default? I'm thinking about going down to the shops to try out some bluetooth headphones this afternoon and want to make sure a2dp will work on my phone.
Thanks

A2dp is enabled by default. You will probably want to change the settings though. Its default as joint stereo ( MONO ) and low quality. Settings are changed in the registry or in a third party app ie trinity hack.
Good luck

Please let us know how you go BT A2DP experience?
Just make sure you try before buy or buy from a retailer who has a no questions asked return policy.
I have tried a few handsets and BT headphone combinations (never tried d810). So far I have found it is not worth the $$$..
I just use the W100 which works very well with the ANZ wm6 release.

try a blueant x5 - got mine from planet wireless- same price as ebay plus free postage it was- works great- and with the new coreplayer i can use it for all functions... sounds awesome too!!
So, do we have joint stereo = to 0 or 1? I have read it should be 1? but are you saying it should be 0?

on SEA works very good with my Sony Ericsson without touch any registry keys

MontAlbert said:
So, do we have joint stereo = to 0 or 1? I have read it should be 1? but are you saying it should be 0?
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Your ears should tell you, shouldn't they?
JointStereo must be set to 0.

anonimo said:
Your ears should tell you, shouldn't they?
JointStereo must be set to 0.
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Wrong! with the new wm releases jointstereo is fixed and you MUST have it set to 1 and remove the bitpool values in order to get high quality sound. Furthermore, you should set samplerate to 48000.
The OLDER roms should have jointstereo to 0. The way you can tell a difference is if with it set to 1 you hear 2 distinct channels.

where to set this samplerate, please?

On my P3600 if i change framerate for an higther 30, the sound cut every 5 seconds

If you are unfamilier with the registry you should use a tool to help make these changes, my HTCustom program can enable these a2dp changes for you. It's located here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307873
With it simply check usejointstereo and set bitpool to none on the comms tab.
In the registry itself you goto HKLM/software/microsoft/bluetooth/a2dp/settings (I think)
And remove the bitpool entries and set a new DWORD SampleRate to 48000. And make sure usejointstereo is set to 1. There are of course still some devices that are not going to work properly, but those are the correct settings for these newer roms.

I have already tried to change the value of the register, but as already said, has 48 that cut

A2DP on the SEA ROM is pure crap. Even with the registry settings it breaks up so often it's unplayable. I flashed back to AX3L 2.08 and A2DP is perfect again with the same settings!
Open letter to Microsoft:
Microsoft, you really need to do something about your A2DP (and Bluetooth in general) implementation. People constantly complain of cut outs while listening to music, amongst other issues. Take a look at SonyEricsson. Their K800/K790 phone doesn't have a 400Mhz+ processor in them, yet their phone can play A2DP perfectly, without skipping, and can even play the music through walls! So please do your customers a favor, contact SonyEricsson on how to properly create an A2DP driver! That is all.

Well, I went down to Organiser World yesterday to check them out (chose this store as their website stated that they had in store demos of several of the headsets). Anyway, the one I was particularly looking at was the Blueand x5 which they didn't have in stock. And just to make matters worse they didn't have any of them available for me to try out and wouldn't open a box for me to test it.
I asked the person would it work with my phone and they said they guarantee it would work. So of course my next question was if it doesn't work with my pda can I return it... no I'm afraid not was their response. At that point I walked out of the store thoroughly disappointed.

the blueant X5 works on my D810 - running Ax3l WM6 2.0.8.
Everything works great- answering calls, increasing volume, next song etc....dunno about with the offical rom though.......not trying the official rom until someone cooks it and makes it better.....

hi,
My config, with WM5 radio 1.41.00.11 :
in HKLM\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\Bluetooth_A2DP\Settings\ :
bitpool=58
maxsupportedbitpool=40
usejointstereo=0
now with WM6 radio 1.46.00.11
58
40
1
works like a charm, other config make AVCRP unavailable of very slow

Bluetooth Audio problems

Hello all, well recently I bought some Sony DR-BT20NX headphones under the impression they were the best, so onto the problems:
I'm using leos latest 0.5AKU WM6 Rom and when using them with the default Rom the bluetooth headset can control the music that is pause etc but the music plays for 1 second if that at the beginning of the song then its interference. Any ideas?
Using the Broadcomm stack included in the Rom that you can install after seems to sortany bluetooth problems involving audio but destroys the GSM and the radio crashes 9/10times on boot forcing a soft reboot.
Secondly I'm using on my PC/Notebook with a "Integrated System Solution Corp." Bluetooth dongle with BlueSoleil software provided, with this im able to control WMP like on my device, but I don't even get the second of audio - its completely dead audio wise apart from a dull hiss.
So after paying £60 I'm none the happier with bluetooth
Any help would be appreciated, thanks!

Ok quick update, bluesoleil version 3.2 fails miserably at audio.
Using 5.0.0.0 now and it works.
Whats annoying is I have to pay for this update because they gave me effectively crippled software.
Ok so thats the PC side sorted, just WM6 to go.
Edit:
My USB stick came with version 2.x of the drivers, and when upgrading to 5.x it says the BDID of the bluetooth is already registered. Duh It came with 2.x, oh damnit now I can't get 5.x. Why would a company not want my money

spicypixel
Have you tried only WMP or other players on your Uni? Try CorePlayer and PocketMusic, they also support AVRCP.
P.S. Using a HBH-DS970, no problems with sound... Only problems with WMP sometimes

Had the same issue....installed Jetware Mobile's Handsfree extension and it works flawlessly!!! I use it on my Jabra BT8010 and its the best buy i've ever made!!

dreamtheater39 said:
Had the same issue....installed Jetware Mobile's Handsfree extension and it works flawlessly!!! I use it on my Jabra BT8010 and its the best buy i've ever made!!
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Jetware causes skips for me

Skwyk said:
Jetware causes skips for me
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Do this and it will work just fine -
1. Install JET ware.
2. Start the utility, go to advanced options and check all relevant ones
3. On the main screen, click on "Turn on bluetooth". If it is already Checked, uncheck it and then re-check the option
4. Soft reset (Use PSShutXp or something which does a software reset. do not use the hardware reset button)
5. After restarting, make sure you freshly pair up your headset (Delete the previous partnership on your uni, and also do a factory reset on your headset)
6. Once paired, it should work just fine.
let me know if it works...also make sure you use the latest version (v1.31 i guess)
-San

Import this reg file...
Hi,
Import this .reg file, and it should work fine ;-)
San

dreamtheater39 said:
Hi,
Import this .reg file, and it should work fine ;-)
San
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will this fix work for a uni with wm5
R 1.09.00
G 42.42.p8
D 1.30.107.wwe
Also if someone could point me towards an explanation
of what these mean cause yes im a nab/nube

[APP] Auto A2DP ( Auto connects the a2dp on car radio )

I wrote this application because when I get into my car it only connects the bluetooth handsfree and doesn't connect the a2dp automaticly. There is an application that connects the a2dp by pressing a button, it's called a2dp toggle. You can find it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437726
My application runs the a2dp toggle command line options to connect the audio to a car radio when the mobile gets connected to the radio for handsfree.
Before you install my application make sure you have installed a2dp toggle. Just install the cab file. After the installation you can start the service with the "Auto A2DP Manager" found in programs, you can also stop the service here. It also starts the service at startup of the device after the installation.
The CPU usage is 0.1% on average and memory usage around 300k.
Let me know if you have some extra idea's.
I like to thank te people that made A2DP Toggle and Pavel Bánský for his windows mobile managed service, his blog can be found here.
[UPDATE 4/14/2009]
I just found out that I have put the location of a2dp toggle hardcoded, so this version only worked when you have installed a2dp toggle on a dutch windows mobile on the device.
This is fixed in the new version v1.0.1.
[UPDATE 4/14/2009]
There was another bug in the application, it seems that there was a little problem with the application link. This is fixed now. New version v1.0.2.
[UPDATE 4/27/2009]
The application has some problems in windows mobile 6.5. It seems that the service runs correctly, but the manager doesn't work.
So in windows mobile 6.5 install the application and soft reset the device. It should then work. Don't use the manager in windows mobile 6.5, it creates new instances of the services and cannot stop them. After a reset they are stopped.

sweet! thanks man - i'll give it a try later 2nite. Wonder if it will work with MSVC, hmmmm

Hello
Cool idea, but it will not work for me.
I want to use this App with my XPERIA and my Car Handsfree "Funkwerk EGO Look". I start the Car Handsfree and then I switch on BT on my XPERIA after a longe Time ago (because the XPERIA BT is very Bugy the Bluetooth connects but the A2DP connection does not appear. If I start it with the A2DP Toggle tool manualy then it works.
Does this app only work on Blackstone Phone?
Bye

bug
no it should work on windows mobile 6 but I looked in to it and found the problem I will fix it and upload the new version v1.0.2, I will do it now.
[UPDATE]
You can download v1.0.2. now

Hello wian007
Now it works, thank you very much.
This Workaround is what i'm looking for a long time, now I can simply switch on BT and play Music in my car and a other affirmative effect is that Bluetooth connects much quicker.
And over again, thanks for you great Work.
Bye

Hello wian
I am again
I am searching a solution to execute a command to pause my MP3 player if A2DP is lost for 2-5sec. I want to do this with a Mortscript, do you know how is it possible to read the state of A2DP (established or not)?
Is there a Registry entry?
Bye

checking the a2dp state
to check the state me the a2dp I used the window mobile state class that comes with the framework. so I think you could find it in the registry but I'm not sure.

I was just wondering about this...
Great work so far.
- Anthony

Quick Question:-
Are you looping to check the connected devices, or are you using RequestBluetoothNotifications from coredll.dll?
-Anthony

no I'm not looping. it is based on events that get fired when a status in the status class of windows mobile sdk changes. I used managed code to write this application.
But maybe I should rewrite it in unmanaged code and intergrate the functionality to connect the a2dp, instead of using the external application a2dp toggle.

quick question-must my car radio have Blutooth?

Is your app able to transmit music/navigations commands to my bluetooth car kit? In stock my ROM is not able to do so.
My old symbian devices where all able to to that. But with windows mobile all is different.

I'm with HD with v3.0 duttys rom and cannot get this thing to work.
Any solution??

ctoicho said:
quick question-must my car radio have Blutooth?
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Yes, to make this application work, you have to be able to mannualy connect your mobile with your car radio to have your sound on your car speakers.
Also your car radio must connect as an handsfree control device. This triggers the making of a connection.
If you cannot make a connection with your carradio by running the a2dp toggle executable my application will also not work because my application runs also the executable.

Cupra TDI said:
Is your app able to transmit music/navigations commands to my bluetooth car kit? In stock my ROM is not able to do so.
My old symbian devices where all able to to that. But with windows mobile all is different.
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My application doesn't provide that functionality. My application runs a2dp toggle when a handsfree connection is made.

onesolo said:
I'm with HD with v3.0 duttys rom and cannot get this thing to work.
Any solution??
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Can you post the last lines of the log file "a2dp.log" that has been created in the root of your device?
And does your mobile connect when you run ad2p toggle?

Hope this isn't off topic.
Has anyone seen text messaging work through a Windows CE device to a head unit?
I had a Sony Erricson W810 and the HFP/A2DP worked as did the messaging push to the car stereo. (I have a Kenwood DNX7120 with BT). Could read and respond through the Head Unit...I know a bit dangerous..but the technology worked well.
My symbian (N95) devices worked fine with HFP and A2DP, but not message push either.
My current device (Sony Experia) works great with the HFP and with A2DP profile but again not with messaging.
Just currious...cwh

wian007 said:
Can you post the last lines of the log file "a2dp.log" that has been created in the root of your device?
And does your mobile connect when you run ad2p toggle?
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You mean a2dplog.txt?
a2dp:False hf:True
location: \Program Files\Teksoft\A2DPToggle\A2DP.exe
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It has a more lines, but they are all the same as these two lines
If my mobile connect when I run ad2p toggle?? My device when I plug the key into my car, automatically connects to the car kit bluetooth. No need for any intervention.

Yes ok, your handsfree is connected but does your mobile connect with bluetooth stereo if you run a2dp toggle. It seems that this doesn't work.
So the only solution that I can think of is that you need to set your radio as stereo output in the bleutooth connections. Then test if a2dp toggle connects your phone to the radio. If so restart the device and it should work.

Handsfree
I use Plantronix handsfree when I'm away from the car and a Parrot handsfree in the car. I want the Parrot handsfree to take over automatic when use the car.
Do anyone have the solution ????