1.6 clock freeze quadrant? - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

For reference im running lostkernel latest release exp+ and starburst 1.7.
At stock clock i hit about 3700 quadrant score. At 1.4 I hit about 3900. But when i go to 1.6 it freezes the phone just about every time and i have to do a battery pull. I can get it to go through maybe one out of 30 times, and i score like 4600...
Is this just the physical limitation of the processor, or is here something i can do? Quadrant always does better on a second back to back run. I wanna see if i can hit 4800. Any input appreciated!
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jermzz said:
For reference im running lostkernel latest release exp+ and starburst 1.7.
At stock clock i hit about 3700 quadrant score. At 1.4 I hit about 3900. But when i go to 1.6 it freezes the phone just about every time and i have to do a battery pull. I can get it to go through maybe one out of 30 times, and i score like 4600...
Is this just the physical limitation of the processor, or is here something i can do? Quadrant always does better on a second back to back run. I wanna see if i can hit 4800. Any input appreciated!
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I overclocked my phone with that exact same rom..benchedmarked it and was amazed..I left it on the charger for 30 minutes..I picked it up and droped it..it felt my fingers were gonna melt!!..had to be like 180°f!!..I had to put in the freezer to cool down..

Yes putting an electronic device that was very hot into a freezer is a fantastic idea.

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Needs moar over-volt
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Yeah, I figure it needs more v-core. What do you use to add voltage?

mmmajor said:
I overclocked my phone with that exact same rom..benchedmarked it and was amazed..I left it on the charger for 30 minutes..I picked it up and droped it..it felt my fingers were gonna melt!!..had to be like 180°f!!..I had to put in the freezer to cool down..
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Hmm, well to get the scores I get, I set min to 1600, max to 1600 and performance mode, but I wouldn't leave it like that, I just do it for benching. That would destroy your battery. Any other time I leave it at max 1400, min 200 and on demand and my phone doesn't get too hot. I wouldn't put your phone in the freezer when it's hot. Rapid cooling of hot metal/electrical parts can cause serious hardware damage.
Kinda like how you should never spray cold water on an over heated engine block, same principle.

mmmajor said:
I overclocked my phone with that exact same rom..benchedmarked it and was amazed..I left it on the charger for 30 minutes..I picked it up and droped it..it felt my fingers were gonna melt!!..had to be like 180°f!!..I had to put in the freezer to cool down..
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Yeah rapid change of temperature is no good, not to mention you might have set off the liquid damage stickers with all the moisture in the fridge......

daneurysm said:
Needs moar over-volt
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+1... had to +25mv mine to keep it stable. and then after realizing it was making phone too hot i went back to 1.2Ghz max

what did you use to overvolt?

running stock deodex + lostkernel+ latest stable + tegra oc @ 1.65ghz @ 1450mV all day 51xx on quadran with no pro, also 16hrs heavy usage on batt, i think ill stay using these 4ver

I'm clocking 1.6 with set CPU with no problems. First touch I had locked up at 1. 4. Here's a quad pic of this one.
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Voltage control settings?

I'm on sfr 1.2 with genocide 1.1 final kernel, what are optimal settings for voltage control for speed, everytime I put it at 1.4 it instantly freezes and I have to pull battery, then when I put it at 1.3 it will be fine foor a little while but if I multitask like using music player the phone freezes and I must pull battery again, what should the speed mhz and voltage be?
100-1000mhz= -100uv....
1120mhz= -75uv....
1200mhz=-50uv....
1300-1400mhz=_25uv....
Going any lower with the high speeds gets me freezes and going any lower with the slower speeds gets me freezes and data corruption/loss...I've been stable for some good time with these settings
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tony45x220 said:
100-1000mhz= -100uv....
1120mhz= -75uv....
1200mhz=-50uv....
1300-1400mhz=_25uv....
Going any lower with the high speeds gets me freezes and going any lower with the slower speeds gets me freezes and data corruption/loss...I've been stable for some good time with these settings
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How much battery life u get with those settings?
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ralf_97 said:
How much battery life u get with those settings?
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I'm on an extended battery so I can't really compare with what you'd get...but I get an average of 2 solid days out of my 2800mAh Yoobao
Going to try now
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I tried those settings and my phone froze within 5 secs.
What do you have the initial front screen Mhz set at whats the min and the max set at?
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I tried those settings and my phone froze within 5 secs.
What do you have the initial front screen Mhz set at whats the min and the max set at?
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Every Epic is different. I can run 1400 all day but can't undervolt at all. Some people can't run over 1200. It just depends on your phone. If things are freezing or shutting down on 1300 or 1400, your phone most likely can't handle it
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The phone runs great and crazy fast at 1200 or 1300 but i was just wondering if i could get that little bit extra boost to 1400, but i guess if my phone cant handle those speeds im just going to have to be happy with fast. lol
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The phone runs great and crazy fast at 1200 or 1300 but i was just wondering if i could get that little bit extra boost to 1400, but i guess if my phone cant handle those speeds im just going to have to be happy with fast. lol
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Ill attach some shots of my new settings...I know for a fact I can't go below -100 with the lower speeds or else I instantly loose random data...if ure still optimistic u can try them...question though...does your phone still freeze up with overclocking to 1.4ghz and no undervolting?
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Ill attach some shots of my new settings...I know for a fact I can't go below -100 with the lower speeds or else I instantly loose random data...if ure still optimistic u can try them...question though...does your phone still freeze up with overclocking to 1.4ghz and no undervolting?
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Also, (well its probably not recommended) some people have paid for the Extreme key for Voltage Control and OVERvolted a bit to get 1400 stable but I wouldn't recommend it unless Xan says you are good. The option is there though. I have it but haven't had the need to try overvolting
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Off Topic: Voltage Control Extreme showed up on my Sprint bill and I giggled.
On topic: I've never noticed any performance differences when I overvolted. What benefits have people gained? I'm using Twilight 1.1.1 at 1.3 ghz and the phone glides without extra power.
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Off Topic: Voltage Control Extreme showed up on my Sprint bill and I giggled.
On topic: I've never noticed any performance differences when I overvolted. What benefits have people gained? I'm using Twilight 1.1.1 at 1.3 ghz and the phone glides without extra power.
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I think overvolting may help people whose phone crashes say at 1.3. If you have it stable without overvolting, I wouldn't even mess with it. 1.3 and 1.4 are already using more voltage than what's considered optimal for our phones
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JohnCorleone said:
I think overvolting may help people whose phone crashes say at 1.3. If you have it stable without overvolting, I wouldn't even mess with it. 1.3 and 1.4 are already using more voltage than what's considered optimal for our phones
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I find that hilarious that they decided to give up at 1.0. I know that's recommended value, but my phone never even shows any signs of instability at 1.3. In fact, it seems like it enjoys it better.
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I find that hilarious that they decided to give up at 1.0. I know that's recommended value, but my phone never even shows any signs of instability at 1.3. In fact, it seems like it enjoys it better.
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Oh, I agree. I run mine set at 1.4/200 with no undervolt and I swear the battery is just as good as 1.2/200
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JohnCorleone said:
Oh, I agree. I run mine set at 1.4/200 with no undervolt and I swear the battery is just as good as 1.2/200
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SRF 1.2 really makes it just sip at the battery. I can't believe how fast it causes it to charge. Can't wait to try Vision 1.3. I'm going to test out the 1.4 and 1.45 settings.
Im at 200-1000. 200 and 1000 -50, everything in between -75
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[q] weird epic scare!!!!

I have been rooting and booting for a few weeks now trying this that and the 3rd with no problems..till this morning. I woke up..phone would not turn on..i thought it went dead <calibrated my battery earlier and u know u get crappy batt life 4 a few days>....plugged it up...didnt charge...then i pulled batt...and plugged it up..then voila...it turned on....wth was that about...any suggestions???
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Rooted Epic
SRF 1.2
Genocide kernel 2.0
SetCpu
Blue and Black glass theme
That happened to me when I under volt too much
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As long as u could get it on again who cares
Btw this happened to me once back when I tried to make my phone ext4 when it first came out
I was scared to death
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That happened to me when I under volt too much
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Sounds right. The stock settings are 1000 high and 400 low. Most people can lower the minimum to 200 with no problem. Some can run at 100 with no problem. Same goes for overclocking. Not all phones can handle 1300 and 1400. Then if you undervolt on top of lowering the minimum to say 200 or 100, you may be getting the wakelock or "Sleep of Death" lol
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Thanks
Thanks yall...after research..i thought i undervolted too much...but i been at that setting since i bought set cpu...i think the difference was..i switched kernel to genocide yesterday..aka..the same day i met the sleep of death..im back to the vision kernel now...what are some of yalls settings for set cpu???
I can go 1300 high to 100 low with on demand and no lock. But runs a little to hot for my taste so I usually go to 1000 to 100 I prefer battery life over speed. I am also running Bonsai that has great battery life on top of it.

What temperature is considered "overheating"?

I have been overclocking my CPU lately, sitting good right now at 1.2 ghz. I have it undervolted as well to prevent overheating. My question is what temperature do you associate with too hot? 100 F? more?
I dont like letting my phone get over 95 F, but im just curious to know what is considered a safe temperature range.
I cant directly measure my CPU temp, as that feature is not offered on our phone which really sucks, i have to go by the battery.
I have not the slightest clue but I would think you would go by how it feels in your hand and whether or not you can "smell" the cpu burning. I usually dnt clock it above 1.2 unless I'm gaming which is bad but I have it setup by a laptop cooler so it never overheats. Id say anything more than 90 would be pushing it.....
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Biggoron said:
I have not the slightest clue but I would think you would go by how it feels in your hand and whether or not you can "smell" the cpu burning. I usually dnt clock it above 1.2 unless I'm gaming which is bad but I have it setup by a laptop cooler so it never overheats. Id say anything more than 90 would be pushing it.....
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Not true put it like this our phones automatically shut off @ 122*F I go to 115*F when i play GTA 3 @ 1.5Ghz, but i can clock to 104*F just streaming music on WiFi.
So id say personally probably around 110*F+
Yes 105*F is hot but don't run it that high forever though.
But thats the battery, CPU stays fine so id say if your running 100*F+ For more than an hour than it might overheat??? Not completely sure but like i said everyday i play GTA 3 and get up to those temps.
XxLostSoulxX said:
Not true put it like this our phones automatically shut off @ 122*F I go to 115*F when i play GTA 3 @ 1.5Ghz, but i can clock to 104*F just streaming music on WiFi.
So id say personally probably around 110*F+
Yes 105*F is hot but don't run it that high forever though.
But thats the battery, CPU stays fine so id say if your running 100*F+ For more than an hour than it might overheat??? Not completely sure but like i said everyday i play GTA 3 and get up to those temps.
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Do you undervolt your cpu or run it on stock cpu voltages? I'm currently running samurai assassination and my phone always crashes if I undervolt it, and usually crashes when I run it at max voltages, but only when I overclock.
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I would consider 114 f overheating, that's when I have setcpu underlock to 800 mhz
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RealTic said:
Do you undervolt your cpu or run it on stock cpu voltages? I'm currently running samurai assassination and my phone always crashes if I undervolt it, and usually crashes when I run it at max voltages, but only when I overclock.
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Used to but because i play GTA 3 now i dont if undervolt that defeats the sole purpose to overclock so i can play without lag, once you undervolt it decreases performance but however gains in battery life.
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ugothakd said:
I would consider 114 f overheating, that's when I have setcpu underlock to 800 mhz
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Why SetCpu?
RealTic said:
Do you undervolt your cpu or run it on stock cpu voltages? I'm currently running samurai assassination and my phone always crashes if I undervolt it, and usually crashes when I run it at max voltages, but only when I overclock.
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His epic is weird undervolting drops his preformance whereas mine increases preformance......
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I would agree, 105, 108 would be ok but not for extended periods. Taking the back off usually cools the phone almost 5 degrees for me, but Epics are weird
XxLostSoulxX said:
Used to but because i play GTA 3 now i dont if undervolt that defeats the sole purpose to overclock so i can play without lag, once you undervolt it decreases performance but however gains in battery life.
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I can set profiles. Can voltage control do that?..
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ugothakd said:
I can set profiles. Can voltage control do that?..
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Yes besides there's no use for profiles......?
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Biggoron said:
Yes besides there's no use for profiles......?
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Sure there is... maybe not for you... I have 5 different profiles set... 1 for screen off.. 1 for battery < 50%, 1 for battery <30%, 1 for temp >116, and 1 for in call...
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flastnoles11 said:
Sure there is... maybe not for you... I have 5 different profiles set... 1 for screen off.. 1 for battery < 50%, 1 for battery 116, and 1 for in call...
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Hahaha wow ocd on profiles are we? I meant the on and off there's no needi think that is what has been screwing with my cpu for a while
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ugothakd said:
I can set profiles. Can voltage control do that?..
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Yes and has ability to set I/0 Scheduler plus setcpu reads wrong. And is outdated.
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I'd say that everyday during the summer in Phoenix I'd be overheating as the daily temp rises to 115+ for weeks.
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flastnoles11 said:
Sure there is... maybe not for you... I have 5 different profiles set... 1 for screen off.. 1 for battery < 50%, 1 for battery <30%, 1 for temp >116, and 1 for in call...
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I do this too, for the battery anyway. If it overheats I uc. If I'm under %80 I uc to 800, %50 600, 30% 400
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Yes and has ability to set I/0 Scheduler plus setcpu reads wrong. And is outdated.
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Yes it is outdated... and yes it reads wrong... but it still works just fine...
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Race2Speed said:
I'd say that everyday during the summer in Phoenix I'd be overheating as the daily temp rises to 115+ for weeks.
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Lol that's a whole other story. Have you notcied how hot its been right now? In the middle of winter??
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Yes it is outdated... and yes it reads wrong... but it still works just fine...
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But not an option to Overvolt, and choose an i/0 scheduler. plus its a bit faster to use and works with other programs nicely

How hot does your S3 get?

When I'm on mobile data with GPS running, I noticed the bottom of half of my S3 getting pretty damn warm. Is this normal?
Just started using mine I'm feeling the same heat
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No heat here.. downloaded a 840mb file over 3g for A span of like 3 or 4 hours and didn't get any heat at all
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Mine also gets quite warm. I can't believe yours wasn't cooking after downloading that file
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Are you guys all running stock kernel and ROM or custom? I'm on stock.
Ha! Try hours with GPS, Bluetooth music and Tethering on... the heat seems to really hit while I'm charging and doing all that. Fact! I can't touch the ass end of the phone. It probably gets about 8 hours a week like that. Still working perfectly. Samsung tells me it's normal. It also has a lot of factors for me too. I use a 1 amp charger. After 96% it's not so bad. At night when brightness is down. Not as hot. I tried to get it to mess up but couldn't. GPS, Bluetooth, tethering, charging from 30% and 100% display, and I pushed out to a low coverage area. Didn't miss a beat or melt. Lol.
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Navigation makes phones really hot, but with normal usage it should stay within 30-36°C.
I like this phone's heat management more than my old phone. My Evo 3d would get hot from 10 min usage.
On this, my screen has been on for 2 hours straight and I'm running at a cool 35.1 °C.
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yousefak said:
Navigation makes phones really hot, but with normal usage it should stay within 30-36°C.
I like this phone's heat management more than my old phone. My Evo 3d would get hot from 10 min usage.
On this, my screen has been on for 2 hours straight and I'm running at a cool 35.1 °C.
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How do you check the temp?
clankfu said:
How do you check the temp?
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Download this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.darshancomputing.BatteryIndicator
In the notification it will tell you the battery temperature.
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yousefak said:
Download this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.darshancomputing.BatteryIndicator
In the notification it will tell you the battery temperature.
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gracias
clankfu said:
When I'm on mobile data with GPS running, I noticed the bottom of half of my S3 getting pretty damn warm. Is this normal?
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When I was running CM10 for a day or two I thought my phone would melt but it was also 90+ degrees outside so it was hard to tell. My phone gets a little warm, but nothing too worrying.
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Mine also gets quite warm. I can't believe yours wasn't cooking after downloading that file
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I downloaded teamsonic Rom while at work and no heat.. just murdered my battery. Went from almost 90% to dead by the time it downloaded
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I downloaded teamsonic Rom while at work and no heat.. just murdered my battery. Went from almost 90% to dead by the time it downloaded
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When you downloaded that, were you on stock ROM and kernel?
This is to be expected. It is pretty high clock rate too but seriously a huge improvement from the gs2
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When you downloaded that, were you on stock ROM and kernel?
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No I was on the previous version of team sonic Rom.
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I get stupid heat when i play with my phone for abot 30 min.....its crazy.....guess every thing comes with a cost specially if this phone is this thin.
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This is to be expected. It is pretty high clock rate too but seriously a huge improvement from the gs2
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It actually shouldn't be expected. The Snapdragon S3's also ran at 1.5ghz and was pleasantly cool and the Exynos on the Galaxy Note was at 1.4ghz. Both are less power efficient and should run hotter than the S4. I've used the Evo LTE for a while with the same S4 and it barely got warm on a hot day. The issue is with the second core being weird. For those that hasn't already, make sure you flash Freeza's fix, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1790061 . This fix made my phone cool and got rid of my quickly draining battery life.
Most of the time my phone will stay within "normal" (to me) range, but when I game heavily... it turns into an oven range! I've gotten so paranoid a few times, I took the battery out and let it cooled for 5-10min
Im having the same problem....it isnt the software thats causing this its the hardware
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I hope you guys will repsond to this... What do you consider to be "normal" temperature for your phone to reach? Is 35 degrees realy normal? Ive heard people with s3 talk of theirs only reaching temperatures of 29 degrees max.
Thanks.

Quadrant score

I only get 3300ish same as wife's. I see a lot of people around 5000ish. I close all apps and clear ram. I am on Rogers. Just curious what score others get on Canadian phones
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are you running stock rom/kernel? I just got a tad under 5000 without closing apps or overclocking so what your running will make a big difference.
BTW gotta say hi to a fellow Brantfordian
As stated above, you could overclock your phone.
ON stock tw I normally hover around 5000'ish. 3300 is wayyyy low. Something def going on not right
RegBuckley said:
I only get 3300ish same as wife's. I see a lot of people around 5000ish. I close all apps and clear ram. I am on Rogers. Just curious what score others get on Canadian phones
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Stock Rogers 4.0.4, CPU OnDemand 384-1512mhz, /settings/developer options/Force GPU Rendering (unchecked), did not clear ram either.
Quadrant Standard = 4990
Quadrant Pro = 4350
Not that the numbers mean much to me, but these are the numbers you can expect. Perhaps your CPU governor/scaling is set low or deifferent than mine....or also, do you have POWER SAVE enabled?
Yes stock. I rooted and tried various rooms same score. I'm not bothered by the score just checking if others get dame score. I do have power saving on so will try tonight without it. Thanks for all the input guys. I'm trying to get a good base for comparison to jb whenever Rogers gives it to us
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Power saving might be throttling the CPU so that its not running its fastest to save power. Definitely try without power saving and let us know.
I'm on CM10 with the ktoonsez kernel not overclocked and I average about 5000, give or take maybe 500. I really can't remember what I got on stock, its been so long
You guys nailed it. I went into power saving screen and turned off the cpu part and got 4955
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You guys nailed it. I went into power saving screen and turned off the cpu part and got 4955
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Great to hear that RegBuckly.
You should FEEL a noticeable difference with certain apps, games or launcher now that you have full speed CPU scaling.
(don't for get to press the thank you button)
I'm getting 3866 in Quadrant (Normal: 5325) and 9586 in AnTuTu (Normal: 16301). Something's wrong, those are almost half what they should be.
I'm running ParanoidKANGDroid and set the CPU to "Performance" in case it was doing some powersaving stuff... is there another powersaving setting I'm missing? I turned off GPS and Sync. I even put it in the damned freezer. I've run both benchmarks multiple times after reboots and all of that and it's pretty consistent with those scores.
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