Dev support: Hercules vs Amaze - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989

So I just bought an Amaze. My question is what will have the most dev support?
I'm still relatively new and my only experience is with my G2X. So the second question is, which will be the most friendly for a novice?
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From what I can see, the amaze got more developers than Hercules. Team Edt got the amaze so you guys will be just fine..
Ps the sgsii is the best phone I ever owned!
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theres an amaze forum that you will probably get more answers in

I had thought about posting there but had figured that they would be a little biased. The same would also hold true here as well I imagine. I've never owned a samsung device but it seems that with ODIN their devices are relatively unbrickable. I wasn't sure if the same could be said for HTC.
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well it seems like you are unsure about your purchase, ill make it simple for you take the amaze back and get the hercules..you wont be dissapointed

I agree with this
tigerz0202 said:
well it seems like you are unsure about your purchase, ill make it simple for you take the amaze back and get the hercules..you wont be dissapointed
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^^^ I third this once this phone have root support....omg I am getting goosebumps thinking about it
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HTC devices seem to get more attention but they are all inferior in various ways to samsungs. Sad but true
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HTC is what they know and what they go with, me.. I had HTC - DO NOT WANT

Well. Lets not sugar coat it. The first round of gs devices had some issues that were deal brekers for alot of people. **** gps and awful radios. This time around those things are not issues. Thats why alot of people went with htc and think this second round of gs devices will have the same issues. Theyre gonna miss out on an amazing device.
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HTC is what they know and what they go with, me.. I had HTC - DO NOT WANT
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mikeyinid said:
Well. Lets not sugar coat it. The first round of gs devices had some issues that were deal brekers for alot of people. **** gps and awful radios. This time around those things are not issues. Thats why alot of people went with htc and think this second round of gs devices will have the same issues. Theyre gonna miss out on an amazing device.
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i was hardcore htc and thought samsung was crap, well i was in tmobile one day visiting my wife and their store demo showed up , so thought well maybe ill just play with it to see what all the hype is....30 minutes to an hour later i left the store and put my sensation on e-bay, ill never be as close minded as that again this device rocks

atoore said:
From what I can see, the amaze got more developers than Hercules. Team Edt got the amaze so you guys will be just fine..
Ps the sgsii is the best phone I ever owned!
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I don't think the Amaze has more devs and if they do I bet it won't be for long. The GS2 is a very awesome piece of hardware. I love it!
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tigerz0202 said:
i was hardcore htc and thought samsung was crap, well i was in tmobile one day visiting my wife and their store demo showed up , so thought well maybe ill just play with it to see what all the hype is....30 minutes to an hour later i left the store and put my sensation on e-bay, ill never be as close minded as that again this device rocks
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tigerz0202 said:
i was hardcore htc and thought samsung was crap,
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same here, the first time i picked up the Samsung i9000 i was very hesitant coming from a long time owner of HTC phones
but since then... i've never looked back.... because there was nothing better on the HTC side of the fence

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well it seems like you are unsure about your purchase, ill make it simple for you take the amaze back and get the hercules..you wont be dissapointed
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I don't know, I'm not so sure that the Amaze is overall inferior to the Hercules.
I got the Hercules after a year and half of owning an HTC Desire, and I loved this device. The Amaze seems like a pretty solid incarnation of the Desire. Sense is probably the best out of the various Android overlays, the camera oriented features seem smart and handy and the higher resolution display is pretty nice to look at.
I personally chose to go with the Hercules because performance is pretty important to me and the Amaze struggles a bit with its extra resolution (maybe also Sense). I also really dug the design of the Hercules and personally, I don't use my phone as a camera that much.

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I don't know, I'm not so sure that the Amaze is overall inferior to the Hercules.
I got the Hercules after a year and half of owning an HTC Desire, and I loved this device. The Amaze seems like a pretty solid incarnation of the Desire. Sense is probably the best out of the various Android overlays, the camera oriented features seem smart and handy and the higher resolution display is pretty nice to look at.
I personally chose to go with the Hercules because performance is pretty important to me and the Amaze struggles a bit with its extra resolution (maybe also Sense). I also really dug the design of the Hercules and personally, I don't use my phone as a camera that much.
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It pretty much is idk most reviews said the battery life was horrible. Getting roughly 4-5hrs tops in battery life. That being said this means even with root and custom roms it won't get much better than it already is. I was a die hard htc fan but not anymore I didn't like the vibrant. I thought it was on the verge of breaking every time i took it out my pocket. The amaze is what the sensation should of been.

amaze and galaxy
ive had this phone for a few days, i like everything about it but im really considering the amaze, mostly because i hate touchwiz, and i have a feeling more of the devs will go towards the amaze, anyone that used both know if i should stick with the galaxy ?

You do know you can install another launcher, right? I don't like touchwiz either, which is why I installed ADW. It's free & has themes, try it.
I had a Sensation which is almost the same as the Amaze, and I actually sold it after only 2 months cause I hated it so much, and so I could get this phone. I don't regret it AT ALL. The GSII is a much better phone. I've had a lot of HTC phones & they've all had the same problems, except for my HD2. They're also harder to root b/c of their stupid locked bootloaders, whereas we had root within what- a week? It took forever to get perm-root for the Sensation. I HIGHLY doubt that development will be better for the Amaze either, especially since Cyanogen now works for Samsung. The Sensation & the Amaze both suffer from the same hardware issues too- heat, bad battery life, wifi/bluetooth death grip, SENSE(lol), etc. IMO- you'd regret switching.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1324016
heres what this guy thinks

Tanvirul said:
ive had this phone for a few days, i like everything about it but im really considering the amaze, mostly because i hate touchwiz, and i have a feeling more of the devs will go towards the amaze, anyone that used both know if i should stick with the galaxy ?
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There is basically one guy dev'ing for the Amaze, and a 14 year old kid pissing everyone off, almost getting that one dev to leave XDA. I'd stay far far far away from the Amaze is development is what you want.

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should i get the GN / G2X?

i could get a like new G2X for 350 with an extended 1980 battery for $350
or a brand new galaxy nexus for 650 + tax
what would you guys get?
i really want the galaxy nexus but theres some things i don't like about it like no gorilla glass and the speakers not that loud, but theres major pluses but ill be basically paying twice as much than the g2x
what should i do so confused
I wouldn't touch an LG phone. Ick.
Speakers: Volume+ and set it to +8.... Volume fixed.
Gorilla Glass: meh. it has some kind of protection on the glass, unsure whats the name but keys dont scratch it apparently.
Long term speaking. Galaxy Nexus will be a good development device.
I work at tmo and I would get the G2X over samsung anything. To be completely honest tho HTC all the way even a sensation would rock. Still my favorite phone even after I bought the amaze
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neoissuperman said:
I work at tmo and I would get the G2X over samsung anything. To be completely honest tho HTC all the way even a sensation would rock. Still my favorite phone even after I bought the amaze
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And that's why you're using a Sidekick 4G right?
Stock Android experience + updates directly from Google is the best way to go to. Not to mention the amazing display that Samsung always offers. People always complain about Samsung phones are all plasticy.
Its plastic but it's built very durable and can survive falls a lot better than these other phones. It's also lighter, vivid and vibrant display that will make you be impressed in a heartbeat.
I really hope this was a trick question. If i were you i will not EVEN look/touch/think about the G2x. All i will tell you is do your research on that phone. In fact i will say get the Sensation/GII. Even if someone gives me a G2x right now i will not even touch it. So if getting the remaining dollar to get the GN is an issue then get then seriously look at the Sensation OR GII.
PS: in the long run you will want the GN.
Yeah fool. I have SEVERAL phones!
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Wow, samsung lovers present and acounted 4.... Lol i was just trying to take the pain and restocking fee's out of your life but hey, i only rock every phone that comes out. What do i know that the FANBOY'S don't. Bet the same samsung lovers would jump at an IPHONE if it would run hsdpa.... Ok i am done, on with your missleadings.
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And that's why you're using a Sidekick 4G right?
Stock Android experience + updates directly from Google is the best way to go to. Not to mention the amazing display that Samsung always offers. People always complain about Samsung phones are all plasticy.
Its plastic but it's built very durable and can survive falls a lot better than these other phones. It's also lighter, vivid and vibrant display that will make you be impressed in a heartbeat.
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Oh, my. Amazing display? Yeah for blind people. Low resolution, forner cutting short the consumer, SUPER AMOLED.... samsung will always short the customer. " People always complain about Samsung phones are all plasticy " no it's because it IS plasticy GARBAGE! THE AMAZING DISPLAY is a overly backlit low res cheap way out to be the LARGEST smartphone screen. Lol done
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neoissuperman said:
Wow, samsung lovers present and acounted 4.... Lol i was just trying to take the pain and restocking fee's out of your life but hey, i only rock every phone that comes out. What do i know that the FANBOY'S don't. Bet the same samsung lovers would jump at an IPHONE if it would run hsdpa.... Ok i am done, on with your missleadings.
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No ones a fanboy. We just simply love the "Pure Google Experience." I'll be honest about being a fanboy about Samsung's displays, they're gorgeous
It all depends on the person. If you're the person that wants the latest and newest version of Android. Galaxy Nexus will do you well, you can counter-argue this by talking about custom ROMs and all that. But you know what? it's up to the manufacturer of the phone to provide a 3.X.X version of the kernel. Without that, you are limiting development for that particular phone.
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No ones a fanboy. We just simply love the "Pure Google Experience." I'll be honest about being a fanboy about Samsung's displays, they're gorgeous
It all depends on the person. If you're the person that wants the latest and newest version of Android. Galaxy Nexus will do you well, you can counter-argue this by talking about custom ROMs and all that. But you know what? it's up to the manufacturer of the phone to provide a 3.X.X version of the kernel. Without that, you are limiting development for that particular phone.
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All i can say is WOW you don't know what you are talking about. G2X is way closer to a GOOGLE ANDROID experience. I can't even beleive i am sticking up for LG anything except that the new mytouch is awesome even tho all thoughts were a bit scary, turned out to be a very nice device. After 2 updates on G2X i have not been able to freeze it up since. I give up. By what he says then if your in phoenix i'll gladly override your restock so you can get something other than touchwiz.
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I have a g2x and just got the nexus. Get the nexus! I payed $690 and no regrets here.
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I'd say if your keeping it for awhile GN. I wanted my Atrix for the hardware, knowing software is going to be replaced ... multiple times ... a week. I wanted to play with webtop, fingerprint scanner, etc. Now I have BU of ROM w/Linux & Chrome for the lapdock days, CM7 reading my fingerprints, and miui which I'm running now. The only thing that catches my eye is the GN ONLY because of the Nexus part. It's a personal choice. I wouldn't really wanna touch Samsung with LG's d!ck. Hardware means HTC or Motorola for me. I keep my phones and though they're both great beasts, there's only one button - less beast
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I'd say if your keeping it for awhile GN. I wanted my Atrix for the hardware, knowing software is going to be replaced ... multiple times ... a week. I wanted to play with webtop, fingerprint scanner, etc. Now I have BU of ROM w/Linux & Chrome for the lapdock days, CM7 reading my fingerprints, and miui which I'm running now. The only thing that catches my eye is the GN ONLY because of the Nexus part. It's a personal choice. I wouldn't really wanna touch Samsung with LG's d!ck. Hardware means HTC or Motorola for me. I keep my phones and though they're both great beasts, there's only one button - less beast
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I agree with you on the nexus part. HTC owns, but the nexus line only exist's because samsung holds out. I really do not prefer either option but based on what i have tested the answer is G2X even tho it was a nightmare before gingerbread, the phone is solid now. Add CM to it and wow!
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Getting my SG2 Tomorrow...

Getting my White SG2 tomorrow - stoked! I know this will probably get balked at as a dumb ass thread, but gimme me a break, it's the general section. I'm new to the SG2 forums, been looking around the last couple days, but want to know if some users could offer some starting off tips. I understand there are no stable cm roms at the moment, so is what's available mostly just tweaks of the stock tw 4.0? What are the current benefits of rooting, removal of bloatware and tw theming?
For the record, I've rooted and run circles around my last two phones, but they were both HTC so this is my first dance with a Samsung Android, and I hear it's a little different.
Anyway, thanks and I'm excited to jump into this baby!
welcome to the sgs2 ,i love my phone but development sucks over here ,seems like there are a bunch of immature teenagers in this forum cursing each other out and seems like a dev gets banned every week .very dissapointing if your coming from an HTC phone where the dev support is mostly pretty good and civil.But any how the sgs2 is a great phone ...enjoy and welcome
i use beastmod rom.... Phone is sweet but i just got a nexus today and damn... that phone even though it's pentile it looks sweet at 720p.
Only tip from me is beware of static images.. super amoled burns in faster than plasma.... I always keep screen moving... my old galaxy s had notification bar burn in and even icons and i was good with it. Use a rom of theme with blue clock or easy color... image retention with white clock is almost instant.
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best stable rom around here would probably be juggernaut rom paired with faux's kernel(very very smooth) use that with touchwiz 4.5 and you'll customize the theme however you want.
tigerz0202 said:
welcome to the sgs2 ,i love my phone but development sucks over here ,seems like there are a bunch of immature teenagers in this forum cursing each other out and seems like a dev gets banned every week .very dissapointing if your coming from an HTC phone where the dev support is mostly pretty good and civil.But any how the sgs2 is a great phone ...enjoy and welcome
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Agree! I came here from HTC G2 (Vision). The support over there is Amazing! So many roms that I couldn't decide. The devs are very nice and professional unlike here. Call me troll/hater but I'm telling the truth. I am a bit disappointed by the support for this phone. I wish the CM team has more love for this device.
Anyway, welcome to the GS2 family!
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Agree! I came here from HTC G2 (Vision). The support over there is Amazing! So many roms that I couldn't decide. The devs are very nice and professional unlike here. Call me troll/hater but I'm telling the truth. I am a bit disappointed by the support for this phone. I wish the CM team has more love for this device.
Anyway, welcome to the GS2 family!
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It's my understanding from the reading I've done so far that cm9 is in the works...supposedly maybe an ics rom??
To all the others, thanks for the suggestions. Even though the SG2 has been around awhile, the TMO version is still pretty new, and I think most people who have upgraded to a 'new' TMO phone will either be on this or the Amaze, so hopefully the pumped up devving is coming. And with ICS on the horizon, who know's what's to come...? At the TMO store the other day and a rep (who uses the SG2 as his phone) told me he's pretty sure the SG2 will be getting ICS within 1-2 months. For those interested, he also told me he was sure that when the next iphone hits (iphone 5?) TMO will carry it...but who knows on that front lol.
Thats probably good news for Tmobile if they get the iPhone but that does nothing for me as I don't like them, my hopes are T-Mobile switches to LTE and carries the GS3 but that's a long shot on the LTE thing for this year but more than likely they will have it in the future
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Agree! I came here from HTC G2 (Vision). The support over there is Amazing! So many roms that I couldn't decide. The devs are very nice and professional unlike here. Call me troll/hater but I'm telling the truth. I am a bit disappointed by the support for this phone. I wish the CM team has more love for this device.
Anyway, welcome to the GS2 family!
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whatre you talking about? we have generally good devs with a few small exceptions.. and cm9 is coming
pretty good phone and good roms available.
Rocking beast mod 4.0 ...bullet kernel...n green hulk smash theme....not going to lie obsessed wit my fone....cm is coming though thanxs to team darkside so have no fears...there really nice...I'm not a pro, but if u have any questions feel free to ask me n ill try n help u out... just make sure to hit thanx button every now n then if I help btw welcome to the family lol
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Welcome - I hope you enjoy your phone and if the screen doesn't bother you, keep it!
I went through about 5 SGS2s and each had the screen problem - which I couldn't bare.
Hopefully samsung fixes the issue within a month or two so I can get the phone again but until then, I will be without it
Enjoy it! I know I did while I had it.
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Welcome - I hope you enjoy your phone and if the screen doesn't bother you, keep it!
I went through about 5 SGS2s and each had the screen problem - which I couldn't bare.
Hopefully samsung fixes the issue within a month or two so I can get the phone again but until then, I will be without it
Enjoy it! I know I did while I had it.
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You're talking about the 'streaks' that show up on the screen? I've read about this elsewhere on XDA, anxious to see for myself when the phone gets here sometime today. Having streaks going across my phone's display on a regular basis is the kind of thing I'm not willing to deal with for a $500 price tag. We'll see...thanks for the heads up.
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You're talking about the 'streaks' that show up on the screen? I've read about this elsewhere on XDA, anxious to see for myself when the phone gets here sometime today. Having streaks going across my phone's display on a regular basis is the kind of thing I'm not willing to deal with for a $500 price tag. We'll see...thanks for the heads up.
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Honestly ppl find something to complain about ...its Rly not that serious u.only notic this if u have brightness all the way down to zero which u will nvr do BC this screen is amazin when.its bright I have mine at 20-30% n I'm good money no lines or anything...ull be fine. Trust me
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Honestly ppl find something to complain about ...its Rly not that serious u.only notic this if u have brightness all the way down to zero which u will nvr do BC this screen is amazin when.its bright I have mine at 20-30% n I'm good money no lines or anything...ull be fine. Trust me
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Plus forty. I do understand we spent allot of money and there really shouldn't be any defects but no phone is perfect and compared to other hardware imperfections that other phones have I'll take this any day.
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tigerz0202 said:
Thats probably good news for Tmobile if they get the iPhone but that does nothing for me as I don't like them, my hopes are T-Mobile switches to LTE and carries the GS3 but that's a long shot on the LTE thing for this year but more than likely they will have it in the future
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Im fairly certain Tmobile is going to start switching over to LTE Read This, there is some really interesting info in it about tmobile and LTE.
I would suggest you spend 1 or 2 weeks to use it first, once you get a hang of it you can upgrade android version or root the phone using Odin.
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Agree! I came here from HTC G2 (Vision). The support over there is Amazing! So many roms that I couldn't decide. The devs are very nice and professional unlike here. Call me troll/hater but I'm telling the truth. I am a bit disappointed by the support for this phone. I wish the CM team has more love for this device.
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Me too i miss mexdroid team lot drama on here

Should I trade my DINC + $20 for a Fascinate?

I've been given the opportunity to trade my incredible + $20 for a fascinate. Should I do it?
I am kinda really attached to my phone and I can get an upgrade as early as April anyway. I know the fascinate has a pretty darn good build of ICS working on it which is the only reason I'm considering it.
Like I said, I love this phone and am apprehensive to trade it for something else. ICS would be nice, but I'm not sure how many quirks the build has.
Any thoughts? The deal would take place on Friday so I dont have much time to sit and think.
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I've been given the opportunity to trade my incredible + $20 for a fascinate. Should I do it?
I am kinda really attached to my phone and I can get an upgrade as early as April anyway. I know the fascinate has a pretty darn good build of ICS working on it which is the only reason I'm considering it.
Like I said, I love this phone and am apprehensive to trade it for something else. ICS would be nice, but I'm not sure how many quirks the build has.
Any thoughts? The deal would take place on Friday so I dont have much time to sit and think.
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Bigger screen... HELL YEAH
Less ram hell no.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
After Samsung's antennagate debacle with the first line of Galaxy S phones, you shouldn't waste your time with the Fascinate. I know it's been "fixed" but that was piss poor handling by Samsung.
No..........
I wouldn't take a fascinate for free. I know to many people with Samsung phones that just have problem after problem. No network connection. My mothers Infuse just turns off randomly. A woman I work next to hers drops 4G to no connection I've pulled her simcard/battery at least 3 times recently. My brother has a NS4g he was telling my yesterday he had no network connection or was dropped to 1x. Battery pull once again. A kid a used to work with had a galaxy S 1 random reboots and just stop charging. Another girl I work with also has a galaxy S 1 ive never seen a phone go into safe mode before. Battery pull. The main reason I passed on the GNexus is because it was made by Samsung.
Long story short NO
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I now remember reading about the fascinate having less ram, but forget the exact reason why.
Thanks everyone for your feedback. I will be keeping my Incredible and will continue working on my Sense 1.0 theme that I cannot wait to share
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Nope
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In case you still on the fence, no. Don't do it. The ICS ROMs for Inc are making good progress.
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Another no from me.
Of course you are asking a bunch of dINC owners
still I think the dINC is more future proof (even considering how old it is) than the Fascinate.
Yeah I've decided I'm not going to do it. The GPU is worlds better on the fascinate, but with an upgrade right around the corner and me being completely satisfied with this phone (heck I may wait even longer) I'm just gonna stick around. If the fascinate had 4G then it might have been a done deal.
Again thanks all for the feedback!
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You're welcome!
I went from the Dinc to the Fascinate. Keep the Dinc. The only thing that the Fascinate has on the Dinc is the bigger screen and a better DAC.
I personally bought the DINC because it was the smallest smartphone available. Sadly, it still is one of a kind in that department. I would try out the ICS build. I am using it now. It's quite stable and will make you feel like you have a new phone even though you have a two year old one.
ICS:
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I personally bought the DINC because it was the smallest smartphone available. Sadly, it still is one of a kind in that department. I would try out the ICS build. I am using it now. It's quite stable and will make you feel like you have a new phone even though you have a two year old one.
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I have tried out the ICS build and I'm not very satisfied with it. I am hugely picky about the smoothness and responsiveness of my phone rom and ICS on the inc isn't quite there yet due to the graphics drivers not supporting the GPU acceleration properly. I'll give it another shot if that ever gets fixed. That was the main draw of the fascinate to me, same gpu as the gnexus, same smoothness of the gnexus.
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Just my opinion, I would never trade a phone you are happy with for anyone's phone unless it was a large upgrade and you were sure you could return it. Many phones have minor annoyances which would make you regret it even if the phone was a minor upgrade. I run miui v4 and despite the things not yet worked out, it is still excellent.
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Div033 said:
I've been given the opportunity to trade my incredible + $20 for a fascinate. Should I do it?
I am kinda really attached to my phone and I can get an upgrade as early as April anyway. I know the fascinate has a pretty darn good build of ICS working on it which is the only reason I'm considering it.
Like I said, I love this phone and am apprehensive to trade it for something else. ICS would be nice, but I'm not sure how many quirks the build has.
Any thoughts? The deal would take place on Friday so I dont have much time to sit and think.
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Without a doubt go for it...Just saw your first post maybe you decided already...I've had my fascinate for a year now and the last three months of ics builds have been great. I've used both the teamhacksung and the gummy builds (which I'm running now).
Both builds have been for the most part stable from what I've experienced.
My buddy has two DINC's at the moment with one running MIUI, I wouldn't trade my shattered LCD stylin' fascinate for it...I soft bricked my fassy for two weeks before I got the time to read up enough and restore it, then I dropped it flush, face down on concrete that same exact day...
so yeah take the i500 or sure...save your upgrade if you want
I have a special place in my heart for the Fascinate, but the GPS problem was painful to deal with, no matter how many gpsfix.zip's people put out.
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HTC Evo 4G LTE Preorder May 7

Well there it is!
http://newsroom.sprint.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=2230
www.sprint.com/evo4glte
Nice if it doesn't have a locked boot loader....
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Good ****
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...cool. I guess. I loved my Evo4G with a passion--it was an amazing phone with a spectacular development community...but...After the ET4G I'll be damned if I get saddled with Sense and a half-assed camera ever again. My Moment's camera, while only 3.2mp, took far superior pictures.
...at least eventually Sense will be option thanks to AOSP roms, but, I love this amazing camera far too much. Samsung makes cameras, HTC does not.
Supposedly the sensor was the same as in the iphone4 and they still managed to make it take half assed pictures....some were great, but, that took engineering...blurry shots, odd colors, worthless in low light. pffft. HTC has got a lot to prove before they win me back. (though I am open to the idea)
EDIT: and how could I forget the screen? Any other phone's screen is washed out and dry looking. Only the iphone screen comes close, and it still isn't as completely awesome.
Im gonna wait a few weeks for some feedback, I learned my lesson pre ordering and showing up at 7am for the evo3d. HTC wasn't nice to us with that phone. Im sure the new EVO will get some great development.
Doesn't sound impressive
... Except for LTE part
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Im gonna wait a few weeks for some feedback, I learned my lesson pre ordering and showing up at 7am for the evo3d. HTC wasn't nice to us with that phone. Im sure it'll get some great development.
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Thank God they got rid of 3d and if it's got a locked boot loader I won't get it ... I don't want the htc unlock junk...makes it hard to flash roms
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I think audio will be better on it...i listen to music and videos a lot and hence will be getting it...
I was probably going to get it if the battery was 2600 mAh, but it's only 2000 mAh. It's not much of an upgrade from our devices. The only reason I see to get it is for the LTE.
Any word on the bootloadet? I'm sure it will be locked with an unlock key from HTC which is BS.
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Not a bad phone. But even if I could afford to upgrade to it I probably wouldn't. HTC hasn't wronged me in the past but samsung just feels better
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I'm interested in the HD voice, something I wasn't even aware we were deploying until this product announcement.
If we move to make all phones compatible with the set of HD voice protocols, that would be quite a feature to separate Sprint.
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I cant stand Sense, but the phone looks SWEEEET.
Looks astonishing but that's probably all it is. I had the evo, evo3D, and the jumped ship to the ET. Nothing I've used has wowed me like the epic did. I guess I will have to wait and give it a try to see if it will be anywhere near SGS3 ballpark one its announced.
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So the HTC One will be known at the Evo4GLTE. I am sorry but I think it is time for Sprint to let the name Evo go away. Should be a nice phone though regardless of the name. Hopefully it will ship with the bootloader unlocked.
Well at least we are gonna have some good options for Lte. It's still gonna take a lot for HTC to get their namesake back. Wtf were they thinking with the 3d POS? If you notice, they are trying to get a similar phone on all carriers like Samsung did. We all see how that paid off Sharp looking phone!
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Any word on the bootloadet? I'm sure it will be locked with an unlock key from HTC which is BS.
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Aren't all HTC phones going forward locked and them making you unlock through them?
After moving to Verizon and having the Galaxy Nexus, if I were on Sprint it would be a tough choice for me.
The GN is my first Nexus device and I must say I am really enjoying the pure Google experience. While the EVO LTE might have some better specs internally, there is just something about Vanilla ICS which is a much better experience over Sense.
Curious how this will play out for you guys and what device people will be moving to. If I was going to go to a non Nexus device I think I would wait to hear what the GSIII is going to include. I am thinking that would be the non-Nexus device to go with over this HTC phone.
Sammy proved to me they are the leaders after there SGS2 and they know they set the bar high for themselves and I think they are going to deliver...Geeze, If the current SGS2 had a 720p screen and an LTE radio in it I don't think many would even look at the EVO LTE.
On top of it, if you are going to go with a Non removable battery, you need to throw something large in there like Moto did with the Razr Maxx to make it worth it...2000mah isn't even the size of an extended battery.
I don't know... I think Ima go the Gnex route until the GS3 drops.
I used to think my mother evo was slim.. Till the e4gt.. Now I can't stand the thickness of holding any other phone.. Lol
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Aren't all HTC phones going forward locked and them making you unlock through them?
After moving to Verizon and having the Galaxy Nexus, if I were on Sprint it would be a tough choice for me.
The GN is my first Nexus device and I must say I am really enjoying the pure Google experience. While the EVO LTE might have some better specs internally, there is just something about Vanilla ICS which is a much better experience over Sense.
Curious how this will play out for you guys and what device people will be moving to. If I was going to go to a non Nexus device I think I would wait to hear what the GSIII is going to include. I am thinking that would be the non-Nexus device to go with over this HTC phone.
Sammy proved to me they are the leaders after there SGS2 and they know they set the bar high for themselves and I think they are going to deliver...Geeze, If the current SGS2 had a 720p screen and an LTE radio in it I don't think many would even look at the EVO LTE.
On top of it, if you are going to go with a Non removable battery, you need to throw something large in there like Moto did with the Razr Maxx to make it worth it...2000mah isn't even the size of an extended battery.
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I totally agree with you on throwing a large battery in like Moto. That 2000 mAh battery is a complete buzz kill for me. I will be getting the GN when it comes out. I've been wanting the real Android experience. To me usability is way more important then having the top of the line specs. WP and iOS have really opened my eyes to this recently.

T989 vs Nexus 4g lte

I think its hiliarious but I have this friend who swears that his nexus is far better than my gs2. Yeah I have a slightly lower resolution but thats it. I have a proc that will oc to 1.86ghz, gpu that will oc up to what 320mhz. Oh wait I have an sd card slot whoot. He thinks that benchmarks dont tell the truth about a phone, well thats what they are made for to test, ram, cpu, graphics its all there. I guess you just cant convince everyone. It's funny because he says my phone is old and im not even using JB so that'll make it that much more quick when I upgrade. But what ev's
Just something to talk about, thought it was funny
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I think its hiliarious but I have this friend who swears that his nexus is far better than my gs2. Yeah I have a slightly lower resolution but thats it. I have a proc that will oc to 1.86ghz, gpu that will oc up to what 320mhz. Oh wait I have an sd card slot whoot. He thinks that benchmarks dont tell the truth about a phone, well thats what they are made for to test, ram, cpu, graphics its all there. I guess you just cant convince everyone. It's funny because he says my phone is old and im not even using JB so that'll make it that much more quick when I upgrade. But what ev's
Just something to talk about, thought it was funny
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I think this phone matches nexus easily in every aspect almost. Nexus is not better. This phone has great developers and there's nothing it can't do that the nexus can.
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I think this phone matches nexus easily in every aspect almost. Nexus is not better. This phone has great developers and there's nothing it can't do that the nexus can.
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Indeed.
Besides, the Nexus 4 thread is actually spammed with people having problems with the phone, phone "breaks" randomly in their pocket, pics of broken Nexus 4s, etc
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I gotta laugh at everyone that said the n4 blowwwwws the t989 out of the water in every way. Lol
First....go to the n4 forum and read the problems people are having.
Second ...a friend of mine got one...I played with it a bit. Severely unimpressed. Sure its speedy....but barely quicker than my t989. The display looks like crap compared to mine. And it simply seems fragile! Very!
I will hold on to my Hercules til it breaks or my contract ends and I feel like replacing it. Maybe. My phone does everything I want it too very well. So until phones will do my dishes and tune up my car....I'll maybe stick with what I got. Lol
As far as the n4 goes.....I doubt I'd even trade my phone for it. Actually ....no....I wouldn't.
Technical inferiority. It's sad that people have a right to have their own opinions. This thread is hilarious. Please, lets get some more xda noobs in here to cry some more.
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Technical inferiority. It's sad that people have a right to have their own opinions. This thread is hilarious. Please, lets get some more xda noobs in here to cry some more.
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TOO FUNNY!!! LMAO......LET'S GET SOME MORE NOOBS IN HERE TO CRY SOME MORE.....PRICELESS!!!
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Had a T989 but switched to Nexus 4 and believe me this phone is better in every way... screen, battery life, look and feel, great build quality, super fast and smooth, the two gigs of ram makes multitasking a joy, and I don't have to wait for xda developers to bring me the latest updates... all I can say is get you one
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Galaxy S2 is a typical Samsung POS, the Nexus 4 is more akin in design to an iPhone. In other words, its insanely awesome
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Had a T989 but switched to Nexus 4 and believe me this phone is better in every way... screen, battery life, look and feel, great build quality, super fast and smooth, the two gigs of ram makes multitasking a joy, and I don't have to wait for xda developers to bring me the latest updates... all I can say is get you one
Think I will ask Santa to bring me one.......NOT!!! Maybe a Lexus but not a Nexus!!!!
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Technical inferiority. It's sad that people have a right to have their own opinions. This thread is hilarious. Please, lets get some more xda noobs in here to cry some more.
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Lol. Where's your n4 then?
What a Dink! Lol
If XDA frowns upon opinions....let them say so....otherwise shhhhh. Wow!
P.s. the only crying I've seen in this thread is from you....crying about noobs and their inferior opinions. Lol
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lonz358 said:
Think I will ask Santa to bring me one.......NOT!!!
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:thumbup:
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Seriously though to each his own I like sg2 thats just my preference.. Some like htc and motorola phones to me most of them are ugly damn phones but just my opinion. You like what you want as long as your happy with it right? That"s all that counts in the end of the battle of the phones. I am happy with my hercules for now!!!
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Seriously though to each his own I like sg2 thats just my preference.. Some like htc and motorola phones to me most of them are ugly damn phones but just my opinion. You like what you want as long as your happy with it right? That"s all that counts in the end of the battle of the phones. I am happy with my hercules for now!!!
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+1. Well put!!
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Lol. Where's your n4 then?
What a Dink! Lol
If XDA frowns upon opinions....let them say so....otherwise shhhhh. Wow!
P.s. the only crying I've seen in this thread is from you....crying about noobs and their inferior opinions. Lol
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I'm patiently waiting for shipping orders to finish. Then I'm selling this t989 and jumping ship back onto the Nexus. As far as what the guy up top said about development on the Nexus, clearly he's new to XDA. No phone has more dev support than the Nexus line does. In fact, much of your favorite AOSP roms were built and first released on Nexus devices. Not only that but Nexus devices always get Google's newest OS' first. The t989 doesn't even have full Jelly Bean GPU driver support.. you guys don't even know what project butter truly is yet.
Second, the t989s dual core s3/adreno 220 SoC cannot in anyway whatsoever compete with the quad s4 pro/adreno 320 SoC. You can clock this phone as high as you want and score 9000 on antutu and its still not enough to beat the 13,000 the s4 pro SoC averages.. and that's on stock builds.
Third, if you say the 720p IPS display isn't better than the 480p over saturated SAMOLED display on the t989, clearly you're either blind or couldn't tell a good display if one took a dump on your eyeballs. While blacks will never be as deep, color reproduction is much better on the Nexus 4. And if Voodoo follows suit like on the other Nexus devices, well be able to tweak and calibrate the screen to our will.
Battery life? Nexus 4 wins hands down. Build quality? The t989 looks like crap compared to the Nexus 4.
Working for T-Mobile, I've already played with about 4 Nexus 4s. They're beautiful devices. Super fast and smooth.
Now stop hating and come back to reality. This phone wasn't even better than the other GSIIs, let alone any flagship device released this year. We can all use the "my phone does everything well" excuse but frankly, so can my old single core Nexus S.
With that being said, you kids can continue making up all sorts of crazyness up in trying to justify your purchase over a brand new handset that's better in every conceivable way. It makes for some great comedy.
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Don't take it so personal is all. No one was "crying" and some don't need the fastest phone on earth to be perfectly happy.
Seems the phone crowd has some min/maxers....which is fine ...their choice. I don't have a top of the line gaming computer either....my laptop "does what I want it to do" just fine. Just like my Hercules.
I will be keeping this phone for some time. I could buy an n4, or anything else for that matter, tomorrow .....but I feel no need to. That's me. Maybe not you.
Can't we all use whatever phone we want without the hate?
Read the n4 forum....many....many people saying the same things I said about the n4....I didnt make a call tho....so guess I missed out on hearing the buzzing everyone is excited about! Lol. Bottom line....for me.....never bought an LG product I was happy with.
Take care dude....guess you'll be off to live in the n4 forums!
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Don't take it so personal is all. No one was "crying" and some don't need the fastest phone on earth to be perfectly happy.
Seems the phone crowd has some min/maxers....which is fine ...their choice. I don't have a top of the line gaming computer either....my laptop "does what I want it to do" just fine. Just like my Hercules.
I will be keeping this phone for some time. I could buy an n4, or anything else for that matter, tomorrow .....but I feel no need to. That's me. Maybe not you.
Can't we all use whatever phone we want without the hate?
Read the n4 forum....many....many people saying the same things I said about the n4....I didnt make a call tho....so guess I missed out on hearing the buzzing everyone is excited about! Lol. Bottom line....for me.....never bought an LG product I was happy with.
Take care dude....guess you'll be off to live in the n4 forums!
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Well see, your opinion makes sense. I can dig that. Unfortunately that's not the OPs reasoning as he full out stated that the t989 is better. You can be happy with whatever device you want. You can't take that away from anyone. But facts are facts. And this device doesn't come anywhere close to a Nexus 4. That's all I'm saying.
Anyways this thread is troll bait. Someone close it lol
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Nice! Lol. Telling people in the n4 forum to come troll this thread!
Enjoy your n4....don't drop it 3 feet tho....heard bad things will happen! Lol
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Nice! Lol. Telling people in the n4 forum to come troll this thread!
Enjoy your n4....don't drop it 3 feet tho....heard bad things will happen! Lol
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I won't. I haven't even dropped my t989 once in the 9 months I've had it. Don't jinx me though! And yea I told them to troll. This thread is troll bait. Thought it would make for a good show > haha
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Nice! Lol. Telling people in the n4 forum to come troll this thread!
Enjoy your n4....don't drop it 3 feet tho....heard bad things will happen! Lol
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Dropped it twice, waist high, No problems here seriously it's a phone with glass, just like the t989(don't think the t989 has gorilla glass 2 though) but if your not careful its going to break like every other phone.
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As a former T989 owner and a current nexus 4 owner, this thread makes me laugh (and I was running AOKP jellybean on mine). Don't get me wrong, I loved my hercules and it is still a great phone, but let's be realistic here. The nexus 4 is hands down a better device in almost every way possible.
Screen
The display is far from "carp". Yes, if you are used to AMOLED displays (like the one on the T989), you will initially find the colors to be "washed out". But in reality, this is because AMOLED screens have grossly over-saturated and unrealistic colors. The blacks are not as deep as AMOLED but they are damn close (again this is due to the nature of IPS displays). Nexus 4 screen is much much sharper, the whites are actually white (and not blue like the one on the T989) and colors are more natural. There is a reason why most reviewers rate is as one of the best displays on any phone. IMO, there is no competition here.
Performance
Again, there is a big difference here (even with JB on the T989). Nexus 4 is smoother and snappier in general use. But heavy usage like gaming is where the biggest difference lies. As for benchmarks, the lower than expected scores are due to benchmark programs not being optimised for 4.2 (go see the difference between the new and old version of Antutu). And honestly, in reality, benchmarks don't mean s***. All I need to know is that this phone handles everything I throw at it without any hiccups and certainly much better than the T989. If you think that a two gen old dual core with 1 Gb ram preforms as a well as the current top end quad core with twice the ram, you are delusional.
Storage and battery
Storage is the only area where T989 has an advantage with its micro sd slot. If you are the type of person that needs to store all of your life on your phone then nexus 4 is not for you. Personally, I barely store anything on my phone (I had used up only about 4 gb of the internal space on my t989) as everything is on the cloud, so even the 8GB nexus 4 is more than enough. Again this is a personal thing so it's a disadvantage for some people but not others.
Battery life for me has been much better on the nexus 4 than on the t989. Obviously, everyone's usage is different so this will vary from person to person, but I'm extremely happy with mine.
Build quality
Here again, there is no competition. The nexus 4 has a much more solid build and has a very premium feel to it. My T989's plastic back started to creak like crazy just after a few days of owning it and it drove me crazy. I thought I was using a low-end entry level device rather than a premium product.
Yes the nexus has a glass back and yes glass cracks when you drop it...who knew huh? So if you are the type to drop your phone frequently, don't buy it or just get a case for it, end of story.
As for the problems being reported, very few newly released devices are without issues and this is a fact. T989 had it's fair share of problems, some of which have still not been fixed till this day (sticky power button anyone?). If you are someone who can't handle even a minor problem with your device, than a newly released phone is not for you (whether it be a nexus 4 or something else). And let's not forget that problems reported on online forums can be blown out of proportion. After all, only those who have issues are going to complain, while those without issues will probably remain silent. Personally, my nexus 4 is flawless, except for the slight static/buzzing problem from the earpiece reported by many people. However, this noise is very faint and inaudible during calls, so this is a non-issue for me. I'm confident that google will fix the issue and when they do, I will ask them to send me a replacement. After all, that's what the warranty is there for. In the mean time, I'm really enjoying owning this phone over my t989.
Oh and let's not forget about the pure android experience and the fact that you will get updates as soon as google releases them. Even if you are into modding, the nexus is the best phone for that as well as its modding community has always been the strongest out of any android phone. You guys really need to step back and look at things objectively here. As someone who has owned and lived with both phones, I can tell you that there is no competition between the two.

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