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SG2 and Hardware Acceleration

There's no denying that as it stands the SG2 is the fastest android smartphone out now. I don't own one but based on what i'm hearing its crazy fast. My question is with its speed (thanks 2 the dual-core processor) would it benefit from the hardware acceleration that comes with ICS?? Does the UI in this phone running as smooth as an iphone or the Samsung Galaxy Nexus without hardware acceleration? Or despite its speed does it occasionally still stutter in between screens from time to time or jumping in between apps??

It stutters because we don't have the Exynos. Still pretty badass overall, and hopefully ICS makes it even better.
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TJBunch1228 said:
It stutters because we don't have the Exynos. Still pretty badass overall, and hopefully ICS makes it even better.
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It doesn't shutter cuz its not exynos. Those problem can be solved by touchscreen tweaks
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TJBunch1228 said:
It stutters because we don't have the Exynos. Still pretty badass overall, and hopefully ICS makes it even better.
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You can truly fix any lag with good software. It's no different than a ps3 and xbox 360. The ps3 is more powerful but xbox 360 games are easier to program for. Why you think that all multi-platform games run better on the 360 than ps3. Most developers here have massive experience with qualcomm processor. Then with a exynos.
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with the stock rom, it stutters from time to time, when you scroll through the apps list (people who say its just the same, either doesnt pay attention to details, haven't seen how smoother exynos versions run, or are in denial. period). from what ive been reading here, touchwiz is hardware accelerated on phones with exynos. and it is true that good software can fix this problem. i started using beastmod 1.0 rom 3 days ago, and the stuttering (while browsing through the apps list) went away. mostly because of the tweaks. and another thing is, its the smallest file sized rom for our sg2, so far. that means, less load. more free RAM. obviously it'll run faster. the trick is, keep more than 450mb+ RAM free, to keep it silky smooth. at least on my phone, it works.
but one thing for sure. hardware acceleration gives a very big advantage. imagine combining hardware acceleration with these dev's modded roms..
the only con part of the snapdragon is, it is running both cpu and gpu on a single bus lane, which causes more traffic, and can be easily bottlenecked. while the exynos has 2 dedicated lanes, one for the cpu and another for its gpu. giving more space to breathe and run processes smoother, separately. plus exynos' mali-400mp gpu has four cores.
the good side about the snapdragon is its power management. runs on battery much, much longer.
it all boils down to one thing. when ICS comes out, im counting on it to make our phones a lot smoother, not just on a few things that the exynos hardware accelerates, but overall.
people are saying our gpu is much faster, its just not utilized correctly (i dont know how much technically inclined, on the hardware side, those people are). but websites have a variety of benchmark/real world results showing how powerful the exynos gpu really is.
honestly, i really dont care if exynos' gpu is much better, i dont play crysis on my phone. as long as our phone's gpu deliver enough power to be as smooth as the exynos' with ICS, i'll be an even happier camper

i don't know how it's going to be when ICS arrives
but even know the phone feels sooooooo fluid, it's hard to imagine how much better it can get with HW accel
on the I9000 and nexus S it's a night and day difference when you have HW accel apps vs not

The Galaxy Nexus, even with roms, is not as fast as the Exynos GSII

I have a GSM Galaxy Nexus and it has AOKP build 25 with Fugomod kernel on it and this thing still is laggy. I tried many different roms and kernels and it still lags. I'm pretty sure my GSII was faster.
Some people say they have a buttery smooth Nexus and I'm jealous of you because mine feels like a 700mhz single core phone with 256mb of ram.
What's the deal? Why is it lagging (stock keyboard, browsing, app drawer, etc)
And I'm not trying to "bash". I want to keep the phone but the slowness is frustrating.
UPDATE 2/27/11 - I wiped my phone and flashed the Apex 1.02 Rom and now the phone is really fast. Some occasional hiccups but not a big deal.
I'm a very happy GN owner now.

You're holding it wrong.
Edit: somebody delete this thread, OP posted exact same post on a similar oriented thread..

bk201doesntexist said:
You're holding it wrong.
Edit: somebody delete this thread, OP posted exact same post on a similar oriented thread..
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I accidentally posted it in a thread I was reading.

You are either doing it wrong or trolling. My guess is trolling.

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You are either doing it wrong or trolling. My guess is trolling.
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So nobody can state their Galaxy Nexus is laggy? If so then you're a troll? I don't understand that logic.

I'm so sick of people comparing the galaxy nexus to the gs2. They are different classes of phones. The gs2 is running on a screen with a much lower resolution and an old version of android. If I take my PC which runs any game great on my 19" monitor and then connect it to my 46" HDTV the same games run laggy because my video card is working much harder to run the game at the higher resolution. Also if I play a game on windows xp and then play the same game on windows 7 the game tends to run slower because as operating systems evolve they tend to need more resources and also add new enhancements that add more strain on the hardware. I'm sure you can put android 4.0 on a HTC dream but will it run well? Not a chance because android 4.0 uses more juice then android 1.5 that the dream came with. I bet if you could install android 2.3 on the galaxy nexus it would fly like a bat out of hell.
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I came from an E4GT and my GN feels just as fast.

Put foxhound 1.1 stock,my phone runs buttery smooth and Ferrari fast,with 24hrs of battery,everything on,3hr screen. You gotta find the right rom kernel combo man.I pottered around with aokp and apex and Franco for 2 months and then tried foxhound one day. Never going back. Just keep at it. Its fun man.
And guys please don't flame the guy,its very distasteful.
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OMG MEGAHERTZ PROCESSOR RACE!!1
I don't quite get it. Is this a pissing contest? The Gnex runs way fast for a cellphone.
Maybe I'm getting old.

crossover37 said:
So nobody can state their Galaxy Nexus is laggy? If so then you're a troll? I don't understand that logic.
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cablemike01 said:
I'm so sick of people comparing the galaxy nexus to the gs2. They are different classes of phones. The gs2 is running on a screen with a much lower resolution and an old version of android. If I take my PC which runs any game great on my 19" monitor and then connect it to my 46" HDTV the same games run laggy because my video card is working much harder to run the game at the higher resolution. Also if I play a game on windows xp and then play the same game on windows 7 the game tends to run slower because as operating systems evolve they tend to need more resources and also add new enhancements that add more strain on the hardware. I'm sure you can put android 4.0 on a HTC dream but will it run well? Not a chance because android 4.0 uses more juice then android 1.5 that the dream came with. I bet if you could install android 2.3 on the galaxy nexus it would fly like a bat out of hell.
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Ok I get what you're saying but Google knew this so why didn't they add a more powerful GPU to handle these issues?

psycho2097 said:
Put foxhound 1.1 stock,my phone runs buttery smooth and Ferrari fast,with 24hrs of battery,everything on,3hr screen. You gotta find the right rom kernel combo man.I pottered around with aokp and apex and Franco for 2 months and then tried foxhound one day. Never going back. Just keep at it. Its fun man.
And guys please don't flame the guy,its very distasteful.
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I'll try foxhound, thanks.
What's your reason for not using the latest 18.4 Franco Kernel and instead opting for the 14.4 version.

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I'll try foxhound, thanks.
What's your reason for not using the latest 18.4 Franco Kernel and instead opting for the 14.4 version.
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Unsure about that poster's experience, but 18.4 is awesome for me, and so far synergises really well with CM9.

crossover37 said:
So nobody can state their Galaxy Nexus is laggy? If so then you're a troll? I don't understand that logic.
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You said:
"Some people say they have a buttery smooth Nexus and I'm jealous of you because mine feels like a 700mhz single core phone with 256mb of ram."
That is so far outside the norm that you are either trolling, have a defective device or flashed and did something so screwed up that its messing with your device. So either:
1. Do a complete wipe, including formatting data, cache, dalvik and system. Install AOKP, gaaps with trinity kernel (basic one for all devices). Reboot. Download auto start manager and kill anything like maps or talk that you don't want running at startup. Go into settings and set cpu to 1.2, 400mhz with on demand or performance scaling. Set on boot checked. Reboot. Then tell me the phone is slow.
2. Don't use live wall paper. Most of them are not optimized for ICS
3. Return your device and get another one its broken.

My laptop is faster than your GSII.

crossover37 said:
Ok I get what you're saying but Google knew this so why didn't they add a more powerful GPU to handle these issues?
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because google knows this is already powerful enough and the only place that it would make a difference is in benchmarks. Remember the nexus is the reference phone the developers are supposed to base their applications on. So in theory all app should run perfectly on all nexus devices. Basically any app made in 2012 should run perfectly on this phone. Think of it this way this is the minimum hardware requirements for apps and if a manufacturer goes beyond the specs its all gravy basically bragging rights but realistically this device has more than enough power to handle what google intended it for.
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I'll play since I've recently made the jump as well and I think I'm coming in with an "unbiased" opinion. Keep in mind I'm much happier with my GN than I was with my I9100, which I'm also keeping at least until kernel source is released for ICS. Using CM9 on the Nexus and using CM9 on the SGSII, no comparison for me, Nexus wins, hands down as far as fluidity and feel goes, ignoring the fact that so many things still don't work on the SGSII.
There are ever so slight cpu and gpu advantages that I've noticed on the SGSII. Very occasionally might be felt as a lag or stutter. For the most part however I find the GN "smoother" over all. Alternative launchers (Nova) lag for me on the GN going in/out of the app drawer, but removing widgets from the app drawer cured that. I may have to wait an extra second, maybe two, for the desktop to be fully fluid following a boot. I've never experienced keyboard lag, or alike.
In the end however, I didn't buy the GN because I thought it would kill the SGSII performance wise and the specs didn't lead me to believe that would be the case. A couple of non-performance or Android related things I really appreciate are the feel of the phone in my hand, and the action of the buttons. What I used to jokingly refer to as the "panty liner shape" of the phone is comfortable in my pocket.
It might take some more kernel experimenting on your part to find one that feels good for you. When I was on AOKP I found Leankernel to be absolutely buttery. Slight cpu/gpu advantages aside, I feel that the GN is the better phone overall and it's still a bloody fast unit, and my next device will be a Nexus as well. I'd say 95% of the time the phone feels as fast, and potentially more fluid, than my old phone.

So this year we're gonna have all these new quad core phones coming out which is great, but when the new version of android comes out we will get it right away and all those new quad core phones will be waiting up to a year to get it and by then the new version of android will be out yet again. You don't get a nexus phone for it's powerful processor look for it support and long term commitment. I had 5 android phones in the last year and I will never get anything other then a nexus because of all the stress I had trying to get updates for my other phones. My last phone the optimus 3 d was a very good phone butwe just got gingerbread a few weeks ago and lg is saying we will get ice cream sandwich in the third quarter f 2012. By then my nexus phone will probably have the new version of android. And I'm sure that lg will be dropping support for that phone because they'll have a new 1 out. But my nexus phone will most likely be supported through 2013.
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The OMAP SoC in the Galaxy Nexus is superior to that in the GS2. It was the best SoC available for the release date they wanted.
Maybe the Exynos can benchmark higher but as Fancisco pointed out
"Most GPU workloads on 4460 with a 720p screen are limited by the
memory bandwidth, not the GPU computation ability"
I am fairly sure the OMAP SoC we have has a much higher memory bandwidth than the GS2 ^.^

TheRiceKing said:
The OMAP SoC in the Galaxy Nexus is superior to that in the GS2. It was the best SoC available for the release date they wanted.
Maybe the Exynos can benchmark higher but as Fancisco pointed out
"Most GPU workloads on 4460 with a 720p screen are limited by the
memory bandwidth, not the GPU computation ability"
I am fairly sure the OMAP SoC we have has a much higher memory bandwidth than the GS2 ^.^
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Not quite. Not sure about the exact memory channel speed but they both utilize same exact memory setup dual channel LPDDR2
OMAP was the SoC that Google chose
It's essentially a terrible choice with grossly outdated gpu in a platform where GPU will start to drive every day operation
This isn't to say that Mali400MP setup is the greatest in the GPU choice but eventhough it's inefficient, it's able to push through with raw power
I may get a bit of flake for this but Nexus does micro-stutter in some instances in places like the stock app drawer (this is addressed with nova launcher but question was does the GNex stutter).
I wouldn't blame the slight lagginess or stutters on the hardware just yet seeing how ICS is still fairly new and there is also the issue with maturity of apps running ICS.

Thanks guys for your responses. I'm not trying to be a pain; just annoyed that my old phone felt smoother.
I installed Apex rom and so far it feels very fast so hopefully it will stay this way. I kept the kernel that was packaged with the rom.
Another reason I thought it was slow was because I would type on the desktop site of XDA. Using the app doesn't cause the keyboard lag. It still is strange why the keyboard would lag like that while posting on XDA.

Galaxy nexus faster than galaxy s2 & sony xperia s?

I saw the review of the ics gs2 and at the end i saw some benchmarks... on the cpu side the nexus seems to hold its own againts the xperia s which on paper has a faster cpu snapdragon 3 1.5Ghz compare to omap 4460 1.2.. also gs2 seems to be slightly slower in the cpu benchmarks compared to Gnex.... What do you think?
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_ics_vs_gingerbread-review-737p4.php
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ray3andrei said:
I saw the review of the ics gs2 and at the end i saw some benchmarks... on the cpu side the nexus seems to hold its own againts the xperia s which on paper has a faster cpu snapdragon 3 1.5Ghz compare to omap 4460 1.2.. also gs2 seems to be slightly slower in the cpu benchmarks compared to Gnex.... What do you think.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_ics_vs_gingerbread-review-737p4.php
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gs2 is surely faster on graphics (it has a more advanced gpu, though clocked slower), but it has less screen resolution.
on the cpu side they should be pretty equivalent.
i don't know about the xperia.

In real world usage my SGS2 was significantly faster than my GNEX in every department barring taking a picture.

I wouldn't trust that much on benchmarks.
What matters is how polished the stock roms are for each device.
I love how the nexus keep running smooth even after installing a ton of apps, never experienced the same with other devices.

While the MSM8260 (Xperia S) is clocked faster, it has a single channel memory interface while the TI-OMAP 4460 (Galaxy Nexus) has a dual channel interface.
Also beware of those benchmark tools. Most of them are crap. For example they use the phone's resolution to do 2D/3D benchmark which is not a fair way to compare.

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In real world usage my SGS2 was significantly faster than my GNEX in every department barring taking a picture.
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Was it significantly faster in getting updates?

Benchmarks are cool in a sense, but I've started ignoring them. My GNex has been really fast, even with Window and Transition Animations. There are exceptions. I ABUSE my Android devices with heat (nature of my work environment). When it gets hot, it does lag. At the same time, the CPU is also scaling itself back. When I get the rare lock'n'reboot it's pretty much always due to heat. Typically, flinging through settings, menus, apps, etc is really fast. Right now I have wireless tethering on and I'm streaming audio through Tune In. My battery is almost 120F. It's slower. Any device would be. If I pick up my Nook running CM7, it'll be slower right now too due to heat.
Benchmarks mean very little to me now. I mean, what's the point? What are you gonna do, brag about a superficial number? Get it engraved on your belt buckle? I think they can be an indication of certain aspects of a device, but benchmarks do not necessarily tell someone what kind of user experience that device is going to provide.
If I pick up my favorite device and I can do what I want to do quickly and smoothly then I'm fine with it. Even OCing a high end device is something I've never been able to tell a difference with. Now my Nook, yeah, an overclock worked wonders. On the GNex, pish, nah. Remember too, a lot of these 1.5Ghz devices are pushing a bloated framework too. Beyond that, ICS is going to have it's own limitations, especially when it has bugs to get worked out.
It can kinda be like cramming 16GB's of Ram into a PC running 32 bit Windows 7. The hardware addition is irrelevant and while you can brag about 16 gigs of ram to all of your friends, it's a pointless feature of your system.

one thing for sure is that software optimization means much more than hardware differences between those 3 phones.
thus, it depends on what you're going to run: stock, aosp, cyanogen, miui? that's the question.

zapek666 said:
While the MSM8260 (Xperia S) is clocked faster, it has a single channel memory interface while the TI-OMAP 4460 (Galaxy Nexus) has a dual channel interface.
Also beware of those benchmark tools. Most of them are crap. For example they use the phone's resolution to do 2D/3D benchmark which is not a fair way to compare.
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This. I think one of my favorite aspects of the nexus is its dual channel memory. So important for performance.

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In real world usage my SGS2 was significantly faster than my GNEX in every department barring taking a picture.
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To me it seems exactly the opossite.. my gnex is faster than my gs2.... except in gaming.. the animations on the gs2 are different, than on the stock ics...
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My nexus is much faster at browsing than my wires gs2, and my work iphone4s..what? I didn't get to choose!
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I've used both the tmobile s2 and now the nexus....I'm a big time xda guy and root user so as the developers went to the nexus, I went to the nexus! Lol! If the s2 gets stock ics, it'll be just as good but that'll be a long time! We nexus users have had ics for months already!
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I've used both the tmobile s2 and now the nexus....I'm a big time xda guy and root user so as the developers went to the nexus, I went to the nexus! Lol! If the s2 gets stock ics, it'll be just as good but that'll be a long time! We nexus users have had ics for months already!
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We've had a pretty stable CM9 for the i9100 for quite a while now. But it still can't compare to the Galaxy Nexus....can't wait for mine to come

Just swapped over from the t989 gs2. The nexus is much smoother. We were always telling ourselves that our phones were better because of the supposedly better hardware... There were many threads Lol. Now that I have it I can see the experience doesn't even compare. Never buying anything touchwiz again

My Thoughts On Android 4.0.4 (GSM) GNexus

So as a person who has ranted on this board before on how ****ty 4.0.2 was, I just wanted to give my thoughts on 4.0.4
The main point I want to make is that this update is really really really good!
Good Points:
-WAY Smoother overall.
-Browser Is WAY smoother and much better at rendering pages properly (Big thing for me since I constantly use the browser throughout my day).
-I don't think chrome is even necessary at this point. They will probably just merge the two.
-Camera seems much better, although my not a huge photo guy.
-Battery life is incredible! On 4.0.2 I would barely make it till the end of my day (6pm-9pm). Right now I still have 68% left. My results aren't the norm since, I rarely use the phone for long periods of times. But the difference is definitely noticeable in my daily useage.
-Switching between 3G/4G seems much better now. Everything tends load quicker now. (Twitter, browser, pulse, etc.)
There are other good points, but these are what most matter to me.
Bad Points:
-Still a slight lag between pushing multitask button and the apps showing up. But it is much improved over 4.0.2
-Some slight lag when opening app-drawer (transition is not smooth, but not bad either) However in app-drawer everything is smooth
-Minor gripe that might only bother me, is that the calender widget now shows the colored squares that represent different calendars in the middle of the box for each event, I thought it looked much better when it was smaller and in the top left corner.
There might be others, but these are what really bug me.
So yea, I think this is great update and this how the nexus should have launched.
Btw I am curious about what SMP PREEMPT Mar 13 means under kernel version?
Thanks for taking the time to read this. =)

In the secret menu (you can access dialing *#*#4636#*#*, in the first section) It is selected 'WCDMA Preferrer' or GSM/CDMA Auto (PRL)?

Mrbigshot said:
-Some slight lag when opening app-drawer (transition is not smooth, but not bad either) However in app-drawer everything is smooth
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Are you using a live wallpaper? I noticed this too until I switched to a static wallpaper.
My main favorite of the update is auto-brightness actually works now, and has nice transitions when increasing/decreasing the brightness.
No native mounting of USB OTG storage yet though

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In the secret menu (you can access dialing *#*#4636#*#*, in the first section) It is selected 'WCDMA Preferrer' or GSM/CDMA Auto (PRL)?
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Wow, I did not even know about this menu. Mine has WCDMA Preferrer, should I change this to GSM? I am on T-Mobile

catpunt said:
Are you using a live wallpaper? I noticed this too until I switched to a static wallpaper.
My main favorite of the update is auto-brightness actually works now, and has nice transitions when increasing/decreasing the brightness.
No native mounting of USB OTG storage yet though
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Thanks! You were right on, now the transition is really smooth after I switched to static wallpaper. Hopefully they can fix the problem with live wallpapers down the line and hopefully it is not a GPU limitation.

4.0.4 fixed the Wi-Fi drop out problem with some routers.
This's a really big improvement.

My Bluetooth works now .on 4.0.2 yakju it didnt

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Wow, I did not even know about this menu. Mine has WCDMA Preferrer, should I change this to GSM? I am on T-Mobile
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Keep it on default. (Wcdma prefered)

Multitouch bug has gone
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Mrbigshot said:
Thanks! You were right on, now the transition is really smooth after I switched to static wallpaper. Hopefully they can fix the problem with live wallpapers down the line and hopefully it is not a GPU limitation.
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GPU limitation I'd say, same GPU that's in the Nexus S.
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gonucks said:
GPU limitation I'd say, same GPU that's in the Nexus S.
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Not the same GPU.
It has been beefed up considerably.
Nexus S GPU runs slower and is fed by single channel ram.

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GPU limitation I'd say, same GPU that's in the Nexus S.
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Same, but different.
Galaxy Nexus has an overclocked version.....also its being fed by dual-channel memory now. It's on average 100% faster in GL benchmark off-screen tests. Though dual-core CPU plays a bit of a role but GL benchmark is mainly GPU. So yea on average you can expect the Galaxy Nexus SGX540 to be about 100% faster than the Nexus S SGX540 or about double the GPU performance.
Of course, it still pales in comparison to SGX544mp2 and Mali-400
But I doubt it's GPU limitation holding back live wallpapers.....more like live-wallpapers not being optimized. I'd prefer to run a black background or something anyway to save battery....live wallpapers were fun for a little bit, but got boring fast.
You can check it out on anandtech
Edit: ^^ beat to post by 2 minutes haha

Is our gpu really that much slower than mali though? I thought i saw one particular benchmark between the two like 8 Mflops vs 5 Mflops...seems same ballpark to me. Just a lot more pixels to push in the HD screen
Over in the G note forum a thread exists claiming their mali gpu is too weak for their screen and that they experience stutters and lag. Makes me not feel so bad having our current gpu.

RogerPodacter said:
Is our gpu really that much slower than mali though? I thought i saw one particular benchmark between the two like 8 Mflops vs 5 Mflops...seems same ballpark to me. Just a lot more pixels to push in the HD screen
Over in the G note forum a thread exists claiming their mali gpu is too weak for their screen and that they experience stutters and lag. Makes me not feel so bad having our current gpu.
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Haha, really?

One thing that I am happy about is that on the lockscreen when you go to camera it goes straight into the camera rather than going to the homescreen AND THEN going into the camera app.

Why is panorama square? Is it just happening on my end? Started with 4.0.2 it's been square not rectangular shape.

RogerPodacter said:
Is our gpu really that much slower than mali though? I thought i saw one particular benchmark between the two like 8 Mflops vs 5 Mflops...seems same ballpark to me. Just a lot more pixels to push in the HD screen
Over in the G note forum a thread exists claiming their mali gpu is too weak for their screen and that they experience stutters and lag. Makes me not feel so bad having our current gpu.
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It's slower....around 50% slower than the Mali-400. But it's definitely not too weak.
There are a lot of things to account for.......the TI OMAP has HD coding capabilities which help it display things to the 1280x720 screen the Galaxy Nexus has much much easier and faster while being less "performance hungry" it's a pro of the TI OMAP that very few people take into account....Exynos can hold its ground though. In general though, the TI OMAP is a bit faster CPU wise than the Exynos, they trade blow really.
Nothing we use our phones for are really even taxing the GPU/CPU. Yea a few games here and there, but the Nexus can run them all fine. Android in general isn't really "Great" for playing games compared to iOS at leeast because of fragmentation etc...but it's great to use it for daily use and it does it's job.
Maybe when we start doing some crazy video/photo editing on smartphones.....CPU/GPU will play a much larger role. The biggest leap for android was probably single to dual-core and now, things aren't as big of a leap in general user experience performance.

So what custom ROM is the OP running? As he mentioned smoother 3G/4G switching...

Scottatron said:
So what custom ROM is the OP running? As he mentioned smoother 3G/4G switching...
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He's talking about the stock 4.0.4 OTA.

I think most people are getting a little overexcited about the "smoothness".
In my experience, 4.0.4 is not really "WAY SMOOTHER". I personally can't tell the difference and I pay a lot of attention to stuff like smooth transitions, scrolling, delays, multitasking, ...
The battery life is definitely improved though. I get a lot more "screen" and a lot less "android os".

How is GFX performance in JB?

Im asking since i just got my Nexus about a week ago and immediatly flashed JB stock ROM. My gripe with the Nexus before JB was the weak-ish GPU it had which made me steer away from it until JB announcement just made me get it no questions. Now im testing ShadowGun and it plays perfectly smooth and Quadrant 2D/3D benchmarks always are at or near 60fps. Since i did not have a Nexus in the ICS days, are GFX/Games better in JB or was performance the same? Because i underestimated the GPU before but its doing a great job so far in my tests... note to self: Just try the damn thing and forget the specs on paper *lesson learned
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mike21pr said:
Im asking since i just got my Nexus about a week ago and immediatly flashed JB stock ROM. My gripe with the Nexus before JB was the weak-ish GPU it had which made me steer away from it until JB announcement just made me get it no questions. Now im testing ShadowGun and it plays perfectly smooth and Quadrant 2D/3D benchmarks always are at or near 60fps. Since i did not have a Nexus in the ICS days, are GFX/Games better in JB or was performance the same? Because i underestimated the GPU before but its doing a great job so far in my tests... note to self: Just try the damn thing and forget the specs on paper *lesson learned
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about quadrant and the 59fps.. our devices are capped at 59fps. plus, our screen resolution is larger than most other devices, more pixels to push. so, at 59fps, it still looks great, on ics and jellybean. in jellybean we did gain a few more fps, but not in quadrant. if you want, go to the the main settings, developer settings, enable force gpu rendering. things will look a bit better, in the ui especially and in apps that can use gpu rendering. the "weak" gpu is just a myth that the media has scared us with.

I'm in ICS 4.0.4 and I feel sometimes Shadowgun doen't play all that smooth... don't know if it gets better in JB... but it's not 60fps... no way...

Marcio_Bianco said:
I'm in ICS 4.0.4 and I feel sometimes Shadowgun doen't play all that smooth... don't know if it gets better in JB... but it's not 60fps... no way...
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run nenamark2, thats the real fps that youre getting with some 3D games. using trinity kernel, i get 38.2fps. stock was around 31fps, if i remember right).

simms22 said:
run nenamark2, thats the real fps that youre getting with some 3D games. using trinity kernel, i get 38.2fps. stock was around 31fps, if i remember right).
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FTFY

adrynalyne said:
FTFY
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oh yea, thanks

simms22 said:
run nenamark2, thats the real fps that youre getting with some 3D games. using trinity kernel, i get 38.2fps. stock was around 31fps, if i remember right).
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thanks, I'll give it a try...
what about stock ICS vs. stock JB? any increase in gaming performance? or fps in nenamark?
EDIT: just ran nenamark, and got 26.6 fps...