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[q] development status

hey guys i am sorry if this sounds like a rant and please dont hang me for this... but here i go....whats going on with our development status for our EPIC's....what i mean is like why is it taking so long for like new roms to come out i havent had my epic for about a month cause i shattered my screen and its being fixed but i still come back on here trying to keep up on anything new but nothing chages....like for me to be hell yeah i am trying that out on my epic as soon as i get it lol...like for example BONSAI rom ive been a fan of it all and it has not been updated in a month and half....i am sorry if this sounds ungrateful but can some one shine some light on the subject for me please??

What for you mean bonsai hasn't been upgraded in a month and a half. You must not follow that closely. I'm on bonsai 4.0.0 and have so for a week. Ec05 just dropped so everyone is updating their roms. Please pay more attention before you rant. You just might not know what you are talking about. Besides these developers do this for FREE. IF you dont like having updates every week make a rom yourself and then you'll realize how time consuming it is.
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Good Lord. The bonsai ec05 was out before even released it publicly. I'm struggling with too much updates and flashing ever other week. Zzzzzz. I'm forcing myself to just chill out on old bonsai 3.0.1 cause I don't keep up with the rat race. Fun times on epic.
KaL-EL3038 said:
hey guys i am sorry if this sounds like a rant and please dont hang me for this... but here i go....whats going on with our development status for our EPIC's....what i mean is like why is it taking so long for like new roms to come out i havent had my epic for about a month cause i shattered my screen and its being fixed but i still come back on here trying to keep up on anything new but nothing chages....like for me to be hell yeah i am trying that out on my epic as soon as i get it lol...like for example BONSAI rom ive been a fan of it all and it has not been updated in a month and half....i am sorry if this sounds ungrateful but can some one shine some light on the subject for me please??
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I'm not sure how you can make tha statement if you spend any time on these forums. It is constant updates, and if you look in the develop's forums nearly every one of the more popular ROM's has been updated since 3/18. What are you expecting a release everyday?
Me thinks you should make your own ROM and release daily.
Then I must ask are you looking for releases just for the sake of a release? If there is nothing wrong then what do you have to improve? While I am anxiously waiting SRF 1.1 because it is offering many improvements, at the same time my phone is blazing fast with the best battery life I have had..
KaL-EL3038 said:
hey guys i am sorry if this sounds like a rant and please dont hang me for this... but here i go....whats going on with our development status for our EPIC's....what i mean is like why is it taking so long for like new roms to come out i havent had my epic for about a month cause i shattered my screen and its being fixed but i still come back on here trying to keep up on anything new but nothing chages....like for me to be hell yeah i am trying that out on my epic as soon as i get it lol...like for example BONSAI rom ive been a fan of it all and it has not been updated in a month and half....i am sorry if this sounds ungrateful but can some one shine some light on the subject for me please??
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My apologies
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What for you mean bonsai hasn't been upgraded in a month and a half. You must not follow that closely. I'm on bonsai 4.0.0 and have so for a week. Ec05 just dropped so everyone is updating their roms. Please pay more attention before you rant. You just might not know what you are talking about. Besides these developers do this for FREE. IF you dont like having updates every week make a rom yourself and then you'll realize how time consuming it is.
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well my mistake sir that i was not aware that you were suppose to go to the bonsai website to get the new updates i am use the the devs updating there thread with new downloads and changelogs and status.... and i never said they did not do them for free i never complained about that...and yes i am aware that its time consuming but..... all i asked was if some one can shine a light on me regarding if something was holding them back like stuck on something....but i guess i hurt some peoples feeling in here so
MOD PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD....I APOLOGIZE FOR HURTING ANYONE'S FEELINGS...

my feelings are hurt. le sigh.

So you were talking a bout a specific ROM? What about all the others that have been updated since 3/18?
And for the record, my feelings weren't hurt, I'm not a developer.

Q and a no replies?!?!?!?!!!

Why questions and answers? Ok so I set up an account here in xda hoping to get some useful insight about some things for my phone. Well since I just set up account here on XDA can only post here. WELL I GOT NP REPLIES THANKS. So my question now is what is the point of strickening new members to q and a only if no one responds? Guess ill have to stick to phandroid.
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I know it can be frustrating at times especially when you need an answer asap.. but there may be a few reasons why no one answers your question
-its been asked way too many times (search for it)
-no one understands your question or knows the answer
-the evo 4g isn't neccesarily "new" therefore there's less traffic in this forum
-People work have other things to deal with and it may be a while (sometimes a long while) before you get an answer.
Sent from my Random, old but still kickin, Epic 4g

j7jman said:
I know it can be frustrating at times especially when you need an answer asap.. but there may be a few reasons why no one answers your question
-its been asked way too many times (search for it)
-no one understands your question or knows the answer
-the evo 4g isn't neccesarily "new" therefore there's less traffic in this forum
-People work have other things to deal with and it may be a while (sometimes a long while) before you get an answer.
Sent from my Random, old but still kickin, Epic 4g
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Basically covered all the reasons why not to reply.

And when your question is about MetroPCS (I checked), you're less likely to get replies because the vast majority of members here use Sprint.
If there's a specific site for phones flashed to other networks, you'd be better asking there. People can't answer what they don't know.
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Don't know your question but if it pertains to flashing to other networks maybe try Howardforums
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Not going to beat a dead horse here but another tip here that you didn't hear from me is the bump. You posted that question 5 days ago and I assume was 3-5 pages back by now. I usually give my post a day then go back in and post the "anyone figure this out yet?" bump. Usually it will get a response. Like they already said, this forum is over a year old. Most have moved on and the ones that are here with the answers usually only bounce in and out of their own Rom threads.
teh roxxors is one of the RARE people that come slumming back to us from the 3d world to help out lol.

blizzard1017 said:
Not going to beat a dead horse here but another tip here that you didn't hear from me is the bump. You posted that question 5 days ago and I assume was 3-5 pages back by now. I usually give my post a day then go back in and post the "anyone figure this out yet?" bump. Usually it will get a response. Like they already said, this forum is over a year old. Most have moved on and the ones that are here with the answers usually only bounce in and out of their own Rom threads.
teh roxxors is one of the RARE people that come slumming back to us from the 3d world to help out lol.
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Very true advice about the bumping. And its hard to slum back from the 3D world when I never left 2D?!

I don't know what either of you guys are talking about. I've been 3D ever since I was born. *rimshot* /lame play on words joke

Concordium said:
I don't know what either of you guys are talking about. I've been 3D ever since I was born. *rimshot* /lame play on words joke
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I'm pretty sure I saw you on my 2D block the other day...just past vertex lane.

teh roxxorz said:
I'm pretty sure I saw you on my 2D block the other day...just past vertex lane.
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Nope. I was doing hard time in prism at the time.

Concordium said:
Nope. I was doing hard time in prism at the time.
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Officer parallelogram is a meany.

teh roxxorz said:
Officer parallelogram is a meany.
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Yeah he is. He said I was being rowdy during chow so he put me in isometric confinement.

Lol the whole reason I posted this was to see what replies this would get or should I say an answer. The question wasn't really that common I posted I searched everywhere I got an answer right away elsewhere so it couldn't have been the long while issue. No big deal just seems kinda useless to have to post in q and a at first. Give me the secret society/Howard forums feel.
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mteezey said:
Lol the whole reason I posted this was to see what replies this would get or should I say an answer. The question wasn't really that common I posted I searched everywhere I got an answer right away elsewhere so it couldn't have been the long while issue. No big deal just seems kinda useless to have to post in q and a at first. Give me the secret society/Howard forums feel.
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Then please feel free to remain over at the other forums instead of coming here and whining about how you didn't get an answer fast enough about a topic that hardly anyone here has any experience with.

I'm sure there is plenty of experience on this forum. The experienced ones probably don't hang out in the q and a forums that's all. 90 % of the data provisions for metro will be found on xda and if you search it on another site... guess what it links you here. That being said this thread was started to see if it got attention. Which it did. No whining just sharing my thoughts on why we should be able to post anywhere. Since experienced user's don't chill in the q & a?
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mteezey said:
I'm sure there is plenty of experience on this forum. The experienced ones probably don't hang out in the q and a forums that's all. 90 % of the data provisions for metro will be found on xda and if you search it on another site... guess what it links you here. That being said this thread was started to see if it got attention. Which it did. No whining just sharing my thoughts on why we should be able to post anywhere. Since experienced user's don't chill in the q & a?
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Experienced users do post in the Q & A section. And to make a thread just to see if it gets attention seems like a trap / childish [to me] , just like a person would pretend to have a fake bf/gf to see if the other gets jealous. Though regardless, experienced user do post here, I've seen it quite frequently. IF there were some question that wasn't answered and someone knows someone who can help, 9/10 that personal would say, "I don't know how to help,but if you look up _______ they can help you."
Also, the only place you can't post til abot 20 posts or so, if the development section. That's only because a lot of new users post Q & A questions there, clogging up that board, when they belong here. You can still read and download rom, just can't post there til ~20 posts, when you are more 'educated' on the forum. No bad mouthing, just saying.

I totally understand cause yea you do see it all the time where at the end of a guide full of roms. Someone asks what's a good rom or where do I find it. We should be able to take a test on experience to bypass the 20 post thing. My frustration came from knowing my answered would of lyed on this forum but no one even viewed it for days. I'm over that's what I get for getting a device that's over a year old. But hey its a big step up from my old one.
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mteezey said:
I totally understand cause yea you do see it all the time where at the end of a guide full of roms. Someone asks what's a good rom or where do I find it. We should be able to take a test on experience to bypass the 20 post thing. My frustration came from knowing my answered would of lyed on this forum but no one even viewed it for days. I'm over that's what I get for getting a device that's over a year old. But hey its a big step up from my old one.
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Well a lot of people still have the evo. And you can always try the bump, or if you see someone active on the forum, shoot them a pm; they'll most likely help you.

Maybe ill make my 20 posts of this thread. Jk I shouldn't really need much help on this device now that o know my data stays even when I flash roms that was my main concern.
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That's what was confusing I see so much activity on the evo threads everywhere. I figured my question had to be seen. And like someone else up here said usuallybsomeone familiar with the forum will send you in the right directioon if they themselves don't know the answer.
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So Confusing..

I'm still new to this device. I'm having issues figuring out which kernels go to which version of GB and ICS.
Which Kernels will work on EL29 only?
Which ones will work on ICS and GB (EL29)
Why are kernels and Recovery mixed together? Why not make it simple to understand and locate?
EL29 Kernel ver 1.3.3 GB only - Example. Now I know I can't use this on ICS, only version EL29 of GB. Oh and it's a Kernel.
Not a recoveryIcsv13.3..3.3kerneldotninerwtfz0rz.tar.zip. That makes it confusing.
Anyone able to offer any clarity or an decoder ring so that I may understand this better?
If want to try a new kernel for EL29 GB, I can't because I have not farking clue if I'm getting one with a recovery, if it's GB or ICS only etc.
If I want to try an ICS kernel, but use it on GB, I'm lost because I thought they weren't compatible but people are apparently doing it.
Also, recoveries. "Don't use hitman" seems to be the theme. Along with Touch CWM being another issue.
Rogue Recovery is hitman? or hitman is hitman?
While this phone is superior to the Evo3D, at least the development wasn't a greek VCR manual from 1928.
Zzzz

sounds like you need to do a lot more reading before you mess with this phone.
This Forum was always for Developers, not for Newbies, so its organized with that in mind..
there are other forums you may want to visit as well, where they cater more to novices; or, just do the smart thing, and don't mess with your electronic devices unless you are 99.99% sure you know what you are doing

Read and read and then read some more.....Samsung puts recovery in kernel nothing we can do about that ....most kernels will have a recovery in them ..these leaks are different right now...they are using ics 3.0 kernels on ics but not on GB ....the people you have seen are taking the radio fb21 etc .... Read and be safe don't be a brick
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wase4711 said:
sounds like you need to do a lot more reading before you mess with this phone.
This Forum was always for Developers, not for Newbies, so its organized with that in mind..
there are other forums you may want to visit as well, where they cater more to novices; or, just do the smart thing, and don't mess with your electronic devices unless you are 99.99% sure you know what you are doing
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+1 This is a dev website. Go over to Android central or rootzwiki if you have questions like this...and ask for Bubby (sorry i couldn't resist...lol)
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You all basically told me I'm dumb.
lol. k.

not at all, man...we've all been where you are at, and have realized that until we had the knowledge to be able to tweak our phones properly, we had to read, learn, and, read some more.
Isn't it better to know this stuff BEFORE you do something to break your phone?
I mean, you wouldn't want a surgeon to operate on you until he was sure he knew what he was doing, would you?
Its no different with this stuff; you'll be much happier if you build your knowledge about this thing before you go messing with it.
Its no reflection of your intelligence, its just a statement of fact about your current abilities as they pertain to this phone..
You may be a Mensa for all we know!!

If you are going to respond to a post already, answer the fing questions. You are already putting the effort in of typing. This is the best site for this **** don't tell him to go somewhere where there more ppl like him who do not know what hey are talking about. Always with this elitist sh*t.

well, since you seem to be a know it all, why don't YOU answer them?

at what point during my post did I indicate I know it all?

All the stock and stock repacked GB kernels can be mix/matched between the different stock GB releases. They will NOT boot for an ICS ROM.
All the stock and stock repacked ICS kernels can be mix/matched between the different stock ICS releases. They will NOT boot for a GB ROM.
By "work" I mean they boot and data works. Beyond that, you'd have to experiment to see if what you care about works to your expectations. In general things will work, but I obviously don't test everything, and the combination Samsung/Sprint tests is matched kernels and ROMs.

polska2180o said:
If you are going to respond to a post already, answer the fing questions. You are already putting the effort in of typing. This is the best site for this **** don't tell him to go somewhere where there more ppl like him who do not know what hey are talking about. Always with this elitist sh*t.
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at what point during my post did I indicate I know it all?
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Your smart ass reply above is where..
and, this site is NOT for noobies to break in their teeth on development
I don't care if you agree or not; if you feel you want to answer his questions, then do itl otherwise STFU..

I'm buying this phone today. Coming from a NS4G. Now, I'm no noob when it comes to rooting/flashing/modding...however...the development for this device and the way you have to go about doing things with it are waaaaaay different. And I will agree with OP: it is confusing reading through some of this stuff, even for people with experience. But I also agree with some of the others: don't root or go beyond that until you have a good understanding of what you are doing.
As XDA has been very good to me I can say that the Nexus crowd is way more helpful to noobs, apparently.
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HareyCarey said:
I'm buying this phone today. Coming from a NS4G. Now, I'm no noob when it comes to rooting/flashing/modding...however...the development for this device and the way you have to go about doing things with it are waaaaaay different. And I will agree with OP: it is confusing reading through some of this stuff, even for people with experience. But I also agree with some of the others: don't root or go beyond that until you have a good understanding of what you are doing.
As XDA has been very good to me I can say that the Nexus crowd is way more helpful to noobs, apparently.
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its really only different if you are flashing LEAKED, non official roms..
The problem is that too many noobs with no idea what they are doing, don't want to spend anytime learning what they are doing, and hear about these ics roms, and just gotta have them..Then, they start flashing crap that they have no idea about, brick their phones, they post stuff all over the place, begging for someone to rescue them RIGHT NOW...
Its like getting behind the wheel of a car, with out taking drivers ed, or practicing, only bad things are going to happen if you do that..
There are tons of helpful folks here, with hundreds of "thanks", and thousands of posts, so obviously, there is a ton of cooperation and help going on here..
It just gets old, really fast, when 20 people ask the same question about a leaked, not even beta rom; and, to make it worse, the answer is usually a few posts ahead of theirs, or in the OP..
Too many people feel this sense of entitlement here lately, and, for those of us who are always helping, always offering our assistance, it gets pretty old sometimes..
Obviously, you know what YOU are doing, and, you at least took the time to get a basic understanding of your phone..plus, you've obviously read through these threads, and realize that it is a bit different to flash stuff on this phone.
Thats more than quite a few of the noobs here have taken the time to do..

Some people rely on others before they rely on their selves. That isn't always so bad, but I know it gets old. I probably won't mess with my Galaxy until I find exactly the ROM I want with everything working and I understand Odin a little better...the NS4G was sooooo simple...it's like they were begging you to root it. It was like get fastboot and adb then type a few things and boom, it's done. This is a bit more complicated and there isn't just a recovery you flash and leave on your phone to flash everything else(as far as I know)
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HareyCarey said:
Some people rely on others before they rely on their selves. That isn't always so bad, but I know it gets old. I probably won't mess with my Galaxy until I find exactly the ROM I want with everything working and I understand Odin a little better...the NS4G was sooooo simple...it's like they were begging you to root it. It was like get fastboot and adb then type a few things and boom, it's done. This is a bit more complicated and there isn't just a recovery you flash and leave on your phone to flash everything else(as far as I know)
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well, actually there is; there are actually 2 different ones, depending if you are using a "released, el29" type of rom, or one of the "leaked" ICS type roms..
The conventional roms all have recoveries baked into them, so its simple to go into recovery, and flash other stuff
the ICS leaks are different than that, and can be a pain to flash back and forth
My friends with Nexus phones all agree with you on how much easier it is to flash stuff on their phones; I guess its all in what you get used to!
You'll love this phone, that I guarantee you!

wase4711 said:
Your smart ass reply above is where..
and, this site is NOT for noobies to break in their teeth on development
I don't care if you agree or not; if you feel you want to answer his questions, then do itl otherwise STFU..
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I believe you started with the smart ass remarks to the op.
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STFU..
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take your own advice if you have nothing to contribute.
PS. This site is also not for TOOLS...explain yourself!

good luck getting help from anyone here,
adding you to my douchebag list...

VoX_XDA said:
I'm still new to this device. I'm having issues figuring out which kernels go to which version of GB and ICS.
Which Kernels will work on EL29 only?
Which ones will work on ICS and GB (EL29)
Why are kernels and Recovery mixed together? Why not make it simple to understand and locate?
EL29 Kernel ver 1.3.3 GB only - Example. Now I know I can't use this on ICS, only version EL29 of GB. Oh and it's a Kernel.
Not a recoveryIcsv13.3..3.3kerneldotninerwtfz0rz.tar.zip. That makes it confusing.
Anyone able to offer any clarity or an decoder ring so that I may understand this better?
If want to try a new kernel for EL29 GB, I can't because I have not farking clue if I'm getting one with a recovery, if it's GB or ICS only etc.
If I want to try an ICS kernel, but use it on GB, I'm lost because I thought they weren't compatible but people are apparently doing it.
Also, recoveries. "Don't use hitman" seems to be the theme. Along with Touch CWM being another issue.
Rogue Recovery is hitman? or hitman is hitman?
While this phone is superior to the Evo3D, at least the development wasn't a greek VCR manual from 1928.
Zzzz
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sfhub said:
All the stock and stock repacked GB kernels can be mix/matched between the different stock GB releases. They will NOT boot for an ICS ROM.
All the stock and stock repacked ICS kernels can be mix/matched between the different stock ICS releases. They will NOT boot for a GB ROM.
By "work" I mean they boot and data works. Beyond that, you'd have to experiment to see if what you care about works to your expectations. In general things will work, but I obviously don't test everything, and the combination Samsung/Sprint tests is matched kernels and ROMs.
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Rogue Recovery is the recovery made and used by Team Rogue. Hitman Kernel is a kernel that Team Rogue put out with CWM Touch. That kernel is perfectly fine to use with any GB rom. The big issue is using Rom Manager and flashing a recovery from there, thats a big nono unless you like bricks.
Most kernel threads (i believe all of them actually) state wether they are Gingerbread or Ice Cream Sandwich, either in the title or within the first 3 posts.
Like everyone says, read. True true read and you'll learn but how much he learn if all he reads is "READ NOOB"? I dont know everything but if you have questions feel free to pm me and I'll try to help you as best I can.
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steindog99 said:
+1 This is a dev website. Go over to Android central or rootzwiki if you have questions like this...and ask for Bubby (sorry i couldn't resist...lol)
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This is a community website, you don't have to be a dev to be on here or to mod your phone. How many members actually contribute by developing? 8%? That being said, you really do have to put in the reading/learning time. When you know what you're doing then you can ask specific questions for help that can be answered. Just my 2cents

Im just gonna say even for experienced modders/devs who have been doing this for a while (4+ years for me) this phone is quite confusing at first, i started hacking palm, treo family then pre, then moved to android with an intercrap i mean intercept, then the og evo, and now the et4g and the first day i was in this forum i was scratching my head like a lost kid looking at a chinese subway map. the setup of this phone in particular and the "codenames" are wayyyyyy different than the evo so i was lost for a few hours til i read thru a few ops and familiarized myself with all the new terms, but then again i have years of experince with phone modding and 2 decades experience with linux and windows coding and it was still like my first day of latin class with this phone having had a samsung device previously(intercept) did help with odin and such as it was similar to louziffers hacked swupdater for the intercept but if i was coming strictly from the evo i think id still be lost trying to root this phone
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[Q] Best kernel for cm 7

im sure this has been posted a thousand fold, but i wanted to post one for the personalization of it. What would you say its the best overall kernel for cm7.2. im about to have a crack at using tiamat with it since it was my personal fav on my incredible. any suggestions?

I like aeroevans 8bfs kernel. His 8 cfs is good too but idk the difference really. His ics v9 kernel supposedly works with gingerbread but I haven't tried it

The v9 kernel works really well with cm7. I would really recommend using it. Battery life is much improved.

SynysterSilence said:
im sure this has been posted a thousand fold, but i wanted to post one for the personalization of it. What would you say its the best overall kernel for cm7.2. im about to have a crack at using tiamat with it since it was my personal fav on my incredible. any suggestions?
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If you are sure its been asked, why didn't you search for it. Then the next thing is, test for yourself. Every phone responds different. I'm using AOKP with aeros newest kernel and my phone is flipping amazing, but my wife has lockups and a whole lot of other crap wrong.. it also depends on your governer and use that you do with it. Seriously, this is just another pointless thread that could've been in one of the already open ones...
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If you are sure its been asked, why didn't you search for it. Then the next thing is, test for yourself. Every phone responds different. I'm using AOKP with aeros newest kernel and my phone is flipping amazing, but my wife has lockups and a whole lot of other crap wrong.. it also depends on your governer and use that you do with it. Seriously, this is just another pointless thread that could've been in one of the already open ones...
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I Dont understand what the problem is. He posted in the correct section, was polite and simply asked for our opinions. Kernels do change, with updates and whatnot while others get left behind. simply searching and grave digging an old thread doesnt really change anything. Just dont want this place to become a thread-prison.
As for the kernels, tiamat hasnt been updated for our phone in ages, a lot of stuff has changed for GB since their last update. JDK kernel is in the same boat. This leaves the various versions of Aero's kernel essentially, i'd go with .8bfs or the v9 ics kernel, which i'm currently using with no problems.

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I Dont understand what the problem is. He posted in the correct section, was polite and simply asked for our opinions. Kernels do change, with updates and whatnot while others get left behind. simply searching and grave digging an old thread doesnt really change anything. Just dont want this place to become a thread-prison.
As for the kernels, tiamat hasnt been updated for our phone in ages, a lot of stuff has changed for GB since their last update. JDK kernel is in the same boat. This leaves the various versions of Aero's kernel essentially, i'd go with .8bfs or the v9 ics kernel, which i'm currently using with no problems.
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thank you if youre not gonna help then dont post. its people like that thats made alot of great devs leave xda cause of the trollers.
anyways thanks for all the tips ill try em all out. im currently testing out some sense kernels for great battery life any suggestions there?

I fully agree. When you get a new device you are not sure what is old and what are outdated mods and what is the newest thing sometimes. I agree we should search first. But I have had times where I search and google and still no answers. Then when I finally post a question there is usually someone making a refference about another kitty being killed. I came from the Droid X2 which the phone was crap and Motorola sucks A$$ for locking the phones down. However that forum was very friendly and eager to help out noobs. I do understand some of the questions asked are a little crazy and you can tell they did not search. But if you are pissed about someone posting just ignore it and let some other helpful person respond. And if they post in the wrong section the MR Highway will come get them!! He is awesome at that! Keep up the great work Mr Highway. Sorry just my .02 cents. Also as the noobs learn they help out other noobs and hopefully you respected devs can ignore these simple questions. The DX2 was my first phone and I had no idea what I was doing. With the help of the DX2 community I got up to speed and was able to help others. Look at my thanks count. One noob helping another. I asked plenty of questions when I first came on here had some helpful feedback and some smart remarks. Well needless to say I am now comfortable with flashing Roms,Kernel,radio and moving back and forth from AOSP,Sense, and ICS and I found all the fixes and work around ICS by reading the threads and not asking questions here. Just some food for thought.

SynysterSilence said:
thank you if youre not gonna help then dont post. its people like that thats made alot of great devs leave xda cause of the trollers.
anyways thanks for all the tips ill try em all out. im currently testing out some sense kernels for great battery life any suggestions there?
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Again, our phone lacks a large variety of kernels, however the few we have are solid (probably the reason we dont have 2000 of them xD)
The only kernel i've really used for sense is drellisdee's #21 kernel, it comes with all the usual cpu governors and is included in a lot of ext4 sense roms. It works on sense 2.1, 3.0 and 3.5 in my experience as well.
Hopefully that was of some help :s

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im sure this has been posted a thousand fold
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This is the Problem I have right here.. so he knows it was most likely posted over and over and just said f it I don't want to look.
Zax_Was_Here said:
I Dont understand what the problem is. He posted in the correct section, was polite and simply asked for our opinions.
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Yes, he did post this in the right section if it was just kernel and not ROM specific with CM7.2 why just question for AOSP or sense? And I wasn't rude in my response to him as far as him posting a question. I am irritated knowing that we have just recently had a lot of problems in this thread with people just simply asking questions they could've searched for and reposting the same thing 8,000,000 times (su, killall drmserver) ya that is familiar
Kernels do change, with updates and whatnot while others get left behind. simply searching and grave digging an old thread doesnt really change anything. Just dont want this place to become a thread-prison..
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Thank god our device doesn't have many different ones to look into. Its not like its hard again to search kernel and see what shows up.
SynysterSilence said:
its people like that thats made alot of great devs leave xda cause of the trollers
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Its lack of wanting to put in any time with search and asking the same exact questions over and over that makes DEV's leave.
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There were plenty of more posts to quote but I think I proved my point.
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Im locking this, before it goes south, an in my eyes, that's what it's looking like.

WOW So I can't

Post in the dev threads yet because I'm new.Smack in my face. I been here for on and off for years and now i register and cant post with devs until I have 10 post....LAME
Anyways Im going to give Holy grail Rom a try. i was using Jelly Bomb but it seems bloated to me and all that blue is kinda of unnecessary. It may the best for 12 year old kids but not me, either way it is a awesome rom

I'm kind of in the same boat. I've been trolling forever and now have an issue updating to the latest ROMs and can't actually post in the proper place until I make 10 posts about things I don't care about.
Thanks for giving me a reason to post!
In case anyone can answer my question before I get to 10 posts....I've been using Jelly Bomb for some time now and have never had any problems installing the latest ROM. However when I try to install the latest 14.0 version I get stuck on the Samsung boot screen. I cleared everything, reset everything. Only thing I can do is get back in and restore my backup. I tried a different ROM with the newest additions (multiview and whatnot) and the same thing happened. Any thoughts on why I can't get my phone to load ROMs with the new stuff?
Thanks!

Humm I dont know about that one. hopefully someone else can help

Saculmit said:
I'm kind of in the same boat. I've been trolling forever and now have an issue updating to the latest ROMs and can't actually post in the proper place until I make 10 posts about things I don't care about.
Thanks for giving me a reason to post!
In case anyone can answer my question before I get to 10 posts....I've been using Jelly Bomb for some time now and have never had any problems installing the latest ROM. However when I try to install the latest 14.0 version I get stuck on the Samsung boot screen. I cleared everything, reset everything. Only thing I can do is get back in and restore my backup. I tried a different ROM with the newest additions (multiview and whatnot) and the same thing happened. Any thoughts on why I can't get my phone to load ROMs with the new stuff?
Thanks!
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Did you do a clean install and if so what/how did you do it. Did you check the md5 sum? How did you download the ROM? On your phone? On a computer then transfer it over etc. The more info the better.
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GiantJay said:
Did you do a clean install and if so what/how did you do it. Did you check the md5 sum? How did you download the ROM? On your phone? On a computer then transfer it over etc. The more info the better.
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I'm thinking bad dl
To the OP, we all had to go through it and best thing to do if you don't like a devs work is to not use it, plus you can always look for a theme if colors an issue, no need to bash any devs, they bust arse so we can use their work.....just saying :good:

10 post rule is to protect developers from spammers and new members who do not know the proper place or what to post.
Specifically that now questions are being asked here in General after the initial "gripe."
So this is being moved to Q&A where ALL questions should go, not a general thread to make your 10 posts to hound a dev
You will get quicker and more considerate answers in Q&A, especially if you did not search the ROM thread before asking
Thank you
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Haha I'm stuck on the 10 post rule too! I was trying to post about the xplod rom but nope. I've been on here for 4 years but never really posted til lately.
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derrtydunk said:
Haha I'm stuck on the 10 post rule too! I was trying to post about the xplod rom but nope. I've been on here for 4 years but never really posted til lately.
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Only 5 more posts

All that trolling and you never noticed a single post about the 10 post rule?? lol

HipKat said:
All that trolling and you never noticed a single post about the 10 post rule?? lol
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Not really trolling, more like lurking.
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I'm just gonna go ahead and call BS on those whiners who are stuck with <10 posts. I'm qualified to do so since I was recently one of them. The truth is if you are not at least somewhat interested in phone tech, (even if it's just for your model of phone), you should not be rooting and romming. I say that because if you want root or a custom rom on your phone, you should at the very least, have spent time reading about it. Not for 15 minutes or 1/2 hour but several hours. If you realize while reading about it, that the subject matter just can't hold your attention, then you probably shouldn't be playing around with your phones software in the first place, and you definitely shouldn't be rooting your phone . Before rooting and installing a rom, you should have a pretty good idea why you want a rooted phone and custom rom in the first place, and "just because" doesn't cut it. If you want to do it just because you can, good luck with that.
But if you're really interested in the tech stuff about your phone, then you'll probably spend some free time perusing these pages and you should have no problem finding 10 things to either ask a question about, or offer a helpful comment or advice to someone needing it.

I actually think its fair, the 10 post rule.. i even felt bad that ive been using these forum for so many years and i dont even have 10 posts under my name. I necer really needed to because i always found what im looking for in past threads but when i wanted to thank a dev for his great work, i couldnt post :/
Anyway were you able to download the new roms? Ive read that people often have problems depending on the method used to download the rom and flashing it.. also you can try to do the wiping process after you install the rom also..hope you get to enjoy these new features soon pal.
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