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Hey guys Im running LeeDroid rom.
I wanted to get a2sd to work, so I partitioned my SD via Rom manager with 512mb EXT3/0 swap
I titanium backuped all my apps/data. Transfered the folder to my deskop then did
the partition part via ROm Manager. When that was done I batch > restore apps and data.
My internal memory on the phone still says 30mb available ?
SD & phone storage is as follows:
SD:
Total space: 6.92 GB
Avail Space: 6.90GB
Internal Phone Storage: 34.25MB
Did I do something wrong ? How I know if my apps are on my SD card? Also if they are am I suppose to have more Internal Phone Storage?
Update: Under manage Apps > On SD card .... There is no apps what so ever there so must of done something wrong :S
Thanks !
how many apps do you have? with apps2sd it still uses some internal memory and some cache so internal memory will drop
According to titanium I have 22 user apps 148 data. But like I said under manage apps,on SD there is nothing. So prob did something wrong. How can I check if my SD is partitioned properly with a 512mb. Or even if a2sd is working.
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22 apps seems like internal memory is being used and not apps2sd
heres how to check if its working
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677073
it can be done using connectbot app from market
open connectbot and use local
then type
su
ls -l /data
this should list the top 2 items as:
lrwxrwxrwx root root 2010-04-28 22:54 app-private -> /system/sd/app-private
lrwxrwxrwx root root 2010-04-28 22:54 app -> /system/sd/app
ls -l /system/sd/app (will list apps on installed to your SD Card)
Awesome found my problem lol. I didn't have a2sd installed. I assumed it came with the Rom,just read and its optional and must be flashed.
Now is there a away to see if I partitioned correctly with a ext3?
Also do I back up apps and data or just apps.
Also how do I put my davlik cache on my SD or just put the apps.
Sorry first time doing all this LOL.
Thx for the help.
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So I installed a2sd.
Now my available internal phone memory is 125MB ... Is this right ?
Also under applications> manage apps> on SD nothing shows there is this normal ?
I thought that I would show all the apps.
Pretty sure its all installed properly. Because yesterday there was only 30mb of interal storage.
Just wanted to confirm if I should see apps under "on SD" in manage apps.
thanks
aCx85 said:
Hey guys Im running LeeDroid rom.
I wanted to get a2sd to work, so I partitioned my SD via Rom manager with 512mb EXT3/0 swap
I titanium backuped all my apps/data. Transfered the folder to my deskop then did
the partition part via ROm Manager. When that was done I batch > restore apps and data.
My internal memory on the phone still says 30mb available ?
SD & phone storage is as follows:
SD:
Total space: 6.92 GB
Avail Space: 6.90GB
Internal Phone Storage: 34.25MB
Did I do something wrong ? How I know if my apps are on my SD card? Also if they are am I suppose to have more Internal Phone Storage?
Update: Under manage Apps > On SD card .... There is no apps what so ever there so must of done something wrong :S
Thanks !
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Your big mistake in my opinion was when you restored the Titanium backup. This not only restores apps (to their original location!) but also restores system data, some of which may not be compatible with Froyo and A2SD+
I recommend you do a factory reset/full-wipe including davlik cache, then check free memory at next reboot (before restoring anything).
With EXT3 and A2SD+, you should have 130MB+ free in phone memory.
If you get 130MB+ free, then don't restore the backup this time, but instead re-install all apps from the market manually.
Assume you have an 8GB SD card? The fact you have 6.92GB free on SD and not 7.5GB, suggests your 512MB ext3 partition is there, and probably working fine.
Sounds right as most people are getting 135mb after a fresh install with that rom.
Also try Quick System Info and in there it will give you a reading of the A2SD+ memory being used.
I think the way A2SD+ works is to trick the phone (with shortcuts to the programs on SD) into thinking its on the internal memory so maybe that's why they don't show up as installed on SD.
So, you are thinking 'not again the *** apps2sd n00b question', but here I am
I did some research on XDA and the rest of the internet though, but nobody seems to have this problem.
I have a rooted Desire with DeFrost 6.0. With it, it is very easy to install your apps on the SD-card. I have only 8 apps on the ROM itself, but those are widgets and apps with notifications like Facebook (notifications don't work if they are installed on de sd-card is my experience).
The rest of my applications are installed on the sd-card (around 80 apps). But the problem is that all apps also have a piece of dalvikCache on the ROM as well. You all know that of course. For instance, I installed Documents To Go (5MB) on the sd-card. It also has 5MB dalvikCache on the ROM, so thats double the price .
Now if people ask here 'is it safe to move the cache to the sd-card', most of you say 'unless you want to show off how much empty space you have on your phone, I would just keep it on the phone'. But I do not have any free space.
With DiskUsage I can see that I have around 150 MB of data: 26MB system data, 15MB free space (and he is already nagging the telephone is running out of space), and more than 100MB of applications, with most of it is dalvikCache.
So is this normal? Is 80 apps really the max you can have?
My biggets app is by the way Documents To Go (5MB), and I had to delete it. So I don't have very big apps.
Just want to know how much apps you guys have
Thanks.
How have you forced the Dalvik Cache to stay on the phone memory and why/how have you copied your widgets on your phone memory?
PS: Do you use an EXT3 Partition or the Froyo legacy A2SD?
It's not unusual to move dalvik cache as well as the app. You will need root though, and then just partition your sd-card and install a rom with a2sd+. The only /data/data will take up space on the phone.
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How have you forced the Dalvik Cache to stay on the phone memory and why/how have you copied your widgets on your phone memory?
PS: Do you use an EXT3 Partition or the Froyo legacy A2SD?
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I didn't do anything to force the cache to stay on de phone. But it's normal the dalvikCache is on the phone memory right?
I use defrost 6.0 and in it you can go to settings > applications > manage applicatons, an you can move all your apps to the sd-card. I'm not sure what kind of A2SD that is.
I move any applications with widgets to my phone memory, because otherwise widgets don't work anymore if you reboot your phone.
@mortenmhp: But also a lot of people do not recommend to move the dalvikcache. Is it safe to do?
you're confusing a few things:
APPS2SD:
There are two methods used at the moment.
The Froyo method, made by Google, which you use at the moment. It installs the app on the phone memory and is able to outsource a small amount of data to the FAT32 partition on your SD-card. It does create failures with apps that use widgets or run in the background.
The A2SD+ method, integrated in DeFroST and almost every other custom ROM. You have to create an EXT3 partition on your SD card (use ROM manager for this) and then reflash the rom. After that it gets activated automatically. All apps and also the dalvik cache gets moved on the EXT3 partition on your SD card. You don't have to and you shouldn't move any apps around afterwards with the Froyo A2SD described above. Only some small data gets stored by the apps itself on the internal phone memory.
Moving the dalvik cache is safe. Maybe you confuse it with SWAP? Which isn't necessary on the HTC Desire.
ok, this is a little confusing
I'm running defrost
let's suppose that I installed the firefox app.
the diskusage tool tells me that it takes 13,4 MB in internal memory.
in applications settings, I have the option to move the app to sd card.
When I do this, my available memory does not change (102 mb)
Does that mean that firefox was already on the sd card ?
In that case how do I know what eats up my data storage ?
Thanks for precisions ?
Do you use A2SD+ together with an EXT3 partition.
If so, every app you install will get installed on the EXT3 partition on your SD-card together with the Dalvik cache, instead of your internal phone memory. If you move this app with the Froyo A2SD tool to the SD card then you'll move the app from the EXT3 partition to your FAT32 partition, stupid.
However, every app, while running, creates some temporary data files. Those files remain on the internal phone memory. And maybe Firefox mobile creates some huge data files, but the main app is installed on the EXT3 partition, now, because you moved it with Froyo A2SD, a small part is installed on the EXT3 partition and some part, the moved on the FAT32 partition. The created data remains untouched.
I had 106 MB free internal memory. Then I installed Firefox and still had 106MB free. I started Firefox, 103 MB free.
Diskusage tells me Firefox needs 2.81MB internal memory. 2.81MB of this is data.
In the Android app settings android tells me Firefox occupies 16.19 MB, 13.38 MB for the app, 2.81 MB data.
So those 13.38 MB are located on the EXT3 partition. If I move Firefox now, parts of the 13.38 MB get moved from the SD card to the SD card.
Ah, I get it now. Thank you very much. I did everything you said, so it should be ok now. So there is no need anymore to move apps, with widgets for instance, to the memory of the phone?
Thanks!
If you use app2sd with the ext partition now, then no, you don't have to move any app or widget around, and you shouldn't.
With Quick System Info you can check how much free space is left on your ext partition.
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Hello everyone, I've got a problem with APP2SD on my Leedroid ROM.
The problem is that some application, now, are installed in the SD card while some others in the Internal Memory Storage. (Maybe because I installed some apps while connected to the PC???).
Quick System Info says:
- A2SD: 116Mb of 457Mb Free
- Internal Mem: 8Mb of 148Mb Free.
In adb I see that:
- /system/app contains only the default stock apps.
- Most of the apps are in /data/app and the same apps are in /system/sd/app (symbolic Link?)..
But I cannot find where are the other 140Mb of Apps in the Internal Memory as shown in QuickSystemInfo.
Can you help me to figure it out?
Thanks in advance!
Hurizen said:
Hello everyone, I've got a problem with APP2SD on my Leedroid ROM.
The problem is that some application now are installed on SD card, and some on Internal Memory Storage. (Maybe because I installed some apps while connected to the PC???).
Quick System Info says:
A2SD: 116Mb of 457Mb Free
Internal Mem: 8Mb of 148Mb Free.
In adb I see that:
- /system/app contains only the default stock apps.
- Most of the apps are in /data/app and the same apps are in /system/sd/app (symbolic Link?)..
But I cannot find where are the other apps 140Mb of Apps in the Internal Memory as shown in QuickSystemInfo.
Can you help me to figure it out?
Thanks in advance!
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I'm having the same problem and the low memory notification pisses me off every time but i deleted some app's data and its gone, although i only have around 16mb free space in the internal storage
Hurizen said:
Hello everyone, I've got a problem with APP2SD on my Leedroid ROM.
The problem is that some application now are installed on SD card, and some on Internal Memory Storage. (Maybe because I installed some apps while connected to the PC???).
Quick System Info says:
A2SD: 116Mb of 457Mb Free
Internal Mem: 8Mb of 148Mb Free.
In adb I see that:
- /system/app contains only the default stock apps.
- Most of the apps are in /data/app and the same apps are in /system/sd/app (symbolic Link?)..
But I cannot find where are the other apps 140Mb of Apps in the Internal Memory as shown in QuickSystemInfo.
Can you help me to figure it out?
Thanks in advance!
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ok for starters /data/app/ and /system/sd/app/ are the same folder, the apps2sd script has created a symlink between the 2 folders. fyi /system/sd/app/, /system/sd/app-private/ and /system/sd/dalvik-cache, is your ext partition, now there is nothing wrong with the apps2sd on your rom, you are seeing your internal storage decrease because although apps2sd moves /data/app/ to your sd ext, /data/data/ remains on the nand (internal storage) this directory holds all your settings and app data, some apps use up more space in /data/data/ than others, thats why with some apps, your internal storage will stay the same, but others will takes space off it,
It's normal certainly.
YOur 140 Mb probably used for data (application settings and data, application cache)because not all developpers save it on your sd card but in your internal storage too.
Use the app "Quick System Info" (available on the market) and sort your app by application data size.You could see where is your 140 missing data.
Do not forget = > app2sd if for the apk storageONLY and not the application settings or cache (symlink only on /data/app and not on /data/data, did you see the difference ?).
Good luck for your stuff
elfabio said:
It's normal certainly.
Your 140 Mb probably used for data
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You got it!!! Thanks!... But.. Now?
It's there a way to move this data somewhere else?
Thanks everyone!
Hurizen said:
You got it!!! Thanks!... But.. Now?
It's there a way to move this data somewhere else?
Thanks everyone!
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Sure there is a solution
try this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=852219
sibere said:
Sure there is a solution
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Thanks Man!
i also flashed Lee's rom, I have check by using sys info. apps2d has 45Xmb, and 35X mb available, while some apps cannot move the sd card, is my apps2sd functioning properly? how to check? thx~~~~
Hi and thank you for your patience
When I enter the "Quick system info" app I see that I have several storages.
Can someone please explain what are the uses for the following 2 storages?
System storage - I have 68MB free out of 250. Is t normal ?
Internal storage – 129 MB free out of 148.
Another question.
When I enter the "Processes" tab I see that every process take about 20MB is it ok ?
First of all why would you ask if it's normal? Doesn't it seem that your phone has problems, does it run crappy?
The system partition is the partition on which your system is installed and if you are not S-off can only be accessed in recovery.
The internal memory is the data partition, that is where all the apps are installed.
I don't know about the required free space on system, but if you did not remove any pre installed apps just leave it, it's fine. If you did remove pre installed apps you can move some apps form /data/app to system/app to save some space on the internal memory, but in your case that isn't necessary because you still have 129 Mb free.
About the processes, it's all fine except if you experience heavy lag, than you might need a task killer and use it every once in a while.
Hi there, a bit newbie to the Wildfire S that I bought to my girlfriend. I pretty familiar with CM7 for my HTC Aria, but not with stock roms.
The Wildfire S is rooted and runs a stock ROM with Hebrew support. that's the way is was bought from the store.
We've only installed gmail and maybe another app, and you are left with only 30MB of space? is that the way HTC designed this phone?
I want to increase the phone memory and use the SD-card. If I create a SD-ext of 1GB, what is the best method to move apps and cache to the card?
link2sd
thx for the quick response.
does link2sd allows for dalvik cache moving?
after installing link2sd is internal is the SD-ext (like in Cyanogen) or it's the internal phone memory?
also, if I have a rooted phone can I remove some of the sense apps?
Just do factory reset first, then you'll have about 150mb of memory free.
And yes, you can delete system apps if you are rooted.But be aware not to delete some important apps which can cause your phone not to fuction properly.
As for the extra memory, I would recommend link2sd, I'm using it, and I have 100 apps installed.
You could also use data2sd, but you need sdcard class 4+ for that, in order for it not to lag too much.
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CaptainMaki said:
also, if I have a rooted phone can I remove some of the sense apps?
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Nightshadow931 said:
And yes, you can delete system apps if you are rooted.But be aware not to delete some important apps which can cause your phone not to fuction properly.
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correct, deleting system apps is possible if rooted
however these are on the system partition, so will not increase phone memory.
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does link2sd allows for dalvik cache moving?
after installing link2sd is internal is the SD-ext (like in Cyanogen) or it's the internal phone memory?
also, if I have a rooted phone can I remove some of the sense apps?[/QUOTE]
your internal phone memory still 150M，but apps can move to sdcard，I think the best way is data2sd .
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Just do factory reset first, then you'll have about 150mb of memory free.
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I've already did a factory reset once and I didn't got 150MB of free internal memory it was much lower, that's why I was puzzled to see how quick the memory disappeared. If I had 150MB free I wouldn't have any problem cause I don't need too many apps on this phone.
Is it better to create sd-ext with ROM manager and than use link2sd?
after root I recommend SystemCleanup APP to update factory default Google apps in system (save over 40Mb of space). It's easier than link2sd
seems like a great app, tried it on my phone not the wildfire and had a few FC. but eventually managed to do everything.
No problem on the wildfire stock ROM? phone is rooted.
I'm using link2sd on a rooted stock ROM. No problems, works great, 30MB internal free, tens of apps installed/linked to the SD Card.
@trevike:
do you remember how much internal free space you had before using link2sd?
no problem whatsoever, just DO NOT move to system updated HTC apps (for example Clock widget). Those will stop working. FC for moved Google apps are normal until you reboot the phone.
I don't intended to do so. Just wondering if there is still something left on the phone or that's' what's left with Stock ROM installed.
If I remember correctly, I used to have 4x MB.
120MB, well I should check it in depth.
I just did a factory reset and wiped data completely. I've only got 62.6MB free in my data folder.
SD Maid tell me that (used/total)
system folder 199/269
internal data 87/150
any ideas how to check what's clogging the data folder?
CaptainMaki said:
I just did a factory reset and wiped data completely. I've only got 62.6MB free in my data folder.
SD Maid tell me that (used/total)
system folder 199/269
internal data 87/150
any ideas how to check what's clogging the data folder?
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bit strange that you have so much space used after factory reset
i find 'diskusage' app very useful to visually see what it is taking up space in each partition.
if I'm using this correctly, then on the data folder the dalvik cache is in charge for about 74 MB. that's after factory reset and 5 apps installed.
If it is rooted then install Link 2 SD. Delete some useless system apps and move apps like facebook, youtube etc to SD card..
If you're on stock rom rooted, link2sd is better than remove some stock apps.
If you're on custom rom or stock rom with custom kernel support init.d, you can use DT Apps2sd to move dalvik-cache. I think its better than link2sd.
Or/and if you have sdcard class 10, you might use data2sd.
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