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Well I am interested in developing an app but would like to gauge some interest. Here are the details of the app:
1. App will take advantage of built in light sensors to read your lights lummens output.
2. App will have a nutrient calculator based on (advanced Nutrients, Canna, Dutch Masters, and General Hydroponics)
3. App will also include nutrient charts for all the companies.
4. App will include a DB of pictures with descriptions of different plant diseases and deficiencies.
I have more ideas as well as in how to optimize air flow for your room and much more also will include for outdoor growing as well.
If your interested in seeing an app like this for our winmo phones let me know through this thread and i will post updates and beta versions once they are ready if there is enough interest in something like this.
Sounds nice. Good luck.
seems good,
later i will be doing some project may be i can seek you help then
It seems nice
can be useful
All the best
it is coming along. right now the strain app supports WVGA 480 x 800 resolution. follow my progress in the thread in my sig. I should be about a week away for the MJ's Strain Guide beta. all that is posted right now is an alpha so you get a feel for the UI. Still a lot to do.
Sounds good! Being completely crap at maintaining plants this seems quite useful
I know what you mean. I hope this app helps guide people but when it comes down to it a major factor in your outcome is the genetics. bad genetics of a good strain will give you bad results. i am attaching here a alpha version of my strain app. its also located in the HD2 app section. im not sure it will work on other phones as i have a hd2 right now. I due plan to port to other resolutions and sizes after completion. It will be easier as its just resizing of what i have done. I am also bringing in some friend to port the app to android and iphone/ipad and to make a windows pc based version. if anyone has suggestions or think they can help in anyway let me know. i can always use the help.
PS:
This is the 4th app i have ever made in my life.
Notes:
when app is installed and launched you will get pop up menus. These are due to the controls. Currently they are trail controls. I am sending a payment to get the full license to that will be removed by beta.
currently all list are populated but no data is inputted so when you try to launch a strain in kinetic scrolling it will do nothing. Only one works right now. It is located in Sativa Strains List. It is Cannalope Haze. Let me know what you think of how the data is displayed. If you install this on WVGA device 480x800 it should work so HD2/TP2 should look perfect. Let me know what device you have it installed on and your screen fitment issue only if its WVGA. QVGA and WQVGA are not supported.
enjoy!!
Update:
I have attached a newer version it is the latest i have made so far. I have updated the indica and sativa list and updated how the data is displayed for cannalope haze. The way the cab is made is different so now it will ask if you want to install on sd or phone. I also finally added an icon for the app. i still have a long way to go but i hope you like where its going.
Guys,
Had a search but couldn't find anything, so unsure if this has already been discussed.
If so I apologies in advance to the original poster.
The Question:
On the Samsung Galaxy S web site advertisement it shows a 'Morning' or 'Home' screen with several icons and a large clock.
Also there is then the 'Driving' screen which again shows several icons relating to applications you will want to see and use whilst getting to work.
Finally at the end of the evening we have a 'TV Remote Control' to take over the television.
Have I missed something but I can't find any of these available?
Thanks in advance for any news.
Are these not apps that will be available from the Samsung Store / Market when it launches?
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Are these not apps that will be available from the Samsung Store / Market when it launches?
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Well if that is the case then why are we not seeing them?
The Galaxy S has now been out since the 4th June and you would have thought if they showed these Apps runnning at their shows we would now be seeing them live on our very own screens.
Beards sorry to say that Samsung is like that... when i bought my Samsung Omnia II, there were apps that were inlcuded with the phone etc when they were presenting it.. then when i got the unit it didnt have them.. also i wouldnt rely too much on the Samsung App store, its useless.. The Windows Mobile Version was really crap too...
Thanks...
Although I am loving the phone I can't say the same for Samsung.
They even got the battery type wrong in the end.... or simply changed it from being a Li-Pol to a Li-Ion ~ which I've posted on in another topic).
Annoyed by this as well, was sold on the phone partly on things like the remote control app as I have a Samsung TV and the remote for it is absolutely terrible.
Will probably be worth emailing them en-masse to see if they have just delayed the app or hoped nobody would notice.
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Annoyed by this as well, was sold on the phone partly on things like the remote control app as I have a Samsung TV and the remote for it is absolutely terrible.
Will probably be worth emailing them en-masse to see if they have just delayed the app or hoped nobody would notice.
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I know and feel the same as you.
I too have one of the latest Samsung Series 8 TV's and was looking forward to having that remote (my Granddaughter manages often to sneakily get the TV Remote. The TV comes with two remotes ~ a large normal remote and a small ball like-shaped remote which my Wife has by her chair)
I will look for an appropriate email address when I get home from work, we should probably get as many people as we can with the SGS to email them and see what their reply is. Could probably throw in some "false advertising" talk and see if it calls their hand.
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I will look for an appropriate email address when I get home from work, we should probably get as many people as we can with the SGS to email them and see what their reply is. Could probably throw in some "false advertising" talk and see if it calls their hand.
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That will be geat..... Rather than all of us looking and finding different email addresses it will make sense to have one common address to hit.
I'm all for sending off messages to those that do not deliver as promised.
Let's be honest, if a certain fruit flavoured company did this, they would be looking at a swift invite to court.
are they not part of touch wiz and switched on when you use the home or car docks? Not sure about the tv remote - but i heard that only worked with 2010 samsung tv's anyway (via dlna?)
i believe there are some developer tools that let you fake various dock schemes on the android marketplace if oyu want to check.
Well for those of us in the UK this seems the best bet:
ars.samsung.com/customer/form/formmail/SEUK/input.jsp?SITE_ID=112&PROD_ID=79
Tachikoma_kun said:
Well for those of us in the UK this seems the best bet:
ars.samsung.com/customer/form/formmail/SEUK/input.jsp?SITE_ID=112&PROD_ID=79
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Thank you for this.
I was just about to start sending off a message when I decided to first go to the Samsung-Mobile UK web site and get the names of the morning alarm and car screens which showed the application icons.
Imagine my surprise when I find the movie they used to play that used to show these screens (including the TV Remote) have all disappeared.
Has anyone else noticed these items seemed to be have dropped from the Samsung sites?
Here's the UK one which used to show them.
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Okay, I dropped them off an email.
If anyone wishes to use/copy the one I sent please feel free to do so.
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am writing to you today in order that I may obtain information as to the whereabouts of various screens and applications that are missing from the previously shown video promotion for the Samung i9000 Galaxy S.
When the Samsung i9000 Galaxy S was first introduced it showed on various Samsung web sites a video promotion of the phone being run outlining various screen uses it would carry out throughout the course of the day.
The first of these screen uses were a 'Morning Screen' which showed the TIME in Landscape mode and had various morning applications.
Next we had the 'In Car Screen' where the i9000's screen had now changed with this time showing (again in Landscape mode) various applications laid out in a pattern that were associated with work/business.
Finally towards the end of the evening we had an 'Entertainment Screen', where one could sit back in front of their Samsung TV and use the i9000 as a TV Remote.
My question to you is ~ What has happened to these screens.
1. Why do we not see these screens and applications on our i9000 Galaxy S as previously advertised?
2. Why have these screens been dropped from the Samsung web site video promotion?
I purchased my Samsung i9000 Galaxy S in part based on the web video promotion and what was shown at the various Live Shows.
Now I find these screens and applications no longer advertised nor available on the i9000.
I look forward to your kind response.
Yours sincerely
Nicely put, I will use the same one, was a little tipsy last night so had to stop myself sending a message in case I said anything silly.
the remote is part of the allshare app - controlls your 2010 sammy tv via dlna. the other screens are dock specific - car and home dock respectively so i assume part of touchwiz.
a bit of googling is all you need to find this out.
julian2002 said:
the remote is part of the allshare app - controlls your 2010 sammy tv via dlna. the other screens are dock specific - car and home dock respectively so i assume part of touchwiz.
a bit of googling is all you need to find this out.
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Then why has Samsung removed all reference to this from the web site I gave earlier?
Also, ref the DLNA screen...... I don't get any remote showing for my Samsung Series 8 TV.
Well guys, I received a reply from Samsung.... and not one that I was wanting either.
Basically the department have washed their hands of the question and told me to go to 'Tech Supp'.
I've now fired another question to them asking why on earth this is a technical issue?
Below is the reply I received from Samsung:-
Dear Mr Paterson
Thank you for your email to Samsung Mobile Content UK regarding the I9000.
As your enquiry relates to a technical issue, you would need to contact our technical support team regarding this matter.
Please use the link below to submit your enquiry to the relevant department http://ars.samsung.com/customer/form/formmail/SEUK/input.jsp?SITE_ID=31&PROD_ID=954&AGE_ID=0 or by phone call 08456 7267864.
Please do not hesitate to contact us again by email on http://ars.samsung.com/customer/form/formmail/SEUK/input.jsp?SITE_ID=112&PROD_ID=79 or by phone on 0844 499 9992 option 3 between 0900 and 1700 Monday to Friday if you have any further queries for Samsung Mobile.
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Well, I've just sent a similar inquiry via the link provided asking about the missing features and whether I've been mis-sold the phone.
Thanks Mark.
As you and anyone else reading this will understand, the only way we are going to get answers is to voice our concerns and questions.
The more that ask the stronger our feelings should be felt.
The answer is probably simple and clear but to make it that way we have to ask Samsung to 'spell it out'.
... and I was given the same 'Go F... Yourself' response that you were....
I am so glad I returned my nook color and bought the elocity tab. I am having such fun playing with all the apps I've come to love on my galaxy vibrant and found a lot of new apps to play with. I recently updated the samsung to froyo which now allows wireless tethering. That is the best invention ever! I didn't even need to be in the same room as the samsung and it didn't lose the wireless connection on the elocity. I connected the elocity via hdmi to my hdtv and watched some online shows which was very cool. Discovering cool browsers like netfront has left me with about 5 browsers to choose from. I found a betterkeyboard.apk and shapewrite.apk and installed them both. I just like having options. Fun games like pinball, frogger, nintaii, etc makes the time fly by on my commute. I initially bought this to get back into reading via ebooks, but I've not read any of the free 70 books I've collected in the nook application.
There's not a lot of activity on this thread though. I guess that people are only posting when there's a problem. Oh well...happy surfin!
I like mine too. Thanks for listing that browser. I'll try it later.
I've been able to read so much more with the tablet. I returned the Nextbook 2 and 3 just before I bought this. I think this will suit my needs for a long time.
Perfect for reading and watching video.
nextbook
was hoping to find a fix to connect my next book via wireless router app on my sprint htc touch pro2.
I'm enjoying mine as well. I bought it mainly due to the HW specs and Android OS and it's been a pretty cool little gadget. I am still figuring out just how to configure things the way I like. And I'm still toying with the various browsers out there. I like the built in one but I've grown fond of Opera-mobile too. I gave Firefox mobile a test drive but it's not quite ready for prime time yet as they say.
I have a stand on order from Amazon and that'll make it easy on the hands while I read the news over breakfast each morning. It's really fun to see the new Dexter Mods as well. Seems like every other week a new flavor is ready. Pretty slick.
How did you manage to d/l & install the Nook app? On the B&N site it says the Nook for 'all' android devices is just for smartphones
Thanks.
Arlene in RI said:
How did you manage to d/l & install the Nook app? On the B&N site it says the Nook for 'all' android devices is just for smartphones
Thanks.
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If you are running dextermod its available in the market.
Dexter Mod???
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If you are running dextermod its available in the market.
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This is all new to me as of last Thursday when my Elocity A& arrived in the mail so please bear w/me and my probably annoying questions. So, what is dextermod and where/how do I get it???
When you say "it's available in the market" are you referring to the Nook app or dexter mod?
If I could get the Nook app on my Elocity then I think everything would be pretty perfect.
Thanks for all your help.
Arlene in RI
Arlene in RI said:
This is all new to me as of last Thursday when my Elocity A& arrived in the mail so please bear w/me and my probably annoying questions. So, what is dextermod and where/how do I get it???
When you say "it's available in the market" are you referring to the Nook app or dexter mod?
If I could get the Nook app on my Elocity then I think everything would be pretty perfect.
Thanks for all your help.
Arlene in RI
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dextormod can be found in the elocity a7 development section, and the direction on how to install, be sure to read thread before installing to understand everything.
Our devices do not come with android app market, so you can not download most android apps with out the market, for example the nook app, which is proved in dextersmod
Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890042
Just finished streaming dexter season 5 from my A7 to my panasonic 50" amazing picture I love my A7. I use it to watch shows at work during breaks play emulators with 360 controller. Couldn't ask for more out of a single device!
I do not have the mod, but, I do have the latest Nook app on my A7. I installed it on my Android phone, backed the app up to the SD card in my phone. Transferred the app from the phone to my tablet and installed it. Works great!
Since we have plenty of YouTube app alternatives in the marketplace now, I was just curious to see which one people preferred the most. Personally I really love LazyTube because I'm sort of a power user on YouTube myself.
As a Focus user, Supertube is my go to.
i dont use youtube on my phone...
ill stick with msn video and ustream
HTC YouTube Supports Account Login, comes from a company I'm certain will support it, supports HQ streaming, and is free.
So yea... I prefer that until Microsoft gets their better YouTube client out the door.
I use the HTC app both on my Focus and Arrive.
supertube supports account login now...I like my supertube
but where would I find the HTC youtube app for my focus
forgive my ignorance
Yeah I know SuperTube and HTC have login support, but the way subscriptions work on LazyWorm are better than those imo. In the HTC app all of my subscription videos show up out of order and there's no way to sort them by most recent.
TOA Duck said:
supertube supports account login now...I like my supertube
but where would I find the HTC youtube app for my focus
forgive my ignorance
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You can only get the HTC YouTube app if you have developer unlocked your phone either officially as a developer or with the ChevronWP7 hack. It will only work if you have a firmware before NoDo. If you want to know how to jailbreak, you can go here for the beginners' guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=938106
I'm not such a YouTube power user that I care that much about subscriptions or how they're sorted, and if that meant that much for me I'd just use my Vibrant. I carry it and my HD7 everywhere with me, anyways...
And even if I'd cut it off, I could still use it sort of like an iPod touch over WiFi
I don't see a point in paying for something like that, and I've already been burned by Board Express (Terrible Performance, etc.) and Birdsong (still haven't added a Live Tile, etc.). Don't think I'll ever buy another mobile app again, Lol.
I have an Omnia 7 so no HTC app for me. I like both SuperTube and Lazyworm but the latter is the better one overall (downloads are pointless as far as I'm concerned so no need for that). Lazyworm supports likes and HQ over 3G and links to the Zune hub, that's pretty cool.
One thing I will say though: the Lazyworm icon is damn ugly, specially when pinned to your main screen. It's like it was made by/for a kid and is in total contrast to the SuperTube icon which looks very nice.
Anyway, like someone else said I wish Microsoft could release a proper app already.
I couldn't care less about being able to log into my account on a Youtube app, but I what I have seem to work for different situations:
I have SuperTube for the HD videos (the quality on small screen is amazing), and for downloading some videos to watch on the commute.
I have RealTube for good streaming on 3G, and for other sites with video.
I use the LazyWord Youtube app just because the new version looks so pretty, and the UI is very well thought out.
I sideloaded the HTC 2.0 Youtube just to see what it's all about, and it is pretty good, but not my standard go to Youtube app.
And of course, the Youtube "enabler" from Microsoft.
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One thing I will say though: the Lazyworm icon is damn ugly, specially when pinned to your main screen.
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This I totally agree. The Lazyworm icon is really terrible .
Hope they can change it.
It's the only downside I find. I hope we can have a more sober icon, just the YouTube logo would be perfect (why this worm ? Why this brown color ? ).
Otherwise the UI of LazyWorm is very nice and it's my favorite YouTube app at the moment.
I really don't use the download function so SuperTube is ok but not so useful to me.
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This I totally agree. The Lazyworm icon is really terrible .
Hope they can change it.
It's the only downside I find. I hope we can have a more sober icon, just the YouTube logo would be perfect (why this worm ? Why this brown color ? ).
Otherwise the UI of LazyWorm is very nice and it's my favorite YouTube app at the moment.
I really don't use the download function so SuperTube is ok but not so useful to me.
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After people requested a new icon, they came up with that for the next release:
http://twitpic.com/4h688o
I know what you're thinking: What The F...?!
Currently just using the HTC Youtube app, or just via IE if I wanna find videos from users i subscribe to, might check out SuperTube.
Aww where is the love xda... sitting in last place !
Seriously though, great poll and it's very interesting seeing where we are falling short. We are in for the long haul and plan to continually improve on what we have so getting constructive feedback like this is EXACTLY what we are after.
I'm curious as to why people prefer the HTC app over our solution considering our free version supports more features and many have said sports a superior interface / experience?
We have been receiving several comments, suggestions and feedback from our users via ratings, emails, facebook and twitter. We will be releasing 2.1 very soon which should hopefully address some of these issues and include some awesome new features (so please stay tuned).
Thanks to those who are voting for us and for those who didn't we will strive to win you over next time!
Finally, I'll leave you guys to comment on our YouTube 2.1 (free) & LazyTube 2.1 (99c) tile icon concepts attached
Thank you for contributing to the thread. I'll go straight to the only 2 things I don't like about your app:
- I would like an option in settings to pick the light or dark theme independently of my actual phone theme.
- Your icon is too childish, sorry I can't find another way to put it. Smartphones are for adults and the cute worm doesn't cut it I'm afraid. I'd like something that looks good and cool like when SuperTube redesigned their icon. Even just the word Youtube with nothing else would be better.
Great work otherwise, I love the app and appreciate the fact that it remains free with no ads.
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Finally, I'll leave you guys to comment on our YouTube 2.1 (free) & LazyTube 2.1 (99c) tile icon concepts attached
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Hello,
Thank you for the feedback.
No offence, but sorry I really dont' like the current icon and the ones you suggest above.
I totally understand that you would like to keep the worm since it is a symbol of LazyWorm, and therefore a part of your identity.... But unfortunately it is not very beautiful and not very sober, so it ruins the beauty of the icon.
I do adore Lazyworm and it's the only negative point I find. I am not very happy when I have to stick the live tile on my start screen
I hope you will not feel offended by my comment, it is not my purpose.
You can only get the HTC YouTube app if you have developer unlocked your phone either officially as a developer or with the ChevronWP7 hack. It will only work if you have a firmware before NoDo. If you want to know how to jailbreak, you can go here for the beginners' guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=938106
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Thanks for your reply, but my question was how can I find the HTC Youtube app, not how to unlock my phone, LOL. I would have asked that question first if thats what I wanted. No offense. Ive searched the forums but may have missed it. can someone else help me out
I use LazyWorm and HTC YouTube. Even tough I prefer LazyWorm, which has a great UI, quality, speed and smoothness, I sometimes just want to know what's new on YouTube that comes from Germany. HTC YouTube supports regions, LazyWorm sadly doesn't.
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Even just the word Youtube with nothing else would be better.
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Yes, I agree. The same icon without the worm would be really better, or a simple YouTube logo (maybe replacing 'You' by 'Lazy')...
Also, if LazyWorm could supports regions, like HTC YouTube does, it would be cool indeed.
I like it.. Keep up the good work. Dont listen to these fools. Thats your logo. Stand by it.
So I'm working on a post for my site. It's going to be a list about things a developer does with an application that frustrates us as users. The goal is to highlight common complains from the community about practices devs use in their apps and to hopefully encourage them with feedback to improve.
This is the list I've got so far. Please feel free to chime in if you agree or disagree and ADD any things that bug you as a USER.
--Lack of a live tile: One of the biggest differences on our platforms and others is the inclusion of live tiles. If it makes sense for the application, a live tile is a must. I'm hard pressed to find a large category of apps where a live tile wouldn't make sense at some basic level.
--No fast app switching: No explanation needed, devs get with it.
--Not playing nice with Metro: You make an app for iOS or Android and now you want to port it Windows Phone as fast as possible...so fast you don't think about the design. Great apps on Windows Phone are those that capitalize on the principles of the design language.
--Have both a paid and free version of an app: Do a search for an app in the Market or App Store and you'll get two versions for a lot of popular apps: the free and paid version. There is NO reason why you would need to do that with Windows Phone. Devs have the ability to implement a 'trial' state of an application where they can do everything and more a 'free' version of an app could. Stop cluttering the Marketplace.
--Redirecting to a website: I once downloaded a sports app that had potential. I opened the app and played around. There was a pivot page that had a section for news. Clicked it...and bam. IE is opening up. Nope, no thank you. I want to use your app now your website.
These are some of the big themes that I've encountered more than I should when playing around with apps. This is not a major problem, but it's there and it really shouldn't be.
Also I'm not trying to put developers down, I know it's hard work and I myself am trying to learn as well. But we should strive for something better.
Alright, sound off with some feedback guys. Any other 'sins against users' I've missed that you encounter? I'd like to see what you think before I write the post on my site.
ALSOOOO.... How about you list some apps that contain these 'sins against users'. That way we can politely invite the developer to hear our thoughts and implement changes that benefit everyone. Happy users = $, $= happy dev.
All these are minor.. My biggest complaint is when push notification is either delayed or doesnt come at all. I've missed some important whatsapp messages cause it was delayed 10 mins.
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--Have both a paid and free version of an app: Do a search for an app in the Market or App Store and you'll get two versions for a lot of popular apps: the free and paid version. There is NO reason why you would need to do that with Windows Phone. Devs have the ability to implement a 'trial' state of an application where they can do everything and more a 'free' version of an app could. Stop cluttering the Marketplace.
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As I agree with what you are posting, I think you missed the point on this one.
It's true that this is cluttering the marketplace, but people like to hand out a "FREE" version from a marketing persepective. There is a seperate column with "free" apps, hence it will be easier to stand out with both a free and paid app...
Also if you have a fully functional free trial (with only an add) it is still being noted as paid app, so you miss everybody who has no credit card, they will automatically overlook a paid app, even if it has a free unlimited trial (well there are always exceptions of course, but those account mostly for "high profile" apps/games).
This is the main reason, that without uploading 2 apps, there is an unfair disadvantage for the dev.
But I agree it is annoying but from a developer perspective it makes a lot of sense why people do this.
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As I agree with what you are posting, I think you missed the point on this one.
It's true that this is cluttering the marketplace, but people like to hand out a "FREE" version from a marketing persepective. There is a seperate column with "free" apps, hence it will be easier to stand out with both a free and paid app...
Also if you have a fully functional free trial (with only an add) it is still being noted as paid app, so you miss everybody who has no credit card, they will automatically overlook a paid app, even if it has a free unlimited trial (well there are always exceptions of course, but those account mostly for "high profile" apps/games).
This is the main reason, that without uploading 2 apps, there is an unfair disadvantage for the dev.
But I agree it is annoying but from a developer perspective it makes a lot of sense why people do this.
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I agree. Some devs don't mention what the trial offers(time-limited or function-limited) and hence I stay away from such paid apps. Sometimes the trial is fully functional with ads. Agreed that the devs were lazy to not include it in the description, but some users are lazy too. That would be the reason for two versions of the app.
it not being available at all.
or how about it's free on android or ios, but $3 on wp7... wtf?
Marvin_S said:
As I agree with what you are posting, I think you missed the point on this one.
It's true that this is cluttering the marketplace, but people like to hand out a "FREE" version from a marketing persepective. There is a seperate column with "free" apps, hence it will be easier to stand out with both a free and paid app...
Also if you have a fully functional free trial (with only an add) it is still being noted as paid app, so you miss everybody who has no credit card, they will automatically overlook a paid app, even if it has a free unlimited trial (well there are always exceptions of course, but those account mostly for "high profile" apps/games).
This is the main reason, that without uploading 2 apps, there is an unfair disadvantage for the dev.
But I agree it is annoying but from a developer perspective it makes a lot of sense why people do this.
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Yeah, I understand the marketing angle. I guess I live in some fantasy land in my head where the world is clean and organized. Hopefully with the Windows 8 Marketplace offering devs simliliar options in how they can implement trials we'll see less "free" apps because users may come expect every paid app to come with a trial.
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it not being available at all.
or how about it's free on android or ios, but $3 on wp7... wtf?
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That is something I missed, I how they determine the price difference between platforms?
Off the top of your head, do any apps come to mind where there is a big price difference in platforms? Exclude Xbox Live enabled games for a moment, the reason being I can see the inclusion of achievements, leaderboards, etc to be the cause of the price bump.
I'm in need of a map/location/gps app, that supports offline map caching . while I found couple of them on marketplace, ones that had nice design an functionality, all of them where online only and ones that had offline map caching had terrible design an absolutely no functionality. thats sad
design and functionality should be put first IMO
Inconsistent Resuming and Lack of Tombstoning
Once an app leaves the foreground you have two methods of returning to it: use the app switcher or hitting the tile on your Start screen. Going from the app switcher resumes as expected, but going from the Start screen restarts the app, even if it's already sitting in the background. Now this is probably something Microsoft has to fix, but I feel that if more apps tombstoned, then it could make things more consistent.
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That is something I missed, I how they determine the price difference between platforms?
Off the top of your head, do any apps come to mind where there is a big price difference in platforms? Exclude Xbox Live enabled games for a moment, the reason being I can see the inclusion of achievements, leaderboards, etc to be the cause of the price bump.
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Yes if they would note next to the price tag of each app wheter it contains a Trial version, it is less needed for devs to release a seperate "Lite" version. However the problem is now you have to click the app first than wait until the buttons show up in order to find out wheter an app has a free trial.
This should be there on the big scroll list so a user will see at first glance wheter he/she can try the app for free. At the moment I can't blame dev's for introducing their own workarounds.
But what is more annoying to me is that if devs follow metro design and don't use the margins correctly. Hence the app looks odd in comparison to the native apps, i.e. a lot of chat apps mimick the messaging app but don't pay attention to the margins, the bubble sizes and the bubble alignments, which will make them look very unprofessional. This is sad because they did take the effort to stylize the app like Metro, but they ruined the experience because of not "understanding" the fundamentals of the design language. Which is not just typography but also clever and precise use of margins, shapes and spacings. And since there is not much chrome, every tiny offset or error stands out to a trained eye instantly.
Marvin_S said:
Yes if they would note next to the price tag of each app wheter it contains a Trial version, it is less needed for devs to release a seperate "Lite" version. However the problem is now you have to click the app first than wait until the buttons show up in order to find out wheter an app has a free trial.
This should be there on the big scroll list so a user will see at first glance wheter he/she can try the app for free. At the moment I can't blame dev's for introducing their own workarounds.
But what is more annoying to me is that if devs follow metro design and don't use the margins correctly. Hence the app looks odd in comparison to the native apps, i.e. a lot of chat apps mimick the messaging app but don't pay attention to the margins, the bubble sizes and the bubble alignments, which will make them look very unprofessional. This is sad because they did take the effort to stylize the app like Metro, but they ruined the experience because of not "understanding" the fundamentals of the design language. Which is not just typography but also clever and precise use of margins, shapes and spacings. And since there is not much chrome, every tiny offset or error stands out to a trained eye instantly.
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I think going forward an ideal scenario would be a user expects to have a trial mode for any app that a dev is asking money for. It's a win-win for both consumers and developers. Check out this post from Paul Laberge explaining some of the benefits of a trial mode.
Seems like your second paragraph is echoing the statement to follow metro design language/principles and aim for higher quality control in regards to the design.
It's interesting, I feel like 5 years ago software was all about being functional with no regard to design. Now we not only demand, but expect applications to function well and look beautiful. Exciting times
karan1203 said:
All these are minor.. My biggest complaint is when push notification is either delayed or doesnt come at all. I've missed some important whatsapp messages cause it was delayed 10 mins.
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Are those faults of the developer or the platform itself? I ask because I don't know a lot of the technical workings behind the push notification system. My limited knowledge tells me it might be a mix of both parties to blame.
Can anyone clarify?
apps?
For sure about Notifications part.
Push Notification can be useful "ONLY" when you have the phone right in front of your face. Because right after that, they are gone forever.
Second, Push Notification usually have a delay , about a half to 2 mins, from the actual event.
Like my friend can post a thing on my Facebook Wall, and the phone took about 2 mins to update it to the ME title. Same with all other Applications.
I used to try hacking the ROM and Registry of the Phone to reduce the delay of the Title Update. But failed so hard because Microsoft really locked it up hard.
I think most of the annoyances are captured already in the initial post but I'll also add
-That some apps are still being released without mango capability.
-Some apps are just the mobile site (for example the tagged app wtf?)
prohibido_por_la_ley said:
I think most of the annoyances are captured already in the initial post but I'll also add
-That some apps are still being released without mango capability.
-Some apps are just the mobile site (for example the tagged app wtf?)
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I was hoping I'd cover the most obvious complaints, but wanted to reach out and see if anything was missing. Also venting is good for us
And regarding Tagged...? Wow... I just looked at it on the web Marketplace and I won't let something that hideous touch my phone. It's just lazy and doesn't add any value to users or devs. Users get nothing out of it and as a dev what have you accomplished?
Apps like that should not pass certification. It seems draconian, but it's ok for us to demand and expect quality work.
wixostrix said:
...but going from the Start screen restarts the app, even if it's already sitting in the background.
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This is (or was pre-Mango) a requirement to have your app certified. The rules say/said that a user returning to a task via the Back button is trying to complete an interupted task; a user launching the app from Start is starting a new task and shouldn't be presented with abandoned work from earlier.
I have a calculator app that maintains full state across invocations. I was worried that MS would reject the app because it preserved state even upon restarting. They did accept it, though.
Worst thing for me is wasted screen space.
A good example is the official WP7 Facebook app. Go to the "wall" screen, and you have "FACEBOOK" then "Most Recent" then "What's on your mind?" all permanently stuck at the top. Space is also wasted at both sides, meaning that only 50-60% of the screen is actually available to display your friends wall posts.
I thought the idea of Metro is to "put information first", so this is ridiculous. I have a phone with a 3.7" screen, yet the facebook app is more readable on my friends 3" non-widescreen Blackberry.
Aphasaic2002 said:
Worst thing for me is wasted screen space.
A good example is the official WP7 Facebook app. Go to the "wall" screen, and you have "FACEBOOK" then "Most Recent" then "What's on your mind?" all permanently stuck at the top. Space is also wasted at both sides, meaning that only 50-60% of the screen is actually available to display your friends wall posts.
I thought the idea of Metro is to "put information first", so this is ridiculous. I have a phone with a 3.7" screen, yet the facebook app is more readable on my friends 3" non-widescreen Blackberry.
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I hear you on that Facebook app. Thankfully the integration with Windows Phone makes it so that I haven't opened it in months. I check FB once a day on the browser at home before bed, but that's about it.
But I'll chalk this complaint under the 'design abuse' category.
Anyone have any other apps that violate some of our sins in the original post in this thread?
I'd like to see improvements with the sound handeling. Most games have a 'music volume' and a 'FX volume' it seems the volume % is boolean, 0% is silent, 10%-100% is full volume. I'd like to listen to my music while gaming without the Pew Pew causing my ears to bleed