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this 4g business, On Sprint's site it doesn't seem like I'll be getting it anytime soon, and I live in Indianapolis which I thought was a pretty highly populated city...
wanted to see how many users are actually gaining no benefit from 4g and how many use is daily
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this 4g business, I live no where near it [so i cant data + talk], and on Sprint's site it doesn't seem like I'll be getting it anytime soon, and I live in Indianapolis which I thought was a pretty highly populated city...
wanted to see how many users are actually gaining no benefit from 4g
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hehe, nice, that's where I live too ;-)
I live in st. louis, and it seems that we get it more down town in the center of the city, but not in the outer parts of st louis county.
4g in chicago near my home (by midway) i get around 3.5-4.5mb download and downtown i get whats in my sig
anyone have 4g in tampa? I know its supposed to come soon but I can detect a 4g signal in north tampa. It just doesnt connect, keeps saying "obtaining ip address from sprint"...anyone else have any success??
It's pretty strong here in south part of Austin. It's definitely faster than 3G!
Yes, it eats battery power so I always switch over to 4G when I'm plugged in, especially if I'm tethering.
I have an app called Power Manager that can switch things on or off according to your power (battery, AC, USB, low battery, etc.). Right now it will only do wifi and GPS but I'm hoping there will be support for 4G soon. Anyone know of an app that would do something similar? I may give "Locale" a try.
My area isn't listed as a 4g location, but it's "coming in 2010", I heard October tbqh. They do have a map of some locations in the bay area (South Bay) that have 4g... but the other day I turned it on and sure enough there was 4g at my gym! So I have been playing around with 4g a bit more, and it comes really close to my house. Sadly it doesn't reach my house, just a few blocks away.
So when I have it (near work, or at the gym etc) I use it, it is faster and I notice the difference
Is anyone else experiencing really poor performance with the Google Wireless tether app? I tried a couple of different versions of the apk from the Google code site (pre8 and pre9) and here in a 4G service area (St. Louis) I was barely getting any throughput at all on my iPad linked to the Evo. The Evo itself using Speed Test was VERY fast, like 3800 down and 980 up.
Just wondered if I was missing a setting, or if there is some nonsense going on.
Thanks in advance,
-Rob
I was using wireless tether on SIUE's campus at about 9.3 Mbps down off of Microsoft's servers. I don't get great throughput in the city...about 4-5 Mbps...but it's working with 4G.
Wow!
SIU-E has 4G coverage?? I work in Clayton, but I live REALLY close to SIU-E and I wasn't aware there were any Wimax towers over in IL yet.
Interesting... Please let me know on that. I will scan for a tower when I get home tonight.
Thanks,
-Rob
I don't have 4g, but I have noticed that on 3g if I run speed test on my phone and then run it on the device tethered to my phone, the tethered device gets about half the speed of the phone. Better than nothing, but it kind of sucks.
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SIU-E has 4G coverage?? I work in Clayton, but I live REALLY close to SIU-E and I wasn't aware there were any Wimax towers over in IL yet.
Interesting... Please let me know on that. I will scan for a tower when I get home tonight.
Thanks,
-Rob
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Yeah, the tower is on campus...the range isn't great. It's right next to the campus police dept. There are towers in Collinsville and Fairview Heights also. The one in Collinsville is just a couple miles south of the 255/Horseshoe Lake Rd intersection (it's probably right there at the 255/55 intersection, but I didn't drive that far). I haven't driven enough around Fairview, but I'm pretty sure it's there off of 64 near IL-159.
I just want to see a big huge tower in Alton, right next to my house...mwahahahhahaha.
I was in a sprint store and the woman turned off my 4g switch and told me to not use it because we don't have 4g in my city. She said we only have 3g (crappy towers at that). Is it possible only larger cities have 4g? I've even attempted to find maps of where the 3g towers were in my city to see if I could test the connectivity but there's nothing offered. I'm honestly not sure what to do.
Check out sprint.com they have a map that overlays all there locations with 3g and 4g and what not. short answer to your question is yes. 4g is pretty limited to major US cities and even then not the whole cities. Over time they should get more coverage but we'll see how switching to lte over WiMax plays out.
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I live in the US - Raleigh NC area, they have pretty decent coverage here. But seeing as I just got my phone and Sprint about 3 weeks ago I can't talk about travel at a distance. Stormglove is right, check out sprints web site.
There are like 3 towers with wimax in the whole state of Arizona but Phoenix is the 5th largest city in the nation... Go figure
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I live in Louisville, KY. Apparently there are like 2 WiMax towers here. Connection is pretty poor though, even within range of WiMax I can get repeated connects and disconnects.
I dont get how they can even advertise 4g for Sprint. The amount of towers they currently have deployed probably dont even cover 10% of the usa i bet. Theres 1 tower in my state i beleive and its not even on the sqme island as me :-( they should advertise it as such.. "sprint, slow ass 3g and 4g thats probably not even within distance of a IBM missel" cause there 4g is a fricken joke
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I get great 4g in NYC 5MB/sec (in my house which is practically a dead zone for ALL phones >_>{LUCKY ME!!!!}) and 10MB/sec+ outside my house. hopefully LTE shows better results for the rest of sprint users. =(
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There are like 3 towers with wimax in the whole state of Arizona but Phoenix is the 5th largest city in the nation... Go figure
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Us Mexicans can't build there.. we are not allowed in Arizona... duh!
I would just test it. I live in Prescott, Arizona, and according to sprint.com there isn't a 4g tower for miles and miles. However, on average I get 3 bars of 4g n a connection speed of about 12 mbps. So I would just flip it on every now and then and see
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Well in the case of when i was in Gurnee Ill around thanksgiving they actually lost 4g.
Thanksgiving 2010 they had 4g while i was down there, Thanksgiving 2011 they no longer had 4g the week i was down there...
Strange...
i get 4g in philadelphia... although as i go about town i'd say reception is spotty at best. if i'm in a good spot 4g blazes. if i'm in a car or certain areas, it's nil.
on another note, i think wimax is more or less dead on the water? there will be no more or few towers invested in by sprint since they want to be on lte by 2013. i could be recalling this info inaccurately; also since they piggyback off clear's wimax that doesn't mean clear will cease expanding their market - but i'm not sure about any of this, so take this post as speculation.
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I would just test it. I live in Prescott, Arizona, and according to sprint.com there isn't a 4g tower for miles and miles. However, on average I get 3 bars of 4g n a connection speed of about 12 mbps. So I would just flip it on every now and then and see
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I love that area and try to get up to oak creek canyon at least 3 or 4 times a year in summer
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Just go to clear.com and check the coverage map to see tower locations for your area since sprint is using them for their 4g coverage
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Just go to clear.com and check the coverage map to see tower locations for your area since sprint is using them for their 4g coverage
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I wonder how accurate that map is, as i supposedly have 4g.
But its sparatic at best...
Although i suppose sparatic means coverage in that area.
I would consider sprint's 4g more limited in market area's meaning most major markets but not all. Im just outside nashville, tn (not a major market) and its here & have been since june of 2010 but coverage is more spotty than anything. I work in a all glass building and its up and down like a roller coaster trying to get it to stay connected vs switching to 3g. In my home it wont even connect to 4g but not a big deal to me. Personally i would have done some research to see which area's its in b/c paying $10 for premium data isnt quite getting your money's worth in a non 4g area.
To the comment about not covering more than 10 percent of the country. It is probably a lot less than that even. But, since 80 percent of our country lives in urban environments it doesn't matter.
You won't get any type of 4G when your cruising down I-70 in BFE. But, it works fine in St. Louis or Kansas City. Even on a bigger carrier you have a similar problem.
I'm in the Los Angeles area where Sprint's 4G Network is just being built up. The service is terribly slow, even when on the 4G Network. My question/problem though is, I've noticed that when I go from one area to another, for instance if I'm at a shopping center and on tower that's 3G and then cross the street to another shopping center that has a tower that's 4G... my Data gets all screwed up. Somehow in the process of connecting to a new tower with a different speed, my Data always freezes up and you can't do anything for long periods of time. I'm talking anywhere from 5-10 minutes. I often have to put my phone into Airplane mode and reconnect to get anything moving.
Just wondering if this was a common occurrence? Or if this is just a result of Sprint's crappy network, or what.
On a related note, I've also noticed that even if I'm not going between towers, there are a lot of times when my phone says it has a strong Data Connection on either 3G or 4G, say 3 bars or so, and yet my Data hangs and I can't use the web. Any ideas what the cause might be?
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I'm in the Los Angeles area where Sprint's 4G Network is just being built up. The service is terribly slow, even when on the 4G Network. My question/problem though is, I've noticed that when I go from one area to another, for instance if I'm at a shopping center and on tower that's 3G and then cross the street to another shopping center that has a tower that's 4G... my Data gets all screwed up. Somehow in the process of connecting to a new tower with a different speed, my Data always freezes up and you can't do anything for long periods of time. I'm talking anywhere from 5-10 minutes. I often have to put my phone into Airplane mode and reconnect to get anything moving.
Just wondering if this was a common occurrence? Or if this is just a result of Sprint's crappy network, or what.
On a related note, I've also noticed that even if I'm not going between towers, there are a lot of times when my phone says it has a strong Data Connection on either 3G or 4G, say 3 bars or so, and yet my Data hangs and I can't use the web. Any ideas what the cause might be?
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The bars do not determine your signal strength. There's cases where people have no bars but data is still being transferred and get fantastic speeds. I recommend installing Speedtest and depending on your results you should call your network provider on the data issue
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The bars do not determine your signal strength. There's cases where people have no bars but data is still being transferred and get fantastic speeds. I recommend installing Speedtest and depending on your results you should call your network provider on the data issue
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Yeah, I have Speedtest. The speeds in LA are awful. Usually range from 0.54 to 0.78 mbps DL on 3G. On 4G its about 8.7 - 9.13.
And thanks for the response, but I still don't understand what the connection issue is between Towers and I'm pretty sure calling Sprint to ask them what the deal is would be a waste of 3 hours.
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I'm in the Los Angeles area where Sprint's 4G Network is just being built up. The service is terribly slow, even when on the 4G Network. My question/problem though is, I've noticed that when I go from one area to another, for instance if I'm at a shopping center and on tower that's 3G and then cross the street to another shopping center that has a tower that's 4G... my Data gets all screwed up. Somehow in the process of connecting to a new tower with a different speed, my Data always freezes up and you can't do anything for long periods of time. I'm talking anywhere from 5-10 minutes. I often have to put my phone into Airplane mode and reconnect to get anything moving.
Just wondering if this was a common occurrence? Or if this is just a result of Sprint's crappy network, or what.
On a related note, I've also noticed that even if I'm not going between towers, there are a lot of times when my phone says it has a strong Data Connection on either 3G or 4G, say 3 bars or so, and yet my Data hangs and I can't use the web. Any ideas what the cause might be?
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I may not know what can cause this issue but I can try to help on making it a tad better. Check out my recent post on how to increase your data speed on the Note 2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2253340 and if your data does hang, try going into Settings, More Settings, Mobile networks, and just uncheck and check Mobile data. Hope this helps out.
When using the H+ network? My data connection switches constantly from 3g to H+ at my home. I get like 3-5 MB/s on average. I always have full bars and I live about 20 mins south of Kansas City.
What speed do you get on your S3? When downloading apps and the like I only seem to get like 300kb/s....it feels really slow.
You?
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I get like 3-5 MB/s on average.
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Wow. It seems like you live in an area with HSPA+ 42 coverage. Where I live, I only get HSPA+ 21 coverage, which is more like 2.5 MB/s. When downloading apps I usually get around that speed as well. The 300kb/s speed you're getting might be due to server congestion, which has little to do with your connection. Only a few times have I had to deal with slow downloads from Google Play.
8-12mb average in Clearwater, FL. 2-3mb up.
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Before the big LTE migration, I would get 10-15, over 20 on a good day. Nowadays I can usually get 5-10, sometimes 15. Rarely see 20 anymore.
This data speed thing is lame. Can't believe they released the T999L after >.<
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I'm in Birmingham, AL, which I think is HSPA+ 21, and I usually get around 7-11 mbps. Don't think I'm really missing anything by not having LTE.
IMO HSPA+ 21 is good enough for anything I've come across so far (YouTube, downloading apps, web browsing, streaming radio). Unless you're a data-speed freak you're probably not going to notice the difference between HSPA+ and LTE, unless you download large files often.
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IMO HSPA+ 21 is good enough for anything I've come across so far (YouTube, downloading apps, web browsing, streaming radio). Unless you're a data-speed freak you're probably not going to notice the difference between HSPA+ and LTE, unless you download large files often.
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The big difference I see between HSPA+ and LTE is latency. There is no comparison. LTE kills it, no waiting for connection and data starting to download. Also very noticeable in high subscriber density environments (Disneyland for instance). LTE handles lots of devices more efficiently than HSPA.
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Same area as another poster here.. clearwater/largo, on my T999 I get 5-15 down, 2 up, depending on the time of day... Since I got my S4, I get 29/10 all day every day on LTE, I laugh because my phone is faster than my bright house connection and cheaper... plus, as others have said, latency kills HSPA+, I cant even download stuff without a connection interrupt. I just wish there was some way to switch the S4 to LTE only and still do calling, but Tmobile AFAIK does not support voice over LTE...to bad you cant re-rout the wifi calling over it to fool the phone into thinking its calling over wifi.
NYC here. around 13-20 when I'm outside. Never above 20.
In Jacksonville Fl I average 10-15 download and 2 upload.
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ShernDog said:
When using the H+ network? My data connection switches constantly from 3g to H+ at my home. I get like 3-5 MB/s on average. I always have full bars and I live about 20 mins south of Kansas City.
What speed do you get on your S3? When downloading apps and the like I only seem to get like 300kb/s....it feels really slow.
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Well I Get Different Download Speeds Depending On The Time Of Dat.... Like In My 4th Period Class O Can Get Up To 2/mbps Which Is Cool But At Home I Get 200/kbps so well that's what I Get in Santa Ana California
I would just think that being in a rather large metropolitan area I would be getting better speeds. Wouldn't they want to focus on large centers for better towers? Oh well...I still have a year on my contract. I want to get the next Google nexus that comes out.
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ShernDog said:
I would just think that being in a rather large metropolitan area I would be getting better speeds. Wouldn't they want to focus on large centers for better towers? Oh well...I still have a year on my contract. I want to get the next Google nexus that comes out.
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Well Being In A Large Are Doesn't Mean You Get Faster Internet Speed... Because Of Major Population In A City people Use There Phones Way More and At around the Same Time... But In Little Areas People Don't Use There Pgones Tgat Much And A Different Times ... There Are To Many Variables To This