When will epic touch get 2.3.5 the T-Mobile gs2. Is running it and I have read it gives a nice performance boast
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Tomorrow
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic Touch 3g
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Tomorrow
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic Touch 3g
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Tomorrow? What are you talking about? I got the OTA last week
The first 2.3.5 that the ET4G will see will be from CM7, without a doubt.
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When will epic touch get 2.3.5 the T-Mobile gs2. Is running it and I have read it gives a nice performance boast
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Google has to add pimp support to 2.3.5 first before it can go on our phones.
I'm running 2.3.7 on my Nexus S 4G right now and honestly...I've never seen much in the way of performance with these updates. Mostly just stability and bug fixes.
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Google has to add pimp support to 2.3.5 first before it can go on our phones.
I'm running 2.3.7 on my Nexus S 4G right now and honestly...I've never seen much in the way of performance with these updates. Mostly just stability and bug fixes.
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and adding some things. on 2.3.7 it brought google wallet but I think that's about it right? I also have a nexus s 4g
graffixnyc said:
and adding some things. on 2.3.7 it brought google wallet but I think that's about it right? I also have a nexus s 4g
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You are correct sir!
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XWKI8 - For Nordic Countries
No differences found as yet, only that its much quicker than KI3 and also has improved battery life.
Stuff we already know:
1. Over scroll glow (a yucky one that too) - NO more bounce effect (THANK GOD!)
2. New firmware number (umm… )
3. More detailed power saver mode (under settings)
4. If profile is "Sound + Vibration" a vibration logo appears in the notification bar (BUG)
5. Endless loop scrolling between home screens
6. SIP no longer supported
7. Improved battery life
8. Improved sound quality
9. You can now change discovery period for BT devices. -rickytenzer
OTHER GENERAL STUFF NOTICED:
1. More blueness across the board added, maybe bracing for ICS?
2. Ridiculously smooth notification pull downs and smoother graphics and animation rendering everywhere.
3. At least 30% quicker than my older KG1.
4. Back button works lethally fast.
5. Anti-aliasing on fonts a leap better than older builds
6. Faster and better response in Voice talk app
7. New video maker app (not sure if that’s new ☹ )
8. Notification icons take lesser space in the notification bar
9. Support pulled for many older bluetooth devices
More detailed Changelog:
CLOCK:
1. Multiple alarm entries can be selected and deleted at one go. (in alarms press menu> delete)
2. World clock is revamped, where the clock goes dark if indicating time of a country that is currently sleeping.
3. New desk clock feature (in clock, scoll the top tab where alarms, world clock etc are located to your left)
4. Overall, the themes are going more blue across the board.
CALENDAR:
1. Week view is more comprehensive now (not meant for the big thumbed!)
2. Improvements in creating calendar entries.
MUSIC PLAYER:
1. Still sucks like hell!
2. New animation when changing songs by swiping the cover in the “now playing” screen.
3. Wider sound stage, better sound management, better 5.1
4. Lower volumes via speakers and Bluetooth headsets
BROWSER (INTERNET):
1. New animation and look when switching tabs.
2. Removed tab numbers in the open tabs overview
3. Speed improvements.
4. New animation when opening a new tab
5. C-Grade over scroll glow, but non intrusive.
6. Still didn’t fix multi touch on the browser. (Try moving around the page using 2 fingers touched) – BUMMER!
CAMERA:
1. Improved cam quality
2. Improved UI and multi touch support when viewing recently clicked via camera.
GALLERY:
1. Now can directly access camera from Gallery (Top right)
2. New revamped path bar (on the top, when accessing folders or pictures)
3. Much faster thumb-nailing scripts and quicker rendering
4. Revamped options bar (the one that comes up at the bottom of every pic with options send via and delete)
5. Can see picture previews before entering any folder (just pinch any bunch outward to see a photo flow)
6. New zoom in and zoom out buttons when viewing pictures (on top right)
MARKET:
1. New market (takes some time to update after flashing)
2. Minor speed improvements
MY FILES:
1. Option to view as thumbnails.
2. UI improvements
GTALK:
1. UI improvements (look at your username, much smaller / look at the look of the bubble representing open chats)
VIDEOS:
1. Revamped UI when playing videos.
2. Now supports portrait playback (and will need to rotate for landscape view)
3. Power button while playback locks the screen (didn’t do that in some builds)
4. Can trim video (press menu while playback and select trim)
SETTINGS:
1. More options under “Call”
2. New vibrations options under “Sound”
3. New “Battery usage” link under “Applications”
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This is what i am talking about
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Those are more like UI/system app enhancements and optimizations.
Yeah I would like this on the phone
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Yeah I would really like to see us get an update to 2.3.7 while it did just add wallet it would be nice to get the stability improvements that have been added. And maybe a fix for the AOS bug we have been having also.
I wouldn't even begin to worry about that until you see the overseas Galaxy's S get theirs.
They normally see the updates at least a few months before we see ours.
I would agree with that but the T-Mobile is shipped with it which makes no sense for us not to get it
ttieder said:
I would agree with that but the T-Mobile is shipped with it which makes no sense for us not to get it
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What any other phone has or ships with has no bearing on when we will get it...in America and especially with a Samsung.
Samsung isn't renowned for their timely updates. That may have changed, as many things have suggested. But even assuming that Samsung already has the update finished it has to go through a rigorous (read: long, tedious and painful) testing process and carrier approval. Lets not forget all the bureaucracy involved at every level of management in every department in each of the companies.
I come from a long line of HTC phones. HTC is pretty fantastic about getting updates out in a timely fashion...but...they still suck at it for the aforementioned reasons.
Wait for CM7...it'll very likely come much sooner.
Does the OG Epic even have GB yet? CM7 on my EVO4G hit GB in, what, March? April? When did it come out officially for the EVO4G? June? ...and that was a major update. These tiny point releases aren't something I would ever hold my breath for.
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What any other phone has or ships with has no bearing on when we will get it...in America and especially with a Samsung.
Samsung isn't renowned for their timely updates. That may have changed, as many things have suggested. But even assuming that Samsung already has the update finished it has to go through a rigorous (read: long, tedious and painful) testing process and carrier approval. Lets not forget all the bureaucracy involved at every level of management in every department in each of the companies.
I come from a long line of HTC phones. HTC is pretty fantastic about getting updates out in a timely fashion...but...they still suck at it for the aforementioned reasons.
Wait for CM7...it'll very likely come much sooner.
Does the OG Epic even have GB yet? CM7 on my EVO4G hit GB in, what, March? April? When did it come out officially for the EVO4G? June? ...and that was a major update. These tiny point releases aren't something I would ever hold my breath for.
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It does make a difference. Samsung has a history of releasing updates overseas before we see them.
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It does make a difference. Samsung has a history of releasing updates overseas before we see them.
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What leads you to believe that they haven't already released it to the carriers?
The system overseas is a lot different than what we have here. Over there you buy the phone you want and then pick your carrier. We do it backwards. Over there you deal with Samsung for warranty issues. We deal with the carrier. Over there you get your updates from Samsung. We do not. That is the holdup.
It is likely that Samsung is nearly ready to release (or already has released) the update to the carriers. Now the carriers have to go through it and check it, add bloatware, maybe even remove features (like tethering) if Samsung doesn't do that for them.
Remember that, we don't get our updates from Samsung or HTC or LG or Motorola. We get them from the carrier or from the manufacturer after it has already received carrier approval. Over here Samsung doesn't deal with (any but the most severe) problems from a buggy release, the carriers do.
While nobody actually knows 100% WTF the deal is with how up-their-ass the carriers are me and many others assume this to be the reason why it takes so damn long for phones to be released over here after being released to the whole world (sometimes they are released here first just to be released first...but when they are released here afterwards it is because of all of this crap unless it is dealt with very very very carefully and intentionally).
All that said I stick to my main point: Don't bet on minor point releases. After all the bull**** they have to deal with it just isn't worth it for very minor versions. CM comes through reliably once it is on your device.
That's coming with dual boot.
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What leads you to believe that they haven't already released it to the carriers?
The system overseas is a lot different than what we have here. Over there you buy the phone you want and then pick your carrier. We do it backwards. Over there you deal with Samsung for warranty issues. We deal with the carrier. Over there you get your updates from Samsung. We do not. That is the holdup.
It is likely that Samsung is nearly ready to release (or already has released) the update to the carriers. Now the carriers have to go through it and check it, add bloatware, maybe even remove features (like tethering) if Samsung doesn't do that for them.
Remember that, we don't get our updates from Samsung or HTC or LG or Motorola. We get them from the carrier or from the manufacturer after it has already received carrier approval. Over here Samsung doesn't deal with (any but the most severe) problems from a buggy release, the carriers do.
While nobody actually knows 100% WTF the deal is with how up-their-ass the carriers are me and many others assume this to be the reason why it takes so damn long for phones to be released over here after being released to the whole world (sometimes they are released here first just to be released first...but when they are released here afterwards it is because of all of this crap unless it is dealt with very very very carefully and intentionally).
All that said I stick to my main point: Don't bet on minor point releases. After all the bull**** they have to deal with it just isn't worth it for very minor versions. CM comes through reliably once it is on your device.[/QUOTE/]
You got me there, true we really don't know if Sprint already has the update and hasn't released it.
Someone else mentioned Tmobile already has 2.3.5 unless I'm mistaken though that's the only Galaxy S running that particular processor. I'm pretty sure that Sprint and the overseas versions are all running the 1.2 Exynos.
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You got me there, true we really don't know if Sprint already has the update and hasn't released it.
Someone else mentioned Tmobile already has 2.3.5 unless I'm mistaken though that's the only Galaxy S running that particular processor. I'm pretty sure that Sprint and the overseas versions are all running the 1.2 Exynos.
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Lol. Yeah, I forgot about that. They got the Snapdragon 1.2 ....I really wonder wtf that is all about...I mean...wha? Did Samsung have a boatload of them on hand for some reason? Is there a benefit we don't know about? I don't think so...I mean....I don't get it.
That's probably why they get it. They had to create an entire new build for it so they decided they might as well build it with the latest version.
Wow...even though it looks more like the rest than the AT&T version it truly will be the red-headed stepchild of the family.
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Patiently Waiting
According to this leaked accessory document AT&T is preparing to release another HTC Smartphone, the HTC Eternity. From this document we can see that a battery, a dock, and bunch of HTC cases are going to accompany HTC Eternity.
After some email correspondence with HTCPedia Shop (from whom we received this document), we were told that HTC Eternity will be a Windows Phone 7.5 Mango smartphone, featuring 4.7" display, a 1.5GHz processor, 512MB RAM, 8MP camera, HDMI port, and more.
We were not able to get a confirmed launch date for the HTC Eternity, but a confirmation on a carrier was solid, it will be AT&T. Our rough guess for its release date would have to fall around 2011 holiday season, so very soon.
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Looks like Nov 20th:
http://phonedog.com/2011/11/09/htc-titan-making-its-way-to-at-t-on-november-20th-for-199-99/
Yet there are still no accessories for Focus S? Mindboggling
Yeah if prepping = adding a bunch of crap and mucking up an otherwise nice phone.
have the English version already. May get this one if i can sell mine to somebody, or considering about it later.
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Yeah if prepping = adding a bunch of crap and mucking up an otherwise nice phone.
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?? All apps, including carrier apps, can easily be removed by holding on the application icon.
dtboos said:
?? All apps, including carrier apps, can easily be removed by holding on the application icon.
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It's still there hidden and taking up space on your phone. Also they add a bunch of crap wallpapers bootlogo and ringtones that cant be removed as well as a bunch of other restrictive tweaks to the registry and system. So I stand by my previous statement.
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It's still there hidden and taking up space on your phone. Also they add a bunch of crap wallpapers bootlogo and ringtones that cant be removed as well as a bunch of other restrictive tweaks to the registry and system. So I stand by my previous statement.
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Please elaborate how the app you delete is still there. Ringtones you can choose to use or not is really not a big deal and doesn't "muck" up the phone.
Now if by not enabling internet sharing I'm with you on that, but luckily there is xda
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Please elaborate how the app you delete is still there. Ringtones you can choose to use or not is really not a big deal and doesn't "muck" up the phone.
Now if by not enabling internet sharing I'm with you on that, but luckily there is xda
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The XAP is still there in the rom taking up space sure there is no tile anymore in the application list but that doesnt mean the XAP is gone. For instance if you take a Samsung Focus from AT&T and flash the Rogers ROM to it (99% vanilla) you get about 200MB more space also you dont have the at&t crap boot logo or thier ringtones/wallpapers cluttering things up. You also get 100% of the functionality Samsung designed into the phone.
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The XAP is still there in the rom taking up space sure there is no tile anymore in the application list but that doesnt mean the XAP is gone. For instance if you take a Samsung Focus from AT&T and flash the Rogers ROM to it (99% vanilla) you get about 200MB more space also you dont have the at&t crap boot logo or thier ringtones/wallpapers cluttering things up. You also get 100% of the functionality Samsung designed into the phone.
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Hmm..interesting. Didn't know that.
Ghost volume button issue on most devices
No micro sd card support
Confusing user interface
No Facebook contacts sync
No native social network widget
Can't add more home screens
Fuzzy speaker
Lock screen vibration can't be switched off
No digital clock only analog widget
Quadrant benchmark only 1500 score
Lag in many areas
No Facebook events calendar sync
Only 5m camera
THE VOLUME BUG HAS REALLY PUT ME OFF AND SAMSUNG ARE STILL TO ACKNOWLEDGE
Ghost volume button issue on most devices - Valid Concern
No micro sd card support - Shouldn't be a surprise
Confusing user interface - Seriously?
No Facebook contacts sync - Facebook's fault, not Google's
No native social network widget - Again, look at the social networks for blame
Can't add more home screens - Never been more than 5 in stock android
Fuzzy speaker - valid concern
Lock screen vibration can't be switched off - Don't have one, so can't comment
No digital clock only analog widget - Never been one in stock android
Quadrant benchmark only 1500 score - Don't have one, so can't comment
Lag in many areas - Don't have one, so can't comment
No Facebook events calendar sync - Never been in stock android OR from facebook's app
Only 5m camera - Shouldn't be a surprise
Most of this is your own fault for not knowing in advance, or isn't a valid point.
"Massive"??...thats a strong term to use. Most of your points are either things we already knew or there are other ways to circumvent, so therfore a non-issue. I think you just wanted to make a thread just to be making a thread.
+1 to the other comments.... it is in the best interest to your homework before you purchase, not the day after
The ghost volume and fuzzy speaker are the only real concerns......... and Really. . . . . How many here are going to keep this stock ??? hmmmm???
My guess the sound and volume will be eliminated when either Voodoo is adapted to this phone or some other equal
And, as far as all those other issues custom roms solve all of them
As for me, I always try to get something that has great hardware the software doesn't matter, we here in XDA will customize, make, kang or just create what we need.
Seems to me that this threads are becoming typical every time a new device hits the market more so in this case with all the hype of the Nexus. Buyers remorse, lack of due diligence? Or something else…
Other than the low volume problem, this post only proves how ignorant you are.
Previous post sums it up.
UI is fine - blame the user not the tech!
I don't have the volume issue but that would be the only concern I would point the finger at.
Making a deal about vibrate on a lock screen - what next??
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knut150 said:
Seems to me that this threads are becoming typical every time a new device hits the market more so in this case with all the hype of the Nexus. Buyers remorse, lack of due diligence? Or something else…
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Saying that there has been a "lack of due diligence" implies that people have just gone out and bought the phone with no knowledge of it whatsoever. This isn't true. I read every single hands on, preview, and article I could find on the Nexus before I bought it, and not a single one mentioned any of the problems or small annoyances we have been having. So, tell me - how has showing "due diligence" made any difference to me?
Buyers remorse? Sure, that could factor into it - but only because of the problems.
These threads are becoming more typical because the devices are getting more expensive, and we are becoming to rely on them more for our day to day life. If problems are happening, they become more of an issue to us
viniturb0 said:
Lock screen vibration can't be switched off
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This can be turned off in Settings -> Security -> Vibrate on Touch
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This can be turned off in Settings -> Security -> Vibrate on Touch
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Not sure that setting is in Security - think its in display - and deselecting it in display has no effect on lockscreen
Then again - maybe I'm remembering incorrectly.
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Other than the low volume problem, this post only proves how ignorant you are.
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This post only proves that for some people being polite is only an optional feature.
And also that is a lot easier to insult someone behind a monitor rather than face to face in real life.
Oh and Quadrant is one of the worst benchmarks available. Try some others like linpack / antutu / cf-bench. Eventho those are probably not optimized for ICS, they at least use multithreading etc.
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I actually agree on the interface/UI. Menu key appears on some apps at the bottom some at the top some dont have it at all. Also there's no menu key on the main android screen which Paul O'Brien has modded to show that its there in the code to be used. Not sure what Google were thinking there? Same old Google for me, rushing out updates. ICS needs some polishing in my opinion. Battery life sucks still on the OS too which I would have thought they would have addressed this time around. That volume bug is a pain too, BIG ONE!
This is my opinion mind, hope Google sort these things out.
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I actually agree on the interface/UI. Menu key appears on some apps at the bottom some at the top some dont have it at all. Also there's no menu key on the main android screen which Paul O'Brien has modded to show that its there in the code to be used. Not sure what Google were thinking there? Same old Google for me, rushing out updates. ICS needs some polishing in my opinion. Battery life sucks still on the OS too which I would have thought they would have addressed this time around. That volume bug is a pain too, BIG ONE!
This is my opinion mind, hope Google sort these things out.
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If you're talking about what i think you're talking about then that is actually intended to be like that.
Apps that use the keyboard (Such as messaging, gmail, maps, etc.) all have an action bar where, amongst other things, the menu is that the bottom. When you start using the keyboard, the action bar is removed, and the menu button is then moved to the upper right side of the corner.
Of course, any other app developer can put this wherever they like, and for the apps not currently compatible with this type of menu they have the "compatibility" menu in the software buttons.
As for, what i assume you mean the launcher, it's possible that there is still code for it in ICS to be compatible with older phones that may be upgrading to ICS but will have the 4 capacitive buttons instead, including the menu button.
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Oh and Quadrant is one of the worst benchmarks available. Try some others like linpack / antutu / cf-bench. Eventho those are probably not optimized for ICS, they at least use multithreading etc.
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You mean my 4500 score in Quadrant using my tweaked kernel is meaningless???!?!? I don't think I can live any more...
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Ghost volume button issue on most devices
No micro sd card support
Confusing user interface
No Facebook contacts sync
No native social network widget
Can't add more home screens
Fuzzy speaker
Lock screen vibration can't be switched off
No digital clock only analog widget
Quadrant benchmark only 1500 score
Lag in many areas
No Facebook events calendar sync
Only 5m camera
THE VOLUME BUG HAS REALLY PUT ME OFF AND SAMSUNG ARE STILL TO ACKNOWLEDGE
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if that is your case, i don't see a point you complaining, might as well go get another make handset.
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Can't add more home screens - Never been more than 5 in stock android
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I'm looking at my Motorola Milestone, which I believe is stock Android, with an option for seven and nine homescreens. But I don't use more than five anyway.
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This post only proves that for some people being polite is only an optional feature.
And also that is a lot easier to insult someone behind a monitor rather than face to face in real life.
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Am stating a fact, ignorance is not an insult. dumbass is.
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I'm looking at my Motorola Milestone, which I believe is stock Android, with an option for seven and nine homescreens. But I don't use more than five anyway.
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if that's the case, it isn't stock.
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I'm looking at my Motorola Milestone, which I believe is stock Android, with an option for seven and nine homescreens. But I don't use more than five anyway.
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No, the Milestone is not fully stock Android but it's close. The launcher is slightly different as you've seen.
Obvious troll is obvious. Let the thread die, the OP doesn't care about your replies anyways - hence the lack of any sort of reply.
Besides it being new what are you really gaining. Tons of apps don't work on it. Besides folders and multitasking I don't even know what I'm really gaining. And if I have to lose one feature my phone has now ill pass. Phone works too good right now and ics theme will hold me over for a long time.
I understand everybody wants what is new but think about everything your really gaining. To me its like IOS 4.3 to 5. I upgraded my Ipad 2 lost jailbreak for what I see as a minor upgrade.
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You can stay on gingerbread then, it wont bother me really
I think you need to read up on what actually ICS changes besides icons and themes....
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I think you need to read up on what actually ICS changes besides icons and themes....
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From the leaks, we are not getting the new ui because of twiz
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From the leaks, we are not getting the new ui because of twiz
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Once it starts hitting custom roms, I'm sure we will be getting all sorts of interesting things.
Fataldesain said:
Besides it being new what are you really gaining. Tons of apps don't work on it. Besides folders and multitasking I don't even know what I'm really gaining. And if I have to lose one feature my phone has now ill pass. Phone works too good right now and ics theme will hold me over for a long time.
I understand everybody wants what is new but think about everything your really gaining. To me its like IOS 4.3 to 5. I upgraded my Ipad 2 lost jailbreak for what I see as a minor upgrade.
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You sound like a old man in his old ways lol jk. I can't speak for everyone else but I bought my phone because it was at the time of purchase ahead of every curve (with the exception of nfc) so now that something is out that can make the phone better why the would I not want it. I'm patient in waiting but would love to have it yesterday
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How about true dual core support? or gpu acceleration through the whole phone?
List goes on.
Gingerbread has "true dual core support"
I'm not greedy. Because it's the New thing is the best answer I got. Newer is better right? J/k
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...bad joke.
Fataldesain said:
Besides it being new what are you really gaining. Tons of apps don't work on it. Besides folders and multitasking I don't even know what I'm really gaining. And if I have to lose one feature my phone has now ill pass. Phone works too good right now and ics theme will hold me over for a long time.
I understand everybody wants what is new but think about everything your really gaining. To me its like IOS 4.3 to 5. I upgraded my Ipad 2 lost jailbreak for what I see as a minor upgrade.
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Thanks to the informative Android blogs and tons of videos, most people know why they want ICS besides having a new look. As for your Ipad and losing jailbreak, you probably should have read in advance to see what features iOS 5 had before taking the plunge. I remember reading multiple times that people with jailbreak should hold up on iOS 5 until an untethered jailbreak is done. But hey, this is about Android
What I'm really waiting for is a nice AOSP ICS with everything working. I am less enthusiastic about TW ICS.
One of the videos showed better app controlled , limit or block apps from background data
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Hmm... OP you should consider the fact that ICS source was only recently released and I think the Nexus Prime launched just today. Of course not all apps are going to work you have to give app developers time to update the apps to be compatible. It's not all going to happen overnight that's why these things take time for the transition. Although I'm a little disappointed that TW covers up some features, I am looking forward to:
*Scrollable widgets
*The swipe gesture to remove notifications
*New notification bar Info slots (i.e. when you get a text you see the contact pic)
*Face Unlock (even though it can be bypassed it's cool nonetheless)
*Camera Speed
*New widget placement UI
*New Cool Blue Look
*The drag and drop feature to make folders
*How the app market stays in the app drawer on the top right
*The minimalist layout of all the Google Apps
*A few other things I'm sure everybody knows by now...
Not to say that you have poor judgment, I do advise reading up a little more on the updates before you jump in and discredit them for changing anything. I think Google is actually just trying to make Android more accessible to more than just Devs, if anything at least give them credit for that.
If you want an entire list of things that are new and how they work, read this review (Personally I think it's the best review that covers everything) it's 7 Pages!
LINK
Guys all I'm saying is it seems like alot of people want ics just because and are foaming at the mouth for it. Isn't alot of your apps not working kinda a big deal. People should just calm down enjoy gingerbread for a few more months.
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Improved multitasking is enough for me....a better looking OS.....speed.....better hardware acceleration...more efficient......data monitoring.......ability to block certain apps from accessing data and last but not least.............camera app (that thing needed updating)
ICS is what Android needs to be to fully compete with IOS the only real threat(since Isheep see differently). I am not too anxious to see TW and Sense on ICS
I remember when iphone first came out my buddies back in college were saying look at what I can do.....I pulled out my cingular blue razr v3 and said check this out....made a call lol
Just gotta wait till the apps are updated thats all
I have to agree with OP,to a certain extent. A lot of the new features are incremental, and I think you can duplicate most of them with already available apps/mods. Not to say I'm not going to flash ICS as soon as a good rom comes out, but I am pretty satisfied with how my phone runs now. ICS is the first step to integrate the Android phone /tablet os, like ios ,and will be much better as it evolves.
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Only if your hiding something?
Sure, you may be able to replicate some of those features with other apps, but thats the point... it brings these features to stock android.
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*Scrollable widgets - Already offered in custom launchers
*The swipe gesture to remove notifications - Just extra glamour
*New notification bar Info slots (i.e. when you get a text you see the contact pic) - More extra glamour
*Face Unlock (even though it can be bypassed it's cool nonetheless) - There are apps that already offer this
*Camera Speed - Is a hardware feature of Galaxy Nexus, not ICS
*New widget placement UI - Very similar to TouchWiz
*New Cool Blue Look - Already have themes for this
*The drag and drop feature to make folders - Already offered in custom launchers
*How the app market stays in the app drawer on the top right - Already offered in custom launchers
*The minimalist layout of all the Google Apps - Will be available based on app, not Android version
*A few other things I'm sure everybody knows by now...
Many of the things that you've listed can already be achieved or are part of the Galaxy Nexus and not ICS. Just kind of goes to reinforce the idea that most people really don't know why they want ICS. I personally find ICS to be a bit too intrusive into my privacy, especially seeing as in the recently used app overlay it shows you the last picture you took. Definitely not appealing to people in relationships.
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Although I do see your point, the OP asks why I want ICS. I'm entitled to my opinion right? and I noticed the majority of the things you quoted and responded to have to do with modding the system in some way. How about having it all in one package and not having to download a bunch of apps to imitate what should come stock in the OS.
And what's wrong with a little "extra glamour" ?
I just want stock Gingerbread with better battery life and no CarrierIQ. I don't know how much faster people need these little computers to be but the E4GT is fast enough.
ICS - minor issues
- Books, Videos, Google+, etc all running all the time, must get rid of them
- lack of menu button is annoying
- screen rotation lag is 3 seconds
- many options are not intuitive, ex browser bookmarks
VERIZON - minor issues
- VZ Backup assistant and My Verizon Mobile apps- should not be there, need to get rid of them
SAMSUNG - MAJOR issues that really disappoint
- antenna not as sensitive as Motorola RAZR, reception is poor
- can't hold on to 4G as well as other LTE devices
I should have remembered that the Koreans can't design a good antenna. They copied Steve Jobs' Form over Function mantra. I'm not happy and probably should have stayed with the RAZR
Your minor issues can be solved by going into settings/ applications/ all and disable the apps you don't want.
the rotation lag is a "feature"
Motto has the best radios, that's just what they do...
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So basically your complaint is that you bought an ICS device and that ICS works as advertized.
That and the fact that the Verizon Galaxy Nexus is a carrier-phone, not a Nexus-phone.
First one is absolutely bonkers to complain about. I can sort of understand your issues with number two, but still, you cannot say that you didn't know that up front either.
His complaint about accessing bookmark is founded, people complained to Google:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389351&highlight=BookmarkS
I agree about the bookmarks it's a bit annoying to say the least and should have a dedicated bookmark button without having to go into a new tab.
For the rest this is a stock android phone and trust me you'll find much more bloatware on other android phones which you have to root to get rid of them.
Just disable the Verizon apps ICS can do that now!
Kang Kang Kang a Gong get it on.....
The hardware and design of this phone are top notch - most features work really well except anything in regards to multi-tasking. I am very disappointed that its missing basic functionality I thought should be pretty standard these days especially on a flagship device. Case in point - Usa today app, its always been really nice while traveling since I can sync it before flying and read all the articles while in-flight on my iPhone during airplane mode, with the One X any open browser page or related app becomes a useless blank page when airplane mode is switched on. Heck even the picture I had open in the gallery section closed and took me back to the main gallery (picture) folder and of course this does not need an internet connection.
It looks like Sense 4.0 has eliminated multi-tasking, as much as I like the device otherwise I just cant give up so much basic functionality that I have been enjoying for years on other phones... Will probably have to return and go back to my iphone 4 for now.. Bummer -
It does not appear that HTC recognizes this short-coming as a problem and considers this normal functionality so I cant just wait for an update/fix...
Anyone else feel this way ?
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The hardware and design of this phone are top notch - most features work really well except anything in regards to multi-tasking. I am very disappointed that its missing basic functionality I thought should be pretty standard these days especially on a flagship device. Case in point - Usa today app, its always been really nice while traveling since I can sync it before flying and read all the articles while in-flight on my iPhone during airplane mode, with the One X any open browser page or related app becomes a useless blank page when airplane mode is switched on. Heck even the picture I had open in the gallery section closed and took me back to the main gallery (picture) folder and of course this does not need an internet connection.
It looks like Sense 4.0 has eliminated multi-tasking, as much as I like the device otherwise I just cant give up so much basic functionality that I have been enjoying for years on other phones... Will probably have to return and go back to my iphone 4 for now.. Bummer -
It does not appear that HTC recognizes this short-coming as a problem and considers this normal functionality so I cant just wait for an update/fix...
Anyone else feel this way ?
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multitasking is a bit of a joke on this phone. I hope HTC addresses this in a future update.
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Since Sense + OS alone consume most of the ram (> 80%) on the device, I suppose integrated Android task killer is configured in some paranoid mode and is killing backgroups apps like crazy.
If this bothers you, I would install one of senseless ROMs on your HD2 and be happy Possibly there is also a way to make task killer more civilized in custom Sense ROMs.
Sadly, Sense 4.0 is quit bloated and One-X should have at least 1.5GB of RAM to begin with.
Yup, I agree, multitasking is really bad... All my dolphin browser pages reload if I click the home button and try to go back.
Sent from my HTC One X on Leedroid's ROM v5.1.0.
It will addressed with uopdates after all you bought a quad cote for multi tasking, some of xda chefs are communicating with HTC dev and we reported the very aggressive memfree values, also if you are rooted you can control them with supercharger script
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Case in point - Usa today app, its always been really nice while traveling since I can sync it before flying and read all the articles while in-flight on my iPhone during airplane mode, with the One X any open browser page or related app becomes a useless blank page when airplane mode is switched on.
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When I change the wireless state on my i9100 the same thing happens so it's Android, not HTC or the One X. Even if the USA Today home page was retained clicking on any of the stories would result in an error because there's no wireless connection available. Get an app like Pocket that allows you to save articles from across the web for offline reading. The CNN app also gives you the option to save stories offline.
The multitasking on this phone sucks period. There is not justification. I should not be here looking for an answer. XDA devs should be enhancing the phone not trying to fix basic functionality. I hope HTC solves this problem before my trail period.
mgfjd said:
The multitasking on this phone sucks period. There is not justification. I should not be here looking for an answer. XDA devs should be enhancing the phone not trying to fix basic functionality. I hope HTC solves this problem before my trail period.
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Do any of you understand how multitasking in Android even works? Even if a task is killed by the OS, apps developed that follow the published standard will re-launch in their last state in less than a second. And the better XDA devs should know that. So while HTC's memory management may be aggressive, there's more to it if individual apps aren't behaving correctly.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
Srgsx said:
The hardware and design of this phone are top notch - most features work really well except anything in regards to multi-tasking. I am very disappointed that its missing basic functionality I thought should be pretty standard these days especially on a flagship device. Case in point - Usa today app, its always been really nice while traveling since I can sync it before flying and read all the articles while in-flight on my iPhone during airplane mode, with the One X any open browser page or related app becomes a useless blank page when airplane mode is switched on. Heck even the picture I had open in the gallery section closed and took me back to the main gallery (picture) folder and of course this does not need an internet connection.
It looks like Sense 4.0 has eliminated multi-tasking, as much as I like the device otherwise I just cant give up so much basic functionality that I have been enjoying for years on other phones... Will probably have to return and go back to my iphone 4 for now.. Bummer -
It does not appear that HTC recognizes this short-coming as a problem and considers this normal functionality so I cant just wait for an update/fix...
Anyone else feel this way ?
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If you're not happy w it, return it ASAP. Why do you have to care about what others think? It's your money, your experience.
Case closed. Meetings adjourned lol
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If you're not happy w it, return it ASAP. Why do you have to care about what others think? It's your money, your experience.
Case closed. Meetings adjourned lol
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Its called a forum, in which I can and will reach out to others to get feedback on what I consider a situation with a very flawed segment of Sense which is making me contemplate returning an otherwise very nice device.
Look Apple has been doing this puesdo multi-tasking, app-pausing just fine since 4.0 what the heck is HTC thinking ? Browser tabs store just fine for days WITHOUT an internet connection. I geuss I am just expecting too much.
Sorry to interupt move along nothing to see here - lol
If you really want to pile-on, head over here. The XL'rs are far more up in arms than the X'rs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646409
I've asked the same questions of people that say the way multitasking is implemented is a real hardship but no one's answered. What's the harm? Of "X" hours a day using the phone, what percentage of your time is actually spent active in two (or more) apps simultaneously? And with a powerful processor it shouldn't matter whether a background app is in state or has to be restarted based on the way Android works (see below). I'm not trying to pick a fight I'm trying to understand the depth of the issue.
And since no one's read the article I linked to, here's the cruxt...
Once Android determines that it needs to remove a process, it does this brutally, simply force-killing it. The kernel can then immediately reclaim all resources needed by the process, without relying on that application being well written and responsive to a polite request to exit. Allowing the kernel to immediately reclaim application resources makes it a lot easier to avoid serious out of memory situations.
If a user later returns to an application that's been killed, Android needs a way to re-launch it in the same state as it was last seen, to preserve the "all applications are running all of the time" experience. This is done by keeping track of the parts of the application the user is aware of (the Activities), and re-starting them with information about the last state they were seen in. This last state is generated each time the user leaves that part of the application, not when it is killed, so that the kernel can later freely kill it without depending on the application to respond correctly at that point.
And based on this, the SGS3's handling memory managment just like the One X so there don't appear to be a lot of options for those with special multitasking needs.
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The GS3 has the same multitasking "issue" as the One X. I have tested it. That's all the more reason why I don't expect HTC to fix it in an update. I believe it's how the manufacturers intend it to work, for better or worse.
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Try to install Apex launcher free version and set it as default launcher. Reboot and see is situation get better. If works for you then it is sense problem.
It works like a charm on my X. No any problem for multitask.And it is so smooth.
Of course if you do want sense launcher then have to live with issue. But no harm to try Apex to see at least multitask can wrok or not
BarryH_GEG everything looks nice when you write it down like that but i remember SGS did better multitasking then my new double ram HTC One X, on daily basis it kills everything when i9000 never killed my GG chatting app or music player - both just should be ON all the time i was using them thats only 2 apps to handle
At a co-workers urging I installed Go-launcher today in hopes of a quick fix. yeah nothing, still re-renders everything fricken thing it touches.
Should I stil try Apex ?
Apex so far is best launcher for one X. I used it for 1 month. If it is not work for you I will post another solution which may help.
Apex- ok you might be on to something !
Can still hold app data while in airplane mode...
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the One X any open browser page or related app becomes a useless blank page when airplane mode is switched on.
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If your rooted then flash Jan's Advance Notification toggle to enable Airplane Mode it will retain the webpage because you're not going into a different app.
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At a co-workers urging I installed Go-launcher today in hopes of a quick fix. yeah nothing, still re-renders everything fricken thing it touches.
Should I stil try Apex ?
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I dont think this is caused by sense taking up too much resources. Seems to be an ics inherent thing. The sgs3 was just reported to behave the same way.
Oh yes i tried the ipad3 the other day. The display was perfect but what surprises me is it multitasks amazingly well. I can have 5 - 6 apps open including youtube and browser with multiple tabs and it switches between them smoothly without once quiting the browser. Really sad to see android/ ics regressed to this state that ios significantly beat it.
if it is ics problem why I can use mutlitask on my one X?
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BarryH_GEG everything looks nice when you write it down like that but i remember SGS did better multitasking then my new double ram HTC One X, on daily basis it kills everything when i9000 never killed my GG chatting app or music player - both just should be ON all the time i was using them thats only 2 apps to handle
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I keep asking the question "what does it mean?" and everyone keeps replying "it shouldn't be this way." If a doctor says "there’s something wrong with your liver," there's a big difference between hepatitis A and stage 3 cancer. Other than the perceived loss of something you had how does the way that the One X handles multitasking affect what you do every day? And how often is it a problem?
I had a i9100 and in practical use I don't notice a difference. The exception being the browser that stupidly reloads itself every time it restarts but it does that regardless of whether launched from recent apps or directly from the app drawer or a shortcut.
And if this is true it doesn't really matter what a Desire, HD2, or SGS did.
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The GS3 has the same multitasking "issue" as the One X. I have tested it. That's all the more reason why I don't expect HTC to fix it in an update. I believe it's how the manufacturers intend it to work, for better or worse.
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