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Safe way to change ROM

Currently have the Modaco R3 ROM which i installed a while ago but now looking to install the Modaco Froyo ROM.
When i first changed the ROM, it was done via this way, http://nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/05/how-to-root-your-htc-desire/
But i have now been told that i can safely do it via ROM manager. Is this correct?
Here is a link to it, http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...d-phone-with-rom-manager-full-backup-restore/
I presume i just copy the ROM file to the SD and select it via ROM manager? Also is it ok if i untick WIPE DATA AND CACHE as i dont want to loose anything?
thanks

Think i may have found my answer, http://nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/07/how-to-upgrade-your-desire-to-stock-android-2-2-froyo/
The only question is in that guide, the radio is also flashed, do i have to do this?

325i. said:
The only question is in that guide, the radio is also flashed, do i have to do this?
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If the ROM you want to install uses a higher version of the radio you have installed, you should also flash it in order to fully enjoy your new ROM without problems.
You can check which version of radio you have by turning on the HTC using the power and volume - buttons at the same time.

Thanks, all sorted now. Used ROM manager which was really easy.

what is the best

which is the best custom rom 7.0.0 / 7.0.2 or 7.0.3? which is the best radio cause i understerstood that i need to flash the radio to make the gps work, please help
and a tutorial for flashing the radio?

If you are going to stick with a Stable version, go for 7.0.3. As for radio, there are 3 versions, one ending in 20.10, one ending in 19.25 and one with 15.31. It is recommended to flash the one with 19.25. It can be downloaded here:
http://rom.tat.tw/wildfire/wildpuzzlerom/radio/Radio_13.53.55.24H_3.35.19.25.zip
Flashing a Radio is same as flashing a ROM Zip file. Go to Recovery > Install Zip from SDCard and choose the above Zip. However, there are a few basic differences :
- Radio's can only be flashed in Clockworkmod 2.x. If you have followed the many tutorials around, you will probably have Clockworkmod 3.x, and wont be able to flash the Radio.
- To overcome this, when you install CM, you will have an app called ROM Manager. Open it, Click Install Clockworkmod Recovery inside the app. It will install v2.5
- Once install is complete, select Reboot into Recovery from within the ROM Manager app.You will then boot into Clockworkmod 2.5 and will be able to flash radios successfully.
Pointers for flashing a radio
- Make sure you have sufficient battery charge
- Do NOT interrupt the process at all. It's sensitive

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- Radio's can only be flashed in Clockworkmod 2.x. If you have followed the many tutorials around, you will probably have Clockworkmod 3.x, and wont be able to flash the Radio.
- To overcome this, when you install CM, you will have an app called ROM Manager. Open it, Click Install Clockworkmod Recovery inside the app. It will install v2.5
- Once install is complete, select Reboot into Recovery from within the ROM Manager app.You will then boot into Clockworkmod 2.5 and will be able to flash radios successfully.
Pointers for flashing a radio
- Make sure you have sufficient battery charge
- Do NOT interrupt the process at all. It's sensitive
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i din't find the install clockworkmod recovery option inside the app ...
l.e: did it. 10x a lot

It says up top Flash ClockworkMod Recovery.

My radio ends with 20.10 and GPS works just fine. Should I still flash the recommended radio? Do you have any idea what the differences are?

No, if GPS works fine, leave it. Flashing radios should be avoided really, unless absolutely necessary.

thearif said:
My radio ends with 20.10 and GPS works just fine. Should I still flash the recommended radio? Do you have any idea what the differences are?
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Anyway realize that u have the latest radio and u r thinking of flashing a previous radio.
Flashing radio is not recommended unless u have issues with it. It has the potential of bricking the phone when interrupted. Radio has the secure flag.
The wildfires which has been rooted after alpharevX must be having radio ending with 20.10 because they are made s-off from stock froyo AFAIK. In such case when no issues, donot reflash the radio.
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Best ClockWork Rom Manager Version For Desire?

Best ClockWork Rom Manager Version For Desire?
okay i used the latest original untouched once yesterday installed perfectly, however after doing a backup it crashed on htc start up loop. i opened recovery and re flashed my backup all worked okay but am now wondering what if something happens when installing a custom rom. what is the best version to use.
thanks

Easiest, and safest way to flash is via your recovery from boot (ClockworkMod/AmonRa etc). ROM Manager itself has seen many issues recently and many people advise to stay clear of it until it's totally stable.

xybadog said:
Easiest, and safest way to flash is via your recovery from boot (ClockworkMod/AmonRa etc). ROM Manager itself has seen many issues recently and many people advise to stay clear of it until it's totally stable.
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thanks fot the info, shall i uninstall my rom manager than or shall i leave it and just use it from hboot. if i install it will it still be in my recovery in hboot also am confused is clockwork and tom manager not the same thing
thanks

kuljit55 said:
thanks fot the info, shall i uninstall my rom manager than or shall i leave it and just use it from hboot. if i install it will it still be in my recovery in hboot also am confused is clockwork and tom manager not the same thing
thanks
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ROM Manager is made by ClockworkMod devs. It's an application, a standalone app whereas ClockworkMod is a recovery and this is what you would use to flash the ROM. If you have ClockworkMod as your recovery you flash a new ROM using this procedure:
Do this first to backup your existing ROM in case anything goes wrong.
Then do this to flash your new recovery.
Hopefully everything should go okay.
EDIT: You can leave ROM Manager where it is, it won't affect anything you do in the above procedures and you may find that your new ROM doesn't package it anyway so you won't have it anyway.

for me 3.0.0.5 was the best for desire

AssassinSvK said:
for me 3.0.0.5 was the best for desire
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I've got 4.2.0.2 but I can't comment because I've not used it yet but I know I successfully partitioned my SD to ext3 using the version you mention (only because I couldn't get gparted to work).

Thinking about rooting

i got a US cellular HTC desire with 2.2
im thinking about rooting my phone.
i heard that the unrevoked method is the easiest to use..
i read a few guides on that.. seems pretty straight forward cant mess that up.
after i root i would like to flash a custom rom..
what is a good app or program to use to back up my phone? what are some good roms? what is the best way to flash a ROM.
i read the guides here and they confuse me as i read many ways to do this. just want the easiest way to do it and get it done right.

Try ClockworkMod ROM Manager
ROM Manager is really easy to use and it can also backup your ROM ...it can also help you browse/download other ROMs.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
Follow the link above...
I rooted for the first time the other day just following the instructions in the link.
The uploader has included video's and links on where to download everything you'll need.
Happy rooting...

zedmarcus said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
Follow the link above...
I rooted for the first time the other day just following the instructions in the link.
The uploader has included video's and links on where to download everything you'll need.
Happy rooting...
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i have hboot 1.06 so not sure what to do...
do i have to do steps 4 and 5?
my friend said this is how i should do it?http://theunlockr.com/2010/09/20/how-to-root-the-htc-desire-unrevoked-method/
i wanna do it but the right way and the easy so i dont brick my phone

With unrevoked you cannot root your phone yet. You have to use the alpharev x.
Swyped from Oxygen with Transparent XDA App

xxdesire5044XXX said:
i have hboot 1.06 so not sure what to do...
do i have to do steps 4 and 5?
my friend said this is how i should do it?http://theunlockr.com/2010/09/20/how-to-root-the-htc-desire-unrevoked-method/
i wanna do it but the right way and the easy so i dont brick my phone
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I dunno about unrevoked working on that hboot but I know that revolutionary does. However that only gets you S-OFF, then you have to flash recovery (or you can have it flashed in the process), with which you may flash another ROM.
always remember to do a nandroid backup though!
Also, you having a CDMA desire makes things a bit tougher... for example you can't use the different Hboots from alpharev as they will brick your phone.. and don't quote me on this buy all ROMs may not work on it.

so i guess i wont root my phone... really dont wanna take a chance of bricking my phone. unless theres a very easy way to do it with a slim to none chance of error

so what can i do?

no it's absolutely safe for you to S-OFF.. so don't have to worry about that, just that there are less things available for the BravoC than the Bravo e.g. not all ROMs support BravoC (I know Cyanogenmod does)
Once you've S-OFF'd and flashed recovery (you are prompted whether you would like to flash recovery in the S-OFF process, select yes) you can just flash a custom ROM. Just always remember to do a nandroid backup before you flash anything!!!, and it's also good to do a full wipe before flashing, as you don't get crap from previous ROM (ofc. back it up before you wipe it lol)

MatDrOiD said:
With unrevoked you cannot root your phone yet. You have to use the alpharev x.
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It looks like he's on froyo so he should be able to root using unrevoked fine, no?
[EDIT] oops I just noticed his hboot version, my bad
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timmaaa said:
It looks like he's on froyo so he should be able to root using unrevoked fine, no?
[EDIT] oops I just noticed his hboot version, my bad
Sent from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA Premium App
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thats his hboot version because he has a BravoC, which has a different hboot version.. that's why I'm unsure whether unrevoked would work (I mean yes, it works on BravoC but I don't know what version/ hboot etc. so It'd be safer to S-OFF, flash recovery, then flash ROM, instead of rooting with unrevoked and flashing recovery through that... get what I mean?)

is there a step by step guide for that?

download revolutionary, turn on USB debugging on your phone, plug it in via USB and run revolutionary (following the process on their sit, all it is, is entering the beta key which is given to you, after that everything is done for you)
During the process, you are prompted whether you wish to install clockworkmod recovery, choose yes (unless you would like to install a better recovery choose no, and I'll continue the guide for that )
If you chose yes to flash recovery while using revolutionary, then skip this step, and any of the lime coloured writing, if you chose no, then follow on and ignore any orange coloured writing.
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Download this recovery, and put it in c:\
Download the attached fastboot.zip, and unpack it into c:\
Open cmd and type:
Code:
cd\
fastboot erase recovery
fastboot flash recovery c:\recovery-RA-desire-v2.0.0.img
fastboot oem gencheckpt
Note: the last command will boot you into recovery
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Whether you chose to flash clockworkmod recovery in the S-OFF'ing process, or you flashed the Ra Desire recovery in the process I told you about, either way, you should now have a functioning recovery.
>From here, you need to make a nandroid backup (from backup & restore) of your stock, unrooted ROM.
>Once you've got the backup if you're in clockworkmod go to mounts and storage, format boot, format system, format userdata, format cache, go to advanced settings and format dalvic cache.
>If you're in Ra Desire, go to wipe, and select wipe all user data.
>Once you've backed up, and wiped your phone, proceed to install a ROM of your choice from the SD-card. If you are using clockworkmod, choose the install zip from sdcard, flash zip from sd-card, then choose a ROM you downloaded.
>If you're in Ra Desire, go to flash zip from sd-card and install the ROM
Hope that helped you, and hope it's not too confusing for you with all the colour coding and stuff lol

sounds pretty easy.. how do i go bout flashing a rom and what is a good rom that will work with my phone?
on the backup goto back and restore and select back up?
how do i restore once i have a new rom on my phone?
nothing is deleted from my phone till i flash?

xxdesire5044XXX said:
sounds pretty easy.. how do i go bout flashing a rom and what is a good rom that will work with my phone?
on the backup goto back and restore and select back up?
how do i restore once i have a new rom on my phone?
nothing is deleted from my phone till i flash?
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yes, you just select backup and it backs itself up.
If you would like to restore, then you do a full wipe, go to backup and restore, select restore and choose which backup you would like to restore
no, nothing is deleted until you flash
to flash a ROM, like I said in the guide:
>Once you've backed up, and wiped your phone, proceed to install a ROM of your choice from the SD-card. If you are using clockworkmod, choose the install zip from sdcard, flash zip from sd-card, then choose a ROM you downloaded.
>If you're in Ra Desire, go to flash zip from sd-card and install the ROM
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when you select that option, it will take you into a menu with everything in your sd-card, you just have to find where you put the ROM you want, and select it with the trackpad, it will flash itself, then reboot.
This will work on your phone. I'm 110% Sure http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices/htc-desire-cdma

so i back up my phone before i flash and after the flash do i restore to get everything back to how it was but with the new rom?

xxdesire5044XXX said:
so i back up my phone before i flash and after the flash do i restore to get everything back to how it was but with the new rom?
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nonnoo you don't restore after flashing.. When you flash a different ROM, you flash a completely different version of Android, that developers have changed/modded. You perform a backup in order to be able to go BACK to your old ROM, if you don't like your new one, or if something goes wrong with it. You only restore when you want to go back to your previous ROM.

bortak said:
nonnoo you don't restore after flashing.. When you flash a different ROM, you flash a completely different version of Android, that developers have changed/modded. You perform a backup in order to be able to go BACK to your old ROM, if you don't like your new one, or if something goes wrong with it. You only restore when you want to go back to your previous ROM.
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is there a way to copy all my messages and apps and stuff like that?
i know some roms dont come with the google apps how do i get those?
what is the best rom out of those three? there any pics of how they look?

very right I almost forgot about the google apps.
cyanogenmod doesn't come with them, download this and flash it in the same way you would the ROM (WITHOUT WIPING ANYTHING!!) http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_Version/Google_Apps
You can usually find screenshots of most ROMs.. so it's just about doing some research.
and you can use an app called sms backup+ from the market.
I'd suggest backing up your contacts too! or moving them to the sim card

ok thank you sooo much for your help ill pm you if i have any questions

[Q] Help! Stuck on white HTC screen after installing root!

So I installed CWM recovery, and installed the rmk root setup zip. Before I installed it, I wiped the cache but not the Dalvik cache. When I rebooted, it hung on the white HTC screen. I went back into recovery and wiped dalvik cache, cache and even data and settings, then installed the zip again and it still hangs. can somebody help me? Honestly at this point I just want to be able to use my phone again.
Thanks in advance

Did you install the root zip that included the froyo stock kernel? I made the same mistake. Just have to adb a compatible 2.3 kernel into your sdcard and flash it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160745
i'm pretty sure this is the zip i used. if thats what you're talking about, then how do I fix it?

You cant use that .zip because it uses the Froyo kernal which is incompatible. You have to push jcase's GB kernal to your sd card then flash that.

I'm sorry for the stupid question, and thank you so much for your help, but where can i find that? and what commands do I use to push the kernel to the phone?

Have no fear as long as you can get into CWM then you are still good.
How long does it hang, sometimes it takes a few minutes for that HTC screen to go away, especially if you wiped data. you might want to wait, a little bit.
You can always download a stock rom(jcase plainjane rom), get into CWM, and then mount your USB to be able to install from your computer, and then flash the new rom.
Did you make a backup before you flashed the update, you can always recover.

DalekCaan said:
I'm sorry for the stupid question, and thank you so much for your help, but where can i find that? and what commands do I use to push the kernel to the phone?
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If you can get into CWM, look for Mounts/Storage and mount your USB so you can access your Phones SD card from your computer, then transfer the file from your computer to your phone.
or use adb if you are familiar with that.

you did get S-Off first right?

yes i have s-off, no i did not make a recovery (i wasnt aware i could do that before i rooted but i have come to terms with the fact that I lost a bunch of data).
okay, so i put the file on my sd card and... what? is it a zip file? where can i find it?
just so i understand, once I get this rooted kernel, i will be rooted and i will be able to install the cwm app and go from there?

and i don't necessarily want the stock rooted... i guess i could go from there but for right now could i download a 2.3 kernel with a different rom? are kernels bundled with roms or do i need to install them separately?
sorry, i'm a new user so i keep having to wait 5 minutes...

Kernels, can be rom specific or bundled but currently for the dinc2 there arent a lot so make sure it doesnt say it belongs to a specific rom otherwise it might not work.
Jcase has a stock kernel and rom he put up a while back for gingerbread.
They will be a .zip file and all you have to do is using recovery choose zip file and run it, since you already deleted everything.
When you install a rom, it will add su and busybox, and root your phone. You need your phone rooted to be able to do anything, after S-off.
if you have recovery installed then you have CWM and really what you want is Rom Manager to do backups.

can i flash the tiamat kernel? do i still have an OS? will that fix things?

DalekCaan said:
can i flash the tiamat kernel? do i still have an OS? will that fix things?
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tiamat kernel is an AOSP kernel. for CM7/MIUI/OM(F)GB
you'll get bootloops if you flash it on a sense rom.

so should i flash that, then flash something like MIUI? can i do that? and do i have to wipe data/cache/dalvik before the kernel AND before i install MIUI?
thanks

DalekCaan said:
so should i flash that, then flash something like MIUI? can i do that? and do i have to wipe data/cache/dalvik before the kernel AND before i install MIUI?
thanks
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I would get a Rom working first which is your OS, the kernel jut says how it should run.

but apparently i have a froyo kernel installed right now? how should I fix that?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1191836
here is a link for a gingerbread kernel...try that first

dj_wires said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1191836
here is a link for a gingerbread kernel...try that first
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If you install a new rom, it will overwrite whatever kernel you have, so you might just want to install this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161411
this is the first gingerbread rom i used...not a lot to it.

I'll try that thank you so much! i just have to go to "install zip from sd card" once i put it on my sd card?

DalekCaan said:
I'll try that thank you so much! i just have to go to "install zip from sd card" once i put it on my sd card?
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Yup!
Good Luck!