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If I missed a thread where this was solved then sorry, but I can't believe the only way to CID unlock the Dash is to pay some website 38 bucks for the "service". If they have the software to do it, then why don't we? The whole thing seems ridiculous...
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If I missed a thread where this was solved then sorry, but I can't believe the only way to CID unlock the Dash is to pay some website 38 bucks for the "service". If they have the software to do it, then why don't we? The whole thing seems ridiculous...
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or, you could just pay the 41 bucks US and quit worrying about it. Like you, I waited and waited. Easier just to pay the cash and get on with your life instead of wasting a lot of time constantly checking for the free solution.
Since there is at least a solution, I'm sure nobody is working on it nearly as hard as if there were no solution available. IMEI-CHECK (as much as I don't particularly care for them personally) have permanently bricked a few devices to find out the HTC solution and are now in a position to charge whatever they feel they can get. Not a single other unlocking service can do it so it can't be all that easy.
My .02
Huh IMEI-CHECK now require you to email them a scanned photo id, either your passport or driving license after you have paid, and don't mention this before hand. So its no-longer an instant CID unlock. So if you have an S620 it might be worth skipping the current WM6 beta and waiting a bit longer for a free solution.
Dear IMEI-CHECK customer,
Due to the increase in paypal frauds we have to increase our verifications.
Because you are a new user we need to verify you.
How to become verified user:
1. Please email us a copy from a photographic id (passport or driving licence) which will match the same name and address used on the paypal account.
2. You are a previous customer who ordered at least 2 months ago without having any reversed payments from paypal
Regards,
IMEI-CHECK Team
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They did verify me within an hour of me sending a photo of a gas bill so I guess thats pretty good. But even after CID unlocking the WM6 upgrade still says INVALID MODEL ID. So you need to follow the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295845
What? Are the legally allowed to collect such information?
what is rediculous is you expecting someone to spend their time to break the lock so that you can flash your phone to a rom that wasnt originally designed for your phone when you bought it, and to make this solution easily available for you to access, and for them to do it for free. move out of home and join the real world. you should thank them for finding a solution and only charging a modest amount.
if you cant afford to put gas in your car, dont buy one
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what is rediculous is you expecting someone to spend their time to break the lock so that you can flash your phone to a rom that wasnt originally designed for your phone when you bought it, and to make this solution easily available for you to access, and for them to do it for free. move out of home and join the real world. you should thank them for finding a solution and only charging a modest amount.
if you cant afford to put gas in your car, dont buy one
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I dont think it's rediculous since we got the Hermes free unlocker in this forum months ago already. Guess you would change your thinking when you know more in the forum, at least you will not be so confident as above.
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I dont think it's rediculous since we got the Hermes free unlocker in this forum months ago already. Guess you would change your thinking when you know more in the forum, at least you will not be so confident as above.
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If you want a free unlocker, then make one yourself. If you don't know how, then don't complain that there isn't a free unlocker
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If you want a free unlocker, then make one yourself. If you don't know how, then don't complain that there isn't a free unlocker
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Thats dumb and a waste of effort. The person who figured out the hermes CID unlock could easily apply the same technique to the excalibur -they just don't own one. I'm sure he would have worked with us if we all offered to donate the £20 we gave to imei-check or might have even done it for free had he known the situation with WM6 and CID. I think someone else profitting from our hobby of playing with different ROMs is totally wrong.
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If you want a free unlocker, then make one yourself. If you don't know how, then don't complain that there isn't a free unlocker
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1, It is not me who 'complain' here.
2, I can image all the free applications you are using are purely made by you
3, Pls go through as much information as you can in this great forum before you try to challenge, I am tired to such kind of style.
IMEI-CHECK
I would be careful sending photo ID and other persoan information to a company that cannot protect their company from fraud. How can you ensure that your information will not compromised and used elsewhere.Just my 02. of caution.
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They did verify me within an hour of me sending a photo of a gas bill so I guess thats pretty good. But even after CID unlocking the WM6 upgrade still says INVALID MODEL ID. So you need to follow the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295845
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1, It is not me who 'complain' here.
2, I can image all the free applications you are using are purely made by you
3, Pls go through as much information as you can in this great forum before you try to challenge, I am tired to such kind of style.
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Yeah. I'm a hypocrite!
Problem: HTC Tornado... I wanted to have the screen dim all the time
Solution: I wrote the completely free application, Tornado PowerControl
Problem: HTC Tornado/HTC Excalibur... I wanted to be able to overclock the CPU based on CPU usage
Solution: I added that feature to Tornado PowerControl
Problem: I wanted to convert the old nokia RTTTL ringtones into MIDI format., as well as to other monophonic phones
Solution: I wrote the completely free application Tones4All
http://merwin.bespin.org/t4a
Problem: I wanted to be able to convert said RTTTL ringtones into said formats without downloading any applications
Solution: I wrote the completely free web-application, Tones4All PHP
http://merwin.bespin.org/t4aphp
In conclusion:
Yeah... I do nothing to help the community, or to create solutions myself.
merwin said:
Yeah. I'm a hypocrite!
Problem: HTC Tornado... I wanted to have the screen dim all the time
Solution: I wrote the completely free application, Tornado PowerControl
Problem: HTC Tornado/HTC Excalibur... I wanted to be able to overclock the CPU based on CPU usage
Solution: I added that feature to Tornado PowerControl
Problem: I wanted to convert the old nokia RTTTL ringtones into MIDI format., as well as to other monophonic phones
Solution: I wrote the completely free application Tones4All
http://merwin.bespin.org/t4a
Problem: I wanted to be able to convert said RTTTL ringtones into said formats without downloading any applications
Solution: I wrote the completely free web-application, Tones4All PHP
http://merwin.bespin.org/t4aphp
In conclusion:
Yeah... I do nothing to help the community, or to create solutions myself.
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well you owe it to every person that likes to install 3rd party software on their phone to write these programs.....lol
we all come to these forums because we like tinkering with our devices and trying different things. i am gratefull to all of the people with techinical knowledge that spend their time extracting roms and writing free programs that i can use. if i had the know-how i would do it to. what pisses me off is the people that think it is their god given right to be able to access this kind of info for free. i cant believe someone actually said that we should donate the money imei-check charges to the guy that wrote the free unlock program for the hermes instead of paying imei-check. either way you are paying for it. most hobbies cost money, whether it be the cost of materials or products (paints, canvas, models, remote controlled devices, etc) that are used while enjoying your hobby.
i am not saying that i wouldnt take advantage of a free solution, i am just saying it is rude to expect and demand one. i have paid for their services twice and it was well worth it both times as i was able to change roms on my qtek 8500 that was missing calls and now i am able to use the wm6 rom on a different device because someone was nice enough to give us access to it. i believe that some things are worth paying for, especially when it allows me to do something or use something that i enjoy. some of you believe that it is wrong to pay someone for their time and expertise and open threads demanding a free product while the rest of use enjoy our different roms. if you stand behind your beliefs i can respect that too, though
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well you owe it to every person that likes to install 3rd party software on their phone to write these programs.....lol
we all come to these forums because we like tinkering with our devices and trying different things. i am gratefull to all of the people with techinical knowledge that spend their time extracting roms and writing free programs that i can use. if i had the know-how i would do it to. what pisses me off is the people that think it is their god given right to be able to access this kind of info for free. i cant believe someone actually said that we should donate the money imei-check charges to the guy that wrote the free unlock program for the hermes instead of paying imei-check. either way you are paying for it. most hobbies cost money, whether it be the cost of materials or products (paints, canvas, models, remote controlled devices, etc) that are used while enjoying your hobby.
i am not saying that i wouldnt take advantage of a free solution, i am just saying it is rude to expect and demand one. i have paid for their services twice and it was well worth it both times as i was able to change roms on my qtek 8500 that was missing calls and now i am able to use the wm6 rom on a different device because someone was nice enough to give us access to it. i believe that some things are worth paying for, especially when it allows me to do something or use something that i enjoy. some of you believe that it is wrong to pay someone for their time and expertise and open threads demanding a free product while the rest of use enjoy our different roms. if you stand behind your beliefs i can respect that too, though
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You said it better than I ever could have! I'm sure that imei-check bricked more than a couple phones making their solutions, and they deserve to be compensated for their hard work
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i cant believe someone actually said that we should donate the money imei-check charges to the guy that wrote the free unlock program for the hermes instead of paying imei-check. either way you are paying for it. most hobbies cost money, whether it be the cost of materials or products (paints, canvas, models, remote controlled devices, etc) that are used while enjoying your hobby.
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You misunderstood me. Only the people willing to fund the development pay, once its done the rest get it for free. This is a typical scenario for software development where the creator doesn't directly benefit from the creation of the software (he doesn't own the device in question), but with it comes the recognition of the one who was successful in making it. If the recognition isn't enough then thats when cash gets involved. From the beginning XDA Devs, and SPV Devs for that matter always sought their own implementation of things to further their skills and learn more about our devices and how they work. I don't see anything positive in supporting imei-check.
Heres something for you to read
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html
And like I said, he probably didn't even know there is the need for a CID unlocked for the Excalibur. AND, with your opinion that no-one on this forum should ever ask for anything I don't see how he would ever find out.
Eric S. Raymond writes in The Cathedral and the Bazaar: "Every good work of software starts by scratching a developer's personal itch."
So, I will try to cause some itching now:
Excalibur uses Samsung OneNAND chip, itsme developed a tool to access the non-OS sections of the chip, ie: where the CID area is stored.
The simlock data is stored on the first 0x20000 bytes of the gsmsection.
Wouldn't it be easy to dump CID & SimLock area before unlocking, pay for imei-check's unlocker and dump CID & SimLock area after unlocking and then compare?
If everyone unlocking provides this information, someone will come with a solution sooner or later...
Theres more about that here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285003&highlight=bkondisk
and it being used to unlock the StrTrk:
http://www.spv-developers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6581
But it doesn't mention how they obtained the decryption key for the StrTrk or how to find it for the Excalibur. Unless I missed that.
Despite the stuff about decryption I dumped using bkondisk as you said and found my SuperCID (31 31 31 31 31 31 31) at 0x2a0dc
The command I used was:
prun bkondisk -v0 -b0 -n500 \firstblock.img
But that dumped more bytes than you need. Also since the CID among a bunch of other strings so I doubt this is the right place.
indiekiduk said:
You misunderstood me. Only the people willing to fund the development pay, once its done the rest get it for free. This is a typical scenario for software development where the creator doesn't directly benefit from the creation of the software (he doesn't own the device in question), but with it comes the recognition of the one who was successful in making it. If the recognition isn't enough then thats when cash gets involved. From the beginning XDA Devs, and SPV Devs for that matter always sought their own implementation of things to further their skills and learn more about our devices and how they work. I don't see anything positive in supporting imei-check.
Heres something for you to read
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html
And like I said, he probably didn't even know there is the need for a CID unlocked for the Excalibur. AND, with your opinion that no-one on this forum should ever ask for anything I don't see how he would ever find out.
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This is exactly what I was thinking. The reason why we come here is for sharing, applications, information etc. So far I don't see any superman can write whatever he needs by himself thus he could proudly shout to others who expect a freeware.
I am using Firefox, it is free, I never feel guity to expect the next more powerful version --even though I really could not write one by myself.
What a dope
Before you start patting yourself on the back, I have tried your so-called progam Tornado Power Control. I have decided to place it in my junk Mobile apps folder, soon to be deleted. And please quit whining..it is very unbecoming.
merwin said:
Yeah. I'm a hypocrite!
Problem: HTC Tornado... I wanted to have the screen dim all the time
Solution: I wrote the completely free application, Tornado PowerControl
Problem: HTC Tornado/HTC Excalibur... I wanted to be able to overclock the CPU based on CPU usage
Solution: I added that feature to Tornado PowerControl
Problem: I wanted to convert the old nokia RTTTL ringtones into MIDI format., as well as to other monophonic phones
Solution: I wrote the completely free application Tones4All
http://merwin.bespin.org/t4a
Problem: I wanted to be able to convert said RTTTL ringtones into said formats without downloading any applications
Solution: I wrote the completely free web-application, Tones4All PHP
http://merwin.bespin.org/t4aphp
In conclusion:
Yeah... I do nothing to help the community, or to create solutions myself.
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Hi
Could someone list some free phone unlocking softwares.
Friends and family always ask me to unlock phones for them, usually they are cheap phones, not really high tech and can be unlocked easily for free, but its a pain looking for the free software among all the websites that ask for payment.
So was hoping if a few free softwares could be listed by a few people here, it would make my life a lot easier. So far i've found aerix (i knew a nokia one a few years back, but have forgotten it now ).
Thanks to anyone that can help.
come on, anyone?
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articoceanic said:
Hi
Could someone list some free phone unlocking softwares.
Friends and family always ask me to unlock phones for them, usually they are cheap phones, not really high tech and can be unlocked easily for free, but its a pain looking for the free software among all the websites that ask for payment.
So was hoping if a few free softwares could be listed by a few people here, it would make my life a lot easier. So far i've found aerix (i knew a nokia one a few years back, but have forgotten it now ).
Thanks to anyone that can help.
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I have read at least 50 disinformation type posts on this site about unlocking a branded Xperia (Verizion in my case) they all seem to be wanting me to pay money to Alejandrissimo or Jinx13 but when I click on those hyperlinks they are all "Invalid post" so what am I supposed to be finding here that I missed?
There is not any topic stickied that is describing how to unlock the thing & every article / forum post / google search I find is another disinformation post with no real evidence.
I know how to flash ROM's onto android using recovery loaders.
I know how to access the program menu's in various phones
I know what the CDMA spectrum is.
I'm not some newb making this post because I need my hand held step by step to do something.
I just need some real information
If anyone has a link to a real method or anything helpful please let me know
I have researched (and watched the welcome video) on this site to find an answer and I haven't found anything.
Thanks
-Jon
Ok, so the links to the unlockers in my thread are broken. Does it mean that my post has "disinformation"? Is there any other way to unlock the bootloaders? No to both, as far as I know. I'll try to fix the links, but seriously...
About why my post (or any other helpful resource about the matter) is not stickied, I don't know nor do I care. No one reads stickies anyway.
Logseman said:
Ok, so the links to the unlockers in my thread are broken. Does it mean that my post has "disinformation"? Is there any other way to unlock the bootloaders? No to both, as far as I know. I'll try to fix the links, but seriously...
About why my post (or any other helpful resource about the matter) is not stickied, I don't know nor do I care. No one reads stickies anyway.
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By disinformation it would seem that some exists.
droid-life reported 4 months ago ashergray(XDA) found a method to unlock the bootloader.
Why none of the methods being released or talked about is beyond me.
Also I'm confused why the method is being charged for by others but not officially it would seem.
You have to pm users on the forum to arrange a sale. Why does a topic not exist for this purpose?
All this confusing data is leading to a big headache right now. I was hoping for answers and all I find is rabbit holes on this elusive topic.
Thanks for the reply tho.
Ashergray's method was dried out (it exploited a flaw, and the flaw was fixed).I mention ashergray in the thread, as it is only fitting, in the thanks part.
About why they ask to be contacted privately or publicly, it's their business... Is there something that should be cleared in my thread, aside of the links of course? I mean, I can try to rebuild the first post if necessary.
Logseman said:
Ashergray's method was dried out (it exploited a flaw, and the flaw was fixed).I mention ashergray in the thread, as it is only fitting, in the thanks part.
About why they ask to be contacted privately or publicly, it's their business... Is there something that should be cleared in my thread, aside of the links of course? I mean, I can try to rebuild the first post if necessary.
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You could start off by explaining why in 7 months time the boot loader is sill locked.
Or why your links to the unlock threads are dead. Both of them.
Or how I'm supposed to unlock the bootloader if these users can't provide that service any longer.
Also you could mention why Sony. being developer and hacker supportive hasn't assisted in taking Verizon's clutch off the bootloader
It is rather annoying coming from Droid x where the device is locked down with a fuse but yet a wide array of custom roms exist that bypass the locked bootloader and then coming to this phone that appears to have not progressed beyond hello world.
So you tell me where to look for an unlock because I'm fresh out of searches and ideas.
Thanks
-jon
P.s I also wonder if the exploit you speak of was patched. Why not just flash to an earlier rom with the problem still existing.
You could start off by explaining why in 7 months time the boot loader is sill locked.
Or why your links to the unlock threads are dead. Both of them.
Or how I'm supposed to unlock the bootloader if these users can't provide that service any longer.
Also you could mention why Sony. being developer and hacker supportive hasn't assisted in taking Verizon's clutch off the bootloader
It is rather annoying coming from Droid x where the device is locked down with a fuse but yet a wide array of custom roms exist that bypass the locked bootloader and then coming to this phone that appears to have not progressed beyond hello world.
So you tell me where to look for an unlock because I'm fresh out of searches and ideas.
Thanks
-jon
P.s I also wonder if the exploit you speak of was patched. Why not just flash to an earlier rom with the problem still existing.
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1) I kindly would like to ask how I'm supposed to know why the bootloader is locked. It's a corporate decision by carriers and Sony Ericsson in which neither I, nor anyone in this forum, have any input. If I had any hard data about why Sony Ericsson doesn't cooperate in the issue, I'd say it. However, I just don't know why, and I prefer not to speak of what I don't know.
2) It seems that both threads have been wiped out of existence (which I didn't know until right now), and I see that a new site appears in Alejandrissimo's signature (http://unlock-bootloader.com/) where he's promoting his services externally (not only the unlocking, but the TA fix and hard-brick fix too). I'd guess that somebody complained about these people making business inside XDA, but then I question the idea of wiping their threads like... months afterwards. At any rate, don't worry, you still can unlock your bootloader with Alejandrissimo's help.
3) On Droid X the bootloader was bypassed because Motorola wouldn't ever unlock it. The FreeXperia team, who had bypassed older Xperia models' bootloaders, decided against it as they saw the new policy of Sony Ericsson's (unlocking phones which didn't come with carrier subsidy). I could unlock my bootloader from day one, and I'm happy to say I've helped devs here therethrough.
4) The exploit was related to the website where you could unlock R800i models. In order to unlock your bootloader, you need to give your IMEI number (an ID code for GSM phones). Ashergray could convert MEID numbers used by CDMA phones into bogus IMEI numbers, which could be used to unlock the devices. Sony Ericsson patched the website so ashergray's trick didn't work anymore.
5) My thread is a "how-to", do you really expect me to add points 1), 3) and 4) to it?
4 months is an eternity for this kind of business. Exploits get fixed (look at the PSXperia case), policies change (like HTC's and Motorola's) and threads are wiped on short or no notice.
Logseman said:
1) I kindly would like to ask how I'm supposed to know why the bootloader is locked. It's a corporate decision by carriers and Sony Ericsson in which neither I, nor anyone in this forum, have any input. If I had any hard data about why Sony Ericsson doesn't cooperate in the issue, I'd say it. However, I just don't know why, and I prefer not to speak of what I don't know.
2) It seems that both threads have been wiped out of existence (which I didn't know until right now), and I see that a new site appears in Alejandrissimo's signature where he's promoting his services externally (not only the unlocking, but the TA fix and hard-brick fix too). I'd guess that somebody complained about these people making business inside XDA, but then I question the idea of wiping their threads like... months afterwards. At any rate, don't worry, you still can unlock your bootloader with Alejandrissimo's help.
3) On Droid X the bootloader was bypassed because Motorola wouldn't ever unlock it. The FreeXperia team, who had bypassed older Xperia models' bootloaders, decided against it as they saw the new policy of Sony Ericsson's (unlocking phones which didn't come with carrier subsidy). I could unlock my bootloader from day one, and I'm happy to say I've helped devs here therethrough.
4) The exploit was related to the website where you could unlock R800i models. In order to unlock your bootloader, you need to give your IMEI number (an ID code for GSM phones). Ashergray could convert MEID numbers used by CDMA phones into bogus IMEI numbers, which could be used to unlock the devices. Sony Ericsson patched the website so ashergray's trick didn't work anymore.
5) My thread is a "how-to", do you really expect me to add points 1), 3) and 4) to it?
4 months is an eternity for this kind of business. Exploits get fixed (look at the PSXperia case), policies change (like HTC's and Motorola's) and threads are wiped on short or no notice.
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I've sent you some PM's to remove spam / offtopic / rant from the board.
Thanks for the information tho. I wasn't aware of any of that.
It seems that the name FreeXperia is a bit of a misnomer because my Xperia is going to be locked unless I pay 25$ apparently and thats sad when I only paid 90$ for the phone used. Could have been cheaper if I had bought bad ESN(I probably should have tried)
Imagine my surprise coming from Droid X to this phone where droid X has heaps of ROM's available to everyone for free and now I have to worry about getting this device to function at the same level as my old DX with Gummy JAR rom.
I Just wish the spirit of opensource would be in this sub-forum so we could have some real development in terms of flavors of roms and such.
Do you think their is any reason the developers are all charging fee's to show the method through team viewer? I thought it could have something to do with leaking the method and then it could be fixed in later updates. but then again maybe I'm wrong.
It's not that they "show" you the method. They "perform" the method for you. I'm not sure if you can do it with Omnius as well... but if you can, it will be marginally cheaper (unlocking credits are needed anyway!) and you have no assistance.
And about the old "why charge for open source software" dead horse, which is pointless here because there is no open source software involved (the bootloaders are closed-source, SETool is closed-source, and so on):
The Free Software Foundation said:
“Free software” does not mean “noncommercial.”
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Additionally, as I said before, the FreeXperia team has this policy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15253598&postcount=217
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It's not that they "show" you the method. They "perform" the method for you. I'm not sure if you can do it with Omnius as well... but if you can, it will be marginally cheaper (unlocking credits are needed anyway!) and you have no assistance.
And about the old "why charge for open source software" dead horse, which is pointless here because there is no open source software involved (the bootloaders are closed-source, SETool is closed-source, and so on):
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Right on. I'm following you thus far.
Question tho. I read that sony was the best company for hackers and developers right now because they actually are allowing people to get access to the bootloaders. If all this is true why are they not assisting in the unlock of branded phones?
I might be wrong on this but aren't most peoples phones branded anyways through buying a contract?
and that leads to why FreeXperia didn't realize that and find an exploit / workaround for the bootloader being locked on branded phones.
If Setool and Omnius (or whatever it's called) are able to unlock the phones then why was sony. the engineer of the device not able to perform this same task?
Also I thought locking the bootloader violates the FCC regulation. open access provision so why didn't Sony assist the FCC to bypass Verizon.
God another douche, you pay 90 bucks for your phone and you think this community owes you something. Go complain to sony.
What do you mean, Sony can't do it? Of course they can. But they have chosen to do so only with R800i non-branded phones. Considering that they locked bootloaders without any official way to unlock them on previous Xperia models, that's a big step forward. That's as far as Sony Ericsson can go: on branded phones, they must obey what the carriers want.
Please do read Bin4ry's statement:
Now think about, if we would try to hack and bypass devices what will happen with future phones? In our opinion future phones will be locked down again like X10 was, eventually even more.
So why don't use the possibilties which are give by SE? Stick to their rules and hope for more support and maybe even nicer implementations (for example a accessable bootpartition from recovery).
We like SE devices, so we don't want to hijack this (i call it) "test" which SE drives with us?
I can fully understand that U.S. users which cannot unlock are quite unhappy with the actual situation, but sorry we will NOT work on anything else than development for officially unlocked devices! That was a team decision.
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Note that this is costing them a lot of flak because they don't use R800x models for testing purposes either, and CM7 has many issues in R800x phones.
Also I thought locking the bootloader violates the FCC regulation. open access provision so why didn't Sony assist the FCC to bypass Verizon.
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If this is correct, sue. I'm sure you'll have backing from everyone here.
Logseman said:
What do you mean, Sony can't do it? Of course they can. But they have chosen to do so only with R800i non-branded phones. Considering that they locked bootloaders without any official way to unlock them on previous Xperia models, that's a big step forward. That's as far as Sony Ericsson can go: on branded phones, they must obey what the carriers want.
Please do read Bin4ry's statement:
Note that this is costing them a lot of flak because they don't use R800x models for testing purposes either, and CM7 has many issues in R800x phones.
If this is correct, sue. I'm sure you'll have backing from everyone here.
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So what your saying is that CM7 is not even worth flashing even if i was unlocked?
I would be better off to root / Titanium backup / delete bloat and be done with it?
Its a shame that they are forcing most people to stay stock SE/Verizon ROM because they are scared of the repercussions of angering SE. I think even if they stay inert that SE will eventually add more DRM to "protect" the devices.
About the lawsuit. I don't believe I'm the first person to mention it. Verizon has already been sued for 25 Million i believe on another occasion and it's been said by others that they are breaking FCC Regulation. The problem would be to get something done about it and I wouldn't have those resources.
The reason for the charge is very simple. In order to unlock our version of the Play (R800x), it takes a hardware dongle and the purchase of credits to allow the software to work. All you are paying Al or whoever for is the cost of the number of credits necessary to unlock your phone. They aren't getting rich off anyone.
If there was another way to unlock the Verizon version, someone would have posted it by now. There isn't, and that's just how it is.
There is a good spirit of free info sharing on this site. You might have to do a little digging but it's there. For example, how to unroot the R800x without having an unlocked bootloader. Takes about a whole 5 minutes to do.
EDIT: I do have to say that after digging around a bit more, I don't blame you for being perturbed. While no one owes us Verizon Play owners anything, there could have been something posted and sticky to make it a bit easier to find out what is going on. And perhaps have had a bit less condescension toward us as well. Must be that UK mentality toward us Colonists!
Re: Droid X vs XPlay development -
Different phones from different brands on different carriers require entirely new learning to develop for, not to mention owning a device to work on. I'd say there's probably only about a dozen people worldwide putting in serious work on this phone.
That's not a lot. If you want more options, you may have to do it yourself.
I'm sure this has been asked, but I get a plethora of responses and information dating back to 2009....and I just want to know...as of today. 08/10/2012 is it possible to unlock the Wildfire S? And by unlock, I mean Carrier/SIM provider lock.
All these bastards are charging $10-40 for it, so it has to be possible.....
Its not in my nature to pay for things that could otherwise be obtained for free thou you see...as has been the case with every other cell phone from every other provider i have ever owned. (Namely Nokia's and Blackberry's)
Well get used to paying LOL!!!
Developers don't work for free, Donations mostly, but when they put their time in effort into a solution and don't get donations it sucks, I paid $5.80 to get mine unlocked on Ebay, and I know you "Dont believe in paying for an unlock" well then I suggest you learn how to develop and code, otherwise you are at the mercy of Carrier Supported Unlock,EBAY Payed Unlock, or the generosity of a developer releasing it for free.
Hope I wasn't to hard on ya, Truth must be told though.:laugh:
Check out the HTC super utility from development section I think it has an option for unlocking sim..
check out whether ma thnx button wrkz....
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With all due respects to the sunshine team, the whole idea of S-OFF is to give a free solution to people who want to bypass HTC security, this action by itself is not ''legal'' so making us pay for it is simply not legal and not right in a Android community spirit.
Add to that, some countries like mine don't have paypal to pay it.
So is there any other team or dev working on a free alternative S-OFF?
vegetaleb said:
With all due respects to the sunshine team, the whole idea of S-OFF is to give a free solution to people who want to bypass HTC security, this action by itself is not ''legal'' so making us pay for it is simply not legal and not right in a Android community spirit.
Add to that, some countries like mine don't have paypal to pay it.
So is there any other team or dev working on a free alternative S-OFF?
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The whole idea of S-Off is to allow you to flash various parts of your device that are normally secure and locked to a specific carrier, nothing legal or illegal and the updates are free.
I doubt anyone is developing any S-Off as it has already been done and wouldn't be worth burning another exploit for nothing - not to mention all the hardware that was required to get it done.
There are more ways to pay then just Paypal so talk to the Sunshine team if that is the issue.
Electronic Punk said:
The whole idea of S-Off is to allow you to flash various parts of your device that are normally secure and locked to a specific carrier, nothing legal or illegal and the updates are free.
I doubt anyone is developing any S-Off as it has already been done and wouldn't be worth burning another exploit for nothing - not to mention all the hardware that was required to get it done.
There are more ways to pay then just Paypal so talk to the Sunshine team if that is the issue.
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Sorry but all S-OFF solutions were free on previous phones, breaking this idea is totally wrong.
If someone want to pay for the team for their work it should be optional not mandatory.
I don't see why someone else won't build a free version of S-OFF using the same exploit if many people won't accept the fact to pay 25$, and believe me we are many.
Why won't kernel devs ask for money then? they also risk to brick their phones for us.
Opening a $ door for something that was always free is a vice, again people who feel they want to donate will donate but selling S-OFF like if it was a legal product is totally wrong.
If it was legal then why HTC will take out warranty if you give them your phone with S-OFF?
vegetaleb said:
Sorry but all S-OFF solutions were free on previous phones, breaking this idea is totally wrong.
If someone want to pay for the team for their work it should be optional not mandatory.
I don't see why someone else won't build a free version of S-OFF using the same exploit if many people won't accept the fact to pay 25$, and believe me we are many.
Why won't kernel devs ask for money then? they also risk to brick their phones for us.
Opening a $ door for something that was always free is a vice, again people who feel they want to donate will donate but selling S-OFF like if it was a legal product is totally wrong.
If it was legal then why HTC will take out warranty if you give them your phone with S-OFF?
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Sunshine will NOT run on your device if there is a potential of bricking your device. If one is willing to pay the amount for the device and isn't willing to use sunshine due to having to pay such a small amount is illogical (IMO). If you're skeptical about using PayPal , use a pre paid card. Then again if you are waiting for someone to do all the work for you, I guess you will just have to wait.
So how many time are we going to start this annoying discussion over and over again? (I stopped counting but I guess this must be the 5th or 6th time...)
I think those are the most important posts from the previous discussions:
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Besides there is always the possibility to buy a java card instead of sunhine but I doubt that you will find one that is cheaper than sunshine. Not to forget that S-OFF is nothing which is essential for using your device. Therefore no one forces you to pay 25 bucks.
And as already stated before: There are other ways to pay than using paypal.
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So how many time are we going to start this annoying discussion over and over again? (I stopped counting but I guess this must be the 5th or 6th time...)
I think those are the most important posts from the previous discussions:
Link 1
Link 2
Link 3
Besides there is always the possibility to buy a java card instead of sunhine but I doubt that you will find one that is cheaper than sunshine. Not to forget that S-OFF is nothing which is essential for using your device. Therefore no one forces you to pay 25 bucks.
And as already stated before: There are other ways to pay than using paypal.
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4th time from my count... Hopefully thread will be closed soon
Hopefully?
You are annoyed that people ask that what was free for years is kept free?
You have a curious respect for others opinions.
Besides I asked if another dev is preparing a free alternative as it always used to be, not asking that sunshine team make it free, they will never let down $$ now that a few dudes are paying.
The majority are still waiting for the usual free s-off
Sent from my HTC One M9 using XDA Free mobile app
I'm curious how S-Off was achieved in previous models. My understanding is that it has gotten progressively more difficult as companies try to woo the business sector with greater security on their phones. Samsung's 'Knox' system might be a good example. At some point there must be a threshold after which the work necessary, the financial investment required and the time put in merits some recompense.
While there may be some folks who are able & willing to donate their work, expecting free access to anything we didn't do ourselves isn't reasonable.
Not to forget how easy it is to gain s-off using sunshine without the risk of bricking your device.
If you wanted to use facepalm (just a random example for a free method I used on the HTC One S and the HTC One SV) you first had to hex edit files to gain super CID. Just one tiny mistake and you produced an expensive paperweigth. But risks like this do not exist if you use sunshine.
And I assume that the overall user friendliness of sunshine is the reason why we won't be seeing any other s-off method in the near future.
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Thread has been closed. This has been covered before, there is also a dedicated thread for Sunshine. Please use it for issues. There are also multiple ways you can pay for the service, credit card and bitcoin to name a few.