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Hi guys,
I have to say, compared to my HTC Hero and Modaco 3.2 rom, the battery life on the Desire seems pretty poor to say the least.
Do you have any tips? I know there are mixed views on task killers but whats the general consensus? Seems like every app that gets opened, seems to stay open forever or atleast open in the background on this thing. Is that good or bad?
Does the Gmail app which is push based I believe consume less battery than say the HTC Mail app used to sync about every half an hour?
Have you discovered any particular HTC apps that drain more battery than normal?
I've already disabled Facebook and Friendstream completely, use seperate apps for those.
It just feels like the battery eats away even when the phone is just sat there with the screen off, sure I have 3G on but Twicca is the only thing set to update every half an hour in the background and the Gmail app on push no doubt.
Any tips?
pretty sure if u slightly decrease the brightness of the screen and stop all data connections unless you want to run them will help the battery life
disable live wallpapers
disable auto updates
disable 3G (just for the sake of trying)
decrease the brightness or make it auto (dont put it to the max)
put plain black wallpaper as background (trust me it consumes 40% less than the colored wallpaper, again, do it just for the sake of trying)
try this for one day and see if you get anything different
I have the brightness set really low, don't use live wallpapers.
I would disable 3G but that kind of defeats the purpose of having twitter updates and stuff, one of the main features of the phone.
Just checked and Twicca is only set to update once an hour, this is really weird.
Arthur Hucksake said:
I have the brightness set really low, don't use live wallpapers.
I would disable 3G but that kind of defeats the purpose of having twitter updates and stuff, one of the main features of the phone.
Just checked and Twicca is only set to update once an hour, this is really weird.
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I saw somewhere that you can see what app is draining your battery life in the notification bar, just open the notifications bar and go to battery, and see if you find anything related there
I have the phone for 3 days and I'm still in the stage where I play with it all the time.
Day 1: fully charged at 1PM, used the phone pretty much non-stop till 10PM and finally plugged it in with 3% left;
Day 2: unplugged the phone at 8AM, had it in stand-by for couple hours, then used it non-stop for 2 hours, then 4 more hours of stand-by, then it 2 hours continous use. The rest was more or less stand-by. Plugged it in at 10PM with around 10% left.
Day3: used it quite a bit on and off during the day, still have 34% left.
I don't do any fancy power saving, though I don't like apps updating themselves, except for mail. However, I use WiFi when I can and I listen to podcasts whenever I walk/drive somewhere.
It's a bit too early to draw conclusions, but at this point I'd say that Desire's battery life is much better than G1's (I had 1600 mAh battery).
Of course it all depends on particular use case. Also, maybe the network is spotty in your area - that might drain a lot of battery.
I tried using the app called Light Flow in order to control the LED notification colours, seems to have been draining the battery..anyone else experience this?
Yeah I've noticed something causing my cpu to 'wake' more than it should when it should be idle. I've been thinking it might Light Flow, think I'll uninstall it tonight and see how much I lose overnight.
Don't know whether it's been the updates it has been getting or if it's done it all the time, but I know my battery certainly didn't drain this quickly before when idle.
whyamihere said:
Yeah I've noticed something causing my cpu to 'wake' more than it should when it should be idle. I've been thinking it might Light Flow, think I'll uninstall it tonight and see how much I lose overnight.
Don't know whether it's been the updates it has been getting or if it's done it all the time, but I know my battery certainly didn't drain this quickly before when idle.
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yeah same thing happens to me, in the battery stats Android OS is the main contributor to drain and the CPU Awake time is always pretty high
interesting I havent suffered much noticeable effect on the battery. I juhst crashes every time i reboot the phone.
I disabled it earlier because I was having problems with it flashing after the notification was gone. Didn't notice any extra strain on battery though, although it could have been there.
At the moment it's 1 day 16 min on battery, with 20% Android OS and 5h 38m awake CPU time, is that high? (the Android OS bit/awake time)
Not noticing any drain with Lightflow... I notice that when an email/text comes in the phone wakes up briefly but whether that's Lightflow or normal I don't know... but the phone is asleep from then until I turn it on, even though the LED is flashing away merrily in the meantime. And I looked at this overnight - so getting an alert at maybe 2 or 3am and then actually checking it at 8am or so. Nothing abnormal between 2am and 8am, and noticed no extra battery drain.
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I disabled it earlier because I was having problems with it flashing after the notification was gone. Didn't notice any extra strain on battery though, although it could have been there.
At the moment it's 1 day 16 min on battery, with 20% Android OS and 5h 38m awake CPU time, is that high? (the Android OS bit/awake time)
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Had this problem but I think I understand how it works now.
It will keep flashing if you have "individually" removed the notifications out of the notifications bar. Removing notifications this way doesn't seem to register in Light Flow but you can solve this by:
(a) running that app
(b) hit the "X" button to clear all notifications in the notifications bar.
Can anyone find a way to see if it really is Light Flow that consumes that much battery? I cannot really tell.
Hi.
Light flow will cause some battery drain, but I try to keep it as little as possible.
You will see a fair amount of time partially awake (not the screen on, but showing as awake in the battery usage) because of the app as every time you have more than one outstanding notification (of different colors) the app has to do a partial phone wake to run the alarm manager that changes the color.
There's a few things that can help this, firstly slowing down the frequency of cycling colors ("Notification - battery", in general settings).
Fast = 2.5 seconds
Medium = 5 seconds
Slow = 10 seconds
Very slow = 20 seconds
The other option is just to show the highest priority notification that's currently outstanding - then you'll just get 1 color (e.g. if you have an e-mail, missed call and sms message all outstanding - if you have priority of 1 set on missed call then only that will display of the 3)
Unless you really need them, all the additional light controls in the general settings menu e.g. button backlight, flash etc should be disabled to keep things minimal.
With the latest 2.7.x releases I found (on a nexus one) that the partial wake is for less than 100th of a second on every cycle change (previous version had got to about 400ths of a second)
As for not clearing the notification, at the moment I've got no hooks into swiping away individual notifications from the notification bar so they will keep flashing.
I'm thinking of adding an extra battery saving option where just the most recent notification type is shown as there wouldn't be the need for partial wakes for that.
The good news is I just got a Galaxy Nexus yesterday and after quite some time got the adb drivers working so I'll be looking into seeing what's possible with ICS soon.
So far I've just made one ICS specific change for the next release which is to remove the nag screen on upgrading about restarting accessibility as it seems google have finally sorted out the accessibility bug that caused the need for a restart!
Cheers for the clarification and help, andrewpmoore. Great app.
The option that makes the LED shows only the most recent notifications will be VERY WELCOME! Look forward to the update
Good Job, glad you finally have the handset! can't wait for the next release!
No issues here. I think it really depends on your settings those. Especially the color cycles.
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Good Job, glad you finally have the handset! can't wait for the next release!
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Don't get too excited about the next release. It'll just be a bug fixes one (and the nag removal for ICS)
If there are any devs on here that can work out a way to pick up on the swipe to remove notifications could they get in touch. I've not found anything useful in the accessibility service so far.
Probably didn't see my question in another thread, but can you add a full RGB colour picker? Seeing as it's an RGB LED I assume this is possible, rather than just having the current, fixed, selection of named colours?
Great job andrewpmoore, will definitely use this as soon as my GN arrives
Don't need to worry about battery drain from Light Flow any more andrewpmoore.
I first tried disabling the app then uninstalling, I still had the same battery drain from Android OS, so my problem lies elsewhere.
I've reinstalled Light Flow now, great app!
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Don't need to worry about battery drain from Light Flow any more andrewpmoore.
I first tried disabling the app then uninstalling, I still had the same battery drain from Android OS, so my problem lies elsewhere.
I've reinstalled Light Flow now, great app!
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That's good to know, thanks.
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jabok said:
Probably didn't see my question in another thread, but can you add a full RGB colour picker? Seeing as it's an RGB LED I assume this is possible, rather than just having the current, fixed, selection of named colours?
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It's something I've had on my todo list for a while. It'd be relativley simple for phones line the Nexus One and Galaxy Nexus, the difficult part is fitting it in with the "direct mode" settings and mapping colors between them.
I'll see what I can do.
Light Flow also caused Sleep of Death on my phone. I've uninstalled and all is well now.
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Light Flow also caused Sleep of Death on my phone. I've uninstalled and all is well now.
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same here.. massive battery drain/phone got hot and she went night night.. had to pull battery. uninstalled
Considering other people are getting the sleep of death without Lightflow it seems a little rash to decide that Lightflow is causing it.
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Considering other people are getting the sleep of death without Lightflow it seems a little rash to decide that Lightflow is causing it.
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Add to that the cases where people are using Lightflow and NEVER had the Sleep of Death, it's fair to say Lightflow is not the (sole) cause. It MAY be behaving badly with some other app I guess... but I've been running it since day 2 (18th) and never had the sleepy death thing.
All I can find are vague descriptions. Nothing saying what exactly it's doing. From my experience thus far it's doing nothing. I am not getting better battery.
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All I can find are vague descriptions. Nothing saying what exactly it's doing. From my experience thus far it's doing nothing. I am not getting better battery.
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From what I know it lowers the CPU clock speed and decreases brightness. All with the intent of saving battery.
I read that while it DOESN'T limit the CPU, it does lower the brightness and cuts out your data/BT/location/NFC in order to preserve the little bit of battery.
Edit: And syncs.
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I read that while it DOESN'T limit the CPU, it does lower the brightness and cuts out your data/BT/location/NFC in order to preserve the little bit of battery.
Edit: And syncs.
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I don't think it actually does any of that though. I have been using it a lot the past few days half on half off. I still get all MMS and emails right away plus my photos are syncing with google. My brightness doesn't change (auto or not). plus I have BT and WIFI on all the time for smart watch and of course data usage . Maybe the processor, but im not even sure of that. Guess I could do benchmarks with it on and off and see. I just feel like this feature is doing nothing at this time. On my nexus 5 I could really see the processor throttle and brightness him with battery saver.
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I don't think it actually does any of that though. I have been using it a lot the past few days half on half off. I still get all MMS and emails right away plus my photos are syncing with google. My brightness doesn't change (auto or not). plus I have BT and WIFI on all the time for smart watch and of course data usage . Maybe the processor, but im not even sure of that. Guess I could do benchmarks with it on and off and see. I just feel like this feature is doing nothing at this time. On my nexus 5 I could really see the processor throttle and brightness him with battery saver.
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Mine only does that under 15% battery. Seems like its doing nothing over that.
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The default is under 15% and when it kicks in, i definitely notice a difference in the phone.
You can change it to immediately from 15% and i bet you will notice a difference at any battery percentage.
Cpu speed is not affected, just checked this.
Brightness was indeed cut off considerably, haven't checked for other things yet :good:
I figured out why it wasn't working for me. Simply clicking the icon to green in the pull down only enables it when it gets before 15 percent. Didn't force it on now like I thought it was.
Why is there so little discussion on this feature? I found very few threads on this and this was the most active conversation even though it is so old. I found out today I could enable this feature at anytime, not just at 5 or 15%. So I have it enabled at 100% battery and testing today. Upon enabling battery saver mode and restrict idle apps, the screen immediately went dim. I turned it back up slightly. I also noticed apps acting different. Toggling between apps is quicker and the animations are gone. Also, I'm using chrome and it's acting different. It's hard to explain, but if I'm navigating from one website to another, it is feels like it is refreshing every time, it doesnt feel faster. Im not sure what it is doing but someone with more experience will probably be able to pinpoint exactly what is happening. It's not standard chrome behavior.
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Why is there so little discussion on this feature? I found very few threads on this and this was the most active conversation even though it is so old. I found out today I could enable this feature at anytime, not just at 5 or 15%. So I have it enabled at 100% battery and testing today. Upon enabling battery saver mode and restrict idle apps, the screen immediately went dim. I turned it back up slightly. I also noticed apps acting different. Toggling between apps is quicker and the animations are gone. Also, I'm using chrome and it's acting different. It's hard to explain, but if I'm navigating from one website to another, it is feels like it is refreshing every time, it doesnt feel faster. Im not sure what it is doing but someone with more experience will probably be able to pinpoint exactly what is happening. It's not standard chrome behavior.
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Not sure with the Chrome part of it. I use a different browser. With FireFox everything feels about the same as before.
I also noticed the animations are removed so there is no fancy domino effect or sliding going on. It's all instant and to be honest it feels heck of a lot quicker this way.
Screen is much more dim and is extremely conservative for the most part.
Clock speed is the same. Although I wonder if there is some sort of under the hood change such as MPDecision switching over to battery saving mode. It personally makes no sense to leave it as is considering in the past it use to cap the clock speed.
So using battery saver today along with restrict apps in background, the former definitely shuts down background data. I noticed Google play store not authenticating paid for apps. I had to go to the play store to launch the app and re-authenticate. That is where I received the warning that background data is off. I have a weather widget and that does not appear to be updating as that uses background data. I have a barometer widget and that does appear to be working as that uses sensor data. All that is required to re-enable background data is to uncheck restrict background apps under the battery saver mode. As of right now, I am at 71% battery and 2 hours 14 minutes screen on time, 3 hrs 53 minutes on the battery. I'm mostly using chrome while screen is on and podkicker and listened to about an hour of audio and a little bit of teamspeak usage with my Bluetooth headset. Brightness is at 37% which is pretty dim in this mode. I'd say it's equal to 15% in regular mode bit good enough to see.
Update, I went all the way to 25% battery remaining yesterday and I had right at 5 hour SOT. In my opinion, this mode is not worth the hassle. Background data is off and that breaks a few things. Screen is pretty dim and I ended up turning it up anyway. I have had similar battery life in the past anyway. I have had 7 hours 20 minutes of SOT before without this mode on and all my widgets working. I'm going to leave this mode off.
It saves battery
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Update, I went all the way to 25% battery remaining yesterday and I had right at 5 hour SOT. In my opinion, this mode is not worth the hassle. Background data is off and that breaks a few things. Screen is pretty dim and I ended up turning it up anyway. I have had similar battery life in the past anyway. I have had 7 hours 20 minutes of SOT before without this mode on and all my widgets working. I'm going to leave this mode off.
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yup..i feels like the batrey saving mode is draining more batrey life than not using it..is there a solution for this ?
Hey guys have been having pretty bad battery drain from my new S20 4g Exynos. My old S9+ has better battery life than this.
I have installed GSam and it seems apps are using ~95% of my battery in basically 100% standby. The largest is com.samsung.android.app.aodservice which is the always on display. I have already turned off all AoD services as well as the fingerprint icon when screen is off. Despite doing all this I can still put my finger on the screen after the phone has been locked and it unlocks with my fingerprint. Is there another setting I am missing to turn off, is it even configurable? Or am I having some sort of glitch?
9GAG as well was using lots of battery even if I had it in deep sleep and never even opened it after a reboot, so I have uninstalled that for now.
Looks like a glitch, either disable the service or wipe the phone.
I'm assuming the battery usage is the glitch you are referring to. If I disable the service and re-enable would that fix it you think? Our I would need to reset? I spent like a week getting this all setup already.
Also for the unlock without turning the screen on or waking, is that normal behaviour for everyone else or is it a setting/glitch?
knobbs said:
Hey guys have been having pretty bad battery drain from my new S20 4g Exynos. My old S9+ has better battery life than this.
I have installed GSam and it seems apps are using ~95% of my battery in basically 100% standby. The largest is com.samsung.android.app.aodservice which is the always on display. I have already turned off all AoD services as well as the fingerprint icon when screen is off. Despite doing all this I can still put my finger on the screen after the phone has been locked and it unlocks with my fingerprint. Is there another setting I am missing to turn off, is it even configurable? Or am I having some sort of glitch?
9GAG as well was using lots of battery even if I had it in deep sleep and never even opened it after a reboot, so I have uninstalled that for now.
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I am having the same readings from gsam. But Samsung battery stats say AOD used 3% battery. Not sure which is wrong
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I am having the same readings from gsam. But Samsung battery stats say AOD used 3% battery. Not sure which is wrong
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How to make gsam show app usage for me it shows only combined cpu app usage when i want to show app usage.
knobbs said:
Hey guys have been having pretty bad battery drain from my new S20 4g Exynos. My old S9+ has better battery life than this.
I have installed GSam and it seems apps are using ~95% of my battery in basically 100% standby. The largest is com.samsung.android.app.aodservice which is the always on display. I have already turned off all AoD services as well as the fingerprint icon when screen is off. Despite doing all this I can still put my finger on the screen after the phone has been locked and it unlocks with my fingerprint. Is there another setting I am missing to turn off, is it even configurable? Or am I having some sort of glitch?
9GAG as well was using lots of battery even if I had it in deep sleep and never even opened it after a reboot, so I have uninstalled that for now.
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Consider setting GSam to record battery usage since full charged instead since last unpluged it's better.Because you get real usage and screen on time for only that 100% of battery.
Zixi said:
How to make gsam show app usage for me it shows only combined cpu app usage when i want to show app usage.
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"Enable more stats" in gsam.
There is description how to enable it.
It is not aod that is draining the battery, I've got the same issue, I uninstalled AOD using ADB it didn't change anything
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I am having the same readings from gsam. But Samsung battery stats say AOD used 3% battery. Not sure which is wrong
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Do you have AoD enabled though? I have everything turned off and it is still chugging my battery
Package Disabler Pro, disable the service, no root needed either
So as an updated I disabled all AoD things with CCWSE and AoD is still chewing battery in the background as well as CCWSE now.... sigh
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So as an updated I disabled all AoD things with CCWSE and AoD is still chewing battery in the background as well as CCWSE now.... sigh
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That is bizarre. Re-enable AOD in CCSWE, then use CCSWE to wipe AOD data (tap AOD icon, look at bottom of screen and tap "Wipe data") and disable AOD again. Restart phone and leave it alone for a few minutes to let GSam battery collect data. Open GSam battery, tap the triangle/delta icon at the bottom of screen, choose "Since screen off" and see if AOD/CCSWE is still consuming battery.
So I did a factory reset and same thing happening even, without installing anything but GSAM and giving it permission. Turning off all AoD options didn't do anything. However when enabling power saving and ticking the option to turn off AoD it seems to be dropping the battery use from the service like crazy. Will need a few days of testing to see if this can fix the problem. However leaving in battery saving means I can't enjoy anything above 60hz refresh.
I noticed AOD consuming more battery following ADT1 update. I've never used AOD and it was always low on the GSam battery monitor list. But now it is #4 on the list, using 4% battery even when "disabled".
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I noticed AOD consuming more battery following ADT1 update. I've never used AOD and it was always low on the GSam battery monitor list. But now it is #4 on the list, using 4% battery even when "disabled".
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I'm still on ATD3 and have between 1.2-1.7% on Gsam, depending on how much notification i get .... using "Tap to show" on AOD along with aodNoti..app...
S20U-Exynos
knobbs said:
Hey guys have been having pretty bad battery drain from my new S20 4g Exynos. My old S9+ has better battery life than this.
I have installed GSam and it seems apps are using ~95% of my battery in basically 100% standby. The largest is com.samsung.android.app.aodservice which is the always on display. I have already turned off all AoD services as well as the fingerprint icon when screen is off. Despite doing all this I can still put my finger on the screen after the phone has been locked and it unlocks with my fingerprint. Is there another setting I am missing to turn off, is it even configurable? Or am I having some sort of glitch?
9GAG as well was using lots of battery even if I had it in deep sleep and never even opened it after a reboot, so I have uninstalled that for now.
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Main AOD service can not be disabled. There is no option to disable. This problem is related to fingerprint tracker while the phone is in standby. It's always on because you maybe need to unlock the phone any time. If you disable online fingerprint scanner (com.samsung.android.app.aodservice) then you loose fingerprint scanner while the phone is in standbye. So you should first wake on your phone from standby (by double tab the screen or push the power key) then put your finger on fingerprint scanner.
To disable AOD, Just Enable USB debugging mode then enter command:
adb shell pm disable-user com.samsung.android.app.aodservice
note: If you got successful you should receive (Package com.samsung.android.app.aodservice new state: disabled-user)
That's all.
I recently bought this phone, I updated everything system, apps......the camera keeps running the background, even when I have closed the app.....
Problems does go away if I clear data of camera app...but I don't want to do this everytime.......I bought the same phone for my mum, and same thing is happening there too, on top of that in her phone chrome is consuming a lot of battery even when the phone is idle...... please help me out
Also I did try that restrict background activity but that option did nothing and the time on "while in background" kept on increasing
P.S location was off.
Never happened this problem to my European LG G7 Thinq (LMG710EM).
Anyway you have to turn off "background activity flag" to stop background activities of any app (do it for each app).
But consider also that the 7% of battery may be consumed just in that 11 minutes.
Shooting photo consumes a lot of battery...
After a week I have figured that you need to compromise on 2 features to get a good battery life ......1st obvious one was always on display, after disabling that, battery life increased a lot, but my idle battery drain was still 1-2 % per hour with wifi turned off.......2nd I disabled the double tap to wake (knock on) and hallelujah! Now on idle it barely drains 1-2% overnight.....
This is a great phone but lacks in the battery department...I mean, I don't mind disabling aod but double tap to wake is a great feature to have...too bad it drains the battery like hell