Hello guys, I'm a greenhand on XDA, English and Mobile-dev, so please forgive any of my stupid words if I do have said in the bellowing description.
Yesterday, I joined the Samsung Bada Developers' Day, and got an unpublished Bada phone, it's GT-S7250 (Wave M). The problem is , I found I don't know how to install apps on it .
At first, I tried the built-in app market client, but strangely, I can only found some test apps on it, I guess that 's because the app market server still can't recognize this phone type yet.
Then, I use Samsung Kies on my PC, wish I could send apps to my phone after downloading them with Kies, but unfortunately, still doesn't work, cause it always prompts that the device is not supported.
So, could anyone provides my any idea to bypass all these limitations ? Thanks.
PS: I have do some monitoring work on Kies, and seems that there no validation requests to the server, and thus I think there might be a configuration file on the local disk, containing the supported devices's info, and if we can find and hack it, perhaps we could bypass the limitation.
what display resolution does your device have?
maybe you could ask larioteo for a copy of his app, he has found a method to install one app without kies, but he's only developing in 800*480 resolution
Can you show us the FW code read by kies???
i want to see if i can get the FW you have right now
About hacking kies...i think your phone is HVGA device so you can't install apps that are in kies right now
Wait until larioteo is back from his work to see what we can do about it
maybe we take you as a tester because you know chinese and we don't have chinese localization
Best Regards
Lithophyses said:
what display resolution does your device have?
maybe you could ask larioteo for a copy of his app, he has found a method to install one app without kies, but he's only developing in 800*480 resolution
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Thanks for your reply, as @mylove90 said, the screen is HVGA, 480x320.
I will dig into larioteo 's posts while waiting for his reply.
Acutally, I have found the downloaded app files on my PC, the path is
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My Documents\Samsung\Kies\Download\Applications, under this folder, I have found the *.app files, together with the corresponding *.app.img file each. I guess these are the app files I need, but to my disappoint ,when I copy these files onto my phone, I can't install them, it prompts unknown file type.
mylove90 said:
Can you show us the FW code read by kies???
i want to see if i can get the FW you have right now
About hacking kies...i think your phone is HVGA device so you can't install apps that are in kies right now
Wait until larioteo is back from his work to see what we can do about it
maybe we take you as a tester because you know chinese and we don't have chinese localization
Best Regards
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Hi, mylove90, thanks for your reply.
To be honest , I don't quite understand what do you mean by "FW code", this is the first time I met this abbreviation, I guess you mean the "FirmWare code", right ? If so , Kies shows the firmware version is : S7250XXKI8/S7250XAKI8(XXX) , Hope this is what we need to find.
As to become a tester, I have to say that I'm REALLY REALLY glad to do that, it's an great honor for me that I can do something for possibly all Bada users as my feedback to the community.
And I also had a look at larioteo's post about the voluntas browser, hope I can do somthing for it.
Thank you again,
Best Regards.
S7250XXKI8/S7250XAKI8(XXX)
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Thank you for info.
Firmware seems from September... XXX seems Product Code...
About install Apps... as handset is "new" (different Resolution)...
But you could play with bada 2.0 SDK to install few examples...
Maybe be carefully, as it is an prototype and as I know no Firmware is leaked, to fix problems...
Best Regards
I found something, if i wanted to search "S7250XXKI8". There is http://www.badaforums.net/forums/bada2/bada-dev-day-2011-t4913.html discussion on badaforums about Wave M.
Oh Samsung is so evil
XXX is invalid product code for kies updates
you get XXX product code is you damaged your original one
they know that we already got kies firmwares for sure
Best Regards
Hello there i am see left
XXX is not invalid it is the "Default Code", the main product code for all devices, only test devices gets this code, it is the ultimative update everything code.
As i know it from slyfer my tool to watch their server XXX was always the first code that got an open europe firmware, than the others get an upadte like DBT, OXA OXB OXC OXD OXE OXG after that the providers pick another of that and make something liket his VIA DRE and so on.
For more infos you need only to ask.
Picture in 5 minuetes: (also with other codes that you believe me )
note: yes the server changed but not the codes
larioteo know the best, but probably you can't install any apps that already launched. I mean, you can't install the apps that downloaded with Kies. but you can install an app that under development via Bada SDK 2.0 or larioteo's method. I hope I didn't make things worse for you.
Root Cert method via BADA SDK
If you just want to install your own apps on your wave M, ask Laoriteo about the root cert method via BADA SDK.
Really appreciate all you guys very very much, thank you for you kindly replies to my first thread on XDA.
According to your opinions, seems that there isn't much I can do with this problem. Perhaps I can only wait for the publication of this phone type, maybe till that time I will be able to use the built-in Samsung app market client. Or perhaps some hackers may jailbreak Bada, so that we can directly install any apps.
Then, I will be aiming at Bada app development, because I really feel the lack of apps on Bada, especially under the condition that I can't install any apps on this phone now.
Thank you,everyone!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17900523&postcount=166
Maybe you could try this...
Maybe you see then Firmware for your handset...
Maybe Apps...
Best Regards
Related
Known Filemanager.
Most popular is sTune.
PSAS 1.5 with TFS Browser (Samsung Modem)
PSAS can create folder.
BUT folder can't be delete.
Write protected. So maybe this is 1 reason why not possible in sTune...
TkFileExplorer_2.2.exe
Seems Original leaked Samsung stuff, but extreme old... 2001 or something.
Not really tested yet by me.
Maybe someone saw newer Version TkFileExplorer?
PSAS will soon offer few more features.
In PSAS 1.5 SD card is included, so not use Backup to Zip...
Best Regards
P.S.:
One dream is an Filemanager bada App on handset.
But at the moment it seems many restrictions, so no access to internal FS from handset...
gr8 information buddy
stune hangs a lot
still searching for the best file manager!
it wud be really helpful if u cud provide the download links..............for all these managers
THAKUR90
see section bada utilities u will get all these
sTune I used many times without problems.
PSAS 1.5 has few problems at the moment.
BUT will fix soon in new Version.
http://psas.revskills.de/
- Backup FS to Zip not work correctly
But you can create folders.
TkFileExplorer is attached. But not tested by me... maybe tooooo old.
Maybe someone could upload newer or complete TKTool.
Best Regards
adfree said:
Known Filemanager.
Most popular is sTune.
PSAS 1.5 with TFS Browser (Samsung Modem)
PSAS can create folder.
BUT folder can't be delete.
Write protected. So maybe this is 1 reason why not possible in sTune...
TkFileExplorer_2.2.exe
Seems Original leaked Samsung stuff, but extreme old... 2001 or something.
Not really tested yet by me.
Maybe someone saw newer Version TkFileExplorer?
PSAS will soon offer few more features.
In PSAS 1.5 SD card is included, so not use Backup to Zip...
Best Regards
P.S.:
One dream is an Filemanager bada App on handset.
But at the moment it seems many restrictions, so no access to internal FS from handset...
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HI.
You can use mini commander on the phone to access all the internal files of the phone. its a java version..
mini commander sounds interessting.
Thanx for hint.
I will download and try and post later result.
Best Regards
Edit.
Now tested, seems nice. But not what I thought...
Anyway. Thanx.
Try MyExplorer. Its a native Bada app.
Today I tried MyExplorer.
http://www.samsungapps.com/topApps/topAppsDetail.as?productId=G00000248525
Also not exactly what I wish... But you have access to hidden folder on Memory Card.
[email protected]@[email protected]@__
Best Regards
I'm working on a FileExplorer for Samsung Wave, you can read about it in the other bada section (which i'm not allowed to post in):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=958457
I had a good play with TkFileExplorer. It should be able to connect with the Wave, but I was not able to make a connection stick.
TkFileExplorer isn't very friendly in terms of how to set it up, but I was able to get it to at least try and connect to the phone. However it times out afterwhile, and you see there's a new drive letter P:. But it disappears from TkFileExplorer as soon as you click ok on the error message screen.
I tried connecting it in Kies mode and also usb debugging mode. Still not sure which one it's supposed to be set to. But I did find some posts for older Samsung phones where they connected in PC Studio mode.
I'm going to try again on another computer as I think the usb drivers and such might be conflicting.
It might help to know what the COM settings are that WaveBackup and sTune use to connect to the phone. I've been leaving all the settings at default but there might be some trickery that needs to occur.
About incoming WaveBackup Tool.
More and more progress, see Screenshot of Version 1.0.7
Fell free to test self. Here are the infos:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=958457
@ mortara
Thank you very much for developing hard.
@ KrazyKong
Thank you very much for testing and reporting.
@ all
Please help to improve stability. Test and report will help to make Wavebackup more stable.
Thanx.
Sorry for resized Screenshot. Limit seems 640 x 480... so look into attached
WaveBackup107.rar for full 1920 x 200 Pixel.
Best Regards
Hello,
Version 1.0.7 of WaveBackup can now be obtained by everyone from my homepage.
No registrattion the forum needed anymore.
Patrick
mortara said:
Hello,
Version 1.0.7 of WaveBackup can now be obtained by everyone from my homepage.
No registrattion the forum needed anymore.
Patrick
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thanks
i'll try it right now
mortara said:
Hello,
Version 1.0.7 of WaveBackup can now be obtained by everyone from my homepage.
No registrattion the forum needed anymore.
Patrick
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Thanks man! you save me!
You're welcome! I just uploaded Version 1.0.10 to my homepage. It has an option to add files and folders to a 'blacklist' so that they won't be copied in file explorer operations anymore.
... Mortara hello I've been on your forum and I downloaded the application ... Unfortunately, the release is 1.0.9 ... where that next ... thanks by psycoy
Oh, sorry, you're right. Something must have gone wrong with the upload. I've fixed that now, so just download it again from my homepage (can't put external links here yet).
Version 1.0.12 of WaveBackup is up since a few days. I have done some smaller changes to stop annyoing owners of Wave II and 723 with that long error-message when connecting. Another change is that sizes of folders will be displayed now in explorer view, when the complete folder tree has been fetched. I've also fixed a few bugs.
Oh, and last but not least: Files can be copied now to the phone in explorer view (but still restricted to some special folders (<Appid>/Data for example)
I still can't post in the other bada board here, where the 'real' WaveBackup Thread can be found, so i hope everyone there sees this too!
@ All
I found a "new" version of TkFileExplorer - 2.4, it works fine with my Wave. TkFileExplorer is able to delete or rename folders and it is more stable than sTune.
I have been thinking of a side project i can start and since i recently acquired a wave and have a SGS myself it seems like a fun project. I found out that it has a hummingbird processor and may not be much difference from a Galaxy S in terms for hardware. Right now I'm just collecting as much information as i can about the device and what similarities the Wave has to a Samsung Galaxy S i9000.
So throw me what you got, its not an easy task and will need help, i have started another thread to see if i can get some Devs interested in this project and are willing to help in the android section
The idea is to port the Galaxy S i9000 firmware to the Wave that way you still have the samsung feel and since its made for the hummingbird processor. We will first need to see if we can get access to hardware and use that to inject code etc. This is in the research stage as of now.
THIS IS JUST A START AND MAY DIE BEFORE IT EVEN BEGINS. SO DON'T COMPLAIN WHY IT WAS STOPPED. I AM DOING THIS ONLY TO SEE IF I CAN DO IT AND NOTHING MORE.
If only i know C++ language, ican help you but i don't know. I'll follow and wait your results.
Keep going my friend. If you success (i hope) i will pay you to get the firmware!
thanx for starting this. i have visited forums where people are trying to port android on wave. And there biggest problem is bootloader. they cant dissemble it, just want to provide you this info. i will provide more info as soon as i get on any forums. This is the only way i can help, as i am only a application developer.
adfree is working on bootloader. Please, contact him.
@ jebise101
But you read this first?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899535
I9000 stuff is available... but remember Baseband is Infineon... not Qualcomm...
Aplication Processor is identical...
Maybe more luck with Galaxy K M130K Firmware:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12083886&postcount=7
But I can't find Firmware for M130K
Go find Firmware from M130K with BootFiles.
it says original firmware for M130K but not sure
pspmaster. tistory. com/48
looks like it is the firmware you wanted adfree
here is the link righ here easier http://pspmaster.tistory.com/48
use google chrome with this page as it is in korean
Well, if you google M130K-KIES, you can get the firmware via 4share, but the file it got was without the boot.bin :-(. But I'm not sure about the firmware from pspmaster.
whats with this project ?
http://www.androidport.net/
pawlakpl this site androidport.net never end this project becouse no money.
Here is an app someone created i will try it when i get home to see if if i can get it to download the Korean SGS firmware (use to use it all the time back when i had the O2, if anyohne wants to give it a shot feel free
http://www.modaco.com/content/i8000...41/samsung-mobile-firmware-queries-downloads/
cinimini said:
pawlakpl this site androidport.net never end this project becouse no money.
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But XDA can end a project ?
I've downloaded M130K-HOME-REV04-EA29.tar
Thanx to hsingh56 and mylove90.
As I've searched several hours via Google with no success...
Now I have also Bootloader files from M130K... but looks totally different as I thought...
Anyway... I9000 and M130K have similar folders/files...
factoryfs.rfs.img
Rename into *.img like above. And extract with WinImage for instance...
Then use open eyes.
1.
Few Images are QMG... for PowerOFF QMG Animation...
2.
*.so files
3.
lib\hw
...s5pc110.so
But anyway. As long NOBODY try with JTAG (RIFF BOX) + Wave S8500 + knowledge different combinations. If Boot area is secured?
We will NEVER see Android on Wave...
Best Regards
So the wuestion is....
Whos have JTAG+S8500+Knowledge+Free time to help the bootloader creation?
Yes,boot and sbl is secured(e-fused)
cinimini said:
pawlakpl this site androidport.net never end this project becouse no money.
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Euhmm. If you guys actually READ The site it shows we are working. Only we PROBALY need IDA. But we're in touch with Dopi from IDA. if things work out we will have the bootloader disassembled within 2 weeks and we can start testing the modified FW from the Galaxy S
ShadowAS1 said:
Euhmm. If you guys actually READ The site it shows we are working. Only we PROBALY need IDA. But we're in touch with Dopi from IDA. if things work out we will have the bootloader disassembled within 2 weeks and we can start testing the modified FW from the Galaxy S
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Great news! Keep up the good work.
ShadowAS1 said:
Euhmm. If you guys actually READ The site it shows we are working. Only we PROBALY need IDA. But we're in touch with Dopi from IDA. if things work out we will have the bootloader disassembled within 2 weeks and we can start testing the modified FW from the Galaxy S
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Please, STOP. I won't comment on that nonsense. Let me just say good riddance to you and come back with the results. We already had enough talking and it's time for you to show whether you can distinguish ARMv4, ARMv7, decrypted, encrypted executables and any basics of code signing.
great initiative...keep it up the work and never give up...
hi
good day
my new friend is a developer
he made an app and wants to publish a beta for tests
so is there any idea on how to make a small package for testing like darijoa from badanation.de did it??
http://www.badanation.de/topic.php?t=3966&page=1
P.S: i am not a developer so i'll just deliver data
Thanks in Advance
With bada SDK...
There is an option to make package... so only "Binary" is included instead Source Code.
If no one is faster, I will make an Screenshot... sooon.
Best Regards
What's the problem? You just need to replace the application in the "\App\" folder on his own and edit the "\App\App.cfg". Darijoa installer is just part of the Bada SDK with skillfully written bat-file.
hahahahahaha
Xenon do you expect from me to understand this??
my friend is just a new bada developer who needed some help
he knows C/C++ but didn't study the bada SDK
i didn't believe him when he told me that he wrote an app just 4 days after downloading SDK (thats too fast for me)
anyway i'll tell him what adfree said and what you said too
Thanks for helping guys
XDA rocks
Hi Guys
adfree/Xenon, is there any way to install any app [without having certificate to this application] by Darijoa bat file? If I'm installing original app with cert, for example Voluntas, installation goes well. But I was tryin' something different - I put MyExplorer app in "App" folder, changed strings in config file. When I tried to install this app using this method, my phone says "Error 0108" - no certificate to myExplorer. Is there any way to install ANY application using this method? Is there any option to create certificate to application what I didn't created?
If you don't know what, I wanted to, I thought to create new spoof method for people using JL2 firmware. After this f*****n' Samsung Apps update, only way to run "non-free" games is to reflash their phones [downgrade to JK1 for example]. Not everybody want to do this
Btw, Xenon, good work with sp.so protection
adfree, good job with all U R doing
Best regards,
wxtester
I am sure Adfree has absolutely no interest in supporting a new "****ing" method of spoofing.
Btw, with that **** you are not damaging Samsung, but small developer groups and freelancers like us.
@wxtester
This installation method is only available for applications signed by developers certificate. And so by this way is possible to install only one application. Create a certificate - a task nearly impossible. Possible way to solve - edit apps_сompressed.bin, so I'm hope for success in the holod's QMD packing, this will open a new stage in the creation of custom firmwares.
hi all
I have to questions about the firmware
first is : Is there any possibility to add a language to a Firmware ? (at least for reading)
second is : as you know the new bada firmwares does not allow to run spoofed apps now the questions, Is there any possibility to run spoofed applications in new bada firmware or can we make a spoofable firmware from non spoofable one?
With Specially Thanks to all
civil.scholar said:
hi all
I have to questions about the firmware
first is : Is there any possibility to add a language to a Firmware ? (at least for reading)
second is : as you know the new bada firmwares does not allow to run spoofed apps now the questions, Is there any possibility to run spoofed applications in new bada firmware or can we make a spoofable firmware from non spoofable one?
With Specially Thanks to all
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If you ever had used the forum search, you would have found both answers to your questions.
... and your second question sucks, anyway.
xsycox said:
If you ever had used the forum search, you would have found both answers to your questions.
... and your second question sucks, anyway.
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if you know any answer post it
if dont know so dont talk , anyway
Well for your first question I dont know the answer but for your second i know.
There may be a way u can make it spoofable by hackin some files but the better way is to download firmware that was released before November or any firmware that is pre hacked by some hackers to run spoof applications. well i personally dont suggest you to spoof games or any other application because i also dont do the same. The developers need some support.
lordfarhan40 said:
Well for your first question I dont know the answer but for your second i know.
There may be a way u can make it spoofable by hackin some files but the better way is to download firmware that was released before November or any firmware that is pre hacked by some hackers to run spoof applications. well i personally dont suggest you to spoof games or any other application because i also dont do the same. The developers need some support.
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thanks i think both answers is negative but nothing is impossible
in our region there is just one firmware of bada 1.2 and its release after november so if we want to use bada 1.2 there is no way to use spoofed apps ( there is no older version of bada 1.2)
for yor advice tnx i know they need support but samsung apps dont let us to buy apps because the seller part dont start in our region so we have no way except spoof
Actually I never knew that you cant buy apps. so listen xxJID, xxJJA, xxJK1 firmwares were launched before November and are also bada 1.2
lordfarhan40 said:
Actually I never knew that you cant buy apps. so listen xxJID, xxJJA, xxJK1 firmwares were launched before November and are also bada 1.2
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thank yes you right but they don't support Persian language
We all remember at the MIX10 Joe Belfiore projects his phone onto the big screen. Even on the recent XBOX show he did that again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IA28wRWAI8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCDXaJh4bwE
this kind of video out is through micro-usb, normal type one. You can find Joe is using a Lumia 800 in his hand in the XBOX video.
I asked him through twitter and received an answer of "Special Software build".
I did some research and dig into the register keys. Found something.
This is a special driver that only shared inside the MS and normally won't be out anytime soon.
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(Deleted because they are no longer of any means)
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----Update on 2012.Feb 9 China Time----
marsrogers said:
Big Step Forward, since the DFT Rom released, the exe can be run in WP7.
One thing I need now is if someone can build an app for me, which calls the changeusbprofile.exe under /windows
Things here is I'm using the Opera mini launcher to call it, but the path is under /application, not under /Windows, and the result is my computer can not detect the phone when the phone reboots. I think this may relates to the path I call.
I'm not a typical tech-man, so I need help here. Thanks!
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----Update on 2012.Feb 9 23:00 China Shanghai Time----
Today I really thank @GoodDayToDie and @ultrashot for helping so many.
@ultrashot sent me a xap app that does the job, calling the changusbprofile.exe in Windows folder. Although result is the same with yesterday, but now I am more sure that we are one more step closer to our destination. I'll wait my new micro usb cables to arrive and then I'll make a second try. Thank you again!!! Can't reach here without you kind people~~~
----Update on 2012.Feb 10 19:22 China Shanghai Time----
I removed the attachments because the project is now on special stage. I will put them back after the feature works, or after I can't make it work. Either way, I will put them back~~~Don't worry.
----Update on 2012.Feb 12 15:22 China Shanghai Time----
Complete failure....
New cable arrived and still my computer can't recognize the phone in usb video out mode...I changed a computer and till the same...
Will think about next steps...if I can't make figure it out next week, I shall put everything at present stage onto here.
----Update on 2012.Feb 14 10:22 China Shanghai Time----
Think it over, and think there is still a hill in front of us. The changeusbprofile.exe seems just to be a toggle, like a shortcut. But the real port of usb video out hasn't been enabled. On my samsung focus, I checked the *#7284# in Diagnosis Mode before and after I ran the changeusbprofile. The thing changes from Zun to Tethering, while it's not the real tethering mode. I think the changeusbprofile is just doing a job like changing usb mode from zune to tethering or to Diag mode. So that's to say, we haven't really seen the iceberg yet. I'll keep finding and hoping that anyone can get any help on this. This may requires me to dig some post in Windows Mobile age, since some parts between the two system are same.
And I contacted the kind secret person, and get the news that the usb cable doesn't really matters. Any short cables should serve the job. So our attention should move back onto the phone again.
----Update on 2012.Feb 15 15:13 China Shanghai Time----
I figured it out~The changeusbprofile changes the value in Registry Local_Machine/Drivers/USB/FunctionDrivers, DefaultClientDriver=CompositeFn to UFN_VIDSTREAM_CLASS. Every value change here points to a folder in FunctionDrivers.
in Samsung Focus, it is like below:
/CompositeFn;
/CompositeFn_QCOM;
/CompositeFn_SAMSUNG;(This is the one when we choose Diag Mode in Diagnosis App *#7284#)
/MtpClientDrvUsb;
/Samsung_USBSER_Modemlink;
/Serial_Class;
/Serial_Class_Diag_Qcom;
/Serial_Class_Nmea_Qcom;
/Serial_Class_Trace_Qcom;
/USBSER_Class;
/USBSER_Modemlink_Qcom;
There is no UFN_VIDSTREAM_CLASS folder here, so that explains why the changeusbprofile works well while it is no use at all...
Next step, I will try looking for the Setting in Asus E600, if I can find someone who has this device. Maybe Samsung Taylor will do the same.
If you can help, don't hesitate~~
----Update on 2012.Mar 3 15:13 China Shanghai Time----
marsrogers said:
Updated some info
I looked into the Key name, UFN_VIDSTREAM_CLASS, which is very unique way to name.
This belongs to a USB function Driver, and the only thing I saw similar is a UFN_PRINTER_CLASS, which is in Wince 6.0
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee483856(v=winembedded.60).aspx
And you may check this
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee485691(v=winembedded.60).aspx
So I'm still waiting for somebody who can offer any help on this. I talked with Mr. Yang Zhongke, who invented RecX prototype, fiinix optimized that, but not the inventor.
His way is not quite efficient and seems can't go further. But he will do some work for this in a foreseeable future.
Any one has a Asus E600, plz contact me, will keep your name secret.
Thanks!~
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----Update on 2012.Mar 6 1:02 China Shanghai Time----
Project suspended, cuz according to a source, WP8 will have Remote desktop support.
"The ability to take screenshots (via Remote Desktop, no less) will be a feature of Windows Phone 8. I don't see anything changing before that."
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"Only that you will be able to remote desktop into the Phone, which should allow you to create videos and/or screenshots from a PC."
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The source is quite trustful, and I have no reason to doubt that.
So just be patient, and it will come. No need for this project to keep going.
At last, use my words in the email I talked with the source.
Me:Really puzzled why MS doesn't release such a cool and convenient feature. Haven't they realized that when people use this feature, they are promoting WP7 for free...(Actually I've promoted in this way for Android as a "side effect" in the company I work in for three months and as a result more than 20 Samsung Galaxy SII were added during this period. Google and Samsung should thank me...)
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---Update on 2012.August 17 14:21 China Shanghai Time---
A very kind man has sent me the 7003 LG Panther ROM, which has the necessary file, and we successfully got them out. But I just lost my sell phone, so it may take some time to buy a new WP7 Samsung focus. Maybe next week. Very close to the final line. God bless us. Cheers.
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Good luck!~
--Update on 2012.August 20 22:37 China Shanghai Time--
I tried to make it work while it still failed. The computer recognised my cellphone as WM7VIDSTREAM while the PC side app still does n't work.
I think this could be related to that the PC side app is for mango and the cellphone side is grabbed from 7003. I uploaded the VSD folder which contains what I think are the everything we need for now.
If anyone wants to build an rom, now it's the time.
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--Update on 2012.August 23 17:42 China Shanghai Time--
One friend, who you will know someday later, gave me a home-make cab which includes the pkg file from Microsoft. Right now it is not for public for now. But it is successful.
Although I started this project, but as it always be, not a technique project but a sociology one. So there are many things and many people's benefit to consider. So just wait for some time, it is there when it is there.
For technique part, the pkg file includes as same as the VSD.rar in the attachment.
Cheers
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--Update on 2012.August 28 19:43 China Shanghai Time--
Check here, you have what you want. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856509
This is a long story, and finally it ended beautifully.
"Always be closing"--Glengarry Glen Ross (1992)
To me? Yeah, this project closed.
Regards,
marsrogers
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Well, I can tell you a little about the thing you found (good investigation, by the way!)
First off, that's a module - it's kind of like a file (and shows up in the filesystem) but is baked into the ROM and can't be opened, much less modified, like a normal file.
There are tools that are supposed to be able to re-assemble modules, such as recmod. I haven't been able to get them to work, but maybe I'm just doing it wrong. In theory, it should be possible to create a "normal" DLL out of the components of a module.
The next trick is getting that rebuilt DLL onto the phone. This can be done pretty easily on Samsung, and is possible on interop-unlocked HTC, but on LG/Toshiba/Fujitsu/Dell/Nokia we don't currently have a way.
After that, you'll need to "install" the driver. Now, there's a registry entry for doing this. The problem is, I only know that the entry is required - I don't know if it's sufficient, or if there's also a database or something that must be updated. In any case, any phone where we can put a file into the Windows folder, we can also do registry editing.
Then there's the thing of actually getting the UI for this feature (the Settings "app" to control it). It's vaguely possible that the retail ROMs include it, but this is doubtful, so you'll probably need to pull it out of that old ROM. It's probably an EXE, so it's unlokely you can make a XAP for it - instead, you'll need to install it into the phone directly, including putting in the registry entried to launch it (this is a guess, I've never tried).
It's worth noting here that it's probably *WAY* easier to just pull that feature out of your old ROM and bake it into a custom ROM. This should be pretty straightforward, however, then it's only useful on custom ROMs, which in turn are only possible on HTC phones (right now).
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Well, I can tell you a little about the thing you found (good investigation, by the way!)
First off, that's a module - it's kind of like a file ...
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Thanks for your reply. I did something with the recmod, but the dll it packed is only 1kb, apparently it's not useful. I guess it is because there is no imageinfo.bin inside the dll folder. I used some tools recommended by Da_G who started to try modding WP7 on the first day. Like nbsplit.exe to creat a IMGFS.bin, and use xidump to dump it. Just like what they have done before, I got the dll folders as same as I got at the beginning.
You may be right for the part that it's rather easier to build a new rom. There are tools to repack the whole IMGFS from files while I didn't find any good ways to pack a specific folder.
May ask more people all over the world (thx to the internet) cuz I just moved from android. In android, I use cygwin to pack the Odin Tar files, but it's totally different of course.
Anyway, doing this research is just for fun~ All is because MS is moving too slow...not to mention the NFC function I already have for a year on my Nexus S~~
Thank U again!~
This would be awesome good luck
Really a good find! Found that reg entry some time ago but I didn't care about it...Now that you bring up that thing again I also think that this could be very useful (even if you want it just for fun and not for business purposes). But note that the DLL file doesn't have to be in the /windows folder. It could be somewhere different, too.
@-WP7User-: That's an interesting idea, and might enable this to work on LG phones (where we have registry but not filesystem control). The registry value that speicies the path to the driver binary only ever gives the file name (example:
[HKLM\Drivers\Builtin\HTCFileUtility]
Dll="HTCFileUtility.dll")
However, it might work to specify a full path instead of just a relative one (relative to the \Windows folder, one must assume, since that's where the files in question are located).
However, there's still the issue of actually getting the phone to load the driver correctly. Just adding or editing the registry value for Drivers\Builtin didn't work for me - it did something (the driver stopped working when I chancged the value for an existing driver) - I wasn't able to make a user-added DLL work (even a different version of an official driver).
any news on this?
The old Recmod doesn't work on WP7 files. I believe there is a patched version for WP7 floating around XDA somewhere. Have to check my files, could of swore I downloaded it once.
EDIT: Here you go.
I have get the source code for creating the dcTNONE_ANALOGTV.dll, they are .c file and .def file.
My Problem is I don't know how to build them.
And I have got the changeusbmode.exe and the xml file with it. Figuring an idea to put them in.
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I have get the source code for creating the dcTNONE_ANALOGTV.dll, they are .c file and .def file.
My Problem is I don't know how to build them.
And I have got the changeusbmode.exe and the xml file with it. Figuring an idea to put them in.
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Download the FixRecMod.exe above I posted. Drag the dctNONE_analogtv.dll folder with the "s000 s001 s002 s003 s004" files in it over the exe. Now you'll find the actual DLL file inside the folder. Any problems, just upload the folder & I'll do it for you.
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Download the FixRecMod.exe above I posted. Drag the dctNONE_analogtv.dll folder with the "s000 s001 s002 s003 s004" files in it over the exe. Now you'll find the actual DLL file inside the folder. Any problems, just upload the folder & I'll do it for you.
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I have made the dll successfully. But when I put the dll into the /Windows folder in my Samsung Focus, nothing happened even after a reboot.
And another interesting thing is in WP7 Root Tools, when exploring the /Windows folder, all single file has a "ROM Module" or "ROM File" written blew, but the files I moved in has nothing written under it.
I tried to check the usb mode in diagnosis *#7248#, still there are three options to choose, nothing new.
I personally don't see the future of this project for now.
However, You have done a lot to help, it's very kind of you, thank you so much!
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I have made the dll successfully. But when I put the dll into the /Windows folder in my Samsung Focus, nothing happened even after a reboot.
And another interesting thing is in WP7 Root Tools, when exploring the /Windows folder, all single file has a "ROM Module" or "ROM File" written blew, but the files I moved in has nothing written under it.
I tried to check the usb mode in diagnosis *#7248#, still there are three options to choose, nothing new.
I personally don't see the future of this project for now.
However, You have done a lot to help, it's very kind of you, thank you so much!
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It wouldn't have ROM FILE/MODULE under it as it wasn't cooked in. You probably need some registry for it to work. Also, try opening the DLL in PEexplorer & checking to see it it has a cert attached.
Example of a DLL/EXE with a cert;
Gonna cook it into my rom and try it out...Do you have an idea which reg entry it could need?
I think of something for the settings page. Because if you haven't got a settings page for it, how can you activate it?
And maybe another entry which points it to the DLL file...?
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Gonna cook it into my rom and try it out...Do you have an idea which reg entry it could need?
I think of something for the settings page. Because if you haven't got a settings page for it, how can you activate it?
And maybe another entry which points it to the DLL file...?
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Next weekend I may upload the dcTNONE_ANALOGTV.dll folder which I found in the leaked ROM for HTC Surround even before the WP7 was officially to public, the source code which is .c and .def for it, which is to remove some limits for QSD8250 CPU, and the changeusbprofile.exe and changeusbprofile.xml from Asus E600 (the only dev phone has the display mirror feather in 7720 for now)someone Mr X, who I am very grateful to gave me.
I ain't major in this level of computing techs, so I think in order to make the project alive, it's better to share what I have to those who has the ability to do it. Let them holding in my hand is a great waste at present stage.
The QSD8250 is a very old cpu, so there should be no problem with NDA.
P.S
There should be a manual installed usb driver on PC and a client application on PC but I don't have them right now. If you have friends or friend's friend who is a dev, holding a e600 dev phone, try ask them to share something, appreciated.
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It wouldn't have ROM FILE/MODULE under it as it wasn't cooked in. You probably need some registry for it to work. Also, try opening the DLL in PEexplorer & checking to see it it has a cert attached.
Example of a DLL/EXE with a cert;
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m240/drkfngthdragnlrd/Untitled-31.png
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I've uploaded all my files so you can make the check yourself.
After all I'm major in management not IT techniques so I don't want to pull the path down.
Thank You for the help you offered!~~~
Thanks for uploading your files. But it seems like I can't find the reg key...
There isn't a single reg entry which points to the uploaded .dll. At least not in the official Mango Update for the HD7.
But if you post the whole entry, I could try to cook the .dll into my rom and see what happens.
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Thanks for uploading your files. But it seems like I can't find the reg key...
There isn't a single reg entry which points to the uploaded .dll. At least not in the official Mango Update for the HD7.
But if you post the whole entry, I could try to cook the .dll into my rom and see what happens.
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has this registry something to do With that ? :
Local Machine\Drivers\Display\TV\
PanelDLL=string:"dcTNONE_ANALOGTV.dll"
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Thanks for uploading your files. But it seems like I can't find the reg key...
There isn't a single reg entry which points to the uploaded .dll. At least not in the official Mango Update for the HD7.
But if you post the whole entry, I could try to cook the .dll into my rom and see what happens.
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Just like @tessut posted. It's it. And I think you'd better try to build the dcTNONE_ANALOGTV.dll yourself from the source, it should be more reliable than using fixedRecmod. I can't do that cuz there seems to need many head files that do not exist in computer even I have vs2010...
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Okay, if someone wants to try that, too: The exact reg key (just copy and paste) is
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Display\TV]
"PanelDLL"=string:"dcTNONE_ANALOGTV.dll"
Didn't flash the rom on my device yet, but that's soon going to happen
The dctNONE_analogtv.dll is in the windows folder, the changeusbprofile.exe and .xml are in there, too. I hope it works!
EDIT: Didn't work at all...The ChangeUSBProfile.exe didn't get installed (although I'm 100% sure that it is there and of course in the right folder). Wasn't there a license xml around or something? Because normally a Windows Phone 7 App needs a license file to get installed when starting the phone for the first time. Don't know if this applies to .exe files though.
Has someone got an idea?
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EDIT: Didn't work at all...The ChangeUSBProfile.exe didn't get installed (although I'm 100% sure that it is there and of course in the right folder). Wasn't there a license xml around or something? Because normally a Windows Phone 7 App needs a license file to get installed when starting the phone for the first time. Don't know if this applies to .exe files though.
Has someone got an idea?
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Thanks for the work! Is it possible if we extract the official .cab update file to get a licence and patch it to the exe?
I used a PE Explorer to open the changusbprofile.exe and found a license called"Windows Mobile TCB signing cert" in it.
Another thing is I used a way to open .exe in IE (use IE in WP7 to open this thread and download the usbvideoout.zip and you can have the chance to open changeusbprofile.exe directly) but it failed in Mango. Maybe we should try this in 7004 because this is really an old file. Or we should find a .cab file that contains a exe file in it and this .cab must be announced after mango update.