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No love affair is perfect.
We all love our EVO's, but it's a good bet there is at least one thing that REALLY annoys you. Here's your chance to vent.
Please list only one thing:
Mine: I hate the vibration mechanism in the EVO. When I click a button I don't get a satisfying "click" or a comforting "thunk", I get an annoying "buzzy-buzz-buzz" - kind of like the electronic equivalent of a phone fart.
Really hate this. Some of the new W7 phones have this cool "pe-tok" sort of feeling, kind of like when you pushed down the little plastic dome to flip the dice when you played "Trouble" as a child. Wish I could change my EVO to do that but I think it is just a hardware thing.
i love my evo, i really do, I just cant stand the camera and the biggest drawback to me is the GPU, or the lack thereof proper drivers to support it fully. Using someones SGS or iPhone 4 does make me very jealous with how smooth they are, but I still love my evo, until a more powerful HTC comes out for Sprint, ill be sticking with it
My only annoyance is that sometimes while holding the phone, i accidentally activate icons in the edge of the screen.
I hate the fact that it reboots if i do anything more then look at it.
Let me be the first to mention the atrocious battery life.
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Let me be the first to mention the atrocious battery life.
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battery doesnt bother me too much, battery technology is getting no better (except for the li-ion polymer) while technology is still moving fast as hell, ill take so so battery life to have all we have at our fingertips
no track ball.
i do not hate anything about it since now i have a kernel that gives me proper battery life. if anything i would of changed the design of the phone a bit.
gave it a dedicated camera button and moved the power button to the lower right side instead of on top. also would of made the lcd super amoloed.
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Let me be the first to mention the atrocious battery life.
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use the sbc kernel and that won't be an issue anymore.
I wish the would have made the volume rockers and power button out of a stronger substance, and I wish that it wouldn't feel like mush when you pressed down on them.
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i wish it had a dedicated camera button as well
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Let me be the first to mention the atrocious battery life.
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if i could use my phone that would be my next complaint
After several years of Windows Mobile phones and their seamless sync with ActiveSync and then Windows Mobile Device Center, I am very frustrated with all the hoops I have to go through to try to keep my Evo in sync with Outlook.
The main reason I got a Pocket PC/smart phone in the first place was to keep my contacts and appointments in sync with my PC. Even with the latest HTC Sync and with it set to keep the PC's data if there is a conflict, my PC data gets messed up almost every time I sync.
Wish it had full device encryption, so I could get my work email.
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Gpu sucks... period.
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Camera, It takes ****ty pictures in the dark. It really hit me when I went to the Roger Waters concert (Pink Floyd) and almost all the pictures were crappy.
Another vote for the GPU. Adreno 200 pretty much holds it back from being stellar.
Another vote for the camera.
Not really about the EVO itself, but Android in general: no VPN. Without it, it just does not work for corporate use, it is more like a toy.
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The lack on the keyboard
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I've had a EVO and currently have a EVO 3D. I'm considering taking the plunge with a E4GT. I'd like to hear from some of you that have also made this same move. What do you like/dislike about the new phone? I read a post from one person that had made the move, and gained some valuable insight. I couldn't find any others, so I'm posting this.
Things I'm most interested in hearing about:
Battery life (stock)
GPS performance
Overall speed (I will replace touchwiz with Launcher Pro or ADW Launcher)
Signal stability
Call/audio quality both speaker and mic
Anything else you've noticed that you like or dislike
Thanks in advance!
I came from the evo 3D. I love the phone, but the reception on it is horrible. I'm sitting in the same spot and it fluctuates between 5/6 bars and 0. Its definitely worse than the Evo 3D's reception problem.
Battery is better than the Evo 3D
GPS is way worse
Speed is incredibly faster
Call quality is just a little bit better. nothing to fuss over
Sense 3.0 is better
HTC updates their phones 4 years (exaggeration) before Samsung does.
speedy0339 said:
I came from the evo 3D. I love the phone, but the reception on it is horrible. I'm sitting in the same spot and it fluctuates between 5/6 bars and 0. Its definitely worse than the Evo 3D's reception problem.
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Rooted? Have you experienced the complete LOS issue yet?
I had the Evo 4G for about a year and made the move to the SGS2E4GT when it launched. I to replaced Touchwiz with Go Launcher EX. This is phone is unbelievably fast. The battery beats the pants off of the Evo. I can go all day with moderate use (surfing the web, watching youtube, playing games and making calls) and still have plenty of battery left when I get ready to go to bed.
The screen is incredible and the camera is top notch. I have had the loss of signal problem but didn't have it till after I rooted the phone. There is a fix in the works and it's easily fixed with a quick 15 reboot. This phone is extremely light and thin. I really don't have anything bad to say about it. No lag whatsoever, everything runs smoothly. The call audio is great. The GPS took a little while to aquire my position but has worked fine since. Signal wise I haven't had any problems.
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I've had a EVO and currently have a EVO 3D. I'm considering taking the plunge with a E4GT. I'd like to hear from some of you that have also made this same move. What do you like/dislike about the new phone? I read a post from one person that had made the move, and gained some valuable insight. I couldn't find any others, so I'm posting this.
Things I'm most interested in hearing about:
Battery life (stock)
GPS performance
Overall speed (I will replace touchwiz with Launcher Pro or ADW Launcher)
Signal stability
Call/audio quality both speaker and mic
Anything else you've noticed that you like or dislike
Thanks in advance!
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Battery life - about twice the battery life of Evo3d. Just the other day I had 18 hours on charge, with 5:30 hours of display on time, and I was at 30% battery.
GPS performance - I only tested it once. It locked in instantly inside close a window.
Overall speed (I will replace touchwiz with Launcher Pro or ADW Launcher.)
Much snappier than Evo3d. Samsung does an excellent job for hardware acceleration of TW launcher and browser. Which is also why you don't want to replace it with LP or ADW - they will not be accelerated - meaning more battery consumption and not as smooth.
Signal stability - I really see no difference from Evo3D. Some people report better signal; I've never seen it.
Call/audio quality both speaker and mic - speaker is better on Evo3D, but louder with ET. Call quality is MUCH better on ET.
Anything else you've noticed that you like or dislike
It's huge. It's hard to operate with one hand for sure. I do like the thinness and the lower weight though. And the build quality is excellent.
Screen is amazing - I never thought this possible, but there's less pixelation than on Nexus S at 4.0 inches. And you can actually see things on the screen in direct sunlight, whereas Evo3D is impossible to see under the same conditions.
Thanks for the posts, everyone! This is exactly the kind of input I was looking for. Please keep 'em coming!
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GPS is way worse
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How specifically is it worse? This is one of the areas I was worried about, because Samsung has a history of GPS issues. Friends of mine at work have had samsung phones that take MINUTES to lock on GPS, where my Evo or Evo3d would lock in less than 5 seconds, standing right next to them. Is this the kind of thing you're experiencing?
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How specifically is it worse? This is one of the areas I was worried about, because Samsung has a history of GPS issues. Friends of mine at work have had samsung phones that take MINUTES to lock on GPS, where my Evo or Evo3d would lock in less than 5 seconds, standing right next to them. Is this the kind of thing you're experiencing?
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I was at a red light and needed directions, and it showed me like 4000 meters away and couldnt lock on to my location in the middle of Phoenix,AZ on a majo highway.
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Rooted? Have you experienced the complete LOS issue yet?
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I'm not rooted, and yes I have experienced LOS pleanty of times. The problem is: I had the Evo 3D from the day it came out till about 2 weeks ago. Sprint gave me the Epic 4G Touch because I had a lot of problems with the Evo 3D and was in the sprint store all the time getting it replaced. There is no way for me to return this phone (ET4G) so I am stuck with it till june of next year. I really hope that samsung comes out with a fix soon because its really annoying, and i will never buy another samsung phone again.
Whats the point of having a beast phone when it only gets service half of the time sitting in the same place?
The first time I used the gps, it couldn't get a fix. I let it sit for about ten minutes outside during a clear night and never locked on. I entered the dialer code ##GPSCLRX# then entered my MSL to reset my gps. The next day I tried it again and got a lock in about 10 seconds. Its worked fine ever since.
Had my Evo 4G for over a year before I replaced it with the ET4G.
Battery life - much much better than my Evo ever was.
GPS performance - doesn't seem any better or worse than the Evo
Overall speed - night and day difference with any task. (I am using Touchwiz and love it. Never cared for Sense at all. Gotta love the hardware acceleration)
Signal stability - I actually find my signal to be better than when I had the Evo.
Call/audio quality both speaker and mic - The call quality is much more crisp and clear on the ET4G and my gf also noticed the difference on her end of the line as well. I feel the speaker is louder than the Evo but not as clear.
Other things - The camera is leagues ahead and the screen is absolutely gorgeous. For the entire time I had my Evo I could never find a ROM/Kernel combination that made me satisfied with the phone. With the ET4G I am loving it completely stock (just rooted of course).
speedy0339 said:
I came from the evo 3D. I love the phone, but the reception on it is horrible. I'm sitting in the same spot and it fluctuates between 5/6 bars and 0. Its definitely worse than the Evo 3D's reception problem.
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People really shouldn't be judging reception by the number of bars shown. I came from the Photon, and everyone was saying it got great reception compared to the Evo3D because Motorola decided to cheat and just display more bars at the same level off reception.
The true measure of reception is the number of dBm under Settings => About phone => Status => Signal strength.
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The first time I used the gps, it couldn't get a fix. I let it sit for about ten minutes outside during a clear night and never locked on. I entered the dialer code ##GPSCLRX# then entered my MSL to reset my gps. The next day I tried it again and got a lock in about 10 seconds. Its worked fine ever since.
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Thanks, phatman, for sharing this info. Hadn't seen this dialer code previously.
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People really shouldn't be judging reception by the number of bars shown. I came from the Photon, and everyone was saying it got great reception compared to the Evo3D because Motorola decided to cheat and just display more bars at the same level off reception.
The true measure of reception is the number of dBm under Settings => About phone => Status => Signal strength.
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i agree , i think people should start posting there signal strengths in that form instead of 2 bars or 4
Coming from the Evo 4G:
Battery life (stock) - Better, but nothing mind blowing. I have Exchange Active Sync set up for work, and I assume that's a real battery killer. I get another hour, maybe two over the Evo, but it's still not an all day phone.
GPS performance - I haven't had any problem with locking, but I did have one peculiar experience where the Nav program constantly had me on a different street and kept remapping the route. A reboot may have worked, but I closed the Nav program and followed the regular map. I'll have to keep an eye on this,
Overall speed (I will replace touchwiz with Launcher Pro or ADW Launcher) - Soooo much faster. Pretty much every function on the ET is 2-5 times faster than the Evo. Even little things like checking email or making a phone call fly on the ET. It just snaps from screen to screen in a way that makes the Evo look really slow. I assumed I would install LauncherPro, but I've kept TW because it's not getting in my way. And it's really nice not having Sense crash on me 5 times a day. I could reboot the ET in the time it took Sense to recover from the frequent crashes. Since Sense has no program dock (just the phone app), I couldn't do anything while it was restarting.
Signal stability - 4G is leagues better on the ET. It locks faster, it's more stable, and I can get it in places the Evo couldn't lock. It will sleep when used, which means it's not eating up the battery simply by being on. And it doesn't slow down the phone like it did on the Evo. 3G is about the same, I don't really see it as that much worse, and ditto for wifi.
Call/audio quality both speaker and mic - The speaker is louder on the ET, and the call quality is leaps and bounds better. I can make clear calls in places where the Evo would crackle so much it was unintelligible. It's not just a little better -- it's like night and day.
The camera is great, and the camera program is amazing. You can make shortcuts to your most used features. In addition to flash, you can toggle three other features like exposure or speed using a shortcut button. And there is no contest with video recording -- the ET is grossly superior.
I don't miss Sense at all. I never used most of the widgets because of battery issues, and the TW dialer is better than the Sense dialer (I love the swipe left or right to call or text) and it's easier to dial contacts who have a cell and home number. And I like that I can dock two programs of my choice as opposed to none in Sense. Also, TW has never crashed on me.
The App Drawer takes a little getting used to. It scrolls side to side like iOS, and it's slower than flicking to scroll up and down. But it does segregate your most recently installed apps which makes them easier to find. There were a lot of times on my Evo when I couldn't remember the name of the app I had installed two minutes ago. Plus, you can set up folders in the App Drawer to better organize it.
The thinness and lightness has to be experienced to appreciate. The Evo feels like a tiny brick in my hands now. Reading Kindle in bed is less fatiguing with the ET, and with the volume rocker on the other side, flipping pages using volume keys and holding it with my left hand makes it even more ergonomic.
There's really nothing substantial that I miss from my Evo -- there's barely anything minor that I miss. The few things (the security lock timeout is ludicrously implemented and the lockscreen itself is awkward to use) have been remedied by apps.
Just checked gps outside in a car.
Wouldn't lock at all (kernel+rom flashing must have taken its toll.)
I then did GPSCLRX trick, and the gps locked in instantly.
I came from the evo 4g and I love this phone. I'm rooted with the stock pulled kernel and haven't had any issues. IMO, touchwiz is so much nicer then sense and i loved sense. Battery life is phenomenal, I'm a heavy user and my battery lasts all day. GPS locks on quick with no problems, signal seems to be the same to me. This phone is ridiculously fast. The only time I've had the Los issue is when I use a task manager and even then it only stays in Los for a couple seconds. I would take the plunge, its the best phone I've ever owned. But that's just been my experience on it
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dodgeboy said:
I've had a EVO and currently have a EVO 3D. I'm considering taking the plunge with a E4GT. I'd like to hear from some of you that have also made this same move. What do you like/dislike about the new phone? I read a post from one person that had made the move, and gained some valuable insight. I couldn't find any others, so I'm posting this.
Things I'm most interested in hearing about:
Battery life (stock)There is a bug some run into but even with the bug (read many threads on here) its still better than my Evos
GPS performancePerfectly fine
Overall speed (I will replace touchwiz with Launcher Pro or ADW Launcher)the most responsive phone in the world, don't diss touchwiz till you try it either
Signal stabilityfine for me others have issues, ever so slightly weaker than the Evo (barely) but it reports less bars for the same signal so it seems exaggerated when its not.
Call/audio quality both speaker and mic perfectly fine
Anything else you've noticed that you like or dislike
like: the amazing screen and speed
dislike: wifi reception blows giant donkey ****
Thanks in advance!
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Came from an EVO 4G. If there was one thing that I would recommend to those getting this phone is to keep the stock kernel.
I rooted & changed kernels and pretty much had all the problems that have been mentioned here and in other threads: loss of signal, GPS delays, terrible battery life. I went back, rooted and kept the kernel stock and I have had absolutely noneof those issues again.
I love the phone. Truly.
Ran both side by side for two weeks straight. Both are good devices. Chose the 3d in the end. The only edge the gsII had was the 8mp camera, but I'm a fan of the 3d feature so I don't mind the very slight trade off. Actually posted side by side pics from both devices for comparison. Not much of a difference. The bigger screen on the GsII is nice, but the lack of resolution takes away from that feature. The two devices are very compatible in every other way in my opinion.
Got rid of the 3D for this, and am very happy I did. Call reception/quality is so much better, I was tired of dropped calls on the 3D. The camera quality crushes the 3D, sure no more 3D pics but after 2 weeks I never even turned 3D on anymore. This device is a bit snappier, I was also shocked to get better battery life. I remember the debate between the cores of both phones and the 3D was the winner as this core was going to chew up the battery. Thats not the case at all, I can go a full work day (12 hours) with heavy data use
The back of my phone is really heating up with only moderate use. Only a few minutes of youtube or angry birds will get the phone hot. The hot spot is only on the right side of the rear camera, or the backside of the front camera, however you wanna see it
Has anyone had the same problem?
My phone gets warm playing wind up knight. I haven't experienced hot yet.
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when i've been using mine for a while and then make a call it is rather warm around the earpiece, dunno if thats normal or not.
Your thread title implies the phone is having a problem (ie. crashing, stuttering, FC) getting warm isn't really 'overheating' many mobile devices get pretty darn warm during intensive activities.
Are you experiencing a problem?
I just used my nexus as a wifi tether for my laptop for 3 hours, while charging off a usb cable and usually I get high temperatures usually when doing this with other phones, however nexus was cool to the touch after all this... haven't noticed much heat ever with this phone.... however I'm not a big gamer either.
Facing the front of the screen, the top right corner in an L shape seems to heat up quite a bit - from something medium intensive like web browsing.
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Your thread title implies the phone is having a problem (ie. crashing, stuttering, FC) getting warm isn't really 'overheating' many mobile devices get pretty darn warm during intensive activities.
Are you experiencing a problem?
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No the title does not imply crashing of stuttering. If I did it would have the word 'crashing' or 'stuttering' in it.The title implies exactly what I'm getting. The phone overheat strongly in one spot , from very normal use. Not intensive tasks.
I haven't had FCs or anything like that so far. But it does get pretty hot. It is alarming if I may say.
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Facing the front of the screen, the top right corner in an L shape seems to heat up quite a bit - from something medium intensive like web browsing.
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Yes this is exactly what I'm getting. So its not only me.
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ok, so it is heating up... not overheating. Mine gets pretty warm too but no adverse effects so far.
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Yes this is exactly what I'm getting. So its not only me.
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I have a feeling there is something in that corner that is dissipating the heat. I have a battery temp monitor and when it was really hot in that corner, my battery temp was 40C (30C seems to be normal idle temp) - but the center of the phone where the actual battery is doesn't feel hot.
So I'm assuming the heat is drawn to that corner.
Another thing I noticed (comparing to my previous phone) is that even though it got hot, it cools fast as well.
I get the same issue as well. But it wasnt particularly alarming since my Captivate, Infuse, and Skyrocket did the exact same thing. I have used the captivate and infuse for a long time now. The captivate was purchasd on launch day last year and has been passed down to my girlfriend, infuse is still being used daily by me since launch day as well, and the skyrocket (least used phone) was JUST sold for the funds to get my new gnexus. All of these phones have the same issue. I just figured Samsung phones get warm but thats it.
My phone is fine. I don't even get warm unless playing a 3d game. Charging is unusually cool. And I haven't even felt warmth from heavy hspa use.
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to be honest...mine does seem to be getting rather excessively warm at the top right on both the front and back side...it's around where the RAM chip is on the PCB or could be around the CPU (which is more central but *shrug*). I cant think it's normal since i've never had a warm ear when i've been making a call with any phone i've had before!
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My phone is fine. I don't even get warm unless playing a 3d game. Charging is unusually cool. And I haven't even felt warmth from heavy hspa use.
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You lied to us.
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My GN can be "very" warm at the back where the rear camera is. By playing 720p/1080p video files. Heavy HW decoding I believe.
So there is something. Can't believe no tech news site reported this before. Giving how quickly everyone rushed out to point a flaw the GN.
Has anyone contacted any Samsung rep on twitter or something? Who do we raise our concerns to?
I'm wondering if i should get my phone returned as DOA (since i need to do that by monday) with the getting quite hot and sleep of death and random reboots :|
i havent owned a high end phone like this though, and it's personally my first android phone (other people in the household have had one that i've mucked about with) so i dont actually know what to expect from it really...
I watched a netflix movie over mhl. The nexus got fairly warm. Still no overheating issues or reboots for me.
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There is nothing wrong with it....... LOL "overheating" denotes your phone is crashing,stuttering,melting,burning or warning you that its hot....ect. So far nobody in this thread has this issue sooooo..... If the device is functioning properly then its not "overheating" as your thread title suggests. You should have put....does your phone get warm? Yes, just like computer processors they must get rid of the heat somehow this one dissipates it in the back just like most other phones.
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You should have put....does your phone get warm? Yes, just like computer processors they must get rid of the heat somehow this one dissipates it in the back just like most other phones.
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except...the front is getting rather warm too. Doing simple things. Is that normal? Probably not. And excess heat + displays = bad. Also rather uncomfortable when you're making a call...if people use phones for calls anymore
Time for the eligible upgrade on Verizon for my wife's line. She has my old original Moto Droid and I have the Charge. Gonna pass my Charge on to her and I am for obvious reason leaning heavily towards the G-Nex.
I know there will be fans of other phones out there telling me to get 'x' instead. (then get out of the G-Nex forums trolls !!)
It has been in the wild a little while now. What are your honest impressions? I am expecting a little less crisp display than I have on the charge, and that's okay. I don't watch videos on the phone.
So long as I can achieve an easy down and dirty root to use wifi tether on my laptop in my truck, I'll be happy. No doubt in time, I'l start playing with different ROMS but I'm in no great hurry there. Development is still in the early stages for the LTE but as time goes on they will be refined and nice solid ones will come out.
Hell, with her having wifi with my charge, I might even get rid of comcast net and just use the phones. We're grandfathered in to unlimited.
Anyone out there think I could do better than this phone before I buy it?
I've had it for 2 weeks now and overall I am as happy as can be. No need to list the awesome qualities since we all know them so here are the gripes:
Let's get this out of the way first -- the screen:
It's not as bad as a lot of people are saying. I got to compare it to my friend's Galaxy S II (who just switched to Verizon in order to get the G'nex after playing with mine...) and yes, large areas of darker solid color have a 'linen' or 'grainy' pattern. It's noticeable in the menus the most. FORTUNATELY, with the brightness set to 60-75% the whites don't have that texture which is the most common large area of a single color.
Otherwise, it's not really that noticeable. In normal use, games, browser, etc you don't really ever see it.
The screen also has a yellowish tint but that seems to be the norm these days. As long as you aren't comparing it to another source of "white" your eyes just make the adjustment. iPhones still have the whitest whites but their screen is tiny.
The volume rocker tends to get in the way when playing games in landscape; maybe I'm just holding it wrong though.
The camera quality really is pretty bad compared to what it could be - not megapixels though, I'm one of those who argues megapixels aren't everything - but the picture quality even in bright light isn't that great if you zoom in all the way. Things are pixelated much more than I'd like.
BUT it's a camera phone. I have a DSLR for "real" photos. These are just fine for facebook, taking pictures for reference later, etc. It's still better than the HTC EVO!
The only notification light color is white but that can be fixed with apps.
External speaker is somewhat quiet but so long as I don't have to replace it twice (EVO!) I'm happy with it.
--end cons--
Also, the battery life is great. No problem going a day on a charge without playing games. Light use gets me 12 hours with 50% left.
You really can't get a better phone right now. I'm sure you can in 2-3 months but it will be a carrier modified phone with a locked bootloader, etc.
I say go for it!
thats what I did gave my wife the charge and got the nexus. I tried the razor and took it back the next day. I have no regrets about the nexus. for a new device I had zero bugs in that I can think of. I'm sure I will regret it after ces next month but thats a never ending story with cell phones now adays.
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Yeah like I said, I've read some of the gripes about the phone. Having the Charge currently, which has an incrdible display for clarity and brightness, I expect a bit of degradation there. S'okay ... I don't really game on the phone either.
As for the next latest and greatest? Pfft .... you could drive yourself nutz with that one!! The landscape has been pretty quiet now since all of the phones that made it out prior to the holidays. You may not see some breathtakingly new device come out before summer at the earliest and maybe even next holiday season. I'm not too worried about that.
I was glad to hear the battery life is fair. Does anyone know if Juice Defender is compatible with ICS ? I use the ultimate on my phone and it works well.
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I was glad to hear the battery life is fair. Does anyone know if Juice Defender is compatible with ICS ? I use the ultimate on my phone and it works well.
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I only managed to try Juice Defender Ultimate 3.8.0 and it seemed like it worked but the battery life felt worse with it on imo. Could be that JD just isn't ICS compatible to 100% in 3.8.0.
Oh and it also started screwing with my screen. When I unlock, the screen is unresponsive until i manage to somehow reboot the phone by holding the power button down. Didn't get anything like that again when i uninstalled it until last night again, but after checking my phones internal memory there was some juice defender folders left so it may still be conflicting. Will do a factory reset.
Otherwise - Go for it!! Really happy with the phone. And tbh all the negative stuff on this forum is a really serious case of buyers remorse. The things people on this forum notice, normal people NEVER notice. It's normal though. When you pay a substantial amount of money for a phone you're bound to look for the con's rather than appreciate the pro's.
I never noticed anything with my phone until I logged onto XDA and found some threads. Then and only then do I actually notice "faults" (if you can call them that), and even then I have to look really hard... I wouldnt read the crying going on in this forum. I'd just be really happy with the device because it's a great piece of kit. I don't mind miniscule hiccups or faults. People on this forum have a hawk eye for things and dont settle until it's PERFECT lol.
The batterylife was really crap for me the first 2-3 days but that was also with heavy useage since I had just bought it. I find it to be really good now. I can easily go through a whole day and still have 46%-50% battery left before charging during the night.
The camera is alright and in light conditions I find it to be pretty good actually. Low light conditions is fine too but it's no DSLR of course. I don't find the flash making the pictures all "yellow" like someone said on the forums.
Well. Ive had G nexus since verizon release an all the ticky tack issues, screen burn in low volume, reception, non gorilla glass, unhidable buttons poor camera an several more have definatly help me decide that its (imo) a cheaply put to market phone. If it wasnt for ICS this phone would already be a flop. You ask is there anything else out there, well i have for a week been using predominantly a Galaxy Note. Yes it has 2.3 but it will be getting ics soon. Has gorilla glass sweet screen great camera, an great benchmarks across the board. Note is import so no Lte, but where i am at average 7-10mgps on ATT anyway so i dont miss lte. The note is considerable bigger than nexus, but at my age much easier on my eyes. Gluck
If I were going to stay away from the G-Nex I would just get a second Droid Charge. It's a fine phone IMO. The Glass and buttons and stuff? You knew about that stuff before you bought the phone so shame on you !! Or at least you SHOULD have known. I wouldn't pop for 300 bones without a little bit of research first. I'm thinking for $50 more than the Charge, I'll be pleased with it.
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Yeah like I said, I've read some of the gripes about the phone. Having the Charge currently, which has an incrdible display for clarity and brightness, I expect a bit of degradation there. S'okay ... I don't really game on the phone either.
As for the next latest and greatest? Pfft .... you could drive yourself nutz with that one!! The landscape has been pretty quiet now since all of the phones that made it out prior to the holidays. You may not see some breathtakingly new device come out before summer at the earliest and maybe even next holiday season. I'm not too worried about that.
I was glad to hear the battery life is fair. Does anyone know if Juice Defender is compatible with ICS ? I use the ultimate on my phone and it works well.
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The screen on the Galaxy nexus is way better than any SuperAmoled Plus screen
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I only managed to try Juice Defender Ultimate 3.8.0 and it seemed like it worked but the battery life felt worse with it on imo. Could be that JD just isn't ICS compatible to 100% in 3.8.0.
Oh and it also started screwing with my screen. When I unlock, the screen is unresponsive until i manage to somehow reboot the phone by holding the power button down. Didn't get anything like that again when i uninstalled it until last night again, but after checking my phones internal memory there was some juice defender folders left so it may still be conflicting. Will do a factory reset.
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If you've paid for Juice Defender Ultimate, why would you not try the latest version? Also, did you have the CPU throttling options enabled? There are a couple of the options that have the yellow lettering marking them as experimental that when I enable on my Charge it gives the same indications you describe above. Leaving those disabled but using all other JD features go a long ways to saving battery on my Charge. I don't know if it will work with ICS but that's my experience on the Charge running both Infinity and stock 2.3.6 rooted.
Edit: Current JD version is 3.8.8 .... anyone running it on ICS? With what results?
All,
So this is my first foray into the Android world, coming from an iPhone 4 that I liked but have been bored with for quite some time.
First impressions are mostly positive. The phone is obviously built well and sits in the hand fine despite its large size. The screen is great - more than enough brightness, extremely crisp text and great colors. The thing is extremely fast - pretty much no lag that I can find, even when I turn on ECO mode. I just got it this afternoon and used it with the charge it had from the box, so I can't comment fully on battery life yet. But it seems to be power hungry so far, though that was doing a lot of initial syncing and keeping the screen on a good bit.
Camera, as several reviews said, is average at best.
If you have any questions about it, let me know and I'll give my findings. I do have a couple of issues, though:
1. The phone gets quite warm, even after the mystery update. And I'm talking about just surfing the net and downloading apps - no games or anything intensive at all. If you try to turn the display up past 80 or 90%, you get an alert saying "Unable to further brighten due to temperature increase. Try again later." While it's plenty bright at 50%, this is completely unacceptable. If they don't do something about that quickly, I'm probably returning it.
2. I can't find a way to disable LTE. I'm getting 25-30mbit down here in north Atlanta, but I won't need that a lot of the time. I'd prefer to put it on HSPA+ to save battery (and, presumably, keep the thing cool.)
3. Voice Dial stinks. It "gets" what I'm asking for through my Motorola Roadster 2 speakerphone about 20% of the time. This worked 90% of the time with my iPhone. Not sure if there's a better dialer, or if this will improve with Jelly Bean.
Any input appreciated. I'll probably root it tonight or tomorrow, so if anyone needs anything (safe) for bootloader purposes just let me know.
-A
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All,
So this is my first foray into the Android world, coming from an iPhone 4 that I liked but have been bored with for quite some time.
First impressions are mostly positive. The phone is obviously built well and sits in the hand fine despite its large size. The screen is great - more than enough brightness, extremely crisp text and great colors. The thing is extremely fast - pretty much no lag that I can find, even when I turn on ECO mode. I just got it this afternoon and used it with the charge it had from the box, so I can't comment fully on battery life yet. But it seems to be power hungry so far, though that was doing a lot of initial syncing and keeping the screen on a good bit.
Camera, as several reviews said, is average at best.
If you have any questions about it, let me know and I'll give my findings. I do have a couple of issues, though:
1. The phone gets quite warm, even after the mystery update. And I'm talking about just surfing the net and downloading apps - no games or anything intensive at all. If you try to turn the display up past 80 or 90%, you get an alert saying "Unable to further brighten due to temperature increase. Try again later." While it's plenty bright at 50%, this is completely unacceptable. If they don't do something about that quickly, I'm probably returning it.
2. I can't find a way to disable LTE. I'm getting 25-30mbit down here in north Atlanta, but I won't need that a lot of the time. I'd prefer to put it on HSPA+ to save battery (and, presumably, keep the thing cool.)
3. Voice Dial stinks. It "gets" what I'm asking for through my Motorola Roadster 2 speakerphone about 20% of the time. This worked 90% of the time with my iPhone. Not sure if there's a better dialer, or if this will improve with Jelly Bean.
Any input appreciated. I'll probably root it tonight or tomorrow, so if anyone needs anything (safe) for bootloader purposes just let me know.
-A
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Thanks for doing this, i too have and iphone 4, can you please tell me compared to the 4, how loud and clear is the speaker compared to the iphone 4? Thanks!
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All,
So this is my first foray into the Android world, coming from an iPhone 4 that I liked but have been bored with for quite some time.
First impressions are mostly positive. The phone is obviously built well and sits in the hand fine despite its large size. The screen is great - more than enough brightness, extremely crisp text and great colors. The thing is extremely fast - pretty much no lag that I can find, even when I turn on ECO mode. I just got it this afternoon and used it with the charge it had from the box, so I can't comment fully on battery life yet. But it seems to be power hungry so far, though that was doing a lot of initial syncing and keeping the screen on a good bit.
Camera, as several reviews said, is average at best.
If you have any questions about it, let me know and I'll give my findings. I do have a couple of issues, though:
1. The phone gets quite warm, even after the mystery update. And I'm talking about just surfing the net and downloading apps - no games or anything intensive at all. If you try to turn the display up past 80 or 90%, you get an alert saying "Unable to further brighten due to temperature increase. Try again later." While it's plenty bright at 50%, this is completely unacceptable. If they don't do something about that quickly, I'm probably returning it.
2. I can't find a way to disable LTE. I'm getting 25-30mbit down here in north Atlanta, but I won't need that a lot of the time. I'd prefer to put it on HSPA+ to save battery (and, presumably, keep the thing cool.)
3. Voice Dial stinks. It "gets" what I'm asking for through my Motorola Roadster 2 speakerphone about 20% of the time. This worked 90% of the time with my iPhone. Not sure if there's a better dialer, or if this will improve with Jelly Bean.
Any input appreciated. I'll probably root it tonight or tomorrow, so if anyone needs anything (safe) for bootloader purposes just let me know.
-A
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Thanks for the update. I was planning on picking one up tomorrow, but there seems to be more overwhelming negatives than positives from those that got theirs early. I think Google may have really dropped the ball on anointing LG as their official hardware vendor for the Nexus 4. There seems to be widespread overheating issues with the Nexus 4 which shares the exact same hardware as the Optimus G, sans LTE of course. Cause for concern of the reliability of the internal components as well as the glass back having cracked in 2 review units is pretty disheartening, think I'm going to hold off for now.
1. OG has auto bright limit. Proportionately with temp, phone apply bright limit. It is not a hardware trouble.
If your phone is too hot, return it.
2. Try *147359# at dial. It may show popup menu.
So far no problems, one thing is annoying - notification LED is on the power button, can't really see it, also doesn't stay on, just blinks once, kinda dumb.
So I really am liking this phone. Its not perfect, but its incredibly fast, has a great screen, and has some good customization possibilities.
Going to try Eco mode tomorrow to see how it performs and compare battery life. Seen some reviews that say it nearly doubles battery life, which would make it quite good.
The code mentioned above gave me an error, so I'm still looking for a way to turn off 4G.
As for the heat, I got that message in the parking lot at after I got it and again when it was plugged in, but its cool now on the couch.
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I've had no issues with the temp on mine as of now. But then again I set my brightness at 63%. My lite blinks more then once but it only blinks I think like every 30 seconds or so. I'm still watching that I could be wrong. Going to to a you tube review on this tomorrow. I will post it here and on the at&t optimus g forum as well. So far I'm loving this phone.
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I just switched from iphone 4 to this too and I gotta say it feels ridiculous looking at how small the iphone 4 screen is now after getting used to this.
For me the biggest complaints are the camera. I really don't like the quality and the other is the width. I can't get used to holding it. This is probably just a personal problem but it's feels too wide for me.
Other than that it's a great phone. Very fast sans project butter.
Oh n I don't think I can go back to iphone
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Agreed. The camera is average.
Back on the heat thing. For whatever reason, I haven't had any more heat problems since the first couple of days. No issues.
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Further overall impression after several days of use:
1. Battery life is so-so. Getting through a whole day is a 50/50 proposition, which is a significant drop from my old iPhone 4.
2. Camera, as mentioned, is mediocre.
3. Speed is still great.
4. Screen is still great.
5. Sound is pretty good, but not as good as iPhone 4. Signal from the headphone jack is a bit quieter than i4.
6. Internal speaker is kind of tinny and weak.
7. Voice calls over ear piece are plenty loud and sound good.
I really want to like this phone, but I'm coming up with some limitations. We'll see what happens with the development, which could help #1 and that's my biggest concern.
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I personally like the camera. Better then my sg3
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All I can say High Quality phone. And the software is sooo smooth
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Yeah, in liking it and will probably keep it. Just being very particular.
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Yeah, in liking it and will probably keep it. Just being very particular.
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Being "very particular" is good in my book. Thanks to everyone on this thread. I hope to see a lot more join in.
On the heat issue, based on my experience with my DInc...
Charging really heats the battery, so doing anything will lead towards overheating.
Holding it in your hand (the more skin contact the worse) or laying it on it's back (worse on a soft surface) prevents heat from escaping.
Releasing heat (IMO) is best done screen down, propped up against something, so that the phone is barely touching any surface. (Alternatively, lay it screen up on a cold hard surface, and move it periodically... contradicting my previous point.)
I'm itching to upgrade, but I'm waiting to see what's what. The LGOG is the current point of reference for all other droids out there. So I'm really hoping to hear many good things (esp. root and unlocked bootloader). But I also really want to hear all of the nitpicking details, because I expect "perfection" from everything. [OT] Yes, I am disappointed a lot of the time. After all, I'm using Microsoft at work and home. [/OT]
For the LED thing, do any market apps work on this?
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After a week
After owning this phone for about a week and using the Note 2, Galaxy s3, and the One X+ for a bit, I think this is the best phone out there as far as fluidity goes, and its not even on jelly bean. I wish I can rip off the camera on One X+ and glue it on the optimus G but oh well.
If you're holding out because its not perfect, you're right its not. But you'll be hard pressed to find a phone besting this in the 4.7" form factor for a while. Now if you want to go to a phablet, I would suggest you to try the Note 2 for a bit, but you have to make sure you don't wear skinny jeans, have big hands, are proud of yourself (people look at you when you hold it up to your head) or not scared of face cancer (it warms up your face like nothing when talking for a while). But it's a real great phone, I wish there was a Note 2 mini with the same specs.
Of course, there is the Nexus 4, which I got to play with once, for like 5 minutes, and that was awesome. Sadly, you know all about what it's missing, and personally, I thought that between Jelly Bean 4.2 and no microD or LTE, I would go sans Jelly Bean 4.2. I can live with Jelly bean 4.1.
I dropped my screen brightness about 5% each day till i got used to it and now my optimus G lasts longer and I have no problem looking at a < 40% screen brightness indoors. =/ It helps with the heat.. actually I don't feel much heat anymore either and I still dont use the eco mode. It would be nice if it could automatically use eco for less intensive things and then switch to full for games, but it seems to just stay at eco the whole time.
Hope this helps anyone being on the fence. Oh and I use atnt
I actually prefer my optimus g over my nexus. Better battery life. Plus I scores better on benchmarks.
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I actually prefer my optimus g over my nexus. Better battery life. Plus I scores better on benchmarks.
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Funny how that is even possible when internally it's identical?
A lot of people really like this phone. Wondering how it compares to the SG3 though?
Muffinman51432 said:
Funny how that is even possible when internally it's identical?
A lot of people really like this phone. Wondering how it compares to the SG3 though?
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They aren't identical. From an operation perspective they have different OS and different radio.
Seems like JB for phones isn't "fully baked" (or at least not for these LG devices). Anandtech got better performance out of the N4, when they chilled it in the freezer 1st.
dbgeek said:
They aren't identical. From an operation perspective they have different OS and different radio.
Seems like JB for phones isn't "fully baked" (or at least not for these LG devices). Anandtech got better performance out of the N4, when they chilled it in the freezer 1st.
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True,what I really meant was same processor/ram, however much more to the phone. I want a phone today, however the N4 looks better in some ways the LGOG in more. If I wasn't sick i would be at AT&T or Best buy right now