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Crazy lag??

Omg guyz are you guys getting this 1.3453379 millisecond lag when you push the home button? It's sooo annoying omg.
This phone sucks! I'm taking it back. Get this...I asked it to make coffee for me this morning, and it just laid there doing nothing!! What a POS!
Seriously people, this is what you guys complaining about stupid things sound like. I have a feeling the people complaining are either 13 years old, or have absolutely no life.
This phone is awesome in every way possible. The screen is HUGE, bright and bold. The colors are vibrant. The GPS locks in almost immediately. The speed is fast. It does have a slight lag when you push the home button but it's literally a millisecond long. Who the hell cares?
If you're on the fence about the phone, go and get it...NOW!
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I was thinking about this myself yesterday. There's a line of tolerance that you have to set for yourself with these things. Sometimes I think that it's not that the people don't like the phone, it's that they are having the "grass is always greener on the other side of the fence" mentality. In the end of the day it's just a phone!
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+1 jorge
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we went through this same crap when the sensaion came out. people were like this phone is such a piece of crap cause i ordered waffles and the waitress brought me eggs....i feel your pain most of these people with this phone will go away once development kicks off for this awesome device. I know its hard but try to ignore the stupid posts and they usually go away.

Is it possible that the home screen button lag is because double tapping home opens the touchwiz "voice talk" feature, and the phone hesitates for a fraction of a second incase it's a double tap? Do other non-tmobile SGSII's have this feature and behave the same way?

good point blue biscuit!!

Good call, can't wait to be able to remove that feature with CM7 (at least re-map it). If you guys want a nice sign of speed go to the gallery. I'm blown away at how fast all the images just drop into the gallery when you load it. Maybe that's just me though, coming from the HD2 with android...

With new phones comes new complaints and true they will go away once the phone has been out for a while. I really think people just need a way to vent. I got this phone and it didn't have siri. The phone looked like an iphone but didn't have itunes. Irritating but it's as easy as just ignore their posts.
Seriously people, if you have a problem just ask for help. Starting a new thread to ***** and moan is not going to solve the problem. If you get no help here and want to return it. Do it queitly and move on. Now I'm going back to playing with my phone. It's going to be making me lunch in a little bit and I don't want to miss that. This thing makes great eggs.

Blue Biscuit said:
Is it possible that the home screen button lag is because double tapping home opens the touchwiz "voice talk" feature, and the phone hesitates for a fraction of a second incase it's a double tap? Do other non-tmobile SGSII's have this feature and behave the same way?
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Very good question. The home button lag is odd and seems deliberate, no?
Regardless, there is no question this phone is slower than the other SGS II.

Jjday7 said:
With new phones comes new complaints and true they will go away once the phone has been out for a while. I really think people just need a way to vent. I got this phone and it didn't have siri. The phone looked like an iphone but didn't have itunes. Irritating but it's as easy as just ignore their posts.
Seriously people, if you have a problem just ask for help. Starting a new thread to ***** and moan is not going to solve the problem. If you get no help here and want to return it. Do it queitly and move on. Now I'm going back to playing with my phone. It's going to be making me lunch in a little bit and I don't want to miss that. This thing makes great eggs.
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Best eggs Benedict I've ever had this morning!

Get this phone!!! Don't listen to the winers
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Anyone else's gnex have these weird "blotches" on a totally black screen?

I had to up the contrast quite a bit for what I am talking about to show up in a photo, but you can see it here: http://i.imgur.com/TLYe4.jpg
When my screen is totally black, there are 2 "blotches" of the screen that are darker than the rest. They are not image defects, as it happens on any totally black screen.
I like this phone, but all these screen issues are annoying!

what rom kernel?

zephiK said:
what rom kernel?
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Completely stock Android 4.0.2
EDIT: Because you look like you know what you're talking about, I might as well ask you another question here
If I follow these instructions to flash 4.0.4 yakju on my phone currently running 4.0.2 yakjuux, must I be rooted, or will unlocking the bootloader be enough to upgrade?

I have these too. Even at exact location. But i notice it only at totally dark room.

maybe if you still have your trial period you can return it and get another one? ... ive never noticed these but those issues seem very minor
i know if you flash a kernel with colorcontrol you might be able to tune it to the way you like it.

zephiK said:
maybe if you still have your trial period you can return it and get another one? ... ive never noticed these but those issues seem very minor
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Ehh, I'm with WIND mobile here and they tend to just exchange your phone with one that someone else has returned. I am probably just gonna deal with it. It's certainly not noticeable in every day use, it's just something I noticed while looking at my screen last night in the dark.

As a workaround, you can change your wallpaper so its not dark dark dark

blackdesp said:
I have these too. Even at exact location. But i notice it only at totally dark room.
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I'm gonna assume it's just a defect that shows up in super low light then.
Lots of QC issues with this phone it seems. How Samsung AND Google OK'd it is beyond me, lol.
Oh well, it's better than a lot of crap out there, so I will stick with it for a few years.

Matt08642 said:
I'm gonna assume it's just a defect that shows up in super low light then.
Lots of QC issues with this phone it seems. How Samsung AND Google OK'd it is beyond me, lol.
Oh well, it's better than a lot of crap out there, so I will stick with it for a few years.
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Google only does the software. Samsung does the hardware.
If anything blame Samsung. There is always a chance of a defect when it comes to production.
But yeah.. it'll have updates from Google and dev support.

Matt08642 said:
I'm gonna assume it's just a defect that shows up in super low light then.
Lots of QC issues with this phone it seems. How Samsung AND Google OK'd it is beyond me, lol.
Oh well, it's better than a lot of crap out there, so I will stick with it for a few years.
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we have to suffer for these issues as early adopters for 720p super amoled screens. I think these are not QC issues. These are the known issues for a still developing technology.

blackdesp said:
we have to suffer for these issues as early adopters for 720p super amoled screens. I think these are not QC issues. These are the known issues for a still developing technology.
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If future gen screens are free of these problems I'll definitely still be all for them

that is a common manufacture defect of amoled screens not just our 720p screens. theres people on the razr forums complaining of this too and motorola said its a manufacturing defect that affects lots of amoled screens. i suspect lots of people have this problem just that they dont notice since you cant see them under normal use.
i have these black splotches too but can only see them when i put a black screen in a dark room, never see them when i use normally or watching videos.

neotekz said:
that is a common manufacture defect of amoled screens not just our 720p screens. theres people on the razr forums complaining of this too and motorola said its a manufacturing defect that affects lots of amoled screens. i suspect lots of people have this problem just that they dont notice since you cant see them under normal use.
i have these black splotches too but can only see them when i put a black screen in a dark room, never see them when i use normally or watching videos.
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I'm interested in what causes this problem. Any links to info/causes?
EDIT: So many things about this phone have made me want to take it back, but then I realize I already have the best phone on the best carrier in Canada! I hate the lack of selection here, lol.

Matt08642 said:
I'm interested in what causes this problem. Any links to info/causes?
EDIT: So many things about this phone have made me want to take it back, but then I realize I already have the best phone on the best carrier in Canada! I hate the lack of selection here, lol.
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you have the best phone anywhere, not just canada. other phones might be better at certain things but overall the nexus is still the best until the htc one s or gs3 comes out. You are going to find problems with any phone out there most are a lot worst than the ones on the nexus.
i dunno about Wind being the best carrier in canada though...lol i was pretty close to switching to them but just didnt want to deal with all the roaming stuff.

neotekz said:
you have the best phone anywhere, not just canada. other phones might be better at certain things but overall the nexus is still the best until the htc one s or gs3 comes out. You are going to find problems with any phone out there most are a lot worst than the ones on the nexus.
i dunno about Wind being the best carrier in canada though...lol i was pretty close to switching to them but just didnt want to deal with all the roaming stuff.
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I mean best carrier in the sense that everything is unlimited. I rarely ever leave the city so it's good for me.
I am currently in customer service hell. They sent me a full month's bill after 7 days of service, and I can't get a straight answer as to why. Tried calling their service center and was hung up on 3 times in a row.

From my understanding, it's due to pixel pre-charging and/or bad threshold calibration. All of the pixels are kept on just a tiny amount even on black screens to produce smoother a smoother display. It takes a lot longer to turn on an LED from rest than to just bump up the brightness a bit. The LED subpixels are held just above their on/off threshold to give relatively deep blacks with smooth light/dark transitions. In theory this works, because it assumes that each LED is perfectly calibrated and they all have an exact on/off threshold. In reality though, we know that no two LEDs are the same. Some have higher thresholds and some have lower than others. This equates to some deadspots and some bright patches on black screens.
Then again, it could just be a badly manufactured screen or some other issue.
Also, some people say that they never saw anything like pre-charging on other OLED screens like on the GSII, but that's because the GSII has a much lower resolution. The Nexus has a much higher resolution, which means a lot more pixels to push, which means there's a lot more light coming out of black screens. That's what gives some Nexus screens that LCD-Backlight look when in dark rooms. That's a non-issue.

My thoughts on the Samsung Galaxy Nexus (Rant)

I just got my Galaxy Nexus about a week ago - by far the best phone I could ask for (within a reasonable price). Coming from a Motorola Droid X2 (stupid locked bootloader...) I was really looking forward to getting the full potential out of my new phone! The first thing I did with the phone right after I got it was unlock that bootloader - not a single bit of hesitation. After watching many videos, reading guides and doing all the possible research I could, I knew this was a great choice and that I wouldn't mess up.
Flashed TWRP, played with a few ROM's and kernels, and boy - I couldn't be happier. I'm like a kid in a candy store - I'm just doing what I please, getting what I want and more! Oh, I wanna put CWM on instead? Boom. Done. Bored and I wanna flash CM10 for the hell of it? Done! I'm finally done with that stupid bootstrap from my old Droid X2.
But this is all fine and dandy, but there's one thing that bothers me... one thing that just, gets on my nerves afters HOURS of tinkering. That god d*mn Super Amoled Screen. I, cannot for the love me, get this thing perfect. After countless hours, numerous kernels and apps... there's always that tiny bit of a discoloring; yellow-ish to be exact. I just can't get it to go away... The screen is great an all, but i'd rather have a "not as good" screen with accurate colors than one that tints on me. This is really only noticable with grays, whites and rarely blacks - but it's just a pest.
I just wanna slam my face in the desk sometimes because I just can't get it... but it looks like almost no one else can either.
For discussion sake, what is your input on the screen? Anything anyone else would like to add?

IAreKyleW00t said:
I just got my Galaxy Nexus about a week ago - by far the best phone I could ask for (within a reasonable price). Coming from a Motorola Droid X2 (stupid locked bootloader...) I was really looking forward to getting the full potential out of my new phone! The first thing I did with the phone right after I got it was unlock that bootloader - not a single bit of hesitation. After watching many videos, reading guides and doing all the possible research I could, I knew this was a great choice and that I wouldn't mess up.
Flashed TWRP, played with a few ROM's and kernels, and boy - I couldn't be happier. I'm like a kid in a candy store - I'm just doing what I please, getting what I want and more! Oh, I wanna put CWM on instead? Boom. Done. Bored and I wanna flash CM10 for the hell of it? Done! I'm finally done with that stupid bootstrap from my old Droid X2.
But this is all fine and dandy, but there's one thing that bothers me... one thing that just, gets on my nerves afters HOURS of tinkering. That god d*mn Super Amoled Screen. I, cannot for the love me, get this thing perfect. After countless hours, numerous kernels and apps... there's always that tiny bit of a discoloring; yellow-ish to be exact. I just can't get it to go away... The screen is great an all, but i'd rather have a "not as good" screen with accurate colors than one that tints on me. This is really only noticable with grays, whites and rarely blacks - but it's just a pest.
I just wanna slam my face in the desk sometimes because I just can't get it... but it looks like almost no one else can either.
For discussion sake, what is your input on the screen? Anything anyone else would like to add?
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Play screen roulette, return it and get another one.
Some are fine. Mine is pristine. My wife's screen sucks.

adrynalyne said:
Play screen roulette, return it and get another one.
Some are fine. Mine is pristine. My wife's screen sucks.
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I'm considering it... I'm sure I'd probably get use to it since the effect is small enough than an average person wouldn't even notice; such as my friends. When showing them, they said it looked great!
If I were to return it (which I bought it at a Local BestBuy store), would I need to (or should I) factory reset my device? By that I mean, re-lock the bootloader, stock recovery, stock ROM; just stock everything. I dunno how "uptight" they would be about things like that... Would it even be worth the effort?

IAreKyleW00t said:
I'm considering it... I'm sure I'd probably get use to it since the effect is small enough than an average person wouldn't even notice; such as my friends. When showing them, they said it looked great!
If I were to return it (which I bought it at a Local BestBuy store), would I need to (or should I) factory reset my device? By that I mean, re-lock the bootloader, stock recovery, stock ROM; just stock everything. I dunno how "uptight" they would be about things like that... Would it even be worth the effort?
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Pretty uptight. Return it back to factory condition.

adrynalyne said:
Pretty uptight. Return it back to factory condition.
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I figured as much. I probably would have done that anyways to be safe. Thanks for the feedback. ^_^
Do you think it's worth going through the trouble though? (or anyone else for that matter)

IAreKyleW00t said:
I figured as much. I probably would have done that anyways to be safe. Thanks for the feedback. ^_^
Do you think it's worth going through the trouble though? (or anyone else for that matter)
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If you think you will get used to it and can accept it, then I'd say keep it. However if it irritates you enough to post about it, I'd return it.

you could try playing with the color values (white is white on my screen and no purple tint above 10% brightness)

ooohhaaahh said:
you could try playing with the color values (white is white on my screen and no purple tint above 10% brightness)
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As stated in my first post, I've had tried to do this for hours. But I may try another ROM/kernel and do some more tinkering... I dunno yet. I've played around with CM10, AOKP (current) and I plan to give Codename a shot too..

Flash stock and live with it.
My current ROM:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892807

Soldier-2Point0 said:
Flash stock and live with it.
My current ROM:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892807
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I may try Stock again - but I don't have a GSM/HSPA+ phone. I got the Verizon CMDA/LTE.

I'm with you on this one. Amoled is one of the worst designs in screen tech and even worse in pentile. Don't worry about replacing it, the display will always look off. Its just the nature of the beast. Sad to say Verizon doesnt have a single beastly phone without Amoled. Kinda sucks.
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altimax98 said:
I'm with you on this one. Amoled is one of the worst designs in screen tech and even worse in pentile. Don't worry about replacing it, the display will always look off. Its just the nature of the beast. Sad to say Verizon doesnt have a single beastly phone without Amoled. Kinda sucks.
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SAMOLED HD done right is fine, even PenTile. It just so happens we were the guinea pigs that got it first, and it was perfected on other devices.

altimax98 said:
I'm with you on this one. Amoled is one of the worst designs in screen tech and even worse in pentile. Don't worry about replacing it, the display will always look off. Its just the nature of the beast. Sad to say Verizon doesnt have a single beastly phone without Amoled. Kinda sucks.
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adrynalyne said:
Let me roll my eyes....twice.
SAMOLED HD done right is fine, even PenTile. It just so happens we were the guinea pigs that got it first, and it was perfected on other devices.
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Hahaha, It's not so much that it's a bad screen, it's the fact that it's difficult to get a "good" one. Sure, maybe one here and there, but almost everyone has these issues. :\

IAreKyleW00t said:
Hahaha, It's not so much that it's a bad screen, it's the fact that it's difficult to get a "good" one. Sure, maybe one here and there, but almost everyone has these issues. :\
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Samsung stuck us with the crap ones and left the good 'uns for the GS3.

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Samsung stuck us with the crap ones and left the good 'uns for the GS3.
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I figured as much... why does that not surprise me. xD

Mine had a very slight yellow tint, but enough to annoy me. On AOKP using franco kernel and his tweaker app. Raised the blue muliplier to 237, done. Whites are white now. Ymmv as every screen is different, but I was able to make my slightly off screen dead on with one simple adjustment

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Mine had a very slight yellow tint, but enough to annoy me. On AOKP using franco kernel and his tweaker app. Raised the blue muliplier to 237, done. Whites are white now. Ymmv as every screen is different, but I was able to make my slightly off screen dead on with one simple adjustment
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Where you using the default franco color settings for the rest of the values?

There's a screen calibrating thread stickied in this section. You should check out what others have tried. With trinity I use all 0 for gamma, -5 contrast and 145R 145G 190B. It seems to be pretty good for my eyes...
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My screen's color seems great to me. What bugs me about this phone is the dang screen ghosting that happens. Kind of like a cheap plasma TV. Oh well I love this phone other than that.
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There's a screen calibrating thread stickied in this section.
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+1. And mine is fine. Trinity with the blue turned down a bit. No yellow....

[Q] Note II, To buy? or Not to Buy?

Hey everybody, I am currently a Sprint Customer Who has had the evo 3D since launch. I am in the market for an upgrade, and I am looking at the Note II.
I really like the fact that it is a super powerful phone, and the S-Pen functionality would be of great use to me. Some of the things that I am not sure of have to do with the software...
I noticed with my evo 3D, support was not super quick, and most roms that removed the sense kernel ended up losing 4G and 3D capability, and sometimes even GPS.
I know the GSIII has gained a lot of traction in custom roms, etc, but I don't know if that will be the same for the Note II.
I guess the bottom line here is that I like the Note II, but I don't want TouchWiz, but I still want full functionality especially the 4G and S-Pen. So with that in mind, Do you think this is a good buy?

The difference between this 2 devices is from the earth to the SKY, I been a HTC loyal costumer for over 6 years... this ended when the NOTE 2 came out and so far I LOVE this phone. im pretty sure you will love it too, get a launcher over touchwiz and you will be set.
At first its kind of wow this is too big but now (a week after) its like man look at all those tiny small phones ...
We already have root and some ROMS, so its only a matter of time before we get a big crowd of developers working with us...
go do that swap NOW!!!!
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I just picked up my note 2 from evo3d last night. Once I got home I felt a HUGE disappoint from leaving my 3d woth cm10 coming to touchwiz and how BIG everything is. Day two, im a little more at ease after some sleep.
My biggest issue is just how huge everything is. I know once I root it and change dpi down it may look more normal for me. Im used to using a small font with and small font settings.
However my biggest hurdle is how unstable this thing feels in one hand. I constsntly feel like I may drop it because the only way to truley be able to use one hand and access everything is to rest the phone on your four fingers while using your thumb to navigate. Versus having end of your other fingers having a sturdy hold on left side of phone like normal.
Using the one-handed option does help for typing and such, but its mainly not being able to reach notification bar while having the firm grip versus resting on four fingers.
Having a inner struggle weather I want to keep this or go exchange for the gs3 later today or tomorrow. I use my phone with one hand a lot so thats a huge issue for me.
Has anyone else gone thru this while switching too the note2? If so how long does it take for that too go away.
Also im curious as to what kind of stylus support aosp roms will have. I know it will work for touching the screen but I mean as far as default samsung note apps and such? I know I will be going back to cm10 on this or the gs3. But if we will lose a lot of stylus support then I dont reslly see a need for the note over the gs3 with only .7 inches of extra screen real estate.
Any input would be great! Thanks
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chucktownscitch said:
My biggest issue is just how huge everything is. I know once I root it and change dpi down it may look more normal for me. Im used to using a small font with and small font settings.
Any input would be great! Thanks
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Not sure if you knew, you can make the font smaller. You can go to Settings >> Display >> Font Size. You can select tiny but it won't be as small as the font in 3d. but still it makes the font look better.
I used to own the e3d as well but for me, i'm really glad i went with note 2.

I've had every Evo and happy with going to the Note 2 even from the Evo 4G LTE. I would rather stick Note 2 over S3. I love AMOLED screens and very happy they did the RGB setup instead of pentile and a major reason I went Note 2 over the obvious things.

How about one handing the device? Does it feel comfortable or do you feel you could drop it at any second. Mainly with having to pull noti down?
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Thanks everybody for your input on this matter. I do have a question about the AMOLED screens though. From fiddling with the phones a bit in the store(mainly the GSIII and the EVO4) I have noticed that the AMOLED is much dimmer. I knew the sprint rep wouldn't let me take them outside to see what they look like in the sunlight, but I asked him anyways, just for the reaction. Obviously, it was still a no...
How is direct sunlight use? Especially for those coming from the 3VO to the note II.

eovnu87435ds said:
Thanks everybody for your input on this matter. I do have a question about the AMOLED screens though. From fiddling with the phones a bit in the store(mainly the GSIII and the EVO4) I have noticed that the AMOLED is much dimmer. I knew the sprint rep wouldn't let me take them outside to see what they look like in the sunlight, but I asked him anyways, just for the reaction. Obviously, it was still a no...
How is direct sunlight use? Especially for those coming from the 3VO to the note II.
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Sorry bro but if the sales rep wouldn't walk you outside so you could see a real world difference then go to a different store with better cs ... my sgs3 does great in sunlight as long as you don't stand with the sun on your screen ...side note...I just switched to sgs3 from the note 1..great transition imo
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Unhived__Mind said:
Sorry bro but if the sales rep wouldn't walk you outside so you could see a real world difference then go to a different store with better cs ... my sgs3 does great in sunlight as long as you don't stand with the sun on your screen ...side note...I just switched to sgs3 from the note 1..great transition imo
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Yeah, i was in the little strip store by my work, instead of the full sized nice one that I usually go to. Good to hear about the screen, and I'm surprised anybody would be going from a sgs3 to the original note, glad it works out though!

SO im pretty sure im going to get totally flammed for saying this but here goes and I think you need to hear it.
I too upgraded from an evo 3D. I wont lie the note II is an amazing device and is very fast.
Things I like most about it
-Screen size is very impressive for video especially
-Battery life is incredible you can beat on it all day and still have juice in the evening
-Camera is pretty impressive speed very fast fastest ive ever seen on a phone.
-speaker is pretty good audio nice and loud nice if you dont have headphones with you
Unfortunately for me this is where it stops, and I will repeat these are my own opinions.
Things I do not like
-The hardware home button you have to push it in to make it go home kinda pain in the ass since the back and menu are capacitive buttons sure would be nice if they kept them all the same or even better just made it a capacitive button like most of the other manufactures do Its not an iphone I dont want an iphone...
-Screen very poor performance outside, full brightness and I am still thinking to myself this screen is hard to read out in the sun light or even in the car on a nice sunny day, I suppose if I lived in oregon or Washington state along the coast I would not care but here in sunny california its a problem. The Evo 3D is much easier to read outside in direct sunlight
- You cannot operate the camera while on a phone call. Why ? I have no idea but cant do it. Evo can no problem
- You cannot send a txt msg while on the phone either again why? no idea but my evo 3d sure can and its nice sometimes especially on speaker phone.
-I personally think sense is a pretty nice UI better than touchwiz but thats just me so im glad to be back.
-Memory mapping is a problem on this device your SD card will show up as external SD card not SD card so causes problems with a lot of programs unless you root and use directory bind. I did this seemed to work alright but more of a work around to a problem that should have been addressed at time of manufacture in my opinion.
- Stock browser and I like the stock android browsers they are pretty good but for some reason wont txt wrap when you double click to zoom in so you can read paragraphs of text so I am scrolling back and forth to read and I have the largest screen ive ever had on a phone and still find myself scrolling like crazy, hum.
- Swype does not auto space in the browser when posting things such as this very post annoying.
So those were my biggest complaints with the phone aside from this its a pretty nice device. However I did find myself wanting a lot of the features my year and half handset had. Honestly The new features the note II brought to the table for me did not outweigh the simpler things that I routinely use. So I am returning mine this evening and have already re activated my evo 3D and will sit it out till the next HTC device comes down the pipe and see what they bring out.
I will say the 3D does feel small in my hand now but its like an old pair of jeans just feels right, and usually I am very rapid to adopt the next phone I really wanted to like this phone and use it for the next year but I asked myself if I keep having questions if I should return it or not then something is wrong.
Oh a few other things that annoy me about it was the lack of multitasking which I was really looking forward to. However it cannot do that yet=lame...
Im sure much of what I complained about will be addressed through software fixs and what have you at least I like to think so. And I know you can download a bunch of apps to do some of this stuff.
So my best advice go buy one and try it out for a couple of weeks like I did. Its only 35 bucks to turn it back in and go back to your Evo 3D. I will say though the EVO 3D with a custom rom on it is not a bad device and is not really that slow. I think if you are coming from an Evo 4g the drastic difference is bigger or if you are coming from an even older device then it will be mind blowing. But from the evo 3d the Samsung is a nice phone a bit faster for sure but 300 dollars faster and worth 11 dollar a month insurance and 200 dollar deductible for me not so much.
Again not a hater I think the note II is a great device for very specific ppl and a very capable handset. But thought it would be nice to hear somebody else's view that is not all roses

leedawg said:
SO im pretty sure im going to get totally flammed for saying this but here goes and I think you need to hear it.
I too upgraded from an evo 3D. I wont lie the note II is an amazing device and is very fast.
Things I like most about it
-Screen size is very impressive for video especially
-Battery life is incredible you can beat on it all day and still have juice in the evening
-Camera is pretty impressive speed very fast fastest ive ever seen on a phone.
-speaker is pretty good audio nice and loud nice if you dont have headphones with you
Unfortunately for me this is where it stops, and I will repeat these are my own opinions.
Things I do not like
-The hardware home button you have to push it in to make it go home kinda pain in the ass since the back and menu are capacitive buttons sure would be nice if they kept them all the same or even better just made it a capacitive button like most of the other manufactures do Its not an iphone I dont want an iphone...
-Screen very poor performance outside, full brightness and I am still thinking to myself this screen is hard to read out in the sun light or even in the car on a nice sunny day, I suppose if I lived in oregon or Washington state along the coast I would not care but here in sunny california its a problem. The Evo 3D is much easier to read outside in direct sunlight
- You cannot operate the camera while on a phone call. Why ? I have no idea but cant do it. Evo can no problem
- You cannot send a txt msg while on the phone either again why? no idea but my evo 3d sure can and its nice sometimes especially on speaker phone.
-I personally think sense is a pretty nice UI better than touchwiz but thats just me so im glad to be back.
-Memory mapping is a problem on this device your SD card will show up as external SD card not SD card so causes problems with a lot of programs unless you root and use directory bind. I did this seemed to work alright but more of a work around to a problem that should have been addressed at time of manufacture in my opinion.
- Stock browser and I like the stock android browsers they are pretty good but for some reason wont txt wrap when you double click to zoom in so you can read paragraphs of text so I am scrolling back and forth to read and I have the largest screen ive ever had on a phone and still find myself scrolling like crazy, hum.
- Swype does not auto space in the browser when posting things such as this very post annoying.
So those were my biggest complaints with the phone aside from this its a pretty nice device. However I did find myself wanting a lot of the features my year and half handset had. Honestly The new features the note II brought to the table for me did not outweigh the simpler things that I routinely use. So I am returning mine this evening and have already re activated my evo 3D and will sit it out till the next HTC device comes down the pipe and see what they bring out.
I will say the 3D does feel small in my hand now but its like an old pair of jeans just feels right, and usually I am very rapid to adopt the next phone I really wanted to like this phone and use it for the next year but I asked myself if I keep having questions if I should return it or not then something is wrong.
Oh a few other things that annoy me about it was the lack of multitasking which I was really looking forward to. However it cannot do that yet=lame...
Im sure much of what I complained about will be addressed through software fixs and what have you at least I like to think so. And I know you can download a bunch of apps to do some of this stuff.
So my best advice go buy one and try it out for a couple of weeks like I did. Its only 35 bucks to turn it back in and go back to your Evo 3D. I will say though the EVO 3D with a custom rom on it is not a bad device and is not really that slow. I think if you are coming from an Evo 4g the drastic difference is bigger or if you are coming from an even older device then it will be mind blowing. But from the evo 3d the Samsung is a nice phone a bit faster for sure but 300 dollars faster and worth 11 dollar a month insurance and 200 dollar deductible for me not so much.
Again not a hater I think the note II is a great device for very specific ppl and a very capable handset. But thought it would be nice to hear somebody else's view that is not all roses
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All of that you listed has been addressed before you even got the phone and was tested/working a few days after the phone came out...

eovnu87435ds said:
Yeah, i was in the little strip store by my work, instead of the full sized nice one that I usually go to. Good to hear about the screen, and I'm surprised anybody would be going from a sgs3 to the original note, glad it works out though!
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No...I had the note and sold it, and bought an S3...hardware wise there just isn't any comparison... and I can run serenity rom which turns my phone in a note 2!
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Anyone who says the screen isnt brighter has been smoking too much hash. I could hardly see either of my evo's on a sunny day, this thing is leaps and bounds brighter and clearer outside then an evo. I dont even have to take off my polarized Ray Bans to see the screen. I have perfect vision so it may be different for contact or eyeglass wearer.
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No...I had the note and sold it, and bought an S3...hardware wise there just isn't any comparison... and I can ...serenity rom which turns my phone in a note 2!
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I have to get that rom that makes my phone bigger and gives it double the cores. DL link please.

Getting Anxious
I am currently rocking the EVO 4G and I lovied this phone when I got it but started to notice that it seemed like the last great phone that HTC made. I dont get my upgrade until Dec. 1st and I cant wait unitl I can finally get rid of this thing I call a smart phone and get a truely amazing device that is the Note II. I was a little upset when the original Note was on AT&T only but now that the successor is out for Sprint, I am as giddy as a school girl. Reading most of these comments makes me that much more anxious to get my hands on one so that I can finally see the awesomeness and true power of Samsung. Thanks for all the great input from all of your posts.

I'd make your decision based on your preferred screen size. There are a lot of great devices out at the moment.
I can recommend this device if you like the size.

chucktownscitch said:
I just picked up my note 2 from evo3d last night. Once I got home I felt a HUGE disappoint from leaving my 3d woth cm10 coming to touchwiz and how BIG everything is. Day two, im a little more at ease after some sleep.
My biggest issue is just how huge everything is. I know once I root it and change dpi down it may look more normal for me. Im used to using a small font with and small font settings.
However my biggest hurdle is how unstable this thing feels in one hand. I constsntly feel like I may drop it because the only way to truley be able to use one hand and access everything is to rest the phone on your four fingers while using your thumb to navigate. Versus having end of your other fingers having a sturdy hold on left side of phone like normal.
Using the one-handed option does help for typing and such, but its mainly not being able to reach notification bar while having the firm grip versus resting on four fingers.
Having a inner struggle weather I want to keep this or go exchange for the gs3 later today or tomorrow. I use my phone with one hand a lot so thats a huge issue for me.
Has anyone else gone thru this while switching too the note2? If so how long does it take for that too go away.
Also im curious as to what kind of stylus support aosp roms will have. I know it will work for touching the screen but I mean as far as default samsung note apps and such? I know I will be going back to cm10 on this or the gs3. But if we will lose a lot of stylus support then I dont reslly see a need for the note over the gs3 with only .7 inches of extra screen real estate.
Any input would be great! Thanks
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Since you use it one handed a lot, you should look into a flygrip. There is a video review on YouTube.

Hey, I would just like to thank everybody who has given their input in my thread here. I'd like to inform everybody that I am now a proud owner of a titanium Sprint Note II!. The capability of the phone impresses me, and my only fault is that it is taking me a bit of time to find the best way to hold it.
Thanks everybody!

Too big blah blah blah.

Not that I care what others think, but is anyone else sick of hearing the same "I could never carry around something that big" reaction from people. Everytime someone I know sees my phone for the first time I feel like I immediately have to defend it by showing them how it still fits perfectly in my pockets and how other phones are too small for me. Its mostly iphone users. I bet if they spent a couple days using my phone they would probably never go back to their small "squint to read on" screen.

Yeah, but after I show them the bells and whistles, and show them how great browsing the Web is our watching a video, they usually go...Wow...that is nice! I don't have to squint to see the screen. And that is why I got it!

Its just the green eyed monster talking. Ignore it.
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Haha, my newest and favorite quote now is "Thats what she said"... I show them the multitask, the video split screens. Thats what really shows them hiw amazing this is
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that's what she said lolz
Seriously, people who say that are just jealous. A genuine reaction is like... look how big it is, makes mine look small, etc.

Everyone I work with has an iphony. Once they realized how Superior my phone is over theirs they left me alone, lol.. However there is still one fool who now likes to say that I carry a "flat screen". His comment is so pathetic it speaks for itself. I constantly show YouTube and HD clips to everyone I work with now.. They secretly Love my Phone. I also let them know that I have Truly unlimited everything from T-Mobile for $77 a month. Lmao!

I show them the quadrant scores and giggle at their reaction. ^^.
I say that at least I've got a phone and a tablet. It is the best of both worlds in one device.
I love it.
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My standard answer is: look isn't that cool, my screen is bigger than your whole phone, so much more viewing area.

I get this a lot too but the size just feels normal to me now, I can't really use anything smaller(that's what she said). My ex had an iPhone 4 & it felt like a toy, I couldn't even type on it. I honestly wonder how people use anything smaller than 4.3 inches anymore. Boy, this is just one big long **** joke, huh >.<

I couldnt agree with this more

I rarely get that now. When I told people I was getting it they said that. But after I shoeed them an HD video, they all wanted one. Until I told them how much it costs.
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Adrian- said:
My standard answer is: look isn't that cool, my screen is bigger than your whole phone, so much more viewing area.
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I like to turn my phone sideways and tell them my screen is wider than theirs is long.
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My co workers always bust my balls about it. Saying i have a flat screen tv in my pocket -.-
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Most people that see my gn2, want one for themselves. I never heard the "it's too big of a phone" thing.
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i agree with all the pluses everyone has pointed out. after i explain to people that its better than lugging around a tablet, you dont have to squint, after showing them the multitasking split screen and bells and whistles they leave impressed. the main question or comment i get is "its so big it looks silly holding it up to your ear" to which i point out that i never ever even with a smaller screened phone held it up to my ear and that i always use a good bluetooth headset, so that point is moot for me.
I have coarse beard hair and sometimes oily skin which ruined my earlier phones screens so its been bluetooth all the way. :laugh:

This phone draws a lot of attention its way and it's always been good attention. Everyone wants to see it or hold it and every single time that person wants to know where to get one and how much.
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Elderly people have been asking about my phone because it has a big screen...
Maybe I'll take it as a complement

kingcarlo12 said:
Not that I care what others think, but is anyone else sick of hearing the same "I could never carry around something that big" reaction from people. Everytime someone I know sees my phone for the first time I feel like I immediately have to defend it by showing them how it still fits perfectly in my pockets and how other phones are too small for me. Its mostly iphone users. I bet if they spent a couple days using my phone they would probably never go back to their small "squint to read on" screen.
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My uncle is exactly like that. He said the phone is too big for him and that he can't fit it in is girly pants. He went ahead and bought an iphone 5. Started showing it off to me saying look how small and perfect it is. He then said that the screen resolution is so clear that when he watches youtube the video looks bigger..... buwahahaha! I know, I know. Then I accidently dropped my Note 2 on top of his iphone 5 and crushed it to bits. :highfive:

I think of it as the worlds smallest tablet, not the worlds largest phone.

primus123 said:
Haha, my newest and favorite quote now is "Thats what she said"...
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This is my new favorite quote too after people see it for the first time and say "wow that's big" lol.

My coworkers' reaction is the same. But one of them is looking to get one on sprint after showing her the note 2's features and battery life. She has HTC Evo 4g.
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