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I'm sending my Incredible back to Verizon for a new Inc. but I'm rooted with the new update. Want should I do so they don't know I rooted this phone. OK just check my phone I guest when I did the official update it unrooted me. I' still S-OOF. But I got to go back to original stock before I sent the phone back my phone should get to me in 2 days. So I need to put back 2.1 and S-ON.
Have you done unrevoked forever and turned off the S-off, if so you should probably not send it in.
The best thing you can do is look for the stock 2.0 firmware. Also look on YouTube for a unroot video. I have unrooted and re-rooted this phone so it can be done.
Sent from my Rooted Droid Incredible
I'm S-OOF right know. So I should go back to S-ON and try to find 2.0 rom. Where can I find the right programs to this before 2 days.
I'll help you out.
It does NOT matter if you send the phone back with 2.1 or 2.2, they don't care.
They care about two things you need to worry about.
turning it back to S-ON
and having the stock recovery.
to achieve this. You MUST be rooted to do S-OFF or S-ON, so first off get rooted if your not. Then visit unrevoked
the unrevoked3 is for root, unrevoked forever is S-ON, S-OFF.
once you are rooted, follow the instructions to turn it back to S-ON. **(the same exact way you turned it to S-OFF, but using the new S-ON file.)**
Once this is completed now you will have S-ON, but you are still rooted, and have the ClockworkMod recovery. You need to un-root by downgrading using the 2.1 OR 2.2 RUU. your pick and like mentioned above. don't matteh. This will get you to have the stock recovery, and S-ON. Go in that order. Hope you get it. Peace.
If your S-OFF then you are screwed. There is no way to turn it back on. You are SOL man. You can always restore it to factory but the S-OFF will ALWAYS remain
Sent from my Rooted Droid Incredible
Also your phone has all the programs you need. You just news to put them all in the root of your SD card and reboot into hboot
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jrdnthms said:
If your S-OFF then you are screwed. There is no way to turn it back on. You are SOL man. You can always restore it to factory but the S-OFF will ALWAYS remain
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Uhm you can turn back to S-ON
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Unless there has been a break though in getting HTC's and Verizon's super secret security code then I doubt it. The reason its called unrevoked forever is because there is no way to turn it back on. Check other posts in the xda to prove my point. If you return a S-off phone you will void the return and have to pay full price for the new one.
Sent from my unrEvoked forever Droid Incredible
jrdnthms said:
Unless there has been a break though in getting HTC's and Verizon's super secret security code then I doubt it. The reason its called unrevoked forever is because there is no way to turn it back on. Check other posts in the xda to prove my point. If you return a S-off phone you will void the return and have to pay full price for the new one.
Sent from my unrEvoked forever Droid Incredible
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FYI unrevoked forever 1.1 was released last week allowing us to return to s-on.
Also, the reason its called forever is because it forever allows our phones to truly be ours, unlocked and how it should be.
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Assuming that to be true why would unrEVoked be offering a package called unrevoked-forever-son?
They SPECIFICALLY provide it in case you need to go BACK TO S-ON....
Frequently Asked Questions
Q: How can this be removed or undone if I need to take my phone in for service?
A: Download the latest ''S-ON'' tool to a temporary location and follow the installation instructions above to run it. Once your phone is S-ON, you may lose root permanently if you install an official update
h t t p : / / unrevoked . com / rootwiki / doku.php / public / forever
I still cannot post H T T P links.
jrdnthms said:
Unless there has been a break though in getting HTC's and Verizon's super secret security code then I doubt it. The reason its called unrevoked forever is because there is no way to turn it back on. Check other posts in the xda to prove my point. If you return a S-off phone you will void the return and have to pay full price for the new one.
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Hahaha. Should have stopped while you were ahead, or at least have read my post that RIGHT about you before you started talking about something you have no idea about.
www.unrevoked.com read it.
jrdnthms said:
Unless there has been a break though in getting HTC's and Verizon's super secret security code then I doubt it. The reason its called unrevoked forever is because there is no way to turn it back on. Check other posts in the xda to prove my point. If you return a S-off phone you will void the return and have to pay full price for the new one.
Sent from my unrEvoked forever Droid Incredible
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Seems like someone has been out of the loop.
Hey guys just got back from work a little while ago, and try all things you guys said but nothing works. Right know I'm sitting on a phone that sits with the new updated rooted because it took out of rooted, unrevoked won't let me root my phone. I get a error that says failed to load image. Please help.
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Seems like someone has been out of the loop.
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I need help please. read last post.
@draft ok my mistake, last time i read the forever page it said they wouldn't make a S-ON but they did. My bad.
@Milton please go to this link and try it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695825
follow the steps and it should unroot/restore. Hopefully you do this correctly
Milton1964 said:
I need help please. read last post.
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Download S-ON file from unrEVOked's website and run that so that you get S-ON back onto the phone.
Then download either the 2.1 or 2.2 RUU (find them in the Android Development Section) and run that and it will wipe the phone and bring it back to factory state.
If it says your phone is not found when using the RUU, try downloading the HTC Sync software for the Incredible and installing that first. You need the drivers for "MY HTC" on the computer for the RUU to recognize it and HTC Sync will install that for you. I had that issue, but remedied it with the HTC Sync software install first.
jrdnthms said:
@draft ok my mistake, last time i read the forever page it said they wouldn't make a S-ON but they did. My bad.
@Milton please go to this link and try it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695825
follow the steps and it should unroot/restore. Hopefully you do this correctly
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Jr I'll give it a try. i will get with you later to let you know hoe it goes. thanks.
Back to 2.1 and S-ON thanks everyone
Milton1964 said:
Jr I'll give it a try. i will get with you later to let you know hoe it goes. thanks.
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Jr it work like a charm. Back to 2.1 and S-ON!!!!!!!!!!! Ye ha know I could return this broken phone and get my new Incredible maybe it probably be refurbish.
Milton1964 said:
Jr it work like a charm. Back to 2.1 and S-ON!!!!!!!!!!! Ye ha know I could return this broken phone and get my new Incredible maybe it probably be refurbish.
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Way to go back, good for you. It will 100% be refurbished unless of coarse you are within 30 days. refurbs are good though. and its amoled so. whateva
Well we see. the only thing i'm worry about is that it will come with 2.2, and won't be able to root again.
Here's my question. My friend's brother attempted to root his stock Evo using simpleroot instructions I sent my friend 4-5 months ago (pre-2.2) without knowing that simpleroot isn't supported. His phone is now borked. When he tries to load into bootloader, he gets an error (not sure which one), but his phone will boot into android.
What I'm wondering is this: As of yesterday, his phone was updated and current as per sprint and the update commands in the system menus... Can he flash back to an older stock rom via RUU (such as this one) without causing other problems? If my understanding is correct, the latest sprint updates aren't yet rootable, right?
Any help on this issue?
Thanks
Is the phone s-off?
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badutahboy said:
Here's my question. My friend's brother attempted to root his stock Evo using simpleroot instructions I sent my friend 4-5 months ago (pre-2.2) without knowing that simpleroot isn't supported. His phone is now borked. When he tries to load into bootloader, he gets an error (not sure which one), but his phone will boot into android.
What I'm wondering is this: As of yesterday, his phone was updated and current as per sprint and the update commands in the system menus... Can he flash back to an older stock rom via RUU (such as this one) without causing other problems? If my understanding is correct, the latest sprint updates aren't yet rootable, right?
Any help on this issue?
Thanks
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No, you can not run an older ruu. If he updated to today or yesterdays update hes stuck. If he is on HBOOT 2.02 he can flash the 3.30.651.3 ruu or ths 3.70.651.1 but you can not ruu further back.
animal7296 said:
No, you can not run an older ruu. If he updated to today or yesterdays update hes stuck. If he is on HBOOT 2.02 he can flash the 3.30.651.3 ruu or ths 3.70.651.1 but you can not ruu further back.
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Are either of these rootable yet?
and can someone explain what S-on and off means?
badutahboy said:
Are either of these rootable yet?
and can someone explain what S-on and off means?
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Yes, they're both rootable.
S-ON vs S-OFF; is just basically a security parameter that's being locked/unlocked. This allows for PC36IMG's files to be flashed via the bootloader without having to use or have authenticated signature keys from Google.
Basically, if you ever accept an OTA and it flashes and removes your recovery (CWM or Amon_RA); then you have no way of flashing custom roms/mods, etc... however with S-OFF, you have the ability to get your recovery back and set yourself back to root if need be.
Essentially, S-OFF allows for another method of flashing stuff to the phone besides just using the CWM or Amon_RA recoveries.
Hboot versions however can affect S-OFF; so it's important that if there is a new OTA that you always hold off, until a developer can validate that the hboot can be exploited and that the OTA can be rooted.
badutahboy said:
Are either of these rootable yet?
and can someone explain what S-on and off means?
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1. 2.02 is rootable 2.10 is not and is the newest one.
2.0 S-ON means you can not flash roms s-off means you can. It is the security of the phone kind of.
If you can not get into bootloader then you can try running the oldest ruu and then the next. It wont hurt the phone at all (I just did it today) it will just give you an error and reboot the phone.
pseudoremora said:
Yes, they're both rootable.
S-ON vs S-OFF; is just basically a security parameter that's being locked/unlocked. This allows for PC36IMG's files to be flashed via the bootloader without having to use or have authenticated signature keys from Google.
Basically, if you ever accept an OTA and it flashes and removes your recovery (CWM or Amon_RA); then you have no way of flashing custom roms/mods, etc... however with S-OFF, you have the ability to get your recovery back and set yourself back to root if need be.
Essentially, S-OFF allows for another method of flashing stuff to the phone besides just using the CWM or Amon_RA recoveries.
Hboot versions however can affect S-OFF; so it's important that if there is a new OTA that you always hold off, until a developer can validate that the hboot can be exploited and that the OTA can be rooted.
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Thanks for the explanations and the help.
How do I find out if it's S-on or off, and is it possible to change?
pseudoremora said:
Yes, they're both rootable.
S-ON vs S-OFF; is just basically a security parameter that's being locked/unlocked. This allows for PC36IMG's files to be flashed via the bootloader without having to use or have authenticated signature keys from Google.
Basically, if you ever accept an OTA and it flashes and removes your recovery (CWM or Amon_RA); then you have no way of flashing custom roms/mods, etc... however with S-OFF, you have the ability to get your recovery back and set yourself back to root if need be.
Essentially, S-OFF allows for another method of flashing stuff to the phone besides just using the CWM or Amon_RA recoveries.
Hboot versions however can affect S-OFF; so it's important that if there is a new OTA that you always hold off, until a developer can validate that the hboot can be exploited and that the OTA can be rooted.
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I have been trying to root 2.10 since yesterday and it has proven to not be possible as of yet. If you have a rooting method that works for me then would you share please?
animal7296 said:
I have been trying to root 2.10 since yesterday and it has proven to not be possible as of yet. If you have a rooting method that works for me then would you share please?
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Im with u brotha im stuck on 2.10 from a mistake i made. Was originally on 0.76.2
Sux man
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badutahboy said:
Thanks for the explanations and the help.
How do I find out if it's S-on or off, and is it possible to change?
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To see if you're S-OFF or S-ON; you can boot your phone into bootloader mode.
To do this:
1. Power down the phone
2. Hold the Volume Down + Power button
3. You'll see a white screen with three little Androids
4. Read the very top of the screen; should tell you if you are S-ON or S-OFF.
You can reboot afterwards.
And yes, you can switch from the S-ON to S-OFF and vise versa, though I don't see why you would want to do the latter.
animal7296 said:
I have been trying to root 2.10 since yesterday and it has proven to not be possible as of yet. If you have a rooting method that works for me then would you share please?
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luckylui said:
Im with u brotha im stuck on 2.10 from a mistake i made. Was originally on 0.76.2
Sux man
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I apologize to the both of you guys; I was under the impression that 2.10 was S-OFF, apparently testing is still being done. For now, looks like you'll have to sit tight. Sorry guys.
pseudoremora said:
To see if you're S-OFF or S-ON; you can boot your phone into bootloader mode.
To do this:
1. Power down the phone
2. Hold the Volume Down + Power button
3. You'll see a white screen with three little Androids
4. Read the very top of the screen; should tell you if you are S-ON or S-OFF.
You can reboot afterwards.
And yes, you can switch from the S-ON to S-OFF and vise versa, though I don't see why you would want to do the latter.
I apologize to the both of you guys; I was under the impression that 2.10 was S-OFF, apparently testing is still being done. For now, looks like you'll have to sit tight. Sorry guys.
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However it has been verified that if you were S-OFF on 2.02 you can install the OTA and you will end up with HBOOT 2.10 with S-OFF.
pseudoremora said:
To see if you're S-OFF or S-ON; you can boot your phone into bootloader mode.
To do this:
1. Power down the phone
2. Hold the Volume Down + Power button
3. You'll see a white screen with three little Androids
4. Read the very top of the screen; should tell you if you are S-ON or S-OFF.
You can reboot afterwards.
And yes, you can switch from the S-ON to S-OFF and vise versa, though I don't see why you would want to do the latter.
I apologize to the both of you guys; I was under the impression that 2.10 was S-OFF, apparently testing is still being done. For now, looks like you'll have to sit tight. Sorry guys.
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No prob pimp
Ima call sprint n see if i can some how get me a phone w the 2.02 hboot and just pretty much get an upgrade from 0003 hardware to 0004 Lol
Im like jumpy rite now ahaha
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tpbklake said:
However it has been verified that if you were S-OFF on 2.02 you can install the OTA and you will end up with HBOOT 2.10 with S-OFF.
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True this, but when i did it i was at 0.76.2 and now screw at 2.10 cause it updated all the way n i didnt want to do that.. Got lost in the tangle haha
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tpbklake said:
However it has been verified that if you were S-OFF on 2.02 you can install the OTA and you will end up with HBOOT 2.10 with S-OFF.
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Yea, I heard about this in the IRC; too bad these guys can do that... unfortunate; but I'm sure the Unrevoked team will have a fix soon enough.
luckylui said:
No prob pimp
Ima call sprint n see if i can some how get me a phone w the 2.02 hboot and just pretty much get an upgrade from 0003 hardware to 0004 Lol
Im like jumpy rite now ahaha
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Good luck with Sprint; I don't know how helpful they're going to be, but you never know...
@luckylui and animal7296, check out the 2.02/2.10 rooting thread again, it seems they got something working. Good luck.
badutahboy said:
Here's my question. My friend's brother attempted to root his stock Evo using simpleroot instructions I sent my friend 4-5 months ago (pre-2.2) without knowing that simpleroot isn't supported. His phone is now borked. When he tries to load into bootloader, he gets an error (not sure which one), but his phone will boot into android.
What I'm wondering is this: As of yesterday, his phone was updated and current as per sprint and the update commands in the system menus... Can he flash back to an older stock rom via RUU (such as this one) without causing other problems? If my understanding is correct, the latest sprint updates aren't yet rootable, right?
Any help on this issue?
Thanks
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There actually is a way to downgrade without rooting, all you need to do is flash the mtd-eng.img file to your misc partition as explained in toast's rooting part 2 thread. After you do that it will let you flash any ruu that is compatible with your phone
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So...I wanted to unroot my phone today before the Sprint store closed so I could sell it back to them for the $150.
I was in such a hurry that I just downloaded the latest RUU (4.24) and I flashed it from the bootloader... I completely forgot about S-OFF still being there.
So now I have the latest stock software, but I am still S-OFF instead of S-ON.
Can this be fixed? Or am I screwed?
Does Sprint even care? I guess it depends on the employee.
There is an S-ON tool somewhere on unrevoked's website, but I don't know if that is radio specific, since I've never used it and never will.
Since it is S-OFF, could I flash a custom recovery, then flash a older radio, then flash unrevoked-S-ON.zip, then see what happens?
just sell it...
Why not just sell it on Craigslist? You can probably sell it in a hour or so for $150... or in a day or two for $200!
tnEVo said:
Why not just sell it on Craigslist? You can probably sell it in a hour or so for $150... or in a day or two for $200!
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Yea because I want to actually meet some schmuck who might kill me for the phone... lulz
For realz tho, I flashed Amon RA again from the bootloader, then I flashed an older radio (http://www.mediafire.com/file/2pjq2dhjv6ntxnh/EVO_Radio_2.15.00.11.19.zip) and then I flashed the Unrevoked S-ON file, and boom it was S-ON.
Now I'm applying the RUU again and my phone will be stock as ****... with it being unrootable
But yea, totally selling it tomorrow. Now I await S-OFF on the EVO 3D.
It was fun while it lasted EVO 4G. We had good times together
issafram said:
I was in such a hurry that I just downloaded the latest RUU (4.24) and I flashed it from the bootloader...
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Can't flash an RUU from the bootloader...
Did you run the RUU while in bootloader, or flash the radio from the RUU?
aph said:
Can't flash an RUU from the bootloader...
Did you run the RUU while in bootloader, or flash the radio from the RUU?
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Actually you can flash an RUU from the bootloader. They make zip versions of the EXE releases. Which I find alot nicer and easier to use than having to hook it up to my machine.
Ahh, you should trade me first! I have s-on!
To get charging port and home button fixed. I have insurance and my phone is rooted. They have to repair it right? I remember reading on here that rooted phones can be worked on by sprint employees now. True, correct?
Wrong. My friend is a tech at the local Sprint Store and I asked her about that. Her answer was hysterical laughing.
You may want to try and flash a Stock Rom first.
I thought they had to repair them now?
Sorry, you thought wrong.
So should I just unroot and take it in? I don't mind. I think when I took it in last time the rep said he couldnt fix it cuz it was rooted and it was the charging port that tiem too.
You can. I just keep my stock/rooted setup in a Nandroid, in case that ever happens ,so I can roll back to Stock without unrooting. I don't think they'd check for S-off, but you never know
Ill just unroot. I can use djrez's method to unroot if my bootloader doesnt say revolutionary at the top right? I am pretty sure i used unrevoked forever to unroot.
DRatJr said:
Ill just unroot. I can use djrez's method to unroot if my bootloader doesnt say revolutionary at the top right? I am pretty sure i used unrevoked forever to unroot.
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If you used unrevoked then you can just flash s-on & RUU. You may have to downgrade your radio to get the s-on zip to work.
If you're taking it in for a bad usb port, they'll most likely replace it instead of trying to fix it.
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I plan to flash the S-ON then let hboot upgrade to the PC36IMG that is in DJREZ's unroot thread. Woudl that be sufficient enough?
DRatJr said:
I plan to flash the S-ON then let hboot upgrade to the PC36IMG that is in DJREZ's unroot thread. Woudl that be sufficient enough?
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how do i get S-ON on my evo when i used unrevoked3 not unrevoked forever...is there like a zip file for that
weztcoazt said:
how do i get S-ON on my evo when i used unrevoked3 not unrevoked forever...is there like a zip file for that
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Unroot method is the same. Unrevoked 3 had Forever built in.
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DONT ever flash s-on haha i've taken my evo to get fixed a couple of times and they're never checked for s-off. I guess you could though if you were getting a replacement.
Well I'm trading the phone in for a different....my evo looks stock but still with the s-off. My evo says a mandatory update is available n I'm wondering what that will do lol
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HipKat said:
Wrong. My friend is a tech at the local Sprint Store and I asked her about that. Her answer was hysterical laughing.
You may want to try and flash a Stock Rom first.
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This document was leaked a little while ago, have they since rescinded the policy?
It was 3 weeks ago when I talked to her
Khilbron said:
This document was leaked a little while ago, have they since rescinded the policy?
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Nope. But not all service locations/employees have fallen in line behind the policy either.
KJ
HipKat said:
Sorry, you thought wrong.
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Actually, you're wrong.
If the issue has nothing to do with being rooted, why would it matter? If a phone comes into my service center with software issues that's rooted, then yes it pertains to the issue. Digitizer out? Root has nothing to do with it. I leave it the way it is and repair.
weztcoazt said:
how do i get S-ON on my evo when i used unrevoked3 not unrevoked forever...is there like a zip file for that
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Yea. If u are s-off and used unrevoked to root, then you need 2 downgrade ur radio to 2.05.xx.xx and then flash the s-on zip. After that if ur back to s-on just flash the 3.70 pc36img
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Anybody having any luck re-rooting after the Sense 6 OTA today?
brent372 said:
Anybody having any luck re-rooting after the Sense 6 OTA today?
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im guessing they patched the exploit and will have to wait for a new one if you went back to locked, or s-on status.
synisterwolf said:
im guessing they patched the exploit and will have to wait for a new one if you went back to locked, or s-on status.
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Never S-OFF'd or unlocked it.
Never perm-rooted it. Didn't even have custom recovery.
It was 100%, just rooted. It is a work-only phone so I am not overly concerned with it. But it would still be nice to be able to.
brent372 said:
Never S-OFF'd or unlocked it.
Never perm-rooted it. Didn't even have custom recovery.
It was 100%, just rooted. It is a work-only phone so I am not overly concerned with it. But it would still be nice to be able to.
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Ah, im sure someone will find a way. they always do.
synisterwolf said:
Ah, im sure someone will find a way. they always do.
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Tell that to the folks in the VZW s5 forums. lol
eman7131 said:
Tell that to the folks in the VZW s5 forums. lol
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ZING
i guess i should say that HTC phones seem to be easier to root, well from the outside looking in that is. i have no clue how hard it really is to find an exploit.
newest RUU today
FLASH: Just now, I can confirm that after taking the 5-28-2014 update (4.10.605.3) Weaksauce 1.01 can't any longer attain root.
michaelbsheldon said:
FLASH: Just now, I can confirm that after taking the 5-28-2014 update (4.10.605.3) Weaksauce 1.01 can't any longer attain root.
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And this is why I always tell people that if they want to stay rooted or unlock in the future that they shouldn't take any OTAs.
Wasnt a deal breaker for me on this phone
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not a tragedy
GrayTheWolf said:
And this is why I always tell people that if they want to stay rooted or unlock in the future that they shouldn't take any OTAs.
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Nah, just a learning exercise!!
Was locked and S-0ff and took the 0TA to check it out. Including Weaksauce.
Easily flashed an unencrypted older RUU, then unlocked the bootloader with Scotty's recipe posted earlier.
Made firmware newest with SantoD's no-boot firmware and we're back at the races!
michaelbsheldon said:
Nah, just a learning exercise!!
Was locked and S-0ff and took the 0TA to check it out. Including Weaksauce.
Easily flashed an unencrypted older RUU, then unlocked the bootloader with Scotty's recipe posted earlier.
Made firmware newest with SantoD's no-boot firmware and we're back at the races!
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If s-off there's no need to lock to get an OTA.
Also, keep this so you don't need to flash back to an older RUU.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2765784