[Q] Understanding My Batter and Its Life. - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So im trying to figure out all the detail of my battery and how it works with my phone, i hear all these people getting great battery life and when i follow there setups i still cant match the life there getting even if i leave my phone asleep for hours.
Heres what i got, i downloaded battery monitor widget so i can kinda see whats going on and this is where i get lost.
My usage(mA) is usually bellow 0, which i believe is from undervolting? but it ranges from -466 to 707. The positive mA's come in spikes every few hours. I guess what im asking is this normal? I dont think so, i believe i have a rouge app thats keeping something going.
Can anyone shed some light on what i should be seeing?

I use BMW myself and I just use it for calibration and to see how long my battery has left. Try using juice defender. It turns off your mobile data while your screen is off and saves you quite a bit of battery. At the moment I'm getting close to 22 hours of life. Any other questions just pm me. I've tried a lot of stuff to help battery life.
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Display percentage help?

Semi-noob here lol ok I've seen screenshots of peoples battery stats (what's using your battery) in the settings and their display percentage was always low. Now on my EVO, everything is pretty low probably like 10% and under. But my display % is always above 70. I've looked for fixes and other stuff but I either didn't do it right or just didn't wanna mess up my phone. So what Im askin is if someone can give me some info on this is greatly appreciate it. I'm running mikg v2.1, any other stuff you guys might need to know to help just let me know. My phone only lasts close to 3 hours after a full charge and its killing me lol thanks in advance
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People only post pics when there battery seems like it super awesome. Their display percentage is 10% or less because they barely used it during that "cycle" if you will (as in they let their phone sit there for 20+ hours and not use it at all ). Yours is so high and battery lasting not very long because your probably actually using your phone. Haha
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But yeah 3 hours on a full charge sucks. First try charging to 100% and downloading the batterycalibration app. It will clear your battery stats from previous roms and should make it a bit better. Also try turning off radios when internet isn't needed (turn off 3g 4g wifi GPS etc.) When you aren't using them. This will help miraculously. Also don't keep your brightness at 100% all day haha. But I've heard this happening on that rom before. Try using the synergy rom its amazing all around. Good luck
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sense 2.1/3.0 roms always have crazy high display usage. no real fix either. battery life gets better in a few days, and it will get MUCH better once htc releases the source so people can make custom kernels.
Thanks for all the replies guys. What's weird is a day or 2 after I flashed miks I was getting crazy battery life almost a full day on the stock battery which amazed the hell outta me, then all of a sudden like 2 nights ago I could literally watch my battery percentage dropping. I really do love miks but i think ima switch over to synergy again. I seen that rc1 was released, I haven't been on synergy since the early nightlies. I'll give it a go and see what happens. Could not having updated radios and such be a problem?
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s0calstate0fmind said:
Thanks for all the replies guys. What's weird is a day or 2 after I flashed miks I was getting crazy battery life almost a full day on the stock battery which amazed the hell outta me, then all of a sudden like 2 nights ago I could literally watch my battery percentage dropping. I really do love miks but i think ima switch over to synergy again. I seen that rc1 was released, I haven't been on synergy since the early nightlies. I'll give it a go and see what happens. Could not having updated radios and such be a problem?
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probably........
id say the radios may have an effect but i wouldn't think it would be all that much. Not to the point of watching it go down. Virus's kingdom rom has given me battery times ranging from 20 hrs to 10 hrs. I really think that if you get 10 hrs out of this phone you have sucessfully used your cellphone that day the CORRECT way
I believe to really maximize your battery or at least a good way is to start a charge in an evening to 100 percent and what not and unplug it before you go to bed. It will sit and discharge over night and imo if battery stats are what i think they are it will learn the best screen off discharge rate you can get since it will have at the very least a few hours to learn its rate. I noticed after doing this most of the time i look at my phone after it being idle for a while (45 min to an hour) i wouldn't lose much if at all any percentage. Maybe im just crazy but its been great this last week since i did this

(UVDLI6 JB) Sudden Battery Drain

So I am running UVDL|6 for some time now which works good (not great but good) and this morning I woke up to find my battery completely dead. When I went to sleep it was at a decent 55% now I highly doubt that without any use the battery just drops to 0%, So checked my battery stats and it says Android System at 70% use.. which is pretty high for an idle phone. Any ideas? Or any software I can use to pull out the culprit because Android System has so many subsets to it that it makes it really hard to pin point what causes it.
You will have to reproduce the problem, but try GSam Battery Monitor.
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You will have to reproduce the problem, but try GSam Battery Monitor.
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Reproduce the problem? Well I was a sleep so maybe ghosts were messing with my phone, I'll ask them nicely...
I think he means you need to put your phone in the same spot when you go to bed and see if it does it again. No sense in trying to fix a one time problem.
Battery stats were gone when you started the phone up I'm assuming. Good reception where you placed it?
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Been happening to me on LI7 lately. Originally it was great on battery life, then all of a sudden I started getting insane battery drain from the Android System. I haven't really taken the time to diagnose it yet, but I need to. It gets really hot randomly sometimes then cools down and the battery just starts draining away really fast.
I saw someone mention deleting or renaming gsiff_daemon in /system/bin to solve this.
Theres a thread dedicated to the subject as well, though ive yet to actually go through it.
Anyway give that a shot and lets all hope they Completely fixed the battery issues in the final release! (Its not all from one thing in my experience with the leaks, but from multiple issues)
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Ill add my stock experience for reference as well as if anyone has a fix. I'm pretty happy with battery life coming from a Vibrant but what I notice is that usually there is minimal drain during the night ,however if I get an SMS the drain will be maximal.Like 30/40% Almost like the screen went on and never shut off but it doesn't seem to be the case. This is on the stock messenger App. If I don't get an SMS it will usually drain from like 99% to 96% roughly. Didn't mean to threadjack OP.
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demize! said:
Ill add my stock experience for reference as well as if anyone has a fix. I'm pretty happy with battery life coming from a Vibrant but what I notice is that usually there is minimal drain during the night ,however if I get an SMS the drain will be maximal.Like 30/40% Almost like the screen went on and never shut off but it doesn't seem to be the case. This is on the stock messenger App. If I don't get an SMS it will usually drain from like 99% to 96% roughly. Didn't mean to threadjack OP.
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Have you tried running Better Battery Stats to see why the phone isn't sleeping?
Yeah battery stats were probably from when I turned the phone back on...

DISGUSTING battery life

Alright first of all, i want start off by saying that i LOVE this phone, both in terms of hardware and software, however, theres is a HUGE problem that i just can't get through and its the battery of this phone...
It is simply unbearable.
I have posted the screenshots. This screenshot is taken after 1 whole night of charging. In 5 hours or so time, I've use the music app for about 1 hour, talked on the phone for about 5-10min and sent about 10 text messages. I didn't do any web browsing/videos/gaming. I have also disabled LTE and turned my brightness to minimum with eco mode on. These small things drained my battery from 100% to less than 10% within 5 hours which i find to be completely unacceptable.
Last night, with me browsing the web on the bus for about an hour or so, it drained my battery from 85% to 3% by the time i got home...
I've looked at the battery life thread and it seems like im the only one experiencing this issue. Also not only does it drain SUPER fast, it takes a good 4 to 5 hours to recharge this thing. Which means it takes longer to charge than to use up even with minimal use...
Do I have a faulty phone and should I get it replaced???
Something's amiss. The only time that I've gotten less than 10 hours, is when I had my work email connection set up to "always connected" and wifi was turned on. Even then, I got 9+ hours of battery life.
Disabling lte is part of the problem. When the phone is in 3g, it uses fast dormancy which LG did not implement very well and it runs the CPU constantly. I encourage you to contact LG and your carrier and complain. don't let them tell you about background data or applications running the battery down. With the same apps running, this does not happen on lte. This can easily be verified by enabling debugging and then capturing a logcat from adb with lte both enabled and disabled. It will show fast dormancy trying to set network states every second. I spent a lot of time trying to get this issue recognized, but they kept saying that it had not been reported and was not a known issue. Let's make it a known issue so they will fix it.
How about actually showing us what you used instead of screen shots of %.... would be helpful...
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Have you considered that maybe you have a faulty unit.
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I'm also getting about 5ish hours on a charge. And, when I recharge at the office with the usb cord, it's a "trickle charge" that's so slow it's ridiculous.
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I'm also getting about 5ish hours on a charge. And, when I recharge at the office with the usb cord, it's a "trickle charge" that's so slow it's ridiculous.
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you definitely want to return this thing.
Don't know about you...but I let my phone die twice then fully charged it but my battery life is amazing
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Yeah, I've been quite impressed with my battery life on this thing. I made it from 6:30am spent about 2 hours tweaking it and setting it up, then messed around with it through the day. By supper time I plugged it in and it was at 63%.
I don't have the phone, but right off the bat i'd say it was whatever was causing your mediaserver to go nuts. Either some media app, YouTube, gallery etc, wouldn't say its a faulty unit, just mediaserver gone rogue
And damn i want this phone...
Looks like a widget or live wallpaper is going crazy
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Well, a little update to this thread, i've disabled every different kind of syncing possible and i've been able to pretty much double my battery life from before, which is a lot better but i still wouldn't consider this to be good battery life.
I've been reading many posts regarding battery life, and it seems like there is some issue within the software that prevents the phone from going into deep sleep which is causing the lack luster battery life. This issue is on both the optimus g and the nexus 4, so i hope the devs may look into this issue when they are building custom roms for these two devices!
waaw Optimus G
I just got my optimus yesterday and had a full charge this morning. Been using it for almost 12 hours pretty steady. Have 16% battery left. I would say my battery is pretty amazing.
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Get a replacement that's what I did with my first one. I was getting 6-7 hours with light use.
Got a replacements and was able to get 19_14 hours battery.
Also today I left my cell at home and it was unplugged at 100% after 9 hours I came home and saw it at 95%.
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You definitely seem to have some weird issue's. My Optimus is great for battery life. My previous phone was an Xperia Arc and this has significantly better battery life without even running it in "eco mode". The only time I have noticed less then stellar battery life was when I had some app's running in the back ground that would keep refreshing/updating which kill's the battery.
Androids usage readings are inaccurate. Please consult this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
From what the picture shows I would guess its your 4G connection. A Hardware fault is improbable. And forget these things like "eco mode". Even if they underclock your cpu it won't give you a real benefit,
I've had great battery life on mine. Even when I've been geeking out on the device for several hours during the day.
Perhaps you are on the cusp of LTE coverage? If so, then the radio can kill your battery while looking for a signal.
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DraginMagik said:
I've had great battery life on mine. Even when I've been geeking out on the device for several hours during the day.
Perhaps you are on the cusp of LTE coverage? If so, then the radio can kill your battery while looking for a signal.
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I also have amazing battery life IMO, coming from a Galaxy S. I have no LTE in this area so am using only HSPA. Using the phone with casual use, I can easily go a full 24 hours on a charge. With very very heavy use I can go from 8 am till around 11 PM. I am very happy with the battery life overall. I'm running on "eco mode" FWIW.

FK23 rapid battery drain

First off I want to say I'm not a noob when it comes to flashing. I usually get 14-18 hours on a full charge with 3-4 hours screen time which seems to be the norm on e4gt roms. I haven't reinstalled any apps since flashing the FK23 stock leak and now a few days into the room settling I have almost 4 hours on a full charge and down to 9 percent left with almost 2 hours screen time. I have checked to see if my battery is swollen and it's not. The battery stops spinning immediately after I let go of it. Screen shots are attached and any insight would definitely be appreciated. I may have to go back to blu kuban since that's been giving me equivalent if not better batter life compared to FK23 stock
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Update lost 7 percent in 20 minutes on lowest brightness level
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Update lost 7 percent in 20 minutes on lowest brightness level
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Did you use One click odin to flash this?
Try removing unneeded stock apps
No this is from the tar file flashed in Odin 1.85 I believe... Had no issues for a few days now it's going crazy...I didn't even restore my internal and external sd backups yet as I wanted to test a clean install first
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I'm having rapid battery drain, too. I used the one-click no-data. I want to wipe everything and start over. Can I simply download and OC the data, or do I need to do something else, first?
As far as I know (devs correct me if I'm wrong) you can just use the OC restore that doesn't say no data... But I went the extra step and copied my entire internal and external to my pc for safe measures and so I could pick and choose what I wanted back on my phone. Then I cleared my internal and external sd before I even one clicked so it was already clean... I just wanted to make 100 percent sure everything was clean but that's just me
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Im not having any issues. Let your phone go dead tonight and charge it completely to 100% while off. Do not interrupt it until complete. Since I started doing this on flashed roms I have been getting better battery performance.
This is Dan's rooted deodexed zip...
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Im not having any issues. Let your phone go dead tonight and charge it completely to 100% while off. Do not interrupt it until complete. Since I started doing this on flashed roms I have been getting better battery performance.
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I just did this while taking a nap and this is what I have so far after 100 percent charge and I restarted once to pull battery and look at it
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I just did this while taking a nap and this is what I have so far after 100 percent charge and I restarted once to pull battery and look at it
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Was it completely dead when you put it on charge? I don't know why this works for me, but every Rom I have ever flashed, unless something is wrong with it, gives me better battery life 3-5 days after I flash it. Some of the old-timers say a Rom has to settle for a few days, so maybe it helps do that quicker. If all else fails, reflash the Rom.
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I just did this while taking a nap and this is what I have so far after 100 percent charge and I restarted once to pull battery and look at it
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I gotta say that your drain seems pretty extreme! I myself am having slightly accelerated battery drain but its better than what I had on ICS. My best recommendation would be to use an app like ROM Toolbox or Titanium Backup to freeze apps and background processes you don't need. If that doesn't help you may need to look at other options.
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I gotta say that your drain seems pretty extreme! I myself am having slightly accelerated battery drain but its better than what I had on ICS. My best recommendation would be to use an app like ROM Toolbox or Titanium Backup to freeze apps and background processes you don't need. If that doesn't help you may need to look at other options.
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^Thanked
I'm going to try installing GSAM and checking out what's going on in the background but as far as I can see nothing out of the ordinary is going on with the processes. On a side note when I took a look at my battery itself the sticker has pink X's on it. Not so sure if it's water damage per say but it may be condensation/humidity since I live in Florida. Looking into getting an extended battery as a replacement and any suggestions on the cheapest but most reliable battery to purchase would be helpful and I don't really mind if I have to have a larger back door on my phone. The cheapest I've found is a Trexcell with the back door for $16.99 free shipping. If anyone knows of anything better/cheaper please point me in the right direction.
Another issue I've been having is wifi will connect and reconnect uncontrollably whenever it feels like it, and the sprint connection optimizer was disabled since I Odin'd.
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^Thanked
I'm going to try installing GSAM and checking out what's going on in the background but as far as I can see nothing out of the ordinary is going on with the processes. On a side note when I took a look at my battery itself the sticker has pink X's on it. Not so sure if it's water damage per say but it may be condensation/humidity since I live in Florida. Looking into getting an extended battery as a replacement and any suggestions on the cheapest but most reliable battery to purchase would be helpful and I don't really mind if I have to have a larger back door on my phone. The cheapest I've found is a Trexcell with the back door for $16.99 free shipping. If anyone knows of anything better/cheaper please point me in the right direction.
Another issue I've been having is wifi will connect and reconnect uncontrollably whenever it feels like it, and the sprint connection optimizer was disabled since I Odin'd.
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Ya GSAM is a must have. I run it on every one of my devices. I was also getting some irregular battery drain. Then I looked at what apps where keeping my device awake the most and found that hotmail app had a 4 hour wake lock! Ouch! I uninstalled that and setup the default email client to check my hotmail hoping this will resolve my issue. But I can tell you right now nothing else is keeping my device awake that long so in theory this should solve my issue. You may want to go through this same exercise. After a couple of hours of running GSAM looking at which apps are using the most power. Then switch your view to "Time help awake" and see if something has a wake lock holding your device awake.
Good luck
I re-read garwynn's instructions for the one-click and realize that I made a mistake going from ICS (Lightweight) to FK23 without a full wipe. I thought I was paying closer attention when flashing, but I screwed up. Thankfully, this should be easily fixable. I'm running the one-click restore and am optimistic things will be better.
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Ya GSAM is a must have. I run it on every one of my devices. I was also getting some irregular battery drain. Then I looked at what apps where keeping my device awake the most and found that hotmail app had a 4 hour wake lock! Ouch! I uninstalled that and setup the default email client to check my hotmail hoping this will resolve my issue. But I can tell you right now nothing else is keeping my device awake that long so in theory this should solve my issue. You may want to go through this same exercise. After a couple of hours of running GSAM looking at which apps are using the most power. Then switch your view to "Time help awake" and see if something has a wake lock holding your device awake.
Good luck
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Well after installing gsam I was able to see that after going from 77% to 15% in just over 4 hours with 1 hour screen time I noticed that media server had 293 wakelocks with 1 hour of time held awake...might have found the culprit...will keep you guys updated as im sure it will help a few...just wanted to update that I switched to Universe JB to see if it was just that tar...apparently it wasn't seeing just as much battery drain
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And now I also figured out that the media server was not the only culprit. The battery seems to be the problem after numerous tests returning results that the battery was only a 1175 mah battery instead of what it should be 1800 mah. The battery does not spin so don't always judge by that test alone. After deciding to put my OG Epic 4G slider battery in and take it for a spin these are the results I have so far with 300 mah less (1500 total) here is the screen shots below from a full charge
*EDIT * I'm now running blu Kuban FI27 and tested also with the stock 1800mah battery still dies rapidly and WiFi still disconnects and reconnects randomly
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Averaging 10% loss every hour
I am experiencing roughly 8-12%, so averaging around 10% loss every hour with moderate to slightly heavy use. Right now after 5 hours & 10 minutes i am at 50%. I have Facebook & an Exchange email synced and was on a phone call for over an hour, have been texting a bit and using email, the internet & Facebook. I have removed Sprint ID, which seems to run in the background along with Sprint radio, Nascar, Yahoo Stocks & News, so that may be helping a little. Overall I think that the battery performance has improved for me.
I was experiencing some pretty bad drain but after letting the kernel settle for a few days and disabling the location services, I can easily make it through the day
My batter time stinks!
I'm also getting 9% per hour battery drain. I have a Tasker profile running which turns off DATA when the screen is off. Most of the day, my phone has not been in use and I'm still getting battery drain. BetterBatteryStats shows that a process called "surfaceflinger" (Android System) has used the most followed by "googlequicksearchbox" followed by Gmail. Partial Wakelocks report says "signalCollector.Scanner has a count of 4844 and "LocationRecieverService" has a count of 3411 with "LocationReportingService" having a count of 5625. However, all of these combined only add up to 2% so I'm confused as to what is burning my battery.
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I'm also getting 9% per hour battery drain. I have a Tasker profile running which turns off DATA when the screen is off. Most of the day, my phone has not been in use and I'm still getting battery drain. BetterBatteryStats shows that a process called "surfaceflinger" (Android System) has used the most followed by "googlequicksearchbox" followed by Gmail. Partial Wakelocks report says "signalCollector.Scanner has a count of 4844 and "LocationRecieverService" has a count of 3411 with "LocationReportingService" having a count of 5625. However, all of these combined only add up to 2% so I'm confused as to what is burning my battery.
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Have u checked to make sure your battery isn't going bad? Take it out and try spinning it on a table on both sides if it spins like a top its starting to bulge, bulging battery = bad battery
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Just did spin test as suggested. The battery did indeed spin like a top on both sides. Just ordered a replacement. Has anyone tried one of the "Gold" 2430mAh batteries made in Japan and being sold on Ebay from China?

[Q] Initial charge?

I hate to be the guy that asks this, but I just want to make sure as from what I understand this is different from phone to phone. From what I understand, Li-Ion batteries, like the GN2's, do not have a memory effect of any kind? And thus all battery calibration rituals and nonsense are entirely pointless for this handset?
The reason I ask is because I wasn't able to charge the device to 100% before use like I was always told to do with new phones. My device was turned on and used until it drained to around 10% at which point it was charged to 100%.
Now, after 2 weeks of use, I feel that my battery is not as good as it should be. I'm barely able to get more that 12 hours. I'd be happy to post some battery graphs in the morning.
One last thing, if I did mess up my battery, or if my battery is messed up or less functional than it should be, would buying a new battery fix all my problems?
Youvare right. All that calibration stuff is nonsense.
I have never charged my phone to full before using and draining the battery and my phone still lasts all day on mostly heavy use.
Could you post your batt stats?
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Today I ran my phone with the "lowest" possible settings, that is lowest brightness, CPU power saving, and no haptic feedback. I did not turn off wifi. Doing this I was able to get a surprising 16 hours, although you can see from the graph that I didn't use my phone as much. Attached I have a screenshot of what it's like with the highest possible settings (no power saving stuff, and brightness all the way up, but no GPS). Sorry I don't have a pic of the percentages for the high settings, I never thought to do that.
What concerns me the most is this: even with the lowest settings, I'm only getting 2 hours screen time. (last pic)
What's interesting is that you would think that if I'm getting such poor screen time, there would be something else using a lot of battery, but there isn't. This led me to believe the problem was with the battery. I discovered a pretty big scratch on my screen the other day, and I have some monthly insurance plan from best buy, so I was thinking of just getting a new one. The longer I wait to get a new one, the harder it will be to set up everything again. lol
I noticed that compared to other GN2s, mine seems to wake up a lot when the screen isn't on. The awake periods tend to correspond with drops in battery and also when I have a poor signal. Could this be caused by my phone trying to look for signal and using battery?
Yes poor signal that results in the phone searching for better 3g/2g will drain the batteey faster.
Can you try using it in airplane mode with wifi only for a day and see how that goes?
Also install Better Battery Stats and after a day or so of normal usage check your partial unlocks to see if a rogue app is preventing deep sleep and sucking your juice.
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Yeah it us definitely your signal playing a role. Also you have a lot of wakelocks showing up
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Dude you have major wakelocks that eat up 80 % of your battery!
Go to application manager and remove all the apps you don't use.
K, I agree with my week signal using battery. I only have 75 apps on my phone and they're all pretty mainstream, no obscure apps. Right now im in school with 86% battery, I'm turning on airplane mode now. I have noticed however that when I clear my ram it closes like 50-60 processes each time. I am always closing my apps, but 50 seems extremely high. im gonna turn on airplane mode and see how that goes...
thanks!
Yes, you do have poor signal but that's not all. You have terrible wakelocks pal. Install BBS and monitor which apps are the culprit. It's not about 75 apps, even 2 or 3 bad apps, which have hidden advertisement going on could suck your battery flat in no time.
So first thing, install BBS. 2h screen on time is horrible!
Btw- If you're on 3G, try to switch to 2G. Difference will be unthinkable.
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Thanks everyone! I'm really loaded with school work, so I don't have a lot of time right now. But long story short, airplane mode saves my battery like crazy. I started school with 86%, turned on airplane mode, and I'm at 79% right now! more later
Is it safe to say I fixed it?
3h screen over 2 days isnt bad right? Perhaps just a bit worse than what others are getting?
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