Using non-oem batteries? - General Accessories

How risky is it to use non-oem batteries that can be found on eBay?

In most cases, it's fine. I have several non-oem batteries for my g1 and they perform about the same. However, if you don't want to risk a battery explosion and possibly death (in an extreme case), it is best to stick with an oem battery.

i bought several for different electronics. only issues i had was either it being doa or slight bursting. the slight bursting was on a smartphone and only happened once which was 3 years ago when the phone had overheated.

I think you'd probably be okay, but i'd avoid really dirt cheap batteries from Chinese sellers on eBay - there are a few reasonably well known 3rd party companies that are cheaper than OEM but still trustworthy!

jonseager said:
I think you'd probably be okay, but i'd avoid really dirt cheap batteries from Chinese sellers on eBay - there are a few reasonably well known 3rd party companies that are cheaper than OEM but still trustworthy!
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This. Never cheap out (quality wise) on your phones battery! A low quality battery will not hold it's charge well, and could pose a harmful threat. You shouldn't risk your phone (or yourself!) over a cheap battery. If it's significantly cheaper than any other battery you can find, be cautious.

They don't usually cause damage to your phone.
The problem with brand x chinese batteries is the mah ratings are usually just made up numbers. When tested the actual mah are often much lower. Sometimes less than the stock battery from the phone oem.

yeah personally i dont like to use aftermarket batteries after having one explode on me on my old Moto Razr.

Avoid very cheap batteries, they tend to die quickly.

i advise you to use Anker or Mugen batteries.

Best to use the OEM ones, less likely to explode and work best with your phone.
Also, if you do get third party batteries and they do explode, then you probably voided your warranty and can't claim.

Don't expect longevity or high performance, but they will do temporarily. Just a warning from experience, some times those cheaper batteries will cause your phone to not measure battery consumption as accurately.
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every battery non oem have a risk, choose your battery carefully, and find some good recommendation before you decide to buy it..

thank you for your post keep it up

Some are shady also may call it a 2000 mha but it really is a 1200mha battery. Brands to stick with seidio also heard good things about gorilla batteries.
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Do yourself a favor guys....

Stop the debacle and concern on whether or not the 1700mah, 1600mah 1500mah blah blah blah batteries are better than stock.. I have a LOT of experience with Li-Po and Li-Ion batteries (cell phones use Li-Ion technology) and I can tell you WITHOUT a doubt that all these knock off companies are full of SH^* trying to say there batteries are of a higher capacity than the stock battery while staying the same size. Although it is possible to cram more mah into the same size package with li-ion batteries it is VERY unlikely to be able to do so with the current technology out right now. Most of these companies rate their mah on a different scale and actually will pull the battery to a lower voltage to justify their claims when it dosent matter because cell phones have a safety feature that has to shut the phone down at the specified voltage to prevent fires. Yes fires, Li-Ion has a fire risk if it is depleted all the way, not the same risk as a Li-Po battery but a risk just the same. HTC has a separate department that deals specifically with batteries and I can assure you they know and use the most up-to-date batteries they can get their hands on for these devices. There is nothing for them to gain by using inferior batteries in our phone. Those that have purchased the seidio 1600 extended battery and claim to have a better life on the phone are under a placebo effect. If you are just purchasing this "Extended" battery as a spare than buy all means go right ahead but dont expect a miraculous two hours extra from it because it is of lesser quality than the stock battery. I have hundreds of dollars in battery testing and logging equipment and If you guys dont believe me i will run some tests on the stock vs. whichever battery you'd like me too and post the data for all to see, but Ive been down this road before with htc phones and have always come up with the same conclusion......The aftermarket "Extended" batteries actually have less mah's than their stock counterparts.
Of course Im not referring to the htc extended battery in this post, its obviously pushing more mah's with its monstrous size, lol.
....just sayin..
Oh' and to elaborate because Ive also read some concerns over the length of time for charging the thunderbolt (which does seem lengthy I will admit).
Since our phone has such a hard time time keeping up with a normal days use I believe what htc has done is given the battery a longer "saturation charge" for the battery to completely charge before it completes the charge cycle.
Li-ion batteries are charged on a 3 cycle charge system and stage two is what is considered the saturation cycle where the battery may sit at a relatively static voltage for a period of time to saturate the cells with current to top off the charge, some cell phones skimp on this step to give the phone a fast charge time which is termed "charge-and-run" and people assume the device has been adequately charged when it has not. For an adequate "FULL" charge without harming the battery or affecting battery life, typically li-ion batteries take approx. 3-4 hours.
So the 3 batteries I got for 12$ on ebay ARE paperweights?
1234567188 said:
So the 3 batteries I got for 12$ on ebay ARE paperweights?
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No. The two I bought for $44 are. How much do oem batteries cost?
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I wouldnt go that far, I doubt any of the batteries are "paperweights" yet. Im just making the point that the claims of higher capacity are unfounded and the cheap knock-offs are of lesser quality. Also check where the batteries are made. Good quality Li-ion cells come from Japan.
One thing to note with the cheapies is the temp while charging or under heavy use. Get a temp monitor app and compare between the stock and your aftermarket batteries, they will probably run hotter. Unfortunately I dont have any other batteries to test for you guys other than the stock OEM battery otherwise I would. If I pick any up Ill cycle the stock vs. aftermarket and post the data log between the two.
Also I didnt mean the "fire" comment to worry anyone, Li-ion batteries have protection curcuit that will render the battery useless and unserviceable if the cell reaches a voltage of 2.70v or lower which is where the chemistry of li-ion becomes unstable.
I'll ship your one of the two 1700 when I get it if you wanna test it and post results. Just ask that you ship it back after your done.
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good info, thanks!
1234567188 said:
So the 3 batteries I got for 12$ on ebay ARE paperweights?
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ha, I bought the same ones you did.
I didn't expect them to be as good as the 1400 mAh battery that comes with the phone. I just wanted to have a spare battery available in case I'm traveling and watching movies or something (on a plane). Even though it says it's 1500 mAh, I expect them to be more around 1200 - 1400 mAh.
Check this website for some information on similar battery testing.
http://batteryboss.org/
I used their results when I purchased the Seido 3500 for my Evo.
I've used Chinese batteries every chance I get. They do work. From an Eris to the Dinc. 3500mah. Never had a problem. Emails and games etc. I bought the extended battery along with the Tbolt. Just don't like the hump on the back. I'm on eBay every night waiting for the Chinese to strike with a extended battery. At least a Better extended back cover. For $10.99 free shipping ill wait 2 weeks for it. F%$% what u heard their cheap batteries work.
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Every cheap battery I have ever used has worked great.... for 2 weeks.
reg83ny said:
For $10.99 free shipping ill wait 2 weeks for it. F%$% what u heard their cheap batteries work.
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lol thats hilarious
1234567188 said:
So the 3 batteries I got for 12$ on ebay ARE paperweights?
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ddgarcia05 said:
No. The two I bought for $44 are. How much do oem batteries cost?
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This was the best part of the thread.
Awwz.... Well I DO know of one way.... connect a bunch of AA batteries in parallel, bust out a dremel, and create a frankenbattery!
ddgarcia05 said:
I'll ship your one of the two 1700 when I get it if you wanna test it and post results. Just ask that you ship it back after your done.
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I appreciate it bro, but Id rather not be responsible for someone elses battery lol. Im sure Ill get bored soon enough and order up the batts then do some tests just for shi^s and giggles...
firedude12 said:
I appreciate it bro, but Id rather not be responsible for someone elses battery lol. Im sure Ill get bored soon enough and order up the batts then do some tests just for shi^s and giggles...
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If you do I recommend you buy the 1500 MyTouch4G batteries from ChiChi's htcexpress or their store on amazon. They should be the same a the 1700 Thunderbolt batteries and $20 cheaper.
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Check this website for some information on similar battery testing.
http://batteryboss.org/
I used their results when I purchased the Seido 3500 for my Evo.
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When I get around to ordering up the batteries Ill post a chart like that on a seperate thread for our phone. I have some pretty sophisticated logging equipment. It shows the temp, charge capacity, voltage, mah, cell balance and health in an easy to read graph.
Im not a battery nerd but I used to be into RC helicopters BIG time and when you have a $5000.00 helicopter that can kill someone its just normal practice to have the equipment to check your $800 batteries so they dont fail 80 feet in the air and blow up or decapitate someone, lol
Heres a video of one of my helicopters (Trex 700 electric) , this one uses two 6s 5000mah li-po batteries and each one costs over $300 and they only last 8 minutes before there dead The video isnt of me however, I need a video camera to post mine but the helicopter is identical for the most part.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANsH5FZq6XA
(speaking from g1, nexus, and g2 experience only)
i've bought extended batteries for phones for less than $15 each all in the 2400 to 3600 mah range. they last 2-3 days with normal use. the oldest one is 3 years old (g1) and still performs like new.
iirc the seller was based in hongkong.
just saying.
the htc extended battery
personally of all the batteries i have tried this is by far the best one until sedio has an 3500mah then i will be getting that i think

[Q] Acesoft 1970mAh and China OEM batteries?

Has anyone tried out the T989 replacement batteries from Acesoft or 1950 mAh China OEMs on eBay? I try to avoid China vendors and wait for US seller so I can dispute the sale if their mAh claims are way off.
From the US there seems to be several vendors selling Acesoft 1970 mAh batteries. No individual batteries, just bundles so far
1 Battery and charger ~$27
2 Batteries + charger ~$40
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw...battery&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
You can also get them on Amazon for about the same price
Now in this post it was hinted that the Infuse batteries would fit in the T989. If this is the case, you can get 2 batteries for $30 from here.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B005FD3LM6/electronicblogall-20
The China OEM 1950mAh batteries are $3.70 a pop. Might be better to get 6 of these vs 1 Acesoft one.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw...acesoft&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
Before writing this post, I was tending to get the Acesoft batteries, but given how cheap the China OEMs are I might just get 4 of those and wait for the Acesoft ones to get cheaper.
If anyone has experience with either batteries please post here. I'd also like to hear from anyone who is using an Infuse battery.
just so you know, those batteries does not include NFC they are just plain batteries
and even though they say 1970 mAh, i don't think they are really that high, they will most likely be around the 1650 mAh area in actual use.
buyers beware
AllGamer said:
just so you know, those batteries does not include NFC they are just plain batteries
and even though they say 1970 mAh, i don't think they are really that high, they will most likely be around the 1650 mAh area in actual use.
buyers beware
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Not really worried about NFC. Haven't used it yet. I'm looking for extra batteries for longer trips (e.g. flight to Asia), where I'm using the phone as a video or audio player.
I wouldn't mind a battery for $3.70 with 89% of the capacity of an original one. If anyone has bought either battery I'd like to hear about your experiences.
in that case it's all good, go for it
i use those china made after market quite often on all my devices, and they do work good, just don't expect the advertised capacity
i'll use the included wall charger to charge them just in case
AllGamer said:
in that case it's all good, go for it
i use those china made after market quite often on all my devices, and they do work good, just don't expect the advertised capacity
i'll use the included wall charger to charge them just in case
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Thank you for your advice.

Just a note regarding aftermarket batteries

JUST A HEADS UP for other Galaxy Nexus owners
Cheap Chinese batteries are ALWAYS (well, mostly) overrated.
Then there is a matter of safety.
Li-Ion batteies have protection circuits built in (for overcharge / over discharge protection).
Cheap chinese cells usually DO NOT.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
PS: I GUARANTEE this battery is NOT 2300mah. I'd estimate it at around 1000 - 1500.
Sources: Experience building / flying electric R/C airplanes running on Li-Ion batteries
THS1989 said:
JUST A HEADS UP for other Galaxy Nexus owners
Cheap Chinese batteries are ALWAYS (well, mostly) overrated.
Then there is a matter of safety.
Li-Ion batteies have protection circuits built in (for overcharge / over discharge protection).
Cheap chinese cells usually DO NOT.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
PS: I GUARANTEE this battery is NOT 2300mah. I'd estimate it at around 1000 - 1500.
Sources: Experience building / flying electric R/C airplanes running on Li-Ion batteries
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I don't think its a great idea going around generalizing things, especially generalizing the 'chinese' regardless if you're right or not. just saying.
Aren't most batteries from China anyway. Hahaha.
I think that the cheap as ones being sold on eBay are cheap because there's much less quality control which often result in heightened prices of genuine electronics we pay for. It's the risk a lot are willing to take considering the price and the blow up rate.
Common knowledge I'd say.
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Also I believe the batteries on the LTE version are where the NFC chip is, so no Samsung battery = no NFC.

Samsung High Capacity Battery

Hey guys! So i posted smth abt Bloated Battery and u guys told me to change it. Surfing the net when i came across this online shop that sells 2480mAh Battery for the Galaxy W (and others) and i wonder whether its real cos' i dont think such small slim battery can that much mAh rite? But also, its made in Japan NOT China so i expect to see "quality" here
check the one in my signature, it's exactly the same
i cannot compare it with stock one because stock one behaves badly after some overheats and experiments
everything is chinese but mine imho is quite nice, got 340 antutu battery score with it
the screenshot in sig is also made using it
dimaka1256 said:
check the one in my signature, it's exactly the same
i cannot compare it with stock one because stock one behaves badly after some overheats and experiments
everything is chinese but mine imho is quite nice, got 340 antutu battery score with it
the screenshot in sig is also made using it
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So it means, the mAh on the "Gold" one is exactly the same (1500) but behaves somewhat more better than stock?
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don't have any equipment to exactly measure the mAh, possibly it's about stock one
feels nice to replace damaged stock one but seems not to be a variant for super upgrade
haven't you seen anyone post antutu battery score here to compare?
or any method to measure the stats?
PS overall i'm satisfied, it's worth it's 7$
TiTAN-O-One said:
Hey guys! So i posted smth abt Bloated Battery and u guys told me to change it. Surfing the net when i came across this online shop that sells 2480mAh Battery for the Galaxy W (and others) and i wonder whether its real cos' i dont think such small slim battery can that much mAh rite? But also, its made in Japan NOT China so i expect to see "quality" here
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This is the ultracheap golden one I was talking about in the other threat where you asked about freezing your bloated battery.. Having here 2. Each for 5 Euro.
So well. This batteries never ever do have this capacity. Somwhere around stock capacity or a bit less. They do not last that long like a Samsungs battery, so you will have to reacharge it a bit more often than a new Samsung battery. It´s even a bit thinner than a regular 1500mA battery.
However there is one advantage in using it. It´s a LI-Polymer battery. Not a Li-Ion battery. So it doesn´t use an fluid but a polymer and therefore the risks to get it bloated are much less than with a LI-Ion battery. I ran them also really hot and they didn´t get bloated so far.
When this battery would have about the same thickness like the Stock Samsung battery it really would offer more capacity but thus it´s thinner it has just about the same or a bit less and the 2480mAh are just fake.
So well you can use it as an replacement. Just don´t expect it to last longer than a stock battery.
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This is the ultracheap golden one I was talking about in the other threat where you asked about freezing your bloated battery.. Having here 2. Each for 5 Euro.
So well. This batteries never ever do have this capacity. Somwhere around stock capacity or a bit less. They do not last that long like a Samsungs battery, so you will have to reacharge it a bit more often than a new Samsung battery. It´s even a bit thinner than a regular 1500mA battery.
However there is one advantage in using it. It´s a LI-Polymer battery. Not a Li-Ion battery. So it doesn´t use an fluid but a polymer and therefore the risks to get it bloated are much less than with a LI-Ion battery. I ran them also really hot and they didn´t get bloated so far.
When this battery would have about the same thickness like the Stock Samsung battery it really would offer more capacity but thus it´s thinner it has just about the same or a bit less and the 2480mAh are just fake.
So well you can use it as an replacement. Just don´t expect it to last longer than a stock battery.
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Wait, Li-Polymer? I went researching and they said tht its the most dangerous battery in the world. They say tht its more likely to explode if u overcharge. I don't exactly know whether it true or not but u shld try search on YT abt it...
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TiTAN-O-One said:
Wait, Li-Polymer? I went researching and they said tht its the most dangerous battery in the world. They say tht its more likely to explode if u overcharge. I don't exactly know whether it true or not but u shld try search on YT abt it...
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That´s nonsense. The polymer is a static foil which can´t boil and create gases like the fluid in LI-Ion batteries. Well you can make everything explode. Even a banana by sending a flash with thousands Ampere through it.
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That´s nonsense. The polymer is a static foil which can´t boil and create gases like the fluid in LI-Ion batteries. Well you can make everything explode. Even a banana by sending a flash with thousands Ampere through it.
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Hhahaa so in other words, Li-Po is less likely to get damages?
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TiTAN-O-One said:
Hhahaa so in other words, Li-Po is less likely to get damages?
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Exactly. It´s an improved Li-Ion. Way easier to manufacture, less risky and even can offer higher capacity density.
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Exactly. It´s an improved Li-Ion. Way easier to manufacture, less risky and even can offer higher capacity density.
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why did cellphone manufacturers insist of using more expensive li-ion?
as u say it is better n safer, but li-polymer battery has lesser energy output than li-ion battery.
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That´s nonsense. The polymer is a static foil which can´t boil and create gases like the fluid in LI-Ion batteries. Well you can make everything explode. Even a banana by sending a flash with thousands Ampere through it.
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LOOOOLLLLZ! i like that exploding banana thing!
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why did cellphone manufacturers insist of using more expensive li-ion?
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Many cellphone manucafturers already switched to Li-Polymer battries but those who don´t are still having legit contracts with LI-Ion battery manufacturers which they are forced to fullfill. This has nothing to with reality but with making bussiness and telling the customers what they want them to belife.
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as u say it is better n safer, but li-polymer battery has lesser energy output than li-ion battery.
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Sorry but there you are wrong.
The difference between them lies in the material used as the separator. Rather than an inert substance with holes covered in electrolyte, the separator is made of a micro-porous polymer covered in an electrolytic gel that also serves as a catalyst that reduces the energy barrier in the chemical reaction between cathode and anode. Therefore, Li-Polymer batteries allow for a slight increase in energy density.
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Sources:
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/15775_How_do_Lithium_batteries_work.php
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/lithium_based_batteries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_polymer_battery
google search li-polymer vs li-ion battery, comes up with many links. such as;
http://www.androidauthority.com/lithium-ion-vs-lithium-polymer-whats-the-difference-27608/
http://www.buchmann.ca/article6-page1.asp
Risks and limitations on li-polymer battery:
1) Overcharging a Li-poly battery can cause an explosion or fire.
2) During discharge on load, the load has to be removed as soon as the voltage drops below approximately 3.0 V per cell (used in a series combination), or else the battery will subsequently no longer accept a full charge and may experience problems holding voltage under load. Li-poly batteries can be protected by circuitry that prevents over-charge and deep-discharge.
3) Compared to the lithium-ion battery, Li-poly is less advantageous in terms of life cycle degradation rate.
4) Lithium polymer-specific chargers are required in order to avoid fire and explosion.
5) Explosions can also occur if the battery is short-circuited, as tremendous current passes through the cell in an instant. Radio-control enthusiasts take special precautions to ensure their battery leads are properly connected and insulated. Furthermore fires can occur if the cell or pack is punctured.
6) While charging the lithium polymer batteries, the individual cells in the pack should be charged evenly. For this purpose, the cells are to be charged with special chargers. This entails special care while charging the batteries in addition to incurring expenses on procuring the chargers specific to lithium polymer batteries.
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google search li-polymer vs li-ion battery, comes up with many links. such as;
http://www.androidauthority.com/lithium-ion-vs-lithium-polymer-whats-the-difference-27608/
http://www.buchmann.ca/article6-page1.asp
Risks and limitations on li-polymer battery:
1) Overcharging a Li-poly battery can cause an explosion or fire.
2) During discharge on load, the load has to be removed as soon as the voltage drops below approximately 3.0 V per cell (used in a series combination), or else the battery will subsequently no longer accept a full charge and may experience problems holding voltage under load. Li-poly batteries can be protected by circuitry that prevents over-charge and deep-discharge.
3) Compared to the lithium-ion battery, Li-poly is less advantageous in terms of life cycle degradation rate.
4) Lithium polymer-specific chargers are required in order to avoid fire and explosion.
5) Explosions can also occur if the battery is short-circuited, as tremendous current passes through the cell in an instant. Radio-control enthusiasts take special precautions to ensure their battery leads are properly connected and insulated. Furthermore fires can occur if the cell or pack is punctured.
6) While charging the lithium polymer batteries, the individual cells in the pack should be charged evenly. For this purpose, the cells are to be charged with special chargers. This entails special care while charging the batteries in addition to incurring expenses on procuring the chargers specific to lithium polymer batteries.
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Thankyou for the information i did know that.
did u know the batteries use by apple iphone, ipad, itablet and ipod?
they all use li-polymer battery and non-removable, need apple authorized centers to replace battery.
saintsoh said:
google search li-polymer vs li-ion battery, comes up with many links. such as;
http://www.androidauthority.com/lithium-ion-vs-lithium-polymer-whats-the-difference-27608/
http://www.buchmann.ca/article6-page1.asp
Risks and limitations on li-polymer battery:
1) Overcharging a Li-poly battery can cause an explosion or fire.
2) During discharge on load, the load has to be removed as soon as the voltage drops below approximately 3.0 V per cell (used in a series combination), or else the battery will subsequently no longer accept a full charge and may experience problems holding voltage under load. Li-poly batteries can be protected by circuitry that prevents over-charge and deep-discharge.
3) Compared to the lithium-ion battery, Li-poly is less advantageous in terms of life cycle degradation rate.
4) Lithium polymer-specific chargers are required in order to avoid fire and explosion.
5) Explosions can also occur if the battery is short-circuited, as tremendous current passes through the cell in an instant. Radio-control enthusiasts take special precautions to ensure their battery leads are properly connected and insulated. Furthermore fires can occur if the cell or pack is punctured.
6) While charging the lithium polymer batteries, the individual cells in the pack should be charged evenly. For this purpose, the cells are to be charged with special chargers. This entails special care while charging the batteries in addition to incurring expenses on procuring the chargers specific to lithium polymer batteries.
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The same thing i wondered. Search at YT and they said Li-Po is dangerous
Video Link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DcpANRFrI4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
TiTAN-O-One said:
Hey guys! So i posted smth abt Bloated Battery and u guys told me to change it. Surfing the net when i came across this online shop that sells 2480mAh Battery for the Galaxy W (and others) and i wonder whether its real cos' i dont think such small slim battery can that much mAh rite? But also, its made in Japan NOT China so i expect to see "quality" here
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lets return back to the main topic.
it is too cheap compare to oem battery, so dont expect goods specs be accordance to wat it advertised.
it cant be li-polymer battery, too expensive to manufacture.
2480mAh?? do a search buyers claim it to be below 1200mAh.
google search the 2900mAh battery, thickness is double, this is many claim to be the true deal.
china have many rejection parts from corporation companies, their sub-contractors to sub-sub contractors to sub-sub-sub small companies.
many will recycle to gain back some of their loss $$$ on rejections instead of dispose/destroy those parts.
saintsoh said:
lets return back to the main topic.
it is too cheap compare to oem battery, so dont expect goods specs be accordance to wat it advertised.
it cant be li-polymer battery, too expensive to manufacture.
2480mAh?? do a search buyers claim it to be below 1200mAh.
google search the 2900mAh battery, thickness is double, this is many claim to be the true deal.
china have many rejection parts from corporation companies, their sub-contractors to sub-sub contractors to sub-sub-sub small companies.
many will recycle to gain back some of their loss $$$ on rejections instead of dispose/destroy those parts.
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Its okay really, we can somewhat "compare" with the OEM battery (but since mines bloated ) and "gold" one in an Antutu Benchmark test... Who knows?
Typing using a Mini 2 -.-"
TiTAN-O-One said:
Its okay really, we can somewhat "compare" with the OEM battery (but since mines bloated ) and "gold" one in an Antutu Benchmark test... Who knows?
Typing using a Mini 2 -.-"
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very easy
someone with stock battery performs the test and compares to my screenshot
anyone can?
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saintsoh said:
lets return back to the main topic.
it is too cheap compare to oem battery, so dont expect goods specs be accordance to wat it advertised.
it cant be li-polymer battery, too expensive to manufacture.
2480mAh?? do a search buyers claim it to be below 1200mAh.
google search the 2900mAh battery, thickness is double, this is many claim to be the true deal.
china have many rejection parts from corporation companies, their sub-contractors to sub-sub contractors to sub-sub-sub small companies.
many will recycle to gain back some of their loss $$$ on rejections instead of dispose/destroy those parts.
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Oh wehhh. All the disadvanteges you are listing up in your previous post are also related to LI-Ion and every other battery.
Like I already said. Overcharging a banana with a flash will make it also explode. A flash hitting your head will also overcharge you. It can make your eyes explode and will boil your blood imediatelly. Why do you think they are bounding the eyes for people who are getting killed on electrical chairs? Because their eyes are exploding when the current is streaming through their body.
The same to short circuit a battery. Even a silly carbon battery will explode under this circumstates. That´s also why most batteries used for phones are having a short circuit protection. Even the old NiCd batteries which were used in the stone old cellphones.
About droping below 3V. This is legit for both. LI-Polymer and LI-Ion. Not only to LI-Polymer.
LI-Polymer batteries are charged the same way like LI-Ion batteries. The source telling it needs an special charger is a guy who is just sharing his opinion without referring to fundamental sources.
The other source is from 2001 and rather outdated when it comes to density but even there the guy says it´s less dangerous to catch fire.
To sum this up it seems like you just are collecting contrary claims like the guy in your first source without being objective just to make this type of battery to appear worse compared to the older LI-Ion batteries. But not telling the full truth to make it appear like LI-Polymer can explode when overcharged but LI-Ion can not. And this is for me bending the truth.
And to be exact. Not Li-Ion battieries began in 1912 but simple non rechargable Lithium batteries like the one used in watches. Rechargable LI-Ion batteries began in the 70´s and Li-Polymer is the further developement of LI-Ion batteries where newer manufacturing processes and developement make it even safer and having a higher density.
So last but not least. It IS a LI-Polymer battery. It has no hard case like Li-Ion batteries require to have to hold the fluid in it. You can bend this battery forth and back like all li-Polymer batteries. On the back side it even says it´s a Li-Polymer battery, but the missing hard case and the bending test are enough evidence for being one.
AND it has been said already many times it´s never ever 2400mAh but somwhere around stock capacity. The is just fake to get better sales.
However for this money there is nothing wrong in buying it as an replacement.

[BATTERY MODS SUMMARY THREAD] So, about battery replacements...

Hello there, Nexus 5 enthusiasts.
It's been quite a while since we talked about it and people reported regularly about their battery replacements here on XDA for their nexus 5.
With this thread I'm just going to try and ask for help to the modding community, as I've been through hell and back, and after many batteries purchased, dremel quests, soldering smokes, fingers burned and quite a bit of swearing, I'm still here, stuck with a provisory battery (the only LG G2 one that managed to not die) that boasts the astonishing capacity of 1630mAh.
I've become a walking charger man, always looking for the next electric socket to plug my N5 into.
This has to stop.
So I gave up my search engines quest and I'm asking for your human help.
I'm picturing this thread as some kind of "summary thread", in which we sum up our experiences and our successes, and see what works and what doesn't.
Please post your experience in here if you've been successful in extending your Nexus 5 battery life with a battery mod, and please indicate where you bought the battery (paste the shop link)
So, as far as I understand, it looks like:
° Some korean guy bought the 525666 3020 mAh battery from taobao and managed to slam it into the N5 dremeling the chassis. This option, however, isn't viable, as european and american people cannot have batteries shipped to them from China (something about safety regulations), so we Westerners cannot adopt this solution.
° The LG g2's 3000 mAh batteries are too old and will yield abysmal charge (see my experience with it). On top of that, there's virtually no way to know if you're receiving an original one
° Someone said that the N5X batteries are a viable option, and 2700mAh are enough.
° Looking through these N5 battery replacement threads, I've come to know that the 3020 525666 battery from taobao is actually the Xiaomi Mi4 battery. Is this true? If it is, westerners could purchase one outside taobao on ebay or amazon or similar. Would purchasing the Mi4 battery and modding it with the original N5 battery circuit be a good solution? However the voltage of this battery is 4.40V, much higher than the 3.8V of the original. Is this okay or not?
The N5X option is certainly viable, however before spending more money, I'd like to make all the options clear for me and for all the people that are still interested in this mod.
Calling up @234herobrine432 and all the others
The Modders Battery Talk.
The truth is you can do the Lg G2 battery mod on a lot of batteries (And devices) it source doesn't need to be the Lg G2 battery and the destination doesn't need to be the Nexus 5. The main things you should consider are the Voltage and the Dimensions of the battery:
Voltage: You want the SAME as the OEM
mAh: Higher means longer lasting(Not always but assuming the Wh rating is also higher in the battery)
Wh: Same as OEM or Higher
As for how you can use a 4.4V battery to replace the 3.8V phone. The answer is simple the 3.8V is the nominal voltage rating of the LiPo battery meaning that the power delivery of it is actually between 4.35V and 3.0V (as stated on the OEM Battery). So the fully charged battery will output 4.35V that said if you put a 4.4V battery in a phone that's rated for 3.8V the circuit will stop charging the battery at 4.35V. That said the 4.4V minimum voltage is almost the same but a higher maximum voltage I.e 4.4V vs 4.35V. So Tl:dr you can but it's not the best idea.
Now since you want to get more battery capacity, look at alternative LiPo Batteries for batteries that will fit into the Nexus 5. A good starting point would be BL-T32 and BL-T34. Dimensions might not be exactly the same as I have yet to try but the battery itself will work. Alternatively assuming you have a 3d printer you could just get away with printing a new backplate and don't have to worry about the Dimensions of the new battery.
As for sites I've used for OEMs are (Made account to answer to this so can't post hyperlinks):
spareslg.com => Nexus 5X OEM battery
globaldirectparts.com => LG G2 OEM Battery
Hope this Helps.
copy pasted from my other reply, i just wanna share my thoughts. i bought a 3rd party battery straight from their official seller, here it is called SHOPEE.com: LOG-ON battery, claims to have 3500mah, which i doubt. but the good thing is, i found a manufactured stickered on physical battery 04/2018. so yea, might as well buy third party one. it is newer, less hassle. and in dollar, its about $4 shipped.
Hello sir i found one battery in aliexpress.com claiming to have 3500 mah capacity which is compatible with nexus 5 blt9 variety. Can i be able to use that extra juice? Does the system detects the extra battery capacity? Is there any modifications like flashing zip or terminal command to be made to make it work? Will it be useful? I'm pasting the link with the reply.i hope I'll get a reply
HSABAT 3500mAh BL-T9 for LG Google Nexus 5 Battery E980 Nexus G D820 D821 Nexus5 Megalodon D8 for LG Nexus 5 Battery
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/tOhxSk9E
Chinese Batteries Explained.
There are 3 Major Common Battery Mislabelers in China:
LOSONCOER
HSABAT
DA DA XIONG
Lets break down what each of them do:
TL;DR: POLARCELL for aftermarket batteries don't trust any of these 3.
HSABAT: Buys and sells lower end OEM batteries. When a company I.e samsung/google/apple or any brand orders a batch of batteries they are tested and the batch is ranked based on the tests. Normally higher end brands only accept the best batches. So the mid tier batches end up being bidded on by battery sellers or other resellers. HSABAT is one of these resellers. Except the batches that are normally bid on are 4-6 so the first 3 are normally bought off by the time HSABAT gets access to these for bids and might not even win the tier 4 and only the tier 6. So the batteries are Mislabeled Batteries none the less. I.e they are much lower capacity then stated but they are made at the same plant the OEM are made at.
Da Da Xiong: These guys buy USED OEM batteries and relabel them as well as joining on the bids for the lower tier batteries against HSABAT. I.e they are mislabeled if you lucky its a used OEM.
LOSONCOER: Same as first 2 but doesn't have as much sales so tends to be even lower end then the other 2. I.e doesn't have the profit needed for major bids. Also goes as far as to tell people that the readings are wrong and not to rip off the labels of the batteries to reveal the OEM logo to avoid unrest and lower reviews.
For people still looking for good batteries and dont live in the EU so PolarCell batteries are quite expensive should check out NOHON. They Ship for much cheaper then polarcell and this is my third battery that is indeed greater then the min of 2220mAh.
I recently purchased a PolarCell off eBay from the EU. Lets hope it makes it.
thirdlobe said:
I recently purchased a PolarCell off eBay from the EU. Lets hope it makes it.
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PolarCell battery came in and in the phone. Based off 3 charging sessions it looks the battery health is 89%. Better than the 87% I had but it does seem to consume as a slower rate.

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