Wifi radio strength - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Anyone having weak wifi radio where I get full bars with the e3d I get one bar on the epic touch and the speed are on half compared to my e3d any one else having this
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I have the same problem
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same problem,,,

I got time warner 20mbps down and 2mbps up. I only get one bar on wifi signal but i get full 20mbps and 2mbps up. i only used to get 7mbps with my og evo

Same problem
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Same problem. Mine cuts on and off every few minutes

Ditto.....

Ditto
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it is better than my EVO with CM7 but it is a little weak

No problems with mine. Rock solid!!! I can go to the end of my driveway and check the mail which is over ~125'

You can not look at the amount of bars you have. What do the bars mean? ! You have to actually look at the speeds if they have not changed then you have nothing to worry about. One bar on this phone might be the same as three bars on our old phone.
But if it's not working correctly all together then that is something ole' Sammi needs to fix.
Kiki
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Same problem here. If I am in the front room mine won't even connect to the router in the other room most times. Hope this gets fixed in a update.

You might check the galaxy s2 forums over at androidforums.com; I remember when i was following the gs2 that there were some issues with wifi; not sure if htey were resolved. Generally folks loved the phone nad thought the gps was decent; but there were one or two threads on wif. Not sure if they figured it out...

Same issue here. My laptop and my EVO3d have FULL bars while this phone is hovering back and forth between 2 bars and none. The connection even drops. It has a horrible wifi signal, even at work.
Maybe I will switch to the iPhone 4... they have the wifis.

Im thinkin just the bars are not what your used to seeing, mine always shows 0-2 bars but the connection is always solid.

I have a nexus s 4g. I think Sammy makes some weak radios. I have the same problem. OG evo works fine.

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I got time warner 20mbps down and 2mbps up. I only get one bar on wifi signal but i get full 20mbps and 2mbps up. i only used to get 7mbps with my og evo
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Yeah same here TimeWarner is good here. I had the nexus S 4g a week ago and that phone could not lock into a wifi signal even standing in front of the router so as much as i like it i said goodbye and hello Epic touch 4g even on 1bar its blazing fast.

I have the same issue, but I think it's also more of the signal indicator making it worse in your head...as it does mine! I'll hold a wireless signal at good strength but the WiFi icon has no bars...just the dot at the bottom! I did to some "field" tests in my driveway and yard with my Toshiba netbook, iPod touch, and ET4G; the netbook definitely had the best signal at a distance, the iPod in second, and the ET4G in VERY close third. Anyone think there could be a firmware fix or is it just a bad radio?

I read in two separate places that the fewer bars were due to a linear formula used to calculate them, which was not a standard in the industry.
When decibel levels were compared, they were about the same.
I don't know how true that is.

I guess that's possible but then what do you need to have FULL bars? I am sitting right next to my router and I only have 3 bars... Maybe I need to shove the Router antenna up my phone's mini port

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4G speeds not so great??

Hey there,
Just got my Epic and rooted it and am currently running SyndicateROM and the phone itself works great but my 4G speeds are REALLY spotty coming from my Evo. I usually pull 8 megs down but I'm not even getting a meg down anymore? I was wondering if anyone just had some basic troubleshooting suggestions before I go ahead and wipe the whole system. Thanks!
I'm on the xda app si I can't put a link for u but look fir a thread that says "want better 4g signal do this" do t jnie how much thar would help u bit maybe its just on sprint's end. How long has this been going on? Also try updating your prl. Good luck and let me know if u get it working better.
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My 4G compared to my friends 4G (they have an EVO) sucks too. I can hardly lock on 4G downstairs at my house, they get nice connection and the speed is sweet.
I tried the 4G update (i did it while I was upstairs as you need to be connected to do it) I did notice slight change in that I can now get 1 bar sometimes downstairs where I could never get one before, always get 1 4G bar upstairs (even though I live in a reported dark blue connection indoors area)
Here is that link muscle was talking about:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925898
the op said they went to a great 4G area and then did the tweak to their phone, then when they got back to the weak area (their home) they could connect where they could not before.
Anyhow, long story short. Seems EVO's 4G is much better than Epic's. I just NEEDED an keyboard.
Good luck

Anyone else have horrible Wifi range?

With my Epic, i'd always get 2 out of 3 bars for wifi in my room.. i'm only getting 1 bar for wifi in my room
Hmm, I guess i'm the only one
have you noticed difference in speed between the two?
I'm on the fence right now as to whether to go trade the MoPho in for a Sammy. Last Sammy I had was the Moment, so you can understand the hesitation...lol.
yeah i did notice the fact that my bars are lower than usual
it's on par with my previous E3D's and NS4G, not like that's any compliment.
This thing is killer at locking onto even a weak 3G signal though.
I noticed it too, I usually have 3 bars wifi with my old epic 4g but now on 2 to 1 bar?
I am as well... I had to go right beside my router to even connect.
I wonder if there is a battery-chugging mode like on the E3D...I'm not sure if that was HTC's idea or not. Hard to tell, looked like a optional stock component. It helped a ton, but, at the expense of your battery.
bars dont really tell you much...
this has been well documented that cellphone manufacturers are always changing how many bars = how many dB.
It's annoying, to say the least.
If I am not mistaken the epic 4g only had a wireless G card where epic touch 4g has an N card. If you are broadcasting both aka your router has N and G then its going to auto connect to the N signal. N is faster but has a shorter range.
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If I am not mistaken the epic 4g only had a wireless G card where epic touch 4g has an N card. If you are broadcasting both aka your router has N and G then its going to auto connect to the N signal. N is faster but has a shorter range.
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Almost everything you just said is incorrect. The Epic 4G supports 802.11N, and one of the primary functions of 802.11N besides increased speed is increased range. Every new standard of 802.11 focuses on improving both of these.
Mine seems to be as good as the EVO
I am having the same issue... Sitting in my living room I have full signal with my Evo... 1-2 bars with the SG2.
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Mine is showing 1bar and my wifes EVO is show 3 so I did a speedtest and the results are amazing 18down 4up for the E4GT and I didnt waste my time testing the EVO.
Same here, used to get three bars in this room with OG Epic, now only 1. Not worried about it though because the up/down speeds are right on.
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Someone already said this here but I think it needs to be restated. Just because you only have x amount of bars means next to nothing. Do a speed test and see what the difference is. Different companies will show different amount of bars for different amounts of signal strength (which can be very misleading). What really matters is your signal strength in dB, not your bars. If your EVO gets the same down and up speed as your E4GT, you probably have similar signal strength with your wireless connection regardless of how many bars you see.
mine is a lot better than my nexus s. about 4x better in fact.
Same here
But i did a sppedtest and it is a great connection 18 up 8 down these bars dont mean much
Same here. I'm one room over from my router and I only have 1-2 bars. My EVO3D has full.
I think they put the wifi radio in the bottom... When i cup it the signal goes down
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Very crappy signal.. (different from LOS)

Is this an issue for anyone else?
I just switched over from Evo 3D. And in my living room, where I used to get 2 bars on Evo, I get absolutely 0 on this phone. It goes in and out of roaming like 100 times while I'm there. And in the basement, where I used to get at least 1, I get roaming at all times.
Is there a fix for this?
(I searched on the 1st two pages of this section, and found nothing.)
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Is this an issue for anyone else?
I just switched over from Evo 3D. And in my living room, where I used to get 2 bars on Evo, I get absolutely 0 on this phone. It goes in and out of roaming like 100 times while I'm there. And in the basement, where I used to get at least 1, I get roaming at all times.
Is there a fix for this?
(I searched on the 1st two pages of this section, and found nothing.)
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I see the same signal strength on both phones. You should check with your local Sprint people for getting a refund or something.
This phone's reception is way worse than the evo 3D.
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Try calling Sprint and having them do a profile reset on their end and then update your PRL and profile while in your home. It helped me
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I can't compare to evo3d, but compared to evo 4g this phone is far worse reception. Also, wifi reception is at least as terrible. At is, assuming the DB levels and bars both correlate to the real signal level. I often send and receive calls with 0 bars. It makes no sense, but i've learned to live with the concept that 0 bars on an samsung epic 4g touch does not mean anything.
If you are roaming however where you previously got 2 bars.. well.. thats a different story. Try turning off roaming and see if you can't dial out.
i feel ya. both me and my father got new epic touches and i at least really love the phone.. but ... the 3g at least signal strength is subpar.
where i was getting -78 db on a moment
and he was getting -71 db on an evo
we are both hovering around the -101 db mark at home.
poor.
very sad because other than the poor signal strength outside of major areas these things blow my mind.
arozer said:
Is this an issue for anyone else?
I just switched over from Evo 3D. And in my living room, where I used to get 2 bars on Evo, I get absolutely 0 on this phone. It goes in and out of roaming like 100 times while I'm there. And in the basement, where I used to get at least 1, I get roaming at all times.
Is there a fix for this?
(I searched on the 1st two pages of this section, and found nothing.)
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Take it into Sprint store. They will do a test. My first SII ET had some other bug. I had very poor reception and very slow internet.
Yep. My speeds suck on 3g. Works great on 4g
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This phone's reception is way worse than the evo 3D.
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I am finding exact opposite results.
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if i lean forward on my couch, I get 1 bar sprint, lean back, nothing, unless i force roam to VZ, i get 2-3 on that... anyways, reception is about the same as for the OG epic for me, the 4g is way better for me though, I was in my work parking lot and got 13 megs down... but 4g is so spotty here I rarely turn it on. Anyways, with the Network Vision thingy going on... I suspect some crazy signal drops/increases coming...
10-13Mbps download speeds on full bar 4G at home. No LOS, Not a single issue with this phone. Battery life is amazing. I am finding it hard to be on the forums because everyone is complaining about something. Bad 3g...blame the IPhone for that. My 4G has gone up by 5+Mbps. I did the 4G signal hack that I did on my Epic and it only got better. I guess I need to go chill in the Nexus forums until people get their issues worked out. Its probably a voltage increase when phone is idle that will fix LOS issue
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signal bar issue? are samsung phones just equipped with weak antenas&radios?

This is my 3rd samsung device, coming from htc which seems to have better radios and antenas.
I get one bar constantly i doors at any location and the minute im out doors signal goes to 3 bars ...with one bar i cant even get an app to download or google site to load, even in good coverage areas but when im outdoors its a bit better.Considering the well documented issue wiyh sprints slow data speeds.
Is there a tweak or hack or is this just how samsung phones are?
Ive edited my proxy address and ports with the evo msl hack still no difference??
Is it the weak radio with one constant signal bar, or weak data speeds that cause the lag
This phones crazy sometimes the speeds are decent from area to area most time indoors i cat even get an app to downlod and you have to constantly cleaer ram for anything to halfass function right.
Any mods any tweaks being looked into ?
IMO
Photon has great radio/antenna.
Evo has good radio/antenna.
Epic Touch has average radio/antenna.
Evo Shift and Evo 3D have mediocre radio/antennas.
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IMO
Photon has great radio/antenna.
Evo has good radio/antenna.
Epic Touch has average radio/antenna.
Evo Shift and Evo 3D have mediocre radio/antennas.
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The bars dont really make a difference. You have to check the dB. I have perfect signal from -65 to -71 (4 bars). But sometimes, i have 2 bars and -65 dB, the bars are not always correct. -106 dB is no signal at all.
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Where do i go in the device to check the db?
I realize what your saying, its just odd im in a bad signal area at home to begin with cause of aluminum siding and the area is a dead zone especially for gsm devices, but my htc evo is the only device i could ever get to load pages or function inside my home location, ive had 3 samsung devices they all have weak signal bars where 3g drops completely inside ,but its weird cause the minute i get out into open area the phone loads google like a snap, its just i never lost signal with htc, thats why i wondered if its just the quality of the samsung radio/antenas or something else? this is not the first time ive read blogs about samsung radios being mediocre!
Maybe its something ill have to deal with, thats why i asked origianly if theres a tweak to boost signal, ive tried the msl edit hack on the proxy addresses, that dont boost signal much , it just speeds up the data speeds by a small margin, well at least on the evo it did.
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Where do i go in the device to check the db?
I realize what your saying, its just odd im in a bad signal area at home to begin with cause of aluminum siding and the area is a dead zone especially for gsm devices, but my htc evo is the only device i could ever get to load pages or function inside my home location, ive had 3 samsung devices they all have weak signal bars where 3g drops completely inside ,but its weird cause the minute i get out into open area the phone loads google like a snap, its just i never lost signal with htc, thats why i wondered if its just the quality of the samsung radio/antenas or something else? this is not the first time ive read blogs about samsung radios being mediocre!
Maybe its something ill have to deal with, thats why i asked origianly if theres a tweak to boost signal, ive tried the msl edit hack on the proxy addresses, that dont boost signal much , it just speeds up the data speeds by a small margin, well at least on the evo it did.
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Settings>About phone>Status>Signal Strength

[Q] Is anyone finding the wi-fi range on their Galaxy Nexus.. lacklustre?

It seems like the wifi range on my Nexus just doesn't hold up. Here's (attached) a shot I just took of my Galaxy Nexus and another of my iPhone4 in the exact same spot at the exact-ish same time.
The router is on the other side of the house, and while the iPhone4 and my Macbook (which i'm typing this on right now in the same spot, connected) pretty consistently stay at one or two bars at the very least, the Galaxy Nexus has a noticeable/distinct lack of ability to keep a consistent signal, and struggles to do so.
Every Samsung phone I've ever owned has this issue.
My work iPhone 4 works on the 3rd floor of my house (router in basement) with full bars whereas the Samsungs (GNEX included) barely connect.
Very frustrating as I like to use wifi to save carrier data. Oh well. At least I have unlimited data, so I stream away via 3g.
mine doesnt do as well as my motorolas and nokias but it still holds it own. The bars are not as indicative for me because even when showing no bars i have had a reliable connection.
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Actually I find it just cuts out continuously. I turned off "avoid poor connections" but that didn't make a noticable difference. It connects and reconnects all the time.
You can watch when i download a game it will hang for a few minutes then start the transfer or continue it again.
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Every Samsung phone I've ever owned has this issue.
My work iPhone 4 works on the 3rd floor of my house (router in basement) with full bars whereas the Samsungs (GNEX included) barely connect.
Very frustrating as I like to use wifi to save carrier data. Oh well. At least I have unlimited data, so I stream away via 3g.
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Aggravating. Anyone know if the SGSII is the same way?
Do any of you guys know if the wifi strength is an improvement over the nexus s?
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Do any of you guys know if the wifi strength is an improvement over the nexus s?
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It's a downgrade from GSII as far as I know.
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I am following this thread with great interest.
I have Motorola Razr and for me the WiFi reception is appalling.
It can only just see my home network.
To compare my three year old HTC Hero is showing seven!
I have a plan that allows my to connect to BT Openzone hotspots around the UK (something that is very important to me)
I went into my nearest town yesterday and it could not find a single WiFi signal!
I want to like my Razr, but I am finding it difficult and I was thinking that the Gnex would be the logical way to go but it seems that you guys are experiencing similar problems.
ive tested both phones as well.
the 4s definitely destroys both the wifi / cell reception on the galaxy nexus.
in my house my iphone is usually around -80 to -89 dbm but the galaxy nexus is -95 to -107. Kind of pathetic if you ask me but I like the phone way to much to go back to the iphone.
Definitely still having issues with this, if anyone is curious. At my girlfriend's house tonight, and despite the router being the next room over, the phone still can't keep a solid signal. It is rather pathetic, honestly. For Google/Samsung's sake, I hope this bug can be fixed via software.
my SGSII has terrible wifi performance also. My captivate had bad wifi performance also, so ill be used to it when I get the Nexus lol. Good thing the router is right next to me
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Jup it's pretty horrible the signal drops from 20mbps to 6mpbs if I put the nexus on a table just 6 meters away. S2 same prob although it doesn't seem to be as bad as the nexus.
I'm seeing the same thing on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus.
In the same room iPhone 4 and HTC Thunderbolt gets 3 or 4 bars, the nexus gets 1. Go into the next room, or god-forbid go into the basement and there's no wifi connection on the Galaxy Nexus but 3 or 4 bars still on the other phones.
There is certainly an issue.
I called VZW support and got the usual run around : reboot the phone, "we're sending new settings to your phone" etc. Finally he told me that it's probably a problem with the SIM card and they'd send me a new one. I said "no thanks, I want to talk to someone who knows what they are talking about."
After being transferred through to Samsung support I didn't get much further but the lady there at least knew what she was talking about.
They mentioned an upcoming software update, which I've been reading about, but I'm not sure that this is really the issue, since it's not just that it does't show enough bars, it loses the connection.
Tried a different radio?
At the moment there are many different smallband versions. And they all give a different signal. The smallband xxkk6 seems to be the best.
Try upgrading you smallband with the radio.img that can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374077 This is only for the gsm version.
My HTC Thunderbolt is the same way.
It has at least 25% stronger 4G and Wifi signal at all times.
Seems like Samsung uses weaker antennas to save on power, cost, and/or weight??
It's better than my Captivate was. Can't go by bars anyway.
I returned my Galaxy Nexus for a new one. Probably got a defect one from factory.
Lost connection to my wifi-network when i went around 2-3 meters from my router.
Tried switching channels, 2,4Ghz/5Ghz frequencies and flashing different radios. No go
My GN suffers from the "Avoided, poor network signal"
As many other have said its rather annoying when your trying to conserve your 3G Bandwidth Maybe Samsung will fix this in the coming weeks (Maybe not)
I found out that the WiFI signal icon on the GNex is misleading; on my Optimus 2X it was full and Wifi Analyzer showed -60 dBm. On the GNex it was half yet Wifi Analyzer showed -50 dBm, sometimes -60. The link speed is 65Mbps on GNex, 72Mbps on O2X. Both show Excellent signal strength in network details.

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